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The news doesn't seem to shy away from that at all. ← They also don't seem to be shying away from the fact that the govenment has failed to provide adequate support for those who are still suffering. They are doing their job; addressing all sides of the issue and asking the questions that need to be asked. The media has in no way given the government a free pass on their slowness in providing aid to those in Louisiana and especially New Orlenes. Perhaps Kanye should follow the media's lead and address all sides of the story as well. ← I suppose that the coverage you get in Mass is very different the coverage I see in Indiana. Which could explain why we're on different sides on this. :) The coverage I see rarely asks any hard questions about why the response time for this group of people seems to be so much worse then the response time for other groups of people.

In regards to some of the people trapped, I'm sure you're right. I'm sure some of them thought "oh well, I'll tough it out." But man, people have an incrediblely diverse set of abilities. If ya have no car, and none of your friends have a car, I've heard that it can be kinda tough to out-run a hurricane. If you're 98 years old, never leave your house anyway, have to have your grocieries delivered, I can see why you may try to survive the storm and hope for the best. If you're just ignorant, maybe you really don't know any better... Let's say you do manage to have a means to get out of the danger area, but if you live in poverty, ya can't really afford a hotel. And if you have no friends or family outside of your area, where are you supposed to go? I doubt all, what is it, 100,000? people trapped actually had no means to escape earlier. But I'm willing to bet that there are some that actually had no choice other then to hope for the best.

The news doesn't seem to shy away from that at all.

My mistake, I wasn't clear with that statement. I was trying to say that what hasn't been significantly talked about is why it is that it just so happens that this disaster relief has been so, apparently, poor and the majority of the people who are in need of help are poor, black, and/or elderly. I'm not trying to blame the hurricane (or the flood) on the government. What I'm blaiming on the government is that relief was so pathetic. People where told to go to shelter points, some of which weren't appropriately stocked with supplies. People who managed to escape made it into other communities who are trying their best to help, but without FEMA support. That's the type of things that I'm blaming the government for.

After everythings back to normal again, I would like to see what information comes out about these "hordes." The media has a funny tendency to call two people a "horde". Perhaps it is really is a massive number of people out killing other people (as apposed to a few people killing people and massive numbers of people trying to find food and water), but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if this news hasn't been just a bit exaggerated. Sensationalism sells.

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I think it was the right time and place. So many people died in the hurricane, so many people died in the aftermath of the hurricane. The reports that I've heard is that people don't even have food or water! Babies dying! For the longest time I didn't hear anything about help actually getting there, then when I did, it was army folks trained to kill! (under the pretence that the area had turned into a hell hole and peace needed to be kept) They actually mentioned on the news how these soldiers where needed because they where highly trained at killing!!! This isn't the first hurricane to hit the US, but this seems to be the illest prepared for and recovered from though. I'm not an expert on this stuff, but I recall in Afganistan, US troops where doing air drops of food to feed people. Why aren't we getting food and water the hurricane survivors? At last count, this was the highest natural disaster fatality count since 1906. Three thousand people so far, and the government was doing NOTHING! Three thousand rich white folks died in New York not too long ago, it didn't take five days for help to arrive, more like 5 minutes. The major media wasn't talking about the fact that so many black folks, poor folks, and old folks were dying. We need to be jumping up and down screaming bloody murder over this! This is a problem that must be fixed. And, unfortunately, the way that the American's think and act is that by next week they'll have forgotten and moved on to something else. There's a reason why people say "Strike while the irons hot." So yes, people need to be screaming about this now.

I was watching the video again last night, but on a better monitor. I think once it's on TV, it'll be even more obvious... But seeing it on a better screen, it doesn't look anything like Jeff and it doesn't look as shadowy either. When I saw it on a bad monitor I was convinced that they where trying to pass him off as jeff, but now I think it's just some random DJ that I was reading too much into.

That's a good point... I listened to a little female rap then, but not much. Wasn't MC Lyte the pioneer getting things started?

I'm pretty sure that it was a single cassette. I got mine not long after it came out, probably a few months, and it was a single cassette. I don't really see how it being longer then other albums at the time being that big of a change to the industry. But I can see what you're saying about increasing accessability. Parents and Nightmare where definately huge in suburbs. I think it could be argued that they made the suburban market for rap, the one that The Chronic later took advantage of. The interesting part of He's The DJ being accessable is that even though it was suburb-friendly rap, it was also a great hip-hop album... Incredible scratches and beats by JJ, battle rhymes and insane flow by FP.

Wow, that's interesting. I thought it was an incredible video.

Wills gear is great in this video. In most other rap videos these days the bling count is insane. Will could be the wealthiest rapper to date and he's sporting t-shirts, jeans, and things like that.

I can't believe Interscope sprung for this video. It had to cost at LEAST 1 mil+. If L&F has only sold 600k copies so far, say they're maken $3 per copy, that's 1.8 mil. This video had to take up most, if not all of the profits. True, this could (and will) propel a lot of future sales and profits on L&F, but still.... seems awefully risky for a major corp.

That doesn't seem like a major change to the industry, am I missing something?

Those are some sick effects. The transition scenes are killer.

How????

At times like this I wish I was a hacker, that video must be on the site somewhere. :mrt2:

D.J. Jazzy Jeff And The Fresh Prince - I'm All That Homebase (1991) :)

Congrats!! I love that disc, that is story telling at it's best! And FP just kills it on Numero Uno.

I'll second that, man's developing some serious skills. Though, I liked his Check The Rhyme cover better, that was just straight on!

Maybe I just want rap to continue, but I'd compare it more to rock and roll. I think there's far more room for growth and diversity in rap then there is in doo-wop. Rock and roll was considered dead many times, yet it keeps getting revitalized. I think, hope, that rap is the same way.

Hey Ted, how did JJ/FP change the game? I think that Raising Hell changed the game massively by dramatically increasing raps fan base and significantly raising the bar for production value. The Chronic did the same thing as well as spawned a massive wave of gangsta rap. When I originally said these two are two of the major game changers, they REALLY changed rap. JJ/FP won the first grammy, but do you think that had as significant of an impact? How else did they change rap? Edit: Not trying to jump on the contraversy band wagon, I'm just curious as to what your rational is. :)

Maybe, I hope not though... And I kinda doubt it, all the other lyrics to the song are incredible, doesn't seem like he'd just make that one such a casual rhyme.

Yea, the entire line is effectively saying (like ya'll said) "we have more stores than poor nations have rice", basically a comment about the US's rampent consumerism in contrast to other area's of the world that are struggling to eat. But why "Buddha lazy" ? Is "Buddha lazy" a doctrine of thought? Why does that line end with the word "lazy" ?

Fugees Yea, I'm with ya, JJ/FP music is by far my favorite, but I don't really think any of their discs really changed the scene.