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Nice and str8 foward. But for your previous stuff, I think I'd get off 50, Em, and Mike Jones for a bit, unless of course you calling for war. "And if a rapper drops an old cliché He’s treated like he’s 2Pac reborn" - I like that a lot. It's very true. Everything else is pretty general, so it'd just be a matter of who would get captivated by your message in the song.

Is any of this gonna be in audio form any time soon?

Yep, kinda givin ups to him. Thanks for the feedback. Prince, I'm surprised you liked that many lines. I guess maybe I should put it up. Should be up at least a half hour from the time of this post.

I think you're right. I think it was suppose to be, everybody do some songs and then burn it to cd and promote this forum. :lolsign: I don't think I should do anymore. I'm already on like 3 or 4 tracks. People I've collabed with seemed to have used it as their submission. Then we got people that "submit" a song but don't do it right. No link of any kind or anything like that. The slate probably needs to be clean and everything rewritten down.

Top Ten Eminem??? (eww!) - Ted you just ate your own words. That's THEIR top ten FAVORITE. You graduated high school, so you should know what favorite means. "prefered above others". I don't even seriously follow every of these artists in my Top Ten Favorites, but they're there. 1. DJ Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince 2. Rakim 3. Talib Kweli 4. NaS 5. 2pac 6. The Game 7. Mobb Deep 8. LL Cool J (yet I don't have any albums except "The Definition", but a lot of what I do hear, I like) That's really all the Hip Hop artists that are truly favorites. I've got some Jay-Z, Memphis Bleek, a DMX, a Kanye, P. Diddy & Fam, Dr. Dre, Lil Bow Wow, Various Artists, even a couple 50 Cent. And not eveyrthing is bought, maybe burned. Outta the others mention, 50 Cent is the only one. Some are a regular, a sometimes, a rarely, or maybe never again; but it's in my collection. Anybody wanna knock me for "The Game" or "Mobb Deep"? I don't even agree with everything some of the artists I'm fans of do sometimes. Commercial?, Underground?, Me? Huh? What? - Divided yet again. Hip Hop vs Rap, Commercial/Mainstream Artists vs Underground Artists, and now even the fans themselves. They may sound stupid, but this mainstream/underground is almost like the earthly terms themselves. Everybody can see the stream, but for underground they've got to dig. Some underground sneaks up tho. There's more underground than is mainstream, but what's seen first? If it wasn't for the underground, there wouldn't be a mainstream. (insert whatever artists you think did it) Eventually, some of that underground turned into mainstream. Now, fan base. How does that work? I'm commercial for Will Smith, I'm underground for Hieroglyphics, or better yet Da Brakes. Hmm, nobody is certain about Talib Kweli, but he has fans notheless. Perfect example. A fan is a fan is a fan. Please, let's just leave it at that. Just call somebody a commercial fan if they like everything commercial or an underground fan if they like everything underground. Maybe they get a lil offended cuz they don't think about that stuff. Just what they like. And it just so happens to be all commercial or all underground, yet that never bothered them. Common ain't even all that to me. He seems to be a hype man now. For the New Years at MTV, the interviewer asked him where Hip Hop was going (because he was a true and real artist, and those others weren't, yet and still MTV manages to promote such "garbage". *This just in*, it's called "Music TeleVision". So they air music, period. Maybe it's some biased stuff going on in the office, who knows. But it's the people that vote it. Maybe here's another statistic that comes into play. More "mainstream fans" have computers or phones, or whatever than "underground fans". Or time, or care or whatever for that matter. Does Little Brother even get to MTV? No, but maybe they didn't want to send it their. (I couldn't tell you if they did or not) Perhaps the networks aren't as hypocritical as some people may think. All day, you see on BET or 106 & Park, shiny stuff, women gyrating and doing more shaking than most powerful earthquakes do to land, the occassion all up in my grill shots, the blank out of more than half a verse, etc. That is BET's average or maybe more than, musical viewings. And then you see on 'Jeff Chronicles', "What's wrong with Hip Hop?" I unfortunately missed it. VH1's version didn't really help me much either. It wasn't anything I hadn't heard before. Does mainstream ignore underground? You are right in that sense Ted. But I think there is more to it. It's easily shown on this board too. New Kel Spencer. Not eveyrbody is interested in a new. Hieroglyphics even. Tim converted some peole over to listening. Myself included. (one day I just asked him the best to check out, and I really liked it) It's always going to be hard for underground to be heard. With MTV and BET, it's there for you easily if you wanna check it out. With underground, it's the same idea, but a bit harder. So when somebody acts as a MTV or BET with these underground artists, of course people will be skeptical. Say you was a fan of Will in your early years. You lost track of him and for maybe 25 years, you ain't heard nothing. But Will's still going. So you missed out, but you still love Will's music. At least what you heard before. Somebody mentions Will, and you go to that more easier than say Pep Love. It's always harder as an underground artist (of course it depends on the difficult the artist themselves feel they have) and the fans too, again much like the artist. LL & Ludacris - Here he is collabing Juelz Santana and Freeway and everybody is going nuts or at least feelin it. LL even said it himself he wanted the cars and the girls and all that stuff. All he did was get in game and do it. He didn't change who he was or what he rep'd. "For y'all that don't know the LL stands for Ladies Love, I'm a do a song that will smack you right in the face with it. He did "I Need Love". Has anybody ever heard a rap ballad since? (I'd really like to know cuz it's had to keep up with every single bit of Hip Hop) Of course he had songs for the ladies before hand, but that was just a whole new level people didn't think was in him. KRS One and the logic - How did Sugarhill Gang ruin Hip Hop? (how did KRS One say it exactly when he stated that SHG ruined Hip Hop. I'm almost afraid that maybe you read it wrong.) Like you said Ted, KRS is a "Hip Hop Purist". So Hip Hop in it's truly pure form goes back to all elements in one atmosphere. DJ, Emcee (at the time less), Breakdance, and Graffiti Art. It was a place to go and to enjoy. Nobody knew about it but the people that wanted to be around it. That lady that found the Sugarhill Gang, may not have been the very 1st with the idea, but she's credit as so. Greed has apparently been around forever. Survival even. How is it that the human being themselves got them dependent on money?, I have no idea. "Wow! All these people came here to see a show and have fun." From there, I guess a price was over everyone's head. Some of Hip Hop is not free no more. But think, every single one of those elements, people can still do without a dime, just as they did when Hip Hop 1st came about. Seems like the elements aren't as respected or just what money can do for somebody. It's very evident today. I think the reason KRS One said SHG ruined Hip Hop is for several reasons. SHG used/stole/??? rhymes from Grandmaster Caz for "Rapper's Delight". They said "yes" to that woman. Hip Hop is ruined because it is a worldwide phenomenon? Maybe KRS thinks it should've stayed in New York or more particularly the Bronx, I don't know. Even if it wasn't SHG, that lady could've got someone else. No question. So if KRS wants to point the finger at somebody, maybe it should be that woman too. KRS One is confusing sometimes, but I commend you for following, analyzing and trying to understand him anyway. It is hard. Have can he criticize the beginnings when he gives props to Eminem for his song "Lose Yourself"? Or Nas even. I don't remember much of anything about his say on West Coast artists, or even international. But I know he's stated opinon about them.

I think that would be some dope graffiti art on a Philly wall if it hasn't been done already.

With them mentioning, "Tell Me Why", I think that is a very good sign. It's coming...

LL Cool J feat. Juelz Santana - It's LL & Santana

Maybe those who ghost write do it because they know they can be of help to somebody, but don't want the credit or fame. Yet some of them have turned around and got jealous. "I'm the ghost writer of the century and I've carried all your top hip hop rap artists on my back." Hip Hop's divisions are really starting to bother me. It's almost like that slave thing where it was "Let them hate and kill themselves off." The race is Hip Hop, but they split it... Hip Hop vs Rap, Mainstream vs Underground, Freestylers vs Writers. I think everybody feels like they have a need to find the EXACT answer as to what constitutes a rapper, emcee, freestyler, ghostwriter, and everything surrounding. I don't know if it's suppose to general knowledge or if people are afraid of these changes.

I hadn't recorded a freestyle in a while, and I seem to be accustom to doing one before I "put out" an album. After I recorded a song, I did a freestyle to two beats. Little Brother's "Hiding Place", and Talib + Hi Tek's "Ghetto Afterlife". I'm not sure about posting it. Here's the lyrics tho. I couldn't make everything out, but I'm definately getting better freestyling. I typed it as accurate as possible, even what's not literally correct. Feedback appreciated. “Promotional Freestyle” Intro: Yo, where you gonna hide, when that 2006 Peace of Mind drops? Yo, yo, come on, be like… Where ya goin’ hide.. Yo, where ya goin’ run? Nowhere Yo, yo, yo Verse: You mind as well just let me the **** thru I’ll be on that high school mode of the attitudes where b****es get fooled It’s not understand, don’t mess wit my food Or I’ll do you like Talib Kweli said he do on “Rock On” Feelin’ it and bein’ we can box on This is how we do it and gettin’ wit the track Something to form, back in 1986 I was born in a section when the Jesus get fixed with a not face on religion or the superstition with the prestigious of crack in the way that we livin’ And in advance, so, put ya wristbands in the air Understand, feelin it, rock it up in the cd player Mispronounce my name, you get ****! Then you understand it’s like to get ducked But ain’t no bullets fired, desire to bein’ gangstas All this time 50 Cent years on, and still wankstas Understand where ya gonna hide Can’t hide nowhere when I drop the vibe Yo, understand where ya, can’t hide Yo, can’t nowhere, when I drop the vibe Spoken: Aight, might as well go speechless with that one Yo, where ya gonna hide… Verse: Yo, I got the ?persive? decisive for all the personalities that wanna feel like they can understand the lifeness Nobody can write the likeness of my story That’s why I tell it myself, and when I spit, it’s not boring Even if I kick it simplistic and go easy and deep spoken like as if I was Rakim Gettin in so many of them emcees Where ya destiny to be, gettin down on ya knees But you suck worse than a ho giving fellatio Understand what it’s like to get the dough Want any mo’ spinnin chains? You went from chains to ya ankles to chains on ya neck And even tho still you get and cause disrespect Hip hop’s drawn down the line It’s like dark vs light, black vs white And wrong vs right, but that one’s ok, even tonight And understand the recite, understand what it’s like Lookin down in the face, you feelin these mics And feelin the hype of spittin, competition may get electrocuted Try to understand you might as well just sit like Buddhas Where ya gonna hide when it’s understandin’ wit the statutory Never boring, understand you makin more and Lookin into Pac eyes, poster’s on my wall Tryna figure out if I can stand, and got the gaul Pack more lyrics than can be put in a U-Haul Understand the van of movin’, I got the hands I’m raisin’ to smack them like I’m Pimp C n**** Understand the way of gettin’ back and bein figures Can’t help but cuss and can’t help the suction of bitin’ their style, milk’s gone sour And so I devour the power All these emcees think they last when they cds ain’t worth the hour What it mean to pay ‘em $18 Then, uh, how you do it, makin’ everybody holla I got my favorite flavor like LL comin’ out When I drop it down wet, rain, ain’t no droughts Ain’t no routes, of where ya goin’ hide Feel the vibe You ain’t hidin’ nowhere when the vibe come out Yo, this Peace of Mind, yo yo, this Peace of Mind Verse: Yo, straight line path finder, yo pack and got symmetry This is how I do it, take it slow with my delivery Thinkin’ the freestyle was nonexistent and then it’s something bout the way I got it, like John Legend “Get Lifted” And you can understand I’m getting’ spirited way that I been kickin it Yo, you might as well be shack like the radio that’s sellin you appliances Then you can understand why I rock it and it’s kinda getting a pack and a feelin’ over all of these bitches What is gettin’ ???? Where ya goin’ hide, nowhere for the vibe “Ghetto Afterlife” is what’s next, beat on the mind, right (“Ghetto Afterlife” Instrumental comes in) Haha, I told you Verse: Yo yo, they these n****z aint thugs, the real thugs is the government Well, I’m a be very re-bel-lious George Bush might as well get outta here wit that Ran from Katrina in 4 days flat And it’s like that, not give a damn about a black man ???????? Black fists is understandin’, upliftin’ of the revolution And then a, how you do it when you gotta get into it Just to take ya melodies, try to follow felonies Then ya deci???, what’s the difference between rapper and an emcee? Define it by the dictionary Webster couldn’t understand the way it’s gotta be I’m mad at Pac for using thug just so he could say it I’m mad at people, understand the way to different play it And Eminem jeopardizing sound of production Couple months after, still bitter bout it Bringin’ the levels adjusted, yeah Verse: Do you think that I’m a fool That I’m a get raspy and say ‘Put It On Me’ like Ja Rule Getting kinda crazy with the wheeling out the track So understand, I’m gettin’ dip set, Diplomat Try to shoot at like Obie Trice or Cam’ron Then you’ll see what’s it like when a new dawnin of days form Miami, the wetter the rain But it don’t drip on me like Will Smith in the video man When it’s like this, then understand the track star Feelin’ how you do it when it’s on and nobody’s on the same par I blow the smoke in ya face and I ain’t even got a nicotine taste, yo Would you understand the adjacent of flavor of kickin it? This how I do it, deliverin’, makin’ they shiverin’ And we’re just in the month of January Once hit February, it’s the month for us to study ????, put the hand with the buddy And the feelin’ understandin’ when the back room get bloody And feel enough to get it, dial-up and get it online You can understand wit the feelin’ vibe of that rhyme Verse: I’m a give it to you straighter than a hetersexual tryna get it twisted like a homosexual, but doesn’t happen tho Think it’s been phobia-ish? No fear for those that wanna get wit the chest that’s flat like that and the bulge is in the middle Feelin’ how they do it? get and pose ‘em with that riddle Get away from sexuality, the beastility of bein’ proud of these themes Emcees not readin’ the instruction, got they knees buckin’ And understand to like it, aim it back to the suction Universal magnetic, respect it, the fact the Mos Deffer title Feel and understand struggle for survival Rollin that dice, and it’s so six sided Six shooter, flip it, revolutionary writer Dealin’ how you divided playin Russian Roulette Then you understand the feelin, the bullet got more sweat than you do when it’s elixir, luxurious ya brain And understand, the heavy getter, back into contain And if it’s getting twisted with the lyrical abilities to killin’ emcees off like pop, pop, pop! Understand the drop, don’t think that I’m a fool -------------------------------------------------------- My only complaint is I said "understand" way to much. :lolsign: Maybe some other stuff too.

FuQ - Insight Rhyme (Album Version) Just double checking a finished product.

I can't really see anything wrong with it. It feels quite soulful.

I would've liked to hear that Kanye said a lot more. They're all puppets in this game, unfortunately.

I always wondered about that myself. Someone like Britney Spears or Monica, or even Mary J. Blige don't write their own stuff at times, yet have put out some of the best music a generation's ever heard. Actually, when I think about it, R&B singers don't seem to have ghostwriters. They come on out and say that "so and so" wrote this song for me. I don't agree with that "rapper" definition he stated. I think the big deal about ghostwriting not being as accepted in Hip Hop as anything else is because it was a voice for the people, and anybody could speak about what they felt like saying. I remember on one of the Tupac DVDs I have, it was said that Ray Luv actually wrote the song "Trapped", but Pac just felt that represent his own voice just as well, so he asked to use it. But on the insert, Pac is credit for the lyrics.

Maybe we should discuss Will Smith and Kel Spencer.

I saw this a couple days ago. Suge, Cam'ron, Obie Trice, whose next?

Talib Kweli - Two & Two (Right About Now)

That 3rd one has me wondering if she knows what she's doing to those seriously attracted to her. Turntable, I think you've done more than earned your keep.

It's scarier that these conversations where kept to serve as fillament to your sick twisted minds.

Everything looks tip top. Very attractive site.

Come on. Look, Em is "retiring". I think that says it all.

Perhaps he is living his. Running the JJFP Forum, and becoming a big name in the minds of those he serves.

Talib Kweli + Hi Tek - "The Blast"

Curse you Turntable!!!!! :lolsign: I tried and tried. Anyway, where did you find that pic? Any others like it? I swear I saw some booty cheeks.

You may have just did Brakes a favor. Bring those horses to water.