Big Willie

1. Dance With You 2. 50/50 3. Another Day 4. Lullaby 5. If There's Any Justice 6. Time To Grow 7. Its Not That Easy 8. Someone Should Tell You 9. If She Knew 10. Weight Of The World 11. What About Love (Featuring Jls) 12. All I Ever Do (My Boo) 13. The Way Love Goes 14. You Don't Love Me 15. Counting The Days Preview of the first sngle The Way Love Goes here.

Happy New Year!

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!

That trailer is the exact reason I gave the idea an open mind. Looks great, Jaden's got acting chops for sure.

No-one said he was a hero. Just his intentions were good, it was handled very poorly, but it has been somewhat successful. But liek you said, it's just two different points of view.

When I say "answer" I mean the right solution to something. A violent act is never the right solution, but, sometimes, it's unavoidable. That doesn't mean I have to like it. For example, when you have to fight to defend your country from other attacks. The problem resides in the one who starts the violence. Bush was a liar. Your statement is a complete contradiction. I'm guessing what you mean is, violence should be the very last solution, not that its never the answer. Bush was a liar, agreed, but his intentions were still good. Saddam no longer being alive makes the Iraq war somewhat successful.

Violence is never the answer. I was just saying that sometimes it's the only way, like, as Lerkot said, in self-defence cases. Talk about contradicting yourself. If in some cases its the only way, then that makes it the ANSWER for that situation. Taking your country to war to stop a terrorists dictatorship, is not the same as blowing up building (or whatever) for fun. I agree, Bush has been a complete moron at times, but to compare him to Saddam in the terms of what we are discussing, is ridiculous.

To my knowledge, Bush has never plotted to kill as many people as Saddam did. He may not have handled things very well that caused death. Whilst Saddam/Bin Laden sent out suicide bombers to kill people, Bush, as misguided as it may have been, it was in an attempt to stop terror. Yes, subsequently lives have been lost, but it wasnt a "lets go in and kill a few, then come back again". I do agree though, you need stone wall evidence, or an admission before you can even think about the death penalty and only in extreme cases. Saddam Hussein = death penalty.... Ronnie Biggs = just lock him up. The hypocrisy is, that if Ronnie Biggs commmited a murder today, he'd get less time in prison than for his original crime. Rob a train, got to prison for life, kill someone and get 25 years. How is that justice? On the money thing, we have to consider that the amount of money it costs to keep someone in prison is ridiculous. Which subsequently costs tax payers money, which will slow to the economy which contributes to a world wide recession. In America, as far as I'm aware, life in prison, means you aint leaving until your dead. Why should the countries money situation suffer as a result of keeping a murderer alive? Its not the counties fault this person killed someone, its not tax payers fault either, but they all suffer as a result of it. Again, I think only in extreme cases you should turn to the death penalty, but surely, somewhere along the lines, its necessary. You cant say violence is NEVER the answer and then agree that in some cases it is.

Yeah, not only do they get to keep their life, every tax payer is paying for them to do so.

IMO, it's a shame to fight violence with violence. But I guess sometimes it's the only way. I don't know if it every is... self-defence is one thing but other than that, I don't know. Exactly, that's why I'll never support things like the death penalty. The death penalty is extreme, but, why does a murderer deserve to live when the victim cant? Look at what the punishment would be, life in prison. Not only do they get to keep their life, they also still get to see their family, both things the victim cant do. Prison these days, certainly in the UK, is like putting someone up in a slightly dirty hotel for the duration of their punishment. Take Saddam Hussein as an example, all the lives he ruined, all the people he killed, why does he deserve to keep his life? He deserved to be hanging from the rafters. I'm not condoning violence as a whole, but in certain circumstances, for me at least, it is the only way to bring justice to a crime, in extreme cases.

I smell a Jigge type retirement coming on.

Haha, classic. I think its great to finally have competition for the Christmas1 for the first time in years. X Factor has made it far too predictable. I'm not a huge fan of either song tho. The great this is RATM have said they'll give all proceeds to charity and the Facebook group itself has now raise £40,000 for a homeless shelter.

On occassions a violent act can be justified. The death penalty for a murderer, for example. I disagree. Shocking :pound:

On occassions a violent act can be justified. The death penalty for a murderer, for example.

I think the problem is, as far as I'm aware, the cause isnt searchable like a group or fan page would be. Maybe a group would get better results, but starting from scratch when theres nearly 800 members would be silly and a waste of our time already spent on it.

Agreed, he did give off a persona off being a little over confident, which in a competition like that, a winner has always been the modest "I dont know how good I am" singer. Leona being prime example. Alexandra was just glad to be there, and turned out being the total package. I think Danyl just knew how good he was, and thats what people didnt like. The god guy/girl always wins in the talent shows. However, Lemar is living proof that you can have a great career out of not winning.

He's not the victim tho is he really? I dont condone Elin beating him if that is what happened, anymore than I did when CB beat Rihanna. But Tigers been creeping, he can catch the flack for a while, and deservedly so. Having said that, i couldnt care less about his personal life, I admire him for his mentality and abilities on the golf course. There is no equal to his talent, ever! Hope whoever was admitted to Hospital is ok.

My list would be totally different, and College Dropout wouldnt be on it at all. Blueprint and Stankonia would be the only keepers for me. Surprised to see MMLP isnt on there.

Honestly, I'm yet to see this arrogance from Danyl, and I think the people that do think he is arrogant are being mislead by the stories that have been printed, that may or may not be true. From what I've seen, he's been very humble about himself and very encouraging towards other contestants. I may be me missing it, I dunno, but from what I've seen, not what has been written, I see someone confident in their abilities. Joe's a dead lock for winning in my opinion, he'll probably have a decent year, be picked up by a few musicals and live on the West End the rest of his career. He's an amazing vocalist, but he's not a popstar for me. But he is a leading man for stage performances, which is equally as good a career aspiration. Stacey needs to work on her nerves so much, I cringe when she talks to Dermot, when its not live, she speaks pretty well, her being interviewed by Paul O'Grady wouuld be hilarious lol

I dont know how all 3 didnt got further as solo artists, Graziella is a unique talent. As a group they reminded me of Misteeq, or dare I say TLC. Jedward staying as long as they did really screwed up a lot of peoples chances to show their development. I think a lot of contestents will have releases commercially, the last 4 especially. I think Simon has a soft spot for Danyl and will ship him off to America as soon as possible.

The final is up next week, I personally think its a crime Danyl isnt there, for me, he and Joe are head and shoulders above Stacey and Olly from a vocal standpoint, and Danyl probably had the best chance of breaking America. Anyway, to the final.. I think Joe will win, but of who is left, I want Olly to. Joe; Belongs on the West End, he's not a popstar, in my opinion. Stacey; If she wins will constantly be in the shadow of Leona and Alexandra. Olly; Reminds me of Robbie Williams, but dont see him having the career Robbie has. Whoever wins, I see their career heading the way of Shane Ward, Steve Brookstein and Leon Jackson. Even now, I still think Danyl has the best chance of a long term career. Anyone else have any thoughts?

Well, you gotta consider women get waxed regularly in other "sensitive" areas too, I guess we need to clarify if the hair was located on the actual nipple or in the surrounding area. Andy, care to clear that up dude? I cant help but think that the terms being used would be totally different if the conversation wasnt happening on a public forum. And for hers and your sake dude, I hope this girls never finds this forum. Although, it would be hilarious :pound:

Don't go blaming a hairy nipple for your impotence dude :pound:

I hope the 7 new tracks on Relapse: Refill bring this kind of intensity, he's defo got his swagga back, and thinking less about making the commercial crowd pleasers. I havent been this excited about his career sine MMLP!