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Devilsjim89/JJFP2K VS JazzyJulie/DaBrakes ............................. devilsjim89 kickin' off round three made it to the ultimate dream livin' it up by the best rap team now it don't take an asian to figure out this equation of T and a J then double the im the sum is who else but tim and jim we battlin' jazzy julie and da brakes crunchy and munchy like some milk and cornflakes our freestyle train keeps riding whenever we be on the board battlin' everyone is away and hiding were so hot like a semiconductor you rap so bad, go see a rap instructor its you that were dissin' after we win the round and the contest its our asses you'll be kissin' its a proven fact that we can go the ultimate length this duo is like schwarzenegger but doubled the strengh thats two times the power like dinosaurs its weak mcs we devour from austrailia to the united states you got two rap greats spittin' to enhance the fire gotta win this contest, its a desire hearin us rippin on you its like a spear to the ear eyes full of tears rocked and shaken by the fears jazzyjulie Here I go again, ready for the last round/ And im doin’ so well with this new talent that ive found/ The disses people said are becoming pathetic/ But when your finished with me im gonna make you regret it/ Some guy got so desperate that he called me a whore/ That was the easy route, coz I’ve heard it all before/ I have respect for myself, unlike most other women/ I’m not into all this, sleepin’ round and sinnin’/ Its true what Will said u cant write without profanity/ The things come out your mouth, are on the brink of insanity/ So just “shut up” and make like the black eyed peas/ Coz when im finished with u, u will be beggin’ on your knees/ So damn desperate you’ll look 2 the lord above/ And I aint gonna stop till u scream “where’s the love?”/ Its me and Da Brakes we will remain undefeated/ I know your all upset, but calm down, remain seated/ More exciting than the superbowl, even the part with Janet/ I’m hoping the aliens rap coz im bored of this planet/ I feel quite bad coz the rest of you are ok/ Especially for Tim coz im beatin him on his birthday/ Im an animal nurse by day, but a battler at night/ Its like Jekell and hyde , when u livin my life/ Coz im talented at everything I try to do/ U can all me the queen but my friends call me Ju/ Prince had better watch out coz im gonna steal his crown/ I’m the ruler of them all, your just my jester and my clown/ You just make me laugh with your attempt at the rhyme/ I will make sure you get locked up coz its surely a crime/ So when im finished with you, u will realise/ Never get in my way when im after the prize/ What I use is pure determination and drive/ And there is no beatin that, so cya later guys/ JJFP2K Wow julie that was a pretty good spit But like u say in the u k u just aint fit To compete in this ur rigid Frigid and timid Like a mouse You say your jazzy then I’m throwin you outta this house So pump ya brakes and peep kid We’re defeating da brakes..like prince did Leave you embrassed we hurt y’all People laughin at you like db in that silly commercial Brakes stick to actin Cause in rappin your lackin You would need more than one take to break this alliance Our rhymes more complex than manuals to a kitcken appliance Submit give in and give us your full compliance Cause you know we’re bound to win boy its str8 science Mathematically and tactically we are by far superior Your lines go over peoples heads they aint even hearin ya We clearly blazing it up in this joint And keeping it simple so we can make our point Our flows combine and we complement each other We got a battling connexion its as if jim is my brother Type rhyme rulers in a search engine tim & Jim gets 100% relevance Results one through 100 cause we come creatively with 100% intelligence Our raps completely cover you from pinky toe to ear lobe These raps completely smother you and we’re from 2 sides of the globe Worldwide and undenied this rap battle is ours Im sorry but you guys raps are dead ill be sending you flowers This killer collab team just devours Any nosy fools like kidman in the hours So start stepping backwards as ya whole team reverses We’ll be punishin you to the fullest…we still got 2 verses! Da Brakes Tim Price, think twice b4 calling me out// A word called talent is what your sure to be without// Best believe I’ll beat you, like my name was Joe Jackson// What you bro’s lacking is skill at pro rapping// A real lyricist? Ha! You might be someday// Your 2 scoops short of an ice-cream sundae// Da Brakes and Julie most likely to win it// What the hell? Is Adir ghostwriting your lyrics?// If you ever dropped an album, I’d add it to my collection// I’d put that rubbish in my ‘Have a laugh’ rap section// Egocentric, yeah just call me braggadocios// Got a crowd following much larger than Moses// You know this, but loathe me// This battle thing, I own see// The only way I’d lose is if you straight up cloned me// You boys are lacking something, but believe I’m ‘phat’ like glutton// My advise right now is hit the disconnect button// If there’s a problem, trust, I’m the one to come and sort it// Punch the ground so hard I knock the earth out of orbit// The ultimate title, we’re gonna have to deny you// Don’t even class you as threat, let alone my flipping rival// What d’ya know bout science, or mathematical equations?// Its defiant if you step, you’ll get grammatical abrasions// Coz when I start to spit and come out with the sickness// I’m murdering you bad, coz u ain’t lyrically fit kid// Trying to diss my acting skills, but your attempt is kinda weak// Administrate this, you flipping internet geek// Whilst I’m chilling with the stars and spitting lyrics with the best// You’ll be moderating boards, logging down IP addresses// I hate to do this, lyrically holding you for ransom// Julie and Da Brakes, Freestyle Battle CHAMPIONS// DevilsJim89 indeed its a hard battle to judge specially when these wack rappers are spittin out fudge no real meaning, just a bunch a chocolate chunks all I see is a pile of words, by these 5th grade flunks you got past the crowd so far, but now its time for the spankings add another win for the two of us, we go up, up, up in the rankings you can label us as your biggest threat because battling us is your biggest regret the battle of the best, the test of survival we were causing you nightmares ever since our arrival delievering the best rhymes ever in the final our raps are so good, it'll be available on vinyl its a joke to call da brakes the king and julie the queen ill attack 'em and smack 'em like freddy kruger on halloween land an uppercut to your nose, make it bent can barely talk, can barely rap, just like 50 cent having us down beggin on our knees? i dont think so, as your the lame emcees we have the determination to get to the great destination it takes the combination of dedication and motivation to go the ultimate distance not no resistance but true potna assistance da brakes comin' out here with the sickness? you must be talkin bout alzheimer’s, because you got no mental quickness stuck once again in my battle thickness can't touch nor beat the T and J slickness the judges know how to make the right decisions to crown me and tim the champions of all rap divisions anytime you wanna bring the battle, you know who to call you'll never win though, and thats right yes yes y'all so yo tim back me up yo tim rack this win up JazzyJulie Hey I may be late, but its worth the wait/ Me doing this here be straight up fate/ So stop complaining , I be working so hard/ While your sat at your computer actin’ like a retard/ And now you going round sayin that im weak/ But your raps smell so I can say that they reak/ Just coz I don’t rap about peodo’s, violence and drugs/ Goin round frontin like all those fake thugs/ Coz the rhymes that I do be soundin all intelligent/ And anything u say will just turn out malevolent/ Like Ali ima make you eat your words/ And then do 2 you, what Saddam did 2 the Kurds/ I hit you so hard it explodes like a bomb/ It’s a shame you cant hear me to see where im from/ Coz in Liverpool music runs in my blood/ From the home of the Beatles, it ain’t like the hood/ Im not a typical Brit sippin tea like I should/ And make you realise how bad you are if I could/ Your not even worth it, wastin my insults on you/ I hate to be childish but im the rubber, you the glue/ On this rap ride, we goin so fast you’d better use da brakes/ And winning this battle im gonna do what it takes/ What am I talkin about, surely we’ve already won/ No need 2 vote judges, the deciding is already done/ We’re headin to the top, its already makin me dizzy/ I did this in 2 seconds flat coz I be too damn busy/ Update the leader board quick coz i wanna be at the top/ So the rest of you rappers may aswell just stop/ JJFP2K The people demanded high class raps and it Turned into a 2 horse race but yo Julie let me be candid If you had 50 hours to write ya rap it still wouldn’t be up to standard Look you cant change fate we got the mandate And damn mate got so many flows write till the hand ache And I cant stand fake emcees so I banned hate With decorum no more nonsense in this forum With some slick shunning It was clear you were no longer in the running Your raps judges will need to censure Just pretenders with hidden agendas borderin on dementia And I wont let ya take over this with ya wackness And the tackiest of tactics distracts us From this battle addendum But I’m demonstratin we got the momentum And we running with it str8 to the finish Line this rap with hooks and traps sure to diminish Like hooks on tracks fading while making Ya dumb ass parading look degrading simply stating The obvious from the glorious gunning down and drowning out the sound of ya lame ass Your just a 2nd class citizen bitter and we riddin ya from this arena fast U put down adir..come on now he’d surely defeat you Cause I’d be forcing you to battle him in hebrew And da brakes u keep mentionin my admin status fool you’re just jealous Rapping blasphemus clearly mad at us Cause we got the skills and we get the respect But your actin so bad u don’t even see a cheque You with stars? ……………..Nope! You haven’t got a hope Of kickin it with the best outta ya depth and couldn’t cope While im chillin with jeff and he’s tellen me I’M dope!!!!! Da Brakes Final verse, I’m spitting worse, than cobras on alert// Your getting served, I’m so superb, have you all up in your church// Don’t get it confused, believe it happens very often// You won’t be there praying, you’ll be lying in a coffin// Ashes to ashes, dust-to-dust, enoughs enough// I’m the best breed like a mutt at Crufts// Give me a language, French, Hebrew, Dutch or Spanish// And I’m guaranteed to rip it, you peeps can’t understand this// Bilingual lyricist, worldwide they’re fearing this// Beat you so bad, you can’t look in the mirror kid// Jealousy (ha!) That’s something I don’t do// You might moderate me, but I still own you// Lyrical facts? Or have I just said it to boast?// Tim’s reading this thinking “I gotta edit his post”// But even if you did and made it one hell of a bore// People still probably say my verse is better than yours// Jeff’s been lying to you, so gullible, its sad to see// Coz u couldn’t be dope if you smoked a bag of weed// Don’t get mad at me, coz I’m spitting this so lavishly// I’ll outcast you so bad; you’ll get disowned by you family// Tim and Jim, the perfect couple, give each other a cuddle// Repeat after me Tim, “Jim, I think I love you”// Let me know when you and your sidekick finish your so called “dissing”// Don’t need to be physic to know you ain’t gonna win it// Julie was right; this music thing runs in the blood// But you must anemic coz u got none of the above// Run for cover and grab your lover, no brother out here’s tougher// I’ll be the first to rip you, and then Julie will make you suffer// And don’t worry I’ll be updating the leader board soon// I’ll be sure to move you DOWN whilst we rise UP like the moon// That’s it, I’m done spitting, that’s all I have to say// I’ve beat you once before and I’ll do the same 2day//

tim robbins :rock: :rock:

Julie was dying to hear switch..so she devised an ingenious plan to obtain a copy. it involved...

Sat 18th Sep Venue: Loft Chibuku presents: Chibuku, DJ Jazzy Jeff

18th of september.. hope the scousers make it! :poke:

i got a friend in america to get hes the dj for me years ago!

i think thats because you guys arent moderators..only moderators and admin can give warnings..so thats why u dont see them

willennium! that album was definitely for us ol skoolers!!! :switch:

:tear: :tear: :tear: those original battles we had were hilarious man..you got me good :bowrofl: great you made it back! you were definitely missed

i had this dream last night..it was pretty funny..they were asking will at the vmas on the red carpet when his single would be out..and he said we are getting a distributer and it will be out within 7-14 days but heres the weird part..he said hed signed to this label..cant remember the name..but it was uncle krackers? label you know that guy wirh kid rock..where did i pull that from? :hilarious:

[quote=Jazzy Julie,Aug 27 2004, 12:25 PM]yeah but when the new ppl come with switch we can say, we stayed with Will the whole time, wewaited so patiently for this album.[/quote] tru dat! where the real fans who've been there through thick and thin...preach on reverend julie!

the guy who wrote this article is an idiot :dink:

Donald Clarke One of the biggest stars in Hollywood also happens to be a thoroughly nice bloke, even if he does make $28 million a movie. Will Smith talks to Donald Clarke about race, rap and his determination to keep making punter-pleasing blockbusters Once, on one of her rare visits to Planet Earth, the pathologically cantankerous journalist Julie Burchill said that the only people who claim to dislike Will Smith are those same contrarians (this from Julie!) who unconvincingly boast about not caring for chocolate or sunshine. And, for once, she was right. Will Smith may not be as good an actor as Robert DeNiro, he may not be as fly a rapper as Chuck D (or, let's be honest, Chuck Norris), but the sheer volume of positive energy Smith radiates seems sufficient to overpower even the most jaded sensibilities. Before our interview, I pop into a press conference where Smith and Alex Proyas, director of the perfectly respectable new science fiction flick, I, Robot, are entertaining a herd of my colleagues. The hacks, many of whom make a living out of having seen it all before, are clearly enchanted. Like Jim Carrey, Smith takes the "Love Me! Love Me!" approach to such events, but, unlike Carrey, he is genuinely funny. When a journalist's tape recorder gives out he picks it up and shows it to the crowd. "Who's is this? Nobody? Man, you're just embarrassed to claim it because it's so old looking." So what's the problem with Will? Why would Julie's friends pretend not to warm to him? Well, it's an odd thing, but for somebody with all the superficial requirements for a hip image - wit, poise, negritude - he remains quite startlingly uncool. The difficulties began when, alongside one Jazzy Jeff, Smith emerged in the late 1980s as clean-cut rapper The Fresh Prince. Just as hip-hop was getting nicely irresponsible, The Prince, a sort of Cliff Richard of the genre, was delivering such fiercely terrifying tracks as Parents Just Don't Understand and Girl's Ain't Nothing But Trouble. Tougher rappers were unforgiving in their contempt. "I specifically made a choice to be different," Smith tells me. "I didn't want to fit in. I also wanted to keep that happy look in my grandmother's eye. Yeah, sure, I could have written filthy stories, but I didn't want to just fit in. You know, my Mom would have to go to work and I didn't want to be embarrassed if I was out there with this song: 'See that girl with her big fat ass' and so on. But you know everybody was doing that, and when everybody is doing something I always want to do the opposite." So Smith rebelled by being unrebellious? Still, it must gall him a little that he became the butt of so many of the gangstas' jokes. "There is a problem in the black community now with equating stupid with cool and smart with corny. And for me there is a certain aggressiveness to my intelligence that I like to keep intact. All those big hardcore guys think you're tough because you're not smart. Well, let's fight if you're so tough. Let's see who's the toughest. Let's see if your stupidity is tougher than my intelligence. " Smith, whose father was in the refrigeration business, attaches great importance to family. He grew up in middle-class Philadelphia where, at the age of 12, he made friends with the then still unjazzy Jeff Townes. Will did well in school and was urged by his mother to take up an offer from MIT to study engineering, but he never seriously entertained the idea. Considering the mighty, ahem, willpower that I can sense in the room, I assume he was always filled with the desire for fame. "You know, in a weird way I never tried to be famous or rich," he says. "I just tried to be the best. The origins of my drive date back to Resurrection Baptist Church in Philly. My grandmother was always in charge of all of the children's performances and there was a look in her eyes that she had when I succeeded that I've been searching for through my whole career." Slightly creepily, he then goes on to explain that his wife, Jada Pinkett-Smith, co-star of the last two Matrix films, has, in this regard, taken the place of his grandmother."You know my whole career has been based on the women in my life, first my grandmother and then my mother and now it's Jada. You can trace the quality of my career based on the quality of woman I was with at that individual point in time. It is all about pleasing them." I resist the temptation to inquire just what sort of monster he was shacked up with when he made Wild Wild West and ask instead if he is seriously suggesting that he would rather that Jada like a movie than it take $80 million on its opening weekend. "Oh yeah. I can't survive without that look in my wife's eye. That is really what drives me." Now, ordinarily this is the sort of comment that would cause me to vomit into one of the Dorchester's fruit baskets. But there is just something so ingenuously bouncy about Smith that you can't help but bounce along with him. Then again, the longer you spend with him the more apparent his assiduous professionalism becomes. He knows you have a limited time with him and that you can only ask so many questions. With that in mind, he provides moderately colourful answers at a moderate length. You couldn't call him uninteresting, but equally you know you could sit there until the next ice age and not get him to say anything properly scandalous. This is a man who has always been in tight control of his career. He used his profile as The Fresh Prince to launch the successful (but awful) sit-com, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, in which he played someone called "Will Smith" who, like Will Smith, suddenly found himself having to cope with life among the super-rich. Three years later, in 1993, he made an astonishing big-screen starring début in Six Degrees of Separation. There was plenty of brain fodder in Fred Schepisi's film for students of race in American cinema. Smith plays a drifter who worms his way into a wealthy New York family's home by claiming to be the son of Sidney Poitier, another actor who has been accused of being, for reasons too complicated to go into here, the precise type of African-American that white middle America can just about cope with. Smith has always refused to play the race card. He insists that the issue is now incidental to the politics of Hollywood. "The thing is that Hollywood does not care about black or white. It cares about green: the dollar. The racist element in Hollywood is not based upon anyone's dislike of a specific race of people; it is based on the racist logical constructs that have been put in place." By which I take him to mean that any discrimination occurs simply because there is still a perception that black stars don't draw in the punters. Which is not quite racism I suppose, though the result is the same. "Well, yes. Part of the reason I had to struggle to get Independence Day was this concept they had that black people don't translate internationally. That is the racist construct that has to be broken. But, you know, that attitude is not hidden. There is a clarity of the position and an immobility in your enemy that makes it easier to fight him. Forty years ago there were people who were specifically trying to make sure that black people didn't get jobs. That's less true now." So, if Will Smith sells tickets, they don't care if he is pink, blue or mauve? "Oh yeah. Look, in Hollywood they would sell their grandmothers for a good opening weekend." Well, OK. But the industry still has some peculiar hang-ups about race. In I, Robot, Smith stars as a detective in 2035 Chicago who suspects a robot of having committed a murder. It is interesting that he never gets to kiss his (white) leading lady (Bridget Moynahan). I had read that Smith felt this was evidence of the problem Hollywood has with "the white girl and the black guy". He seems to have decided to backtrack slightly. "That wasn't actually the case with this movie," he clarifies. "We just thought any romance was wrong for the science-fiction thing. But yeah, that is still there. And it ismore of an issue with a white girl and a black guy than the other way round. I don't know why, but that is an issue with both communities in America. It doesn't seem to matter anywhere else. Eventually something will blow it away and it'll be gone forever. "You watched The Pelican Brief and there was this real tension. Will Denzel get to kiss Julia Roberts? Do they dare?" At any rate, Smith managed to kick the door in and followed up Six Degrees of Separation with a string of noisy, profitable blockbusters, including Independence Day, Bad Boys and Men in Black. It was in these films that he perfected the classic Will Smith character, a very slightly darker version of which features in I, Robot - sassy, witty, irreverent, but rarely profane: the sort of man his late granny could still love. It's a compelling act, but since Six Degrees he has really only broken out of it twice - impressively for Michael Mann in the beautifully made, but redundant, Ali, less successfully in Robert Redford's boring The Legend of Bagger Vance. Does he stick with the same style of picture simply because the money is so good? After all, he purportedly earned $28 million for I, Robot. "Never at any point in my career have I ever done anything for money," he says. "Part of the reason that I earn the money that I do is that I look like I care about the material. You know, it's funny to me that they pay me so much for doing something I love. But, hey, if they're making all this money from the movie, I'm going to get as much as I can back from them." So why has he focussed so hard on the action picture? "I have always wanted to make the films that most people will see," he says. "And the top 10 biggest films of all time are action films, and nine out of the top 10 are movies with creatures. So, for me, I said: I want to do action movies with creatures." Aha! This may be another reason why Will is not quite cool. He just wants to be liked so, so much. To paraphrase Johnny Vegas (stay with me here), he's not an actor, he's an entertainer. Then again, along with Ms Burchill, I am quite happy to oblige by liking him nearly as much as he wants me to. Will may be too nice for words - he even calls me "sir" throughout the interview - but, on balance, nice is better than nasty, isn't it? And for those of us who are susceptible to his charms, the reasonably exciting, occasionally moving I, Robot will do well enough for now. After two awful sequels - Bad Boys II and Men in Black II - it looks as if Smith is back in a position of power. So what next? He may still look like a gorgeous, cheeky teenager, but he is 35 and can't do action roles forever. "What I am really looking for is the Number One Answer Movie," he says cryptically. "Look at Gladiator. You have Russell giving this great performance, but you have all these great effects and it is a number one movie. Or Tom Hanks in Forrest Gump. "I'd like to do something that good that also gives the audience whatever candy they need." Don't bet against him finding it. 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If you open your Hip hop History books up to the chapter on what was fresh in the late 80s-early 90s, you would find a picture of Kid 'N' Play doing the kick step and Salt-N-Pepa and Heavy D lamping in the background at the Apollo. This was the era where hip hop really started exploding onto the mainstream and artists started crossing over to the dismay of many hip hop purists. Kid 'N' Play did their part to make hip hop more accessible with joints like "Ain't Gonna Hurt Nobody" and "Rollin' With Kid 'N' Play," coordinated dance moves and the successful House Party movie series. They were the first hip hop cats to even have their own cartoon! As you can tell by now Play was the one without the high top fade. He was the smooth brother from Queens, NY who always left with the ladies and continuously got Kid in trouble. After many years in the limelight Play a.k.a. Christopher Martin has chosen a different path, devoting his life to god and taking a behind the scenes approach to music. He took his vast industry experience and founded HP4Digital Works, a multimedia company that provides pre and post production for film, digital and live theater productions. Check below for an interview with one of the cats who really put fun into hip hop back in the day and find out what drives him now and what projects he has in the works. How would you compare the music back then - when you were creating it - to today? Well, I definitely think track wise the quality of the music is better because that's what is supposed to happen as you move on, innovate and get better. A lot of cats that are choosing to bow out are not giving passion or commitment that they once did because they feel as though the motives and inspirations for today's music isn't what it used to be in regards to the love culture and the gift itself. It's all money driven and I believe they have a point there. So as far as the music itself: it's definitely better. But as far as the total package: it seems to be diluted. To me you guys were like the last bastion of hip hop where you could actually dance to it. Now everybody seems to just want to stand around and nod they head. What happened to dancing? I believe music along with everything else in this world goes through its phases. When people seemed to be enamored with the whole gangsta thing I don't think it was because the whole world wanted to be gangsters. I think it was because it was refreshing to the ear and it was something different and that's how music and everything runs its course. When things are redundant, repetitious or boring you're thirsty for something new, no matter what sacrifice is as far as morals. With this case right here I think if you live long enough it will come around again, but sometimes things fizzle out because everybody can't do it. The main reason rap became as big as it has, is because everybody is not a good singer. Same with dancers: the ones that wanted to do the gangster thing probably weren't good dancers. So they're like: 'lets take what we know how to do and make that the thing.' Sometimes it's as simple as that. When you first started out what got you interested in hip hop? What got me involved in it - as an actual artist - was girls. I wanted to get into their pants. It was my understanding that girls liked guys who did big things, so I was part of doing big things. That ended up turning into something a lot more meaningful because like I said: not a lot of people can sing so they can relate to people who can rap and you come closer to be able to do that. The thing I really appreciated about it is how it really touched my generation and what was going on inside of me. Not everybody did it but there were some of others more deserving of the title icon that I felt spoke. It was just so amazing how they were able to transform what was inside themselves and inside of all of us and be able to put it on paper, wax, cassette or CD. How did you get down with your first group? I forgot the first group but the one that was most memorable was Quicksilver and the Super Lovers back in Queens in East Elmhurst. Our whole theme was this legendary god of the turntables who was able to bring up the legendary lovers of the past. My full stage name was Playboy. Everybody that got close to me just called me Play and that just caught on. We had Romeo, Prince Charming, Herbie the Luv Bug, all these different people with these legendary lovers' names and we said: if you were looking for the ultimate lover this is who you see. Then as life moved on, cats had to get jobs. Kid was part of a different group called The Turnout Brothers and a lot of his members went and got regular jobs and him and me were the only two left standing. His full stage name was The Kid Coolout and everybody close to him called him Kid for short. So then you had Kid 'N' Play. I'm sure his crew had a different focus. Did you think at first like: man this ain't gonna work out. Your style is over here and I'm over there. Or did you immediately click? Nah, never because we were always family. The DJ in his group was the brother of one of the rappers in my group. We were always a close-knit bunch and had friendly competitions and all that. So when that idea came up we didn't even think that seriously about it. This is one question I've wanted to ask you since like sixth grade. What sparked you to be like: I'm dancing and I'm just going to jump over my leg and it's gonna be hot?! It came from dancers we had. We always wanted to do a big show. We were very closely associated with and came up the ranks with Salt-N-Pepa and that's why our shows were similar to theirs. We always had dancers behind us but unfortunately at that particular time, which worked out for the best, unlike Salt-N-Pepa who had more money than we had, we couldn't afford to take our dancers on the road. So we had to consolidate it. Even the kick step was something the dancers did when we had them behind us. Salt-N-Pepa had male dancers behind them and we had female dancers behind us. I sprained my wrist trying to do that move. I heard that went on quite a bit. Of course the secret is practice but it had a lot to do with the shoes you had on and a lot of people didn't know that. We wouldn't even really try it with anything else. From time to time it would be ok but it was the Nike Cortex sneakers. It was like having bedroom slippers on your feet. If anyone was trying with the Adidas or other Nikes the sole was too big and it was hard for you to really do what you had to do because of all the extra rubber on the heel at the bottom. So that was the trick. To me when you guys came out with House Party you changed the game. We did an interview with Jazzy Jeff and he said the movie was originally for him and the Fresh Prince. How did it land in your hands? Yeah it was. It was inspired by Groove B. Chill, you know the cats that kept bumping into the turntables. They and the writers all went to high school together, so it was inspired by them. When they were looking for people to play the parts they wanted Kid and I to do it. But New Line Cinema wanted Fresh Prince and Jazzy Jeff to do it because they were more known. Fresh Prince and them turned it down because New Line Cinema had a lot of nerve; because at the same time they were suing them for that record "Nightmare On My Street." That's why they turned it down. So it didn't work out and we did our little crazy thing playing by the rules and auditioning and it happened. Now in the following movies how much creative control did you get? Because I can't imagine some old white dude coming up with a "Pajama Jammy Jam." We were fortunate enough to have black people who understood. Kid and I have been fortunate in all the movies we did - even "Class Act". And that was written by a white guy we love named Randy Miller. We always had directors that trusted our instinct. They would ask us: would this be said and how legitimate would it be. Sometimes we would just do it both ways and whichever one turned out better when you edit it, that's the one you did. Most of the time they let us do it any way we wanted to. But when there was a disagreement, the compromise was we'll do different takes of each person's version. We came up on Kid 'N' Play so we were there for everything. Besides Hammer y'all the only rappers I know who had their own cartoon and Marvel comic book. What was that experience like. They always wanted us, even till today, to do TV. We weren't really crazy about doing TV because at the time Eddie Murphy had advised us not to do TV unless you absolutely have to. At the same time, at the time, I had a child and I always wanted to do something to be immortalized for him at that age. So the idea came up to do that and that's what happened. Same thing with the comic book. It was just like what was going on now: you have to grow or you're going to explode. It was just a natural thing and may have come off as a little premature but it tickles me now because a lot of cats who would be very vocal about crossing over and selling out look at this now. It's the evolution of what's to be. The only reason that it didn't go longer is because a new NBC president came in and felt very strongly about live Saturday morning programming. That's when "Saved By The Bell" and "Hang Time" and all those shows came in. If it wasn't for that vision it would have lasted. It didn't have anything to do with low ratings, it was just that the president wanted to aim at teens on Saturday mornings. Things gotta run their course and not saying it because I did it. But if it wasn't for a lot of those things happening, I don't know if a lot of people would be benefiting from what they are benefiting from now. Those things had to prove that it worked. Even when it was time to do "House Party", I was reluctant and out voted. I didn't want to do "House Party" because of the track record of a "Tougher Than Leather" or a "Krush Groove". Those were great movies looking back on it in retrospect but at the time they were box office failures. I didn't want to be part of that humiliation. But "House Party" came out and did as well as it did. It cost over 5 million dollars to make it but it turned around and made over 30 million in a short time. I know it must be well over a 100 large now. From investment stats, percentages and averages that's a businessperson's dream. You touched on it a little bit but what is something you feel Kid 'N' Play is responsible for but you haven't gotten your just due? I think we get our just due. I'm fine. I can't really speak for Kid but from the dialogue we had he's cool too. Everywhere I go it's nothing but love. Sometimes you think that I have to have a record or film out now but when I'm around the current rappers today it's nothing but love and respect. They kinda throw out the red carpet treatment. I'm just thankful to live long enough to see the fruits of labor. The new stuff I'm involved in, I'm real excited about. I live life like everyone else, you have your ups and your downs but I know other cats who have been even more instrumental than Kid and I and they treat them unfair. I'm glad we don't get it like that. I think Hammer did an incredible job for rap but sometimes he is like the butt of people's jokes. I don't think it's fair. I think it's unfair how Public Enemy is treated. There should be a tribute to those cats and Big Daddy Kane. Yeah, I remember hearing someone say how they slammed Hammer for doing KFC commercials but now you see mad heads doing things like that. That's my point. It's like cats are seeing that maybe five plus years ago this would be crazy. The only one who has seemed to stick to his guns in regards to keeping it street is KRS-One. Everyone else is doing stuff that if you look five or ten years ago it would be like you sold out. You gotta make a decision: do you want to make friends or do you want to be blessed? Do you want to eat or do you want to be a starving artist? You can talk all that mess when you're younger because you live in your mother and father's house but when you end up having kids, you have mortgage and car notes to pay that keeping it street on the corner ain't gonna hold too much water. Are you still involved in the ministry? I'm involved in witnessing. My whole thing is hip hop and alternative hip hop that some would call Christian or Holy hip hop. My thing is it's stuff that's going to put light into people. If it's gonna raise a question or talk about a problem, it's also going to supply an answer. I think other rap topics are good as well and this is what is going on. But are we going to glorify it and pimp it or are we gonna come up with an answer? I don't get preachy that's not where we're coming from. The cats that I support and represent are coming at it on a real interesting angle real soon. Was there any particular situation that brought you closer to god? Just life. When you invest every dime and all your emotions and physical energy into something that you swear once you get it you're there and come to find out your not. Your tired, in debt and all kinds of crazy stuff go on and come to find out it's nothing but a big façade. All these people you grew up with under the belief that they made it, come to find out when you hang out with them and eat with them they share with you the hell they are going through. It's like if you're that happy why do you buy a new car every month? It's an emptiness that's not being fulfilled. If you got the car you love you not gonna do nothing with that for a long time. If you got the chain you love, why do you have to keep switching it and making it bigger and bigger? Not to judge, because I've been there and done that with the dookie rope chains, big medallions, and a series of Rolexes and all that. It's like clothes: you swear when you get that one outfit you set and next thing you know it's played out and now it's time to get the newer version. Are you doing anything with Frankie Cutlass? No not right now. He's a very cool brother. He helped me and Salt out with this project we are getting ready to come out with at the end of the year called "Rise", which is the first hip hop stage production of its kind. We taking it back doing old school, new school and crazy R'n'B tracks and at the end of the day it's about what is it all for. We're really excited about that and Frankie helped out a great deal getting the musical score together. Rockwilder did most of the stuff so it's really hot. We got Whodini in it, Dana Dane, Kane, some possible participation with Doug E. Fresh and Slick Rick. All that's being discussed and negotiated. The only reason it's taking so long to do is because we insisted that it have the same budget as when you are putting out a movie with all the publicity and bells and whistles that come along with it. It's gonna be kind of hard to ignore in a few months. I read the press release and it said you took a lot from yours and Salt's lives and incorporated it. That's the inspiration. It's a story about two people: a kid named RaPp and his sidekick, a girl. It's based on a lot of real events and things from our experiences: the good and the bad. A lot of comedy and serious moments. It's really hot. A lot of money has been put into it. It's me, her and we are backed by Allan Houston from the New York Knicks. Are there specific morals or lessons to be learned from this or is it mostly entertainment? I guess you can look at it as edutainment. It's really a situation where you need to know your worth because if you don't people will see it before you see it and if they're not good people they are gonna use it and abuse it for all it's worth. And by the time you realize what you have, unfortunately it's too late. We don't get all preachy and all sad. It's like everybody's story: you have the good, the bad, the great and sometimes the ugly. I heard there is supposed to be a twenty-city tour. What is the setup like is it more of a play or musical and who do you see as your main audience? We don't like to call it a play; we call it a stage production. We're looking at places like Baltimore, Philly, Charlotte and New Jersey. We're not interested in the big places like New York until 2005. My hope is that the people that will be drawn to it will be club heads or hip hop heads. It's not a church thing, even though the church relates to it. It's gonna be a party. We have several parts in it where it's a tribute to hip hop where the DJ goes there and has you going down memory lane and the whole nine. It's open to anyone who wants to see it. What's up with this Holy Hip hop album you're supposed to be executive producing? They threw it to me as a gift. My main love is visuals, music videos and movies. I've been fortunate enough to have some pieces that are getting ready to get launched. I have one that is called "Brother Lane's Last Call." It's a real story of an apostle that when he speaks, cats want to kill him. What happens is that we are able to recreate his story and bring in some other friends like Ralph Tresvant from New Edition, Shirley Murdock and a lot of other people. That's gonna be coming out real soon. Me and Salt also did a piece called "Apt. 36b," which is about a cat who loses his love and turns to drugs and drinking and all of that and not caring about life. These are all things that people can relate to but there is a hip hop theme. A cat who loves hip hop can relate to a girl leaving him dying and he turns to get high all the time. That's the cat you see in the neighborhood and you don't know why he's doing that. Same with Brother Lane's Last Call. You can have an evangelist trying to save people's lives but cats out there selling their drugs dissing the preacher are hip hop heads. So it's bringing it a lot of hip hop themes. Could you tell us a little about your company HP4 Digital Works? That's something I started which helps a person bring their vision to fruition from A-Z; whether I consult, participate in the production of it or post production. It's all working through digital equipment, digital cameras and digital editing. It's the not so glamorous part of the entertainment business. Was that something that you were always interested in? It's something that I became interested in. One of the scariest points is where you might have to come to the realization that this particular part of the entertainment business is over. So what do you do? The worst-case scenario or the nightmare of most people is to go back and work at Burger King or McDonalds. You can do that or you can realize some of the things that you were around that intrigued you when you got exposed to them. I became interested and obsessed with filmmaking. Then as a guy that never finished school the thing was: I didn't know anything. So I was really on this search for a trade when it was all said and done. I wanted to learn how to do something. You mentioned Kid earlier what's the relationship between you and him? Are you still on good terms? We're good. He just lives in L.A. and I ain't feeling L.A. I can't put my finger on it but I've never been comfortable in L.A. I did a lot of damage out there. I did what people go to L.A. to do party and meet women. Maybe it's burnout, I dunno. I'm not a big year round warm weather person. I like my seasons. Kid likes the heat and that warm weather so that's really for him. Kid is a great entertainer. He's doing his stand up now. He's an actor and even as a singer. The guy is awesome. He's like a quadruple threat. So for a cat like me who wants to do things behind the scenes you can do that anywhere but for what he wants to do, it's a good location to make things happen. Has everything always been cool with you cats and you just grew apart or was there a split somewhere? I don't understand the break up thing because we're two grown men. If it got to the point where we stuck as close as we were, there would be rumors we were gay or something. The thing is nobody broke up; we grew up. We're all for doing another film. I'm not interested in doing any records but we already agreed to do films. We're not just gonna gobble up anything that's gonna ruin the last impression. We kinda went out on a good note so we want a script that's gonna honor and enhance that. We're good. I don't know where the breakup thing would come from besides the fact that I went through what I went through and gave my life over to the lord and went other ways to finish growing in that. His thing was straight to L.A. and I'm not interested in living in L.A. If we were in the same city or something, then it would be closer to seeing us together a lot. The last couple of times I been there, I stayed at his place and hit a few clubs. So it's all good. What made you do House Party 3 instead of moving to something totally different? It was contractual. Did you have other roles that were coming in or were you pigeonholed by the House Party movies? I had a lot of roles coming in and I guess you can say I turned all of them down. I didn't really think that much of acting. As far as what we did do I'm thankful and how I can be like that is not for myself. Because if it wasn't for those movies I don't know where a lot of actors would be. I'm very happy for Bernie Mac. When we did "House Party 3" I saw "Who's The Man" and I saw him in it and said: I want to get you in "House Party" because you would be perfect to play Robin Harris' brother. And the studio loved it. We didn't have to do it, but we were introducing the world to new talent. We had TLC, Bernie Mac, Candy Alexander, Chris Tucker and it's real great to be affiliated with it. If we didn't do the movies it could have played differently for other people. Last question, do you have any memorable moments from the Kid n Play days that we can take with us? Man there is a whole bunch of them. I just agreed to do a book today that's going to force me to remember a lot of stuff. It's just that some stuff you can talk about and there's stuff you can't. I love Kid man. Him and my oldest son Christopher are the only people that can consistently make me laugh till I cry. It tickles me when I run into cats when they feel they aren't going to make it and they feel it's over and I'm like: how old are you? And they say 15. I'm like what? You still got a long way to go in this thing. We went through a lot but the better times of them all were when we struggled to make it. There were times when Kid would have enough for the brew and I would have enough to get something to eat and we'd put it together and make it happen. There would be times that we would be sitting by the radio and cats were blowing up. I remember one time it was Dana Dane, Salt-N-Pepa, and all of them were at the Apollo. We couldn't go because we weren't on the guest list and then we were by the radio listening to the live performance boiling with anger because we're like "we could do that." The whole thing was a ball and I feel fortunate because a lot of people will never experience it. When it gets bad is when you get greedy and you think it's gonna last forever. But you have to let other people get their shot and get on. from urban smarts

[quote=Jonny 5,Aug 26 2004, 04:26 PM]Bran Van 3000 - Drinking in LA[/quote] ha! i loved that song when it came out :rock:

well said ted..if i was you id never sign with a record label..you'd probably be stuck on their roster for a couple of years and then they'd never release your album anyway.. when the biggest of big artists are getting done on record labels what chance does any new young artist have...

dont let sonys poor promotion of born to reign fool you..fp can go platinum in his sleep

if MTV was smart they'd end the show with will and jazzy doing switch..but mtv aint that smart..but anyway we should get the very latest on switch and aLBum as will is interviewed on the red carpet... it really would be the perfect opportunity to debut switch tho!

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@ paul-hunter.com for august 21 it says, "Paul has just finished wrapping Will Smith's video" so maybe we will see it next week :switch: :rock:

[quote=Da Brakes,Aug 26 2004, 06:01 AM]Errrrrrr. This isnt much of a quiz![/quote] :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

i think kanye needs to listen to "brand nubians - dont let it go to your head" ... "keep your head on solid ground..cause what goes up..must come down"

hopefully when switch drops..and then the album..this place will really blow up :switch: :thanks: