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This is off-topic but if I were in a position of power, I would have Chief ban. There is a difference in being funny, and just being stupid. :daveuidiot: :topic:

LL Cool J - I Need A Beat (Radio) 1985

"And I wonder why they dont spend their dollars more wise" - that was just sucha dope line. " These lil girls actin older, moaning from under the sheets Their innocence being leeched, from what men ask they beseech" - that was great and so very true. "What's mine and what's his, when we all heard about Dr. King ris- En for peace and unity in the nation he living in, we livin in Pay your divindends, a country divied is a sin, the one we livin' in" - that was top notch flow, and I would love hear these lines time and time again. I'd probably be reciting it. The song is amazing. You really put the female's voice out and for people to listen. The lyrics were great.

TopDawg. Those are very much the same things I was thinking about. The whole fear of black men. That can be either or a subconscious or just a way to protect yourself in today's society. If I were female, I don't care if it was 3 white, blacks or whatever. If I didnt feel safe, the door is locked. So something like that, I don't say "this person thinks all guys or this group is after sex". I look at it as "This is the society we live and and you can't be too safe with such a situation". And I'm not saying I except it. It's more of I know it exists and I have to be careful. It's not going to change overnight. It's hard for me in a different aspect because I feel I can't be accepted period. Obviously, I'm mixed. My birth mom was black and I guess my birth dad was italian or something. So I don't estill that same pride that other blacks do because I'm seen so differently. And when I was watchin O'Reiley Factor, O'Reiley basically gave terrorists the idea of "Attack the big major cities" because if a natural disaster or terrorist attack strikes, they just won't be ready or something like that. I forget how he said it.

Neato rhyme. I lost the spots of it's flow a couple times. It's nice to see a futuristic sense like that.

"Not by age, but by knowledge is wisdom acquired." - Remember that ted. Just because someone has lived on this earth for a longer time than another, doesn't mean they necessarily know more. Sure they had plenty of opportunities, but maybe they didn't use them. I'm not saying your wrong for what you said. At least in this case, but don't assume such a thing.

If that banning is serious. That's is utterly and completely ridiculous of such a cultural involvement like BET. I'd really like a source to that one. And if that were true, why is Nate Dogg appearing in a video. Or is it because he's a feature with Mack 10? And guys, when you blame Bush, your actually blaming the Bush Adminstration. Of course, not everything rests on Bush's shoulders. You vote for either Bush or Kerry or whoever but behind them is a whole regime of people alike.

At first I read this as a poem, but I caught on to the rhyme scheme. The emotion and feeling is there no doubt. You had a lot of triggering words in the verse.

Doesn't surprise me. Maybe him and Moss will take Oakland to the Superbowl. Who knows.

Hey y'all. I got sent this from a buddy on AIM "bagotrasho: Kanye West sent all of his friends this message on myspace.............. PLEASE! POST A BULLETIN ABOUT BUSH OR RE-POST MY BULLETIN " From: KanYe West Date: Sep 4, 2005 4:58 PM im still with my story! GEORGE W. BUSH! HATES BLACKS!! My plea is this, and I hope you will hear it Please stop the chaos Stop hurting each other. Do only what will be helpful. To our government officials, please do whatever it takes to bring aid and relief to our suffering people, and do it immediately. To my fellow artists and entertainers, please give your time and use your voice to help spread a message of unity. Please, let's come together in this time of crisis to help our people and our communities and our country. Let's volunteer, donate our time and money, or help in whatever ways we can "

I forget you weren't from America and I was thinkin of the colleges here. My mistake. :willvspaparazzi:

Well, I just watched and listened to what Kanye said. Now, there are a bit of ways to look at this. Kanye stuttered and nervously spoke through all of it. I've gotten that way before. Obviously, he was speaking his own mind. Not some cue card. Myers nodded his head in agreement as Kanye was speaking. Kanye said "black people" to reach out more I guess. Of course he didn't have to, but he did. Now the "George Bush doesn't care about black people" statement. How can Kanye say that when there are other races suffering there as well? That's the majority. And besides, it's not like all he said was "Black people this and black people that". He said poor, black, less well off. But I can't make excuses for the man. Myers looked, I guess shocked when West said that. Maybe because he was a Bush supporter and I don't think Kanye was suppose to speak during that part because his mic volume was off or lowered. All you heard was room echo. So perhaps Kanye said that so then Bush would prove him wrong and "do something" about it. Maybe he took that to heart, and what he said is bigger than the destruction from the hurricane. It just opened eyes. Only Kanye knows why he said what he said. Or at least he better had.

Chuck D isn't the only Hip Hop acting on this in someway... ____________________________________________ Katrina: Hip-Hop Reacts and Responds By Tiffany Hamilton, Houston Williams & Nolan Strong “There were like bodies floating past my front door,” one New Orleans resident said weeping. “We did the best we could.” The masses remain shocked, stunned and saddened by the annihilation left by Hurricane Katrina on Louisiana, Mississippi and parts of Alabama. The Hip-Hop community was built on a foundation of struggle and anguish, but the destruction The lull is over. Various notables are leveraging their star power to raise money or help in the relief effort. Sean “Diddy” Combs, Jay-Z, David Banner, Master P, James Prince of Rap-A-Lot Records and others are spearheading a variety of projects aimed at aiding those displaced by the hurricane. Moguls Diddy and Jay-Z are contributing to the effort by donating $1 million to the American Red Cross. Furthermore, both men run apparel companies and will contribute clothing from their Sean John and Rocawear collections for those in dire need. Diddy told AllHipHop.com, “This needs to happen. We want to do more in the future, because this is going to be a long process (of rebuilding). This is something that we are doing for our people. Those are our bothers and sisters – our family. It hurts.” “We, as African American men and leaders of our community felt it was a necessity to join forces and help,” Jay-Z agreed via a statement. “Diddy and I are committed to supporting our people in whichever way we can." Combs and Jay-Z expect to present their $1 million dollar check during a September 9 telethon that cable network BET is organizing in conjunction with the American Red Cross. Many had to evacuate their homes, leaving everything but the bare necessities behind. New Orleans started evacuating people from the city on August 28 in preparation for Hurricane Katrina, which struck the city the next day on August 29. The storm imposed its mighty will on those that didn’t flee the city. The total damage assessment to New Orleans and the surrounding areas could top $25 billion. Rappers and entertainers are already lining up to assist fund raising and contributing to the relief effort. Although some entertainers are eager to help, some within the African American community believe there is a general lack of backing, concern and support from the federal government. "If we [as the United States] could put a million people, a million solders in Afghanistan and Iraq, we can definitely put the same effort towards New Orleans, and Mississippi," Juvenile said at a press conference hosted by BET and The American Red Cross, "They have the ability to fly down and save people. All I’m asking is please take some time out and put forth the same effort - if not more - towards [helping] our country, because [we are in] the United States and we are trying to make it." Bad Boy artist Young City (aka Chopper) echoed the sentiments of his New Orleans brethren. "I just think that it's real crazy that our government ain't kicking in to send something to New Orleans." Young City told Allhiphop.com, "He's [President Bush] talking about how we need to help people in Iraq but he isn't even concerned with people in our own country." With a prevailing dissatisfaction, the masses within New Orleans have started to march in protest, all the while being wrought with intolerable health conditions, chaos, looting and even reported acts of rape. BET’s live telethon has already secured talent like David Banner, Jay-Z, Juvenile, Diddy, Common, Stevie Wonder and others like Omarion. The event is in conjunction with the National Urban League, American Red Cross, Warner Music Group and Essence magazine to produce and raise money for victims of Hurricane Katrina. Others like Banner are organizing independent concerts to raise money for local aid. James Prince, CEO of Rap-A-Lot Records, has opened a shelter in Houston, Texas to house those in need of a place to stay and Master P. and his wife Sonya Miller announced the formation of Rescue One, an organization dedicated to helping residents cope with the aftermath of the hurricane. Master P, reared in New Orleans’ Calliope projects, explained, “We are contributing our own money toward items such as food, clothes and shoes and we are also reaching out to corporations for donations. Sonya is reaching out to companies for product donations for mothers, like Pampers and Gerber baby food, as well as soliciting donations of items helpful to ladies and girls.” Juvenile, who helped popularize New Orleans with his Cash Money Records brethren, was visibly shaken when speaking of the Hurricane and its devastating effect on the city and surrounding areas. “I am obviously devastated by my personal loss but thank God that I was able to get my family out to safety while many families were not so fortunate,” Juvenile said. “In the aftermath thousands of people in New Orleans and Mississippi are struggling to survive without food, shelter, running water or a way to contact loved ones.” Master P. told the Associated Press that his uncle, father-in-law and sister-in-law were still missing. New Orleans natives Baby, Juvenile, Lil’ Wayne, Young City and countless others have lost their homes, businesses, studios and other personal assets due to the horrific storm. The United States announced today (September 2) that they would seek a total of $10 billion dollars in funding to rebuild the flooded city. Comedian Chris Rock expressed skepticism at the current relief effort that has and contrasted it with the war abroad. “We are rebuilding Iraq right now and I don’t know if four guys with box cutters will fly a plane into a building again, probably not,” Rock said. “But I do know if we don’t take care of these millions of people America will be destroyed, because this will bring the whole country down." Thousands of domestic refugees from Louisiana are currently being transported from the Superdome in New Orleans to the Astrodome in Houston, Texas. According to President Bush, The Coast Guard has rescued almost 2,000 people of the thousands in need. President Bush stressed patience, noting that the storm had battered four states and said the cleanup “will take years.” "We're dealing with one of the worst national disasters in our nation's history," Bush said. "This is going to be a difficult road." Many entertainers are still reeling from the effects of the Katrina and are still searching for family members. Fats Domino, the pioneering R&B singer was recently found alive and well after missing reports surfaced. Others haven’t been so lucky. "I got fifty cousins down there now," Snoop’s younger brother Bing Worthington told Allhiphop.com. “My family is from Macomb, Mississippi and my grandmother is in Jackson, Mississippi. This is touching home because Macomb has been hit. No power, no water, no nothing. It’s not as bad as Louisiana, but they been hit. Everybody’s feeling the wrath." Images of officials in the Bush Administration vacationing and accusations that Bush undercut flood control funding for the city angered some. The president cut funding that would have improved the levee holding back the waters of Lake Pontchartrain, according to a report in the Washington Post. Katrina smashed through the embankment flooding New Orleans in a manner never seen before. Furthermore, Democrats have accused Bush of a slow response to the hurricane, which initially punched through the city on Monday August 30. According to reports, Bush didn’t return to Washington from his Texas ranch until Wednesday afternoon. "I seen [George W. Bush] walk out [on television] with a dog. He was on vacation!" Bing continued. "When things go wrong, no one’s around.” Aside from the issues with the president, Sean “Diddy” Combs took issue with the broad media portrayal of African Americans. The Bad Boy mogul told AllHipHop.com, “If ain’t got nothing to eat…I’m gonna loot. If I was out there, I’m gonna loot believe that. If I got my kids, I’m going to get some water, something to eat, some sheets…those are necessities,” Diddy said. “I ain’t seen nobody carrying TV’s.” Even before the tragedy called Katrina, New Orleans had societal problems that received little press. The city like other cities considered to be the “Deep South,” has the lowest reported high school graduate rates, the highest number of teen pregnancy and a dismal employment ratio. “These places were horrible before any of this happened, have you been to New Orleans outside of Bourbon Street?” Chris Rock asked rhetorically. “All I have to say is that everyone needs to send as much money as they can humanly can to the United States Red Cross.” Master P said he and Baby of Cash Money never spoke prior to the crisis in their hometown. The New No Limit mogul said adversity brings out an opportunity for the Hip-Hop community and the general population to unite. "We have all been in so much competition and this is the only thing that brought us together. It ain’t about how many records you sell, how many movies you make, how many cars, you have,” he said. “All of that is irrelevant when you are talking about how many lives we can save now. It’s about how many times we can come together and do our part." For more information on how to donate or to get involved log onto www.redcross.com or click here for a listing of other charities in AllHipHop.com’s Ill Community. Source: AllHipHop.com

That Tim, is a riddle that we will never know the answer to. Or do we even care to know that answer. Sppooooky. :hmm:

Kanye West - Hey Mama (Late Registration - 2005)

After reading the full transcript. I think that was some strong statements for Kanye to make. I just wish he would have understood and pre-apologized before making such a statement. Like "I'm sorry but this has to be said..." A lot of you are saying that wasn't the right place to say such a thing. Well, it was all about the Hurricane and helping the victims. As far as I'm concerned, what he said did. He's voice reached new ears to pitch in, and old ears to keep doing whatever they are doing to help. Had it been 2pac or Nas, Public Enemy or CHuck D; I guess it would have been a different story. Do y'all remember the end of the movie John Q? Nas was in a clip and said "The government doesn't care anything about us man." Do U got a problem with that? That's basically the same thing Kanye said. Maybe it wasn't good to make it a race thing. Just say, we need to help 'people' in New Orleans. And that's it. The Human Race. End of story. And I think it's almost funny how New Orleans is the murder capital of the United States. Or the runner up or something. I tuned into the news and they said in the Dome, that rapes had occured, fights broke out, a guard's gun was snatched and people shot, pregnancies, and probably a whole lotta other **** . U know? We do what we can to help, but this is the ways of the world. Sometimes I wonder about a lot of stuff that's contradictory or moral/realisticly wrong. Live 8 was done to make people aware of the situation. And that was the same with the NBC Concert. What's the situation? West says black people not getting the help they need like if it was someone else in their shoes right now. Things gone wrong, and people are just trying to make them right.

Amerie - All I Have (All I Have) her 1st album

I read it once earlier today. I just read it again. Man, that is some powerfully said stuff. For some reason, it made me think of Wyclef Jean's "If I Were President" song that he did on Chappelle's Show. He went crazy as the song went on. The 1st 3 verses are very much relevant still today. THis would be a great, rare longer song for sure.

I think this is more relevant to the Hurricane ordeal, than to Kanye himself. Same deal with Chuck D. People say "Kanye's so cocky. I hate his attitude." You could almost say he's the Muhammad Ali of today's Hip Hop. But yet poeple say "I hate how he's so cocky, but I like his beats." So he must be doing something right.

It's so cool to Chuck D show off his lyrics like the bit of us that do it here at JJFP. When the sone becomes available, I'm gettin' it.

"It's a task in itself, but maybe it's also a deep passion" - dope line "We ain't all gonna be famous So it's important to know that there's other ways to get your say in" - really sticks out That was a nice song overall. I think with the right beat, it could really uplift people's spirits who aren't sure they like who they are. Your so much like your role models. Making songs, and years from now, they are still relevant in the present day. Funny, I was diggin thru my rhymebooks last nite as well.

I am getting so feed up and frustrated with you guys. To Turntable, if you want to know why "He's The DJ, is a game changer. I explained it back a page. About 4 or 5 people told you it was a "double album". I told you why it is a game changer. Plain and simple, it made work ethic more. After that, what they did wouldn't be a "double album" by today's standards. Now a double album is two cds. U got me? It is amazing me how some you can talk up a bunch of real good points, but the solid points I'm making with what (and I say) little that I know isn't registering with y'all. And ted, I wasn't saying that female rappers don't count for such a topic. I just amazed at how none of us can say they stood out for a "Game Changing" album. There probably is a female rapper that did a big thing to get the likes of MC Lyte and Queen Latifah started, but she's jsut overlooked. Probably someone we may not recognize if we saw the name. I know there's gotta be some Hip Hop facts left out that arent majorly known.

I didn't think much of the show myself when it was first being promote. But after I watched it, I figured it be a nice thing to tune into. I like the games that they do.

Eminem does not have a Game Changing album. All he was was a popularity contest in hip hop. U can say, Em got in the game doing what nobody was doing at that particular time because that aspect of skill had faded away. He just did that, and in his own voice. Geez. Ice Cube is a cool artist, but he didn't change the game. So he won a grammy for Amerikkka's Most. You guys are really trying to give too much credit. Maybe even play favorites. The Fugees, as much as U may like them, they did not have a Game Changing album. The Score is a classic from them, no doubt, whether U happen to like it or not. JJFP, now U can put them in there. "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" is very much a game changing album because it was the 1st so called "Double Album". They changed the way artists put out material. And probably how work ethic was looked at. And 2pac, well, he just carried that on because he felt he had to. And he did. Now people seem to be trying to do that for one reason only... 'Dead Presidents' No doubt Game Changers that U Can Not Argue. Paid In Full - Eric B + Rakim Raising Hell - Run DMC JJFP - He's The DJ... The Chronic - Dr. Dre and there's a few more that's been mentioned already that slip my mind. And correct me if I'm wrong on this one, but why hasn't a female rap artist been mentioned in all this? U mean to tell me none of them did such a thing in the rap game, even if it was just for women only. No MC Lyte, Queen Latifah, etc.? I mean not even one? If that's the case, that'd probably be all it'd take for women to truly have a standing role in Hip Hop.

My guess is it was probably Sway. If he said "Rap Legends", shame on him with his categorizing. Now if he was talkin' popularity and hype, then he's is as correct can be.