Lerkot

I think Loco means crazy in spanish.

Well actually I think there is a need because religion is the father to a lot of the violence in the world (even though drugs and alcohol is worse in that aspect).

Yeah.. I see it as a balance thing.. tolerating why still trying to change is what I try to do, but I fail pretty often since it becomes just trying to change. Perhaps that is just who I am, a man who will try to make people believe in the same thing as myself. In that case I will definetly be a complicated love life, but thats okey since I'm not really searching for love, I just want a better world. Good luck with the wedding, Schnazz!

Yeah I think so too... there is not just positive and negative, there are things between also.

I can see someone has a good time voting on old polls..

This gotta be the hardest thing in the world.. its so hard to resist bad food. But if someone can, anybody can. Im gonna become really fat, hell yeah.

Aight time for some answers, I'll take them one by one: "you acknowledge that you know how women dress today. so why is what Will's doing BAD? if that's how they dress, then why is it bad? could you tell me that? if guys dress in baggy pants and thats how its shown on videos then why is it bad?" Its more the suspicious camera angles that shows the part of women that usually hides in the dark, and then the silly dirty dancing. I cant say I know exactly how girls USUALLY dance nowadays, but I doubt they are switching... "We have always (as a board) said that Will stays true to himself and always keeps it real. Now all of a sudden you are claiming the opposite. i don't think there's anything in Will's lyrical content that supports your statement. please give us the line in Party Starter you are referring to that could imply that Will is talking about spending time with women." "Just write ya number down right next to ya name, girl", I dont know, I have always seen that line as something I dont wanna see, but now when I think of it it might mean something else. I dont get the line even in context. Does he mean that he is going to tell his name on the phone? Will is pretty real in my opinion except the fact that I doubt he is writing very much nowadays, and something he contradicts (the right word?) himself and then explains himself ten years later. "Gangsta rap was wack" - "hi im will smith i like gangsta rap bye". "sorry, i gotta respond to this too. once again, as a board we usually say Will strives to be different. i must totally disagree with your statement. Will is not doing the same. Are there chicks in the bathing suits which appear on camera for half of the video? is holding a 40 in one hand and a gun in the other? does Will have on a chain and some wrist bling? does he have a grill in his mouth? is he exploiting women in his songs? is he cursing, is he promoting violence? is he encouraging drug use?" Nah, most of that is things Will stay away from but he is exploiting women in his videos, not on an extreme level but I've heard from many many that he is lowering his game. Ive not heard it from JJFP fans but from other people. "even if you were right in your claim that Will is doing the same with women in his videos, that still doesnt make him unoriginal or going down the path of other rappers because he isn't glorifying any of those other things." Of course he is not like the others when it comes to the other stuff. In that case I wouldnt be here. "random question: why did u decide to bring up this whole topic about Will degrading women and not keepin it real in his videos and songs a whole year after the release of his album?" Well, currently I am going to the media programme at school and one of the subjects last week was how music videos effects people (especially kids) and if we really want objectified women dancing around. I was leaning back all confident, thinking "hah, Im not watching that kind of bull****" when I suddenly thought... oh hell, its almost the same ****.. half-naked girls dancing and getting looked at, and filmed from down.. damn..". My mission was to introduce that way of thinking. I dont expect anyone to agree, just have it in mind; perhaps Will Smith makes one or two moves only for the money, even when it comes down to music videos... "There are diferences in Will's vids and trash artists vids: trash artists show women like prostitues, Will just shows girlies doin sensual moves to attract men, so they aint put like objects." Its a VERY thin line actually... sensual moves to attract men, or being a prostitute... "If it were up to you lerkot, what would u want the women in the clubs to be doing and wearing?" If I could repaint the world I would remove the clubs.. but if thats not possible, then something like... jeans and a t-shirt? This is pretty uninteresting, Im not a fashion lion. And then we got Bigted, as usual talking about something totally different. Interesting. "when you make it an atrocity (sp?) that Will has women dressed the way they are when it's completely normal, it makes me question 1) what they do in Sweden and 2) if you ever look at girls. no offense, that's how i look at it and i'm sorry for bringing that to the board's attention." 1. What girls do in Sweden? Well, about 50% are crap girls that I wouldnt touch with a stick. 25% can still be saved from the "work at Mcdonalds" future and 25% keeps their head over the water.. of course its very much from my perspective. 2. Yeah I look at girls sometimes for a second or so but I prefer talking with them.

I dont have the time to read your post right now but I just gotta comment this: I meant if black people wouldnt care to stand up and fight for their rights, it probably would look the same today. You have to fight for what you believe in.

Turntable answered the first question and this is the same, I think: forever. He's the DJ for example went 3x platinum in like 93 or something like that..

Seriously guys, YES I know that "thats how things look today", but does that mean that Will have to do the same? And some of you say, yeah, sure they show a little camera stuff from the floor but other rappers are worse. How is that important? Do you have to choose between "bad" and "worse"? ""You may not like what the women are wearing, but take a look around dude, thats what they wear these days" and "Will has girls dressed in classy yet sexually appealing outfits, because at a club scene, just like others have said, that is what they wear"" Yeah, its true that girls might look that way. But Will doesnt keep anything real obviously, in Party Starter he talks about... spending time with women though he is married and got three kids. He had three options; trying to start a bad trend, keeping it real, or starting a good trend. He choose something between bad and keeping it real and that annoys me. And yes Wes, the Jay-Z music video was worse. But as I said, do you have to chose between bad and worse? Vipa: Yeah I could do that. I could just stop caring. What a terrific place the world would be. Germany would own Europe. Black people wouldnt have any power in the USA. Will Smith would be Al Bundy, and everyone would just close their eyes for the troubles in the world. Nah, I dont want it that way, I'm going to fight everything I hate to the day I die. Edit: I just gotta fill in that I know that there are a big difference between Nazi-Germany taking over the world and Big Will making music videos that I think suck, but you see what I mean Vipa.

"certain other videos have close up shots of booty whores shaking their butts and doing other sex related moves in front of the camera and in front of the artist. Will's depiction shows nothing like that."

I have kind of controversial thoughts but thats not gonna keep me from talking. I am one of a few who can discuss without dissing the other guy as a person, unless he says **** about me first, and im gonna use that advantage: its hard to quiet a guy who only says what he thinks about different subjects, not about different people. The world has suffered extremely from people who havent been brave enough to say what they really think. But once in a while someone steps forward and talks.. and that changes the world, sometimes in a negative way and sometimes in a positive way..

Well you said some **** that im not going to accept, if you want an answer, you better learn argumenting in a better way. I mean... "- half nude ladies at the club. yes, thats how they dress Lerkot. you might be scared of that, but it's ok you're never going to get none anyways. it's a reality of clubs, so deal with i" Wtf? That is so extremely unecessarily. You are obviously not able to discuss in a normal way. Why should I even bother talking with you? "well you know what Lerkot, i know for a fact you have no idea what you're talking about because you don't watch videos by other artists that make videos today so you have nothing to compare Will's video too." Ok, you know for a fact that I dont watch other peoples music videos? I dont believe you. I do watch other peoples music videos sometimes, like Outkast, they make fantastic party music without showing whats under a girls skirt (well, The Way You Move was a little.. uhm, you know, but otherwise they keep it rather clean). Its true that Will aint exactly on the same level as 50 Cent when it comes do to showing skin but he's going the same direction. A video like Switch wasnt gonna happen ten years ago, or in 1997 for that matter.. " no, they're all in the background of the video so horny boys like you can't see them enough to beat off to them." Again man, whats wrong with you?

**** off.

Yeah Julies post was interesting... and as I said, that might be how girls are dressed in clubs nowadays.. but there's still no cameras in clubs showing whats under the skirt... Those camera angels are not "woops, that just happened to show some panties", its well-planned and with one objective: make the stupid guys watch. Wes post is not anything im going to comment. Im above that. It has happened before and it will happen again; people here view it in a different way when Will does it than when someone else does it. People keeps telling themself, "Will always does the right thing" and they have been proofed wrong a couple of times. When it comes to music, Will knows exactly how to do it. When it comes to music videos, promotion and things like that, he is obviously stuck in the eighties music business making pathetic attempts to climb on to the mainstream.. he wants to be in the spotlight, but no longer by being a step ahead of everyone else but by trying to following everyone else around.

Guess that you are the exception who confirms the rule.

Hmm its gonna be interesting to see if the 20+ people are of the same opinion, since the music channels often aim at us teenagers.. and some of us obviously buy it all..

No, there is good entertainment and bad entertainment.. this is the kind of entertainment that is bad, because people (kids, like you obviously) get the wrong picture of women...

Thanks for clearing that up. I see ya'll support the sexistic music scene, I thought you guys would be different and perhaps on a higher level but I understand I gotta fight the stupidness in todays music videos somewhere else... awww, come on, the vids show wat u sayin, but Will don says the trash 50, or many other dumb artist do, u cant say Will's actin like the others. "Vibe the vibe a second, dis is a club girl why are u arrivin naked?" -Switch Considering the videos content he might as well add the line, "its not like I care, im just wondering". so wat u expect in a Will Smith video? :hmm: since the song is a party song Something else than the other rappers does. I want outdoor stuff and if I dont get outdoor stuff I want Will to rock the mic... like the other half of Party Starter was a step forward.. overall the whole Party Starter music video was better than the Switch but still not especially good... I expect more from a guy like Will anyway, and I really hope he doesnt use Paul Hunter again.

Thanks for clearing that up. I see ya'll support the sexistic music scene, I thought you guys would be different and perhaps on a higher level but I understand I gotta fight the stupidness in todays music videos somewhere else... awww, come on, the vids show wat u sayin, but Will don says the trash 50, or many other dumb artist do, u cant say Will's actin like the others. "Vibe the vibe a second, dis is a club girl why are u arrivin naked?" -Switch Considering the videos content he might as well add the line, "its not like I care, im just wondering".

Thanks for clearing that up. I see ya'll support the sexistic music scene, I thought you guys would be different and perhaps on a higher level but I understand I gotta fight the stupidness in todays music videos somewhere else...

Its not a little bad thing. Will complains about "(Yup) truck wit rims (check) throw back jersey (check) champagne bottles (check) lot’s of models (check)" and then he does the same thing himself... to me thats a big bad thing... If it was 50 Cent or whoever else who rapped you wouldnt have liked the video.. you would just have called it for "another one of those half-naked girls videos"...

I was watching all Wills music videos today... and he seriously gotta stop making those horrible music videos. Paul Hunter made Party Starter and Switch... and none of them are really better than the crap the gangsta rappers make. Half-nude ladies, floor camera showing everyone whats under the girls skirts, sure you could say that it shows how girls are clothed at clubs.. but at clubs you dont have cameras on the floor... Will should think about what the **** he is doing because when it comes to music videos he's just like everyone else nowadays.. and thats no good.

I might put up a little Youtube library.

Seriously... we should stop write about 50 Cent...