Jazzy Julie

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yep thats it. i found a link but its a very skeptical one, its got some good points tho. 'In the City of God there will be a great thunder' Nostradamus, the French astrologer born in 1503, published his barely scrutable collection of prophecies, "The Centuries," in 1555. Each four-line verse (or "quatrain") purported to foretell world events far into the future, and ever since Nostradamus' time devotees have claimed his work accurately predicted wars, natural disasters and the rise and fall of empires. With all due respect to true believers, Nostradamus couched his "prophetic" verses in such obscure language that the words can be, and have been, interpreted to mean virtually anything. Inevitably, ponderous tracts will be written in the coming months and years extracting "proof" from the works of Nostradamus that he foresaw the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks of September 11, 2001 — such exegeses-in-hindsight have appeared in the wake of every modern catastrophe — but, thanks to Internet hoaxers, we needn't wait months or years for the he-told-you-sos to begin. "Spooky" quatrains purportedly describing the events of 9/11 with amazing specificity were already circulating within hours of the first jetliner crash — completely bogus quatrains, as it turned out. It wasn't a question of whether or not they accurately predicted anything; Nostradamus simply didn't write them. The first foretold "a great thunder" in "the City of God": "In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb", The third big war will begin when the big city is burning" - Nostradamus 1654 Let's interpret. Assuming "the City of God" is New York City, then the "two brothers torn apart by Chaos" must be the fallen towers of the Word Trade Center. The "fortress" is obviously the Pentagon, the "great leader" succumbing is the United States of America and "the third big war" can only mean World War III. Spooky, right? Wrong. Now let's apply a little intellectual honesty. What earthly (or unearthly) justification could there possibly be for characterizing New York City as "the City of God?" Why refer to the twin towers as "two brothers" when a far more apt word like "buildings" or "monuments" — or even, egad, "towers" — is at hand? Granted, "fortress" accurately describes the Pentagon, but by what stretch of the imagination could one assert that the United States "succumbed" to the 9/11 attacks? Anyway, quibbling over words is futile, given that Nostradamus didn't even write the passage. He died in 1566, nearly a hundred years before the date of attribution. The quatrain in question is nowhere to be found in his entire published oeuvre. In a word, it's a hoax. More precisely, its attribution to Nostradamus is a hoax. The passage was lifted intact from a Web page (since deleted from the hosting server due to overwhelming post-9/11 traffic) containing an essay written several years ago by college student Neil Marshall entitled "A Critical Analysis of Nostradamus." Marshall invented the quatrain to demonstrate — quite ironically, in light of its subsequent misuse — how a Nostradamus-like passage can be so cryptically composed as to lend itself to myriad interpretations. An interesting variant of the same faux prophecy showed up in the soc.culture.palestine newsgroup on September 12 under the heading "They followed his prediction": In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb' 'The third big war will begin when the big city is burning' - Nostradamus 1654 ...on the 11 day of the 9 month that...two metal birds would crash into two tall statues...in the new city..and the world will end soon after" "From the book of Nostradamus" Again, while the text boasts all the pomp and musty vagueness of Nostradamus' actual writings, it cannot be found in whole or in part anywhere in "The Centuries." This, too, is an Internet hoax, an elaboration on Neil Marshall's invented quatrain. A third variant is "spookier" yet: Subject: Re: Nostradamus Century 6, Quatrain 97 Two steel birds will fall from the sky on the Metropolis. The sky will burn at forty-five degrees latitude. Fire approaches the great new city (New York City lies between 40-45 degrees) Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up. Within months, rivers will flow with blood. The undead will roam earth for little time. This, it turns out, is not entirely fake, but rather an imaginative revision of an actual verse from "The Centuries." The authentic passage is usually translated from the French as follows: The sky will burn at forty-five degrees latitude, Fire approaches the great new city Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up When they want to have verification from the Normans. As you can see, Nostradamus made no mention of "two steel birds" in the original text, nor did he predict that "the undead will roam the earth." As to the geographical location of New York City, it is found at exactly 40 degrees, 42 minutes, 51 seconds north latitude, so, while it isn't false to say that it lies "between 40-45 degrees," it is imprecise, as well as an obvious, misleading ploy to make what Nostradamus really wrote ("The sky will burn at forty-five degrees latitude") seem applicable to the events of September 11. World War III Specimen #4, also circulating via email, is merely an elaboration of the above: Nostradamus' prediction on WW3: "In the year of the new century and nine months, From the sky will come a great King of Terror... The sky will burn at forty-five degrees. Fire approaches the great new city..." "In the city of york there will be a great collapse, 2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb third big war will begin when the big city is burning" - NOSTRADAMUS He said this will be bigger than the previous two. 2001 is the first year of the new century and this is the 9th month. New York is located at the 41st degree Latitude. Again, a very few words actually written by Nostradamus — lines drawn from two separate quatrains — have been rendered out of context and supplemented with made-up lines by person(s) unknown to make them seem relevant. The result, again, is pure bunk. [url="http://urbanlegends.about.com/cs/historical/a/nostradamus.htm"]http://urbanlegends.about.com/cs/historica...nostradamus.htm[/url]

nah i think its just a coincidence, but what i kinda believe is nostradamus (sp?) predictions. I will have to find a link but it was along the lines of two great mountains will fall, heat in the sky, the king of the new land. I cant remmember it all but it sounds way too close to be a coincidence. I also made the mistake of reading further into it and saw what he predicted for the future, it was so scary.

i remmember that day so clearly, i didnt hear about it until it was all over. It was my first day back to college after the summer break and we had nothing to do apart from sit around in the student bar all day. Both towers were attacked and came donwn the short space of time i was talking with my friends. Yeah then i found out from Kim at 5.00pm and i had a 40 minute bus ride and all i wanted to do was get home bcoz i didnt have much of an idea of what had happened. I got home and saw all the pictures on the news and i couldnt eat because it just made me feel sick and i think i was shaking for the next 3 days or so. I just feel for the victims familys today because it must be so hard on the anniversary. Whats worse is, how much closer are we to defeating terrorism? we arnt, like those poor children in Russia last week. Why were they killed, they had done nothing.

:eek4: I must have heard summertime about 10 times this year.

lol thanx 4 that. In other pointless news, i always hear 1000 kisses in my local pub, but i cant acually hear it coz its so noisy but i reqognise the base line lol. Then i tell every1 to shut up while i listen but it doesnt go down well.

wow that was a pretty good guess.

Tim if u dont post your pic soon, i will have to do some serious harassment! Trust me i can be very annoying lol, i can do it without even trying.

yes, it is onto the second season now tho, i think the first season was out about a year ago, it aint really new anymore.

yeah u can get willenium for a really low price now.

wow so u have quite a big part at the start, you are so lucky. oh i really wanna see it, thanx tho , any information is great at this stage!

cool thanx, i was actually expecting this film to be a bit crappy and i wasnt really looking forward to it, but i was laughing all the way thru the trailer. It looks surprisingly really good! and we only have to wait until febuary, we have so much Will to look forward to.

im having trouble litening to it, i downloaded it for a few minutes and it takes me to windows media but it doesnt play. It might just be me, but i cant see it.

Where was the video set? was it like a club scene?

Robert De Niro and Angelina Jolie will be in Venice tonight for what promises to be one of the most spectacular film premiers ever staged. An Audience of 6000 will watch the film on a giant inflatable screen. De Niro and Jolie will be joined by Will Smith who plays the lead in the latest picture from the dreamworks studio. Source : Sky news interactive

thanx, your kinda like a secret stalker back there lol.

ooh ooh i got a question model, was jazzy jeff at the video shoot?

wow thanx model, have u got any more info for us, i guess u dont even know when its coming out and u where in the video lol. We have no hope of knowing.

Micheal Jackson - Ben.

can i come, im good at breaking into things.

nice plug!

how did ur website do btw prince , has the award been given out yet.

yey finally some pics, u still gotta post the pics of u in a kilt tho, not the one u did b4 but 1 with ur face on too. and yes kim i would watch out i had a busy annoying day at work and i also have PMS, so its a good job im staying home tonight and not socialising. id better lock myself in my room b4 i shout at some1 for no reason.

ok im bored of waiting now and you two arnt showing any signs of posting these pictures. I won the bet fair and square and i would have posted my pic if i'd have lost and u know it. You have already got free pics of me yesterday so now its your turn. So i present to you Prince skiing in a kilt and Tim wearing a disguise in the cupboard lol.

i hope he wears underwear, he ski's with a kilt on haha!