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  1. ips sent to hax..someones gettin in trouble... :werd:
  2. ive had to change all my passwords for the site :werd: it really is pathetic that someone would take the time to do this :sad6:
  3. hey top dawg get the new de la soul album "the grind date"!
  4. Prince always sticks up for him.. :nhawong: yes that is very strange.. in fact prince is denying daedulus has anything to do with what happened :nhawong:
  5. Hi, Thought you might be interested to know that Jazzy Jeff was interviewed for the Xfm Bounty Hunter Competition this week The Bounty Hunter features people getting celebrities to call into the Xfm Breakfast Show. After two weeks all the calls are played out and the public vote for which call they like the most. The punter who gets the most popular call gets £10,000 while the winning celebrity gets £1,000 to give to the charity of their choice. Anyway, you can hear the interview at... http://www.xfm.co.uk/Article.asp?id=42401 everyone vote for jeff!
  6. well he registered 9 new accounts and filled the forum with rubbish..prince was actually encouraging daedulus.. and said kevtastic was provoking him.. man prince has completely lost the plot.. why would someone do this? no idea but its a pretty stupid thing to do :ali:
  7. ive also banned prince.. for his extremely close ties with daedulus mortality..in fact i cant even rule him out of involvement in all this mess
  8. yes last night daedulus returned hacked into the forum and deleted all members and all posts.. everyone here should thank hax for recovering everything
  9. what kind of beat do you wants silvertiger
  10. he is a korean producer..whos had a lot of hits in his home country..he moved out to LA in 2003.. and produced a couple of tracks for Wills new album in december 2003
  11. well you are prob gonna have to wait a month for this.. :lookhehe:
  12. first google searches..next.. world domination!!! :drive:
  13. have you heard the full story? this guy is young, and suddenly a millionaire.. and he had a lot of people handling his business and swindling him.. i have more respect that will and jeff both went through this..but have come back even stronger...
  14. yes that always happens to me!! like i dreamed this moment a year ago! :scared2:
  15. what? im not keeping any secrets :lolsign: i doubt will knows when it will be released just as much as anyone else.. remember he said it was being released in 6 weeks back in july 16.. so obviously theres been a lot going on to get this out to the people..
  16. its a long ass article..but definitely worth the time to read!
  17. fan4evah what kind of beat do you want? ill do one for you..
  18. At a Crossroads In 30 years, hip-hop has gone from simple roots in the Bronx and grown into a multibillion-dollar industry. Where will it go next? BY GLENN GAMBOA STAFF WRITER October 14, 2004 For Matthew Dave, hip-hop is like an old friend - the fun one, the one you really liked, the one who inspired you. It's also the friend who never grew up, the one with esteem issues, the one who's a bit too flashy, who swears too much, and is still too obsessed with sex. For Dave, hip-hop is the friend you know you've outgrown. The 36-year-old Dave grew up in New Orleans under the sway of the hip-hop culture born 30 years ago in the Bronx and brought to the mainstream 25 years ago with the Sugar Hill Gang's "Rapper's Delight." "The first party I ever went to was a 'Rapper's Delight' party," said Dave, who now lives in Hicksville. "Every time they played it, everyone danced. When they tried to play something else, everyone sat down." He battled with classmates over whether hip-hop would turn out to be a passing fad. He battled with his mother over the explicit lyrics on Ice-T's gritty "Rhyme Pays" CD. ("I told her, 'If all you hear is the swearing, then you're not really listening,'" Dave recalled.) He battled with friends about the power of the music. "I remember one night I was working in this small restaurant in New Orleans when this guy with big gold teeth, wearing a big clock around his neck, came in," Dave said. "This girl I worked with came running back and she's like, 'Did you see Flavor Flav?' I'm like, 'Flavor who?' And she hands me this CD that he gave her and says, 'Here, you take this home and listen to it.' That CD was Public Enemy's 'It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back,' and I never was the same again. There was no one else on wax who was saying what I felt until then." 'The Golden Age' But that was 15 years ago, in the middle of what many call "The Golden Age of Hip-Hop," when the music was at its most unpredictable, when Hollis' Run-D.M.C. and LL Cool J were superstars and Long Island groups such as Public Enemy and De La Soul were stretching the genre's borders, while Ice Cube and Ice-T were building scenes on the West Coast. Since then, Dave has left hip-hop in disgust several times. "Hip-hop has gotten kind of stagnant," he said. "The movement has gone another way. It's frustrating to see the G-Units, the Cash Money, the No Limit all day, every day. That's not about hip-hop. That's not music that has social meaning. That's all about shaking ya ---." He is not alone in his protest. Two of hip-hop's biggest stars - Jay-Z and DMX - have announced their retirement from the genre, in part because they have tired of rappers competing over who seems most "street" or extravagant. Rappers such as Will Smith, Sean "P. Diddy" Combs and Ja Rule find that acting may be a more lucrative and less taxing way to work than the music that launched their careers. Hip-hop is at a crossroads. Does it continue down the currently popular road - pushing tales of gangsta street life and fantasies of escaping into a world of bling-bling and babes? Or does it try to harness the power of the hip-hop generation to deal with the problems of urban culture? Of course, the decision is not that simple. Hip-hop's current incarnation generates $2.8 billion in CD sales annually, according to the Recording Industry Association of America, for a music industry that still is struggling with falling profits, making the major labels hesitant to fix something they feel isn't broken. In the past decade, hip-hop's share of the music market has nearly doubled, to 13.3 percent, and it has gone from the fifth- most-popular type of music to second, behind rock. But does the industry really only want rappers who talk about crimes, partying and sex? Stereotypes = profit? Raymond Scott, best known as rapper Benzino and co- owner of hip-hop magazine The Source, says yes. He believes that many in the music industry seek out only rappers who fit these stereotypes, adding that many market and promote hip-hop featuring only violence, sexism or extravagance because that is how they want to portray African-Americans. "Hip-hop, at one time, was a conscience for African-Americans, but they pretty much wiped that type of music out," Scott said. "I think the real revolutionaries aren't being heard these days. Right now, we're in a dangerous time because there's a double standard being applied." Many believe hip-hop has brought the races closer together. Mogul Russell Simmons said, "Hip-hop has done more for race relations than any other force in America in the last 50 years." Walk into any mall and there will be hordes of white suburban teens dressed like 50 Cent or any number of black rappers, and struggling to sound more "street." Though recent studies show that America's largest cities are largely segregated, more than any other multicultural country except South Africa under apartheid, clearly, the races know more about each other's lives than ever before - even if there are only a few ways they interact. Hip-hop, like sports, is one of those few ways. However, many in the industry believe hip-hop's financial success may be pushing the mostly white music industry decision-makers and mostly black artists in different directions. Davey D., California-based hip-hop radio DJ and author, said that when hip-hop was developing, the music brought the races together because everyone was equal. "Hip-hop was a unifying force and a beautiful thing," Davey D. said. "At the beginning of the scene, I felt it was very genuine in terms of cross- pollination; the white new wave kids downtown were taking from the black and Latino hip-hop kids uptown and in the Bronx and vice versa. There was an appreciation of what was going on in the music without the racial baggage. The seeds were being planted for it to be a worldwide phenomenon. As the people participated, it was more like sports. What was respected was skill level and not your race." Profits vs. race issues When hip-hop began to be seen as a successful, money- making art form rather than a novelty, things began to change, Davey D. said. "Age-old racial dynamics came into play - resentment, misperceptions and out-and-out racism," he said. "Though 90 percent of the people making the music was black, the major players and the shot-callers were white. That's when we started to go back to stereotypes. People outside the community would tell artists they weren't 'street' enough. They would vicariously try to live out age-old ghetto stereotypes. Is it really how the black people live? Or do you subconsciously try to keep those conditions going? The biggest challenges hip-hop will face now will be around this issue of race." Eminem's rise to dominance in hip-hop shows how thorny the issue can be. The white rapper from Detroit has become the genre's biggest star, with a mix of talent and controversy. Eminem had skills, so his race didn't matter to most fans. He was not only accepted but also nurtured by hip-hop's black power structure, especially his mentor, producer-rapper Dr. Dre. The problem is that his race did matter a great deal to the music industry power structure - video channels, radio stations and record companies got behind Eminem in a way that no black rapper has ever seen. "When [Eminem] came out, there was across-the-board respect for him - he's got skills, he's got a great flow on the mike, though I see it more as a Larry Bird situation than an Elvis situation," Davey D. said. "Now, before he even had an album coming out, he was on the cover of Spin magazine. A Tribe Called Quest, one of the greatest groups of all time, were retiring around the same time, and they were putting out their final album and they didn't get the cover. Radio stations that had said, 'I'll never play rap music,' suddenly played Eminem and, later, Limp Bizkit. They play Eminem, but they won't play Wu-Tang Clan. Why? Because radio is about demographics and ratings and the key aspect of that is race." Even Eminem acknowledges race played a factor in his success, rapping in "White America," "Look at my sales - let's do the math - if I was black, I would've sold half." Hip-hoppers don't begrudge Eminem his sales. They complain that black hip-hop artists never had the same opportunities he did. "The decision to play Eminem and not a black hip-hop act had nothing to do with the music," said Davey D. "It was strictly from a business standpoint. If you play him, you will gain an audience of a certain percentage of white guys, which they want to sell the station to advertisers. So much of hip-hop is intertwined with this racial baggage." Reviving the spirit The Source's Scott said hip-hop fans need to revive the spirit of racial unity from the culture's early days. "To me, the greatest thing to come out of hip-hop is that it started to really unite black and white people," he said. "We know there's a lot of people that don't want that happening, a lot of people pushing the buttons in our society." Scott is referring to what a growing number in hip-hop believe are moves coordinated in a plan similar to the FBI Cointelpro programs of the '60s, when the agency used a mix of tactics to discredit civil rights groups. Who's to blame? However, most believe there is plenty of blame to go around before pulling in a government shadow organization: to the music industry for what it promotes, to the artists for what they create and to the fans for accepting what is offered to them. Public Enemy rapper and radio talk show host Chuck D. said many African-Americans need to stop idolizing rappers who "keep it real" by rhyming about violence, women and high-priced products. "Real people do real things," he said. "They can try to be a guy who's a music person - Puffy or Russell or Chuck - but a lot of it is bread and circuses. Real people need to pay their mortgage. Real people need to get health care for their child. Real people need to learn how to fend for themselves in society. Real people have responsibilities. Maybe we should try to make this message more hip, more palatable. But that doesn't make it any easier." Chuck D. says the reason so many of today's up-and-coming rappers adopt a thuggish persona is a simple matter of business. For example, with the multiplatinum success of 50 Cent - whose oft-told background of being a pre-teen drug dealer and surviving being shot nine times can overshadow his music - record companies are looking for rappers who can duplicate his style and his lyrical content - whether they are telling tales of their own lives or not. "In the beginning, rappers didn't want to be like nobody else," said Chuck D. "They wanted to be original. But now, with the whole money aspect and this idea of 'I got to get paid,' people want to see how similar they can be to someone else. That's not to say that these guys are wack, it's just that the similarity is so important. Now, hip-hop is like one big casting couch, where these new cats are just trying to get the role." The fantasies that many of today's rappers construct are essentially the same. They have survived the tough life of the streets by being tough and living outside the law. That success has brought them loads of cash so they can buy lots of flashy jewelry and fancy new cars. It also means the most beautiful women are now throwing themselves at them. It's a nice fantasy if you're the guy, though, unless you're actually the guy, it gets old pretty quick. "I started listening to hip- hop when I was 6 years old," said Farai Chideya, San Francisco author and radio talk show host. "I have an understanding of what happens. I liked the storytelling of hip- hop, but I started to have a huge problem with this. "I went on a three-year strike," she continued. "I decided, 'I'm not listening to this ---. This has no respect for me.' But I came back, both because I like it and because I know that if I don't listen to it, I'm going to miss something." Matthew Dave went away from hip-hop and came back as well. "Tupac brought me back," he said. "I remember when 'Pac was mean, but he eventually showed what positivity could do. For me, it's all about the lyrics. Words make it happen. Words can make you cry. Words can make you shake your ---. Words can make you strap a bomb around your chest and blow people up. If a rapper doesn't bring great words to me, I'm not interested." Rapping about values These days, Dave said he sees more rappers that interest him, but not enough to hold his attention full-time. "We need finger-pointers now," he said. "We need to stop listening to those who glorify sexual selfishness or who want to rap about getting 20-inch rims. If you get 20-inch rims for your ride, that's cool. Use it in a song once? Fine. After that, there is no need to refer to 20-inch rims anymore. We need people to rap about values, man. We need some kind of righteousness." And after years dominated by gangsta rappers such as 50 Cent, this year, a certain amount of righteousness is beginning to work its way back into hip-hop. Kanye West has made a splash with "Jesus Walks," a religious rap where he says, "Radio needs this/ They say you can rap about anything except for Jesus - that means guns, sex, lies, videotapes/But if I talk about God, my record won't get played, huh?" Mase, who left multiplatinum success five years ago to become a preacher, says, "I'm just a bad boy gone clean" in his comeback hit single "Welcome Back." Mos Def, one of the most promising from the "conscious hip-hop" camp of rappers who rhyme about substantive issues in their songs, is gaining attention for his "New Danger" CD released Tuesday. Whether these developments are the start of a new road in hip-hop or simply a detour of the gangsta train remains to be seen. "When cats know they want to speak out and be heard, they can do it," said Chuck D. "Too many are trying to figure out what to say to get more money or to get more attention. Race relations would more easily be explained if rappers were just speaking what they have to speak. Hip-hop is making a change. It has to. It has to even it out." As the Internet continues to erode the stranglehold the major labels have on distribution of hip-hop, more and more rappers will get the opportunity to speak their minds, Chuck D. said. "Rappers are starting to learn that they need to make the record companies work for them, that they can do things on their own and force people to give them as much access as they want, as long as they have something important to say and enough people want to hear it," said Chuck D., who started one of the first Internet-based record companies, Slamjamz.com, to offer more rappers a chance to be heard. "My thing now is trying to help people get organized." Jay-Z, on the other hand, urges rappers to strive for greatness. "What I think has given us longevity in this game is that we give ourselves, you know? We're not always the perfect person; sometimes we're vulnerable, sometimes we make mistakes. And we sing about those mistakes," he said recently. "A lot of artists are scared to go there. You have to go all the way there. Hip-hop is so big now that people think about commercial success before they think about making music. I tell the young guys around my studio this all the time: 'You're just makin' a song, you're not makin' music.' Make music. Go in there and lose yourself." http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/news/...nment-headlines
  19. this topics length is alarming spreading lyrics representing positive spirit posting to the world so everyone can hear it heading towards 10 pages...
  20. if you posted more you'd see it :roll: :roll:
  21. and apparently he was "liberating the iraqi people" :nhawong:
  22. overbrook is probably waiting for interscope to give them a release date..and get the distribution organised..
  23. i dont remember the address just google it thats how i found it
  24. there was never any weapons of mass destruction..and saddam hussein had no capability of producing them.. :ridepony:
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