Schnazz

Here's the results of me playing with Hip Hop EJay, not all that hot, but a lot of fun to make! I think the third one is the best. First Second Third

I'm not a fan of Will?!? Boy, you just crossed the line! Fan for 17 years, I guess that's not that long of a time I was bumpen them while you where still sucken you mommas teat Just Rockin', Brand New Funk, and of course Nightmare on My Street I've been a JJ/FP fan damn near your entire life Since long before the days when rap was only about strife You're missteppen, you best be checken who you battle against There're seven games out there that reference Jeff and The Prince If ya want to find easter eggs, just quote a song of theirs It's paying homage to the greatest duo of all rap pairs I'm the cat that was putting in all those references To JJ/FP to ease up the games to folks preferences And don't doubt that I make efforts to help out on the forum The game Who Stole The DJ has me leading up the quorum That games gonna be hot and it'll entertain ya'll for days When it's done, it'll add even more to the JJ/FP craze And in this battle, I'm not trying to follow your lead I'm just setting you straight, my rhymes are causing your sweat to bead Cuz like the song says, Anything you can do, I can do better Just ask your girl, be it loven, writen or maken cheddar Ya think ya know how to battle now? I'm glad we could help ya out It's too late for you now, maybe you can succeed it the next bout Maybe you can educate me, I've been curious for a while Is ignorance truly bliss? Do ya find that ya frequently smile? Based on your rhymes, you apparently don't know too terribly much Your words prove overwhelmingly that your knowledge is out of touch Your lack of information, you're trying to legitimize Attacking my wisdom, it's intelligence you victimize But these words flow so strong that they could never be held back And my mind, you and Ted will never be able to jack So give up your attack, it's time to come to your senses Accept our superiority, that is the public consensus

Boogie Boys - Fly Girl

Finally, we're up against some guys I can at least respect Though that's not changen anything, your rhymes I will still dissect All right Fuqua, you're the first that I'm going to go after When I'm done, your expense will be the fuel to the crowds laughter Yea, it's been two rounds that Ill and Schnazz won just recently Just like last battle, our flow continues consistently You're saying we can get beat down by Suessian rhymes? That's fine, he could be the richest poet of modern times And the most influential rhymer of the last century I'd chase his success, not follow Suge to the penitentiary Lets compare our teams skill to your knowledge that's so cursory We could spit from the mountain top, your words belong in a nursery Ya wanna throw some pop culture quotes in the mix just for fun? I was doing that since the very first battle that I won I got my Pimp Juice flowing while you're sporten your Milk Shake Of the 5 Rules, some how you manage to have 8 ya break This College Dropout wasn't born as a Fortunate Son But I studied Mr. Wendal to become the Chosen One How about Big Teddy, who's trying to like Kurtis Blow? Your 8 Million Stories bore me with your simplistic flow You could write for years before you can get 5 Minutes of Funk If rhymes were hoops, you'd constantly be a foot short of a dunk I'll give ya credit Ted, it takes courage to face me again After that ten to one round, you musta been crushed by my win I imagine you must be getting more and more frustrated Since I keep out doing you, making you look castrated And this time it'll be tougher for you to claim the crown Cuz now I'm teamed with Ill, we're both focused on taking you down But stay strong man, you've mastered what most find to be hardest When listening to music, you constantly choose the right artist So I got faith in you man, some day you can rise to the top But that can't happen till both Schnazz and Ill retire from hip-hop

As to the reason for the expansion of gangsta hip-hop, I would suspect that it has a lot to do with economics, and an exploding market. In the early days of b-boys and what not, what did you do to make music? You went to a party or hung out with your friends, and you did your thing. The entrance fee was talent, which gave us a lot of diversity and experimentation. A lot of the music wasn't even put on vinyl (or tape), and if it was, it was usually done/sold locally. All a very lost cost endeavor. Then you had a revolution, Run DMC. At this point, a reasonable amount of money became involved, both in costs and in revenues. However, at this point, all that was known about the medium (from the record execs eyes) is basically "Hey, rap can sell." The amount of money was still minimal (compared to, say, the amount of money surrounding Wham at the same time). The result was that you had execs that didn't have a formula yet, but where willing to risk a modest amount of money. Since they're weren't any "facts of the industry" yet, and not much money was involved, the decision making process on who got signed was pushed further down the corporate ladder, often all the way down to people that where still directly involved in the "scene." Then there was another revolution, gangsta rap. Keep in mind this wasn't defined but The Chronic, but The Chronic was the culmination point. All of a sudden there was huge amounts of money involved and a formula (either good or bad, depending on if you're a fan of money or of hip hop) was available for how to make money. By having the formula and huge money as a motivator, record execs now took keen interest in hip-hop. Execs exist to make money, if they don't make money, they're done. They get into a situation where they can sign one of two un-known cats. The first one is kicken something that sounds very hard, very much Chronicesque (I just wanted to use that word). The second one is kicking some hippy-dippy schwag that sounds like it's a b-side from the 60's. They don't care if it's provocative, interesting, or even a truer representation of hip-hop. A lot of money on the line, they're taking the (hopefully) sure thing. As for the original topic, strong, political hip-hop being ignored by black population. I think that's a bit more complex. First, I'd have to address it from the American perspective, I have no idea what's going on in the more interesting parts of the world. One thing to keep in mind, hip-hop is no longer a black-only music. It is now very cross race and cross culture. Given that, at any particular concert, you expect to see a makeup that reflects the makeup of the US. The US is made up of 97.6% single race individuals, so we'll simplify the stats. The white population is 75.1% of the country and the black population is 12.3%.. So, if we take the example of Boots Riley, who claims his audience is 95% white, we're not dealing with that big of a gap in what we'd expect. Additionally, 24.9% of the black population lives in poverty, where as only 9.1% of the white population live in poverty. Concerts take money, so you expect to see more white people there as well. The ideal hip-hop sales/concert/radio market should split in the same manor that the country (and the world) as a whole splits. This dumbing down is not isolated to hip-hop either. I would argue that it was very strange that intelligent hip-hop was every successful at all. There's ample evidence of dumbing down of everything. For example, compare the viewership of NOVA (or any show on PBS) with the viewership of American Idol for example. NOVA is design to increase the knowledge and understanding of it's viewers, American Idol is design to provide some music and to mock individuals. Which correlates to KRS-ONE and which to 50 Cent? Look at the news for another example. How often do you, or anyone, watch the news and gain a truly informed position on any given issue? Compare that with how many times you catch a seven-word sound bite on an issue. Which gets more viewers, the 30 minute local news coverage of something or C-SPAN which shows the details of things as they happen? Despite some minor changes in the past 10 years, local news still claims the major viewership. I would also argue that there has been significant change since the 80's and early 90's that has also affected these sales, at least some what. The number of important black figures and history that is taught in your average classroom has changed significantly in the past 10-20 years. In the 80's you had a situation where school would give you the impression that America was built solely on the backs of white people, they're the only ones who did important things and are important. So, some kid listening to hip-hop of the time would get a very different view of the world through hip-hop. Where as today, black culture is finally getting some attention in school systems. (though many other cultures are still being ignored) So, the result is, music is no longer as significant educator that it was before. I believe that a significant issue is how Americans choose to spend their time, and with at least some justification, is work load. If I go either to school for 6 1/2 hours (or what ever it is these days) or I go to work for 8 hours, by the time I get home, I'm tired. I want to enjoy myself and unwind. If I have two choices, one involves me grabbing a cold beer and watching the Colts and the other one involves me engaging my mind in yet another activity, then, well, I'm tired, I worked hard, and I deserve to relax. That's my two cents, but I could be entirely wrong. :wink:

Nice rhymes ya'll, good luck!

Ok ya'll, Hero and I went through all the idea's ya'll posted and put together a script for the game. I'm very excited about this, if you dig text adventures at all (or can even tolerate them), you're going to love this game once it's finished. We're just about ready to get making the actual game, so lots of writing help is needed! Here's the script: Opening: Scene opens at FP's crib, nice place. Gina, his gold-digging girlfriend is chilling with him. After chatting briefly with Charlie Mack, Charlie and FP go to pick up JJ at ATOJ. Scene 1: FP and Charlie Mack arrive at ATOJ, noticing that the front door is wide open, very odd since JJ is such a private guy. Sitting out front is ScyHigh, sitting in his pimptastic ford taurus. Scy tells you that he just saw MC Hammer running away. You go inside and the place is completely trashed, stuff missing, etc. It looks like someone stole the DJ. Agent FP takes control and heads over to headquarters. Scene 2: On his way to head quarters, FP has the radio on and hears windy Williams talking some nasty stuff about JJ and FP. Towards the end of the broadcast she says "Someone should just get rid of those two once and for all..." FP arrives at headquarters and checks in with his the captain. Before he can get to his captain, a gorgeous lady crosses his path. With a few right lines, her name promptly get's added to the chictionary. You talk with the captain, who know's nothing, and you start to head out. Before you can get out the door, another girlie steps to you. After properly taking care of that situation, you head off to see Hammer. Scene 3: You arrive at the trailer park and find Hammer chillen in his crib. After poking around the place, it's evident that Jazz is nowhere to be found. Hammer acknowledges that he was at ATOJ, but he was working. Turns out that since is rather drastic fall from fame, he's had to find a new career, he sells magazines door-to-door. He never actually got to give his sales pitch to Jazz though, as he walked up, he saw Dr. Dre (or some better person to use here) loading up a van in front of ATOJ. Hammer, not wanting to get between Dre and Suge, decided it wasn't worth a sale of a subscription to Yachting Monthly to continue, he bailed. After a very emberrasing moment where some girl asked you to sign her breast, you decide to put Dre on hold and check out Wendy Williams. Scene 4: On your way to William's studio, you get a call from Lil Kim. She says that she heard about Jeff and has some information to give you. You're supposed to meet her at Ruthkris' later today. You and Jeff had a double date planned for there later today anyway, so you agree. You arrive at the studio and bust in with authority. You demand to know where JJ is. William's, looking completely freaked out, tells you that she has no idea, she's been on the air for the past four hours. Checking your watch, and noticing that no one in the entire building look as though they’d cross the road to save her life, you decide that she's not the right suspect. She tells you though, in a fit of panic, that yesterday she was interviewing "one of those white rappers" and they where talking about how they're going to finally get their career going properly, they hired some ghost writers and where going to secure some incredible beats. With your brilliant knowledge of hip-hop history, as well as who's currently in Philly, you decide it's gotta be either Vanilla Ice or Eminem. Here you can go after Eminem or Vanilla Ice first. Scene 5: You head over to Eminem's crib. Gangsta rap has been good to him, he's living large. You arrive there and Em's recording in his studio in the back. Rolling into his studio, you see the Neptunes working on some new beats with Em. With them is Brittany Spears, luckily she's just there jocken Em. Seeing that the Neptunes are Em's new source, you cut to check out Vanilla Ice. Before you can step, Brittany starts checking you hard. Noting that this ain't vegas and there's no preachers around, you do the right thing. Scene 6: You head back to the trailer park to speak with Vanilla Ice. As you wade through a group of some of the nastiest women you've ever seen, you spot Kid Rock. He tells you that Vanilla Ice is over at Sony Studios recording his new album. You catch up with the cat who was seen loading up a van in front of ATOJ, turns out that, convinced JJ was so hot because of his equipment, he was stealing JJ’s gear. You cuff him, radio in to the captain, and cut. Scene 7: You head over to Sony Studios, Tommy Mattola's stops you at the gate. Apparently you're too old to get in. With clever use of your Lost And Found gold record, you leave Tommy unconscious at the gate. Heading in you spot another exec, asking him about Jazz, he tells you that he doesn't need Jazz, "We already shelved his last album." Heading inside you spot Beyonce, as well as the rest of Destiny’s Child. Though it's Beyonce you can't pass up, you go ahead and have a few special hours with all three of them. Several bottles of Gatorade later, you go and find Vanilla. He's with G Unit, recording his new track "in the club with ice ice baby." Vanilla starts riding you to spit on a track with him. After you refuse, pointing out that bumpen Kenny G for six straight hours would be a more pleasant proposition, Vanilla starts giving you lip, the fool even swings on you. Shortly there-after Vanilla's laying in the corner, crying, holding up tickets to P Diddy's party, trying to bribe you to let him go, all the while 50's in the corner laughing hysterically. Snagging the tickets, you notice one of the lines on it... "featuring a world renowned old school DJ for your enjoyment!" That MUST be Jazzy, you head off. Scene 8: You show up to one BUMPEN party. P Diddy may not know music, but he sure knows parties. Man, EVERYONE is here! Nelly, Snoop Dog, Petey Pablo, Fat Joe, Tim Westwood, Lil' John, Marky Mark, etc... Though, you notice that Tone Loc is still outside, not able to get past the bouncers. As you wade through the dance floor, J Lo steps up to you. Trying to impress you, she starts singing in a key that can only be described as Oh-God-Awful minor. The crowd runs to the edge of the floor, including (the kid from House Party), who starts bumpen the DJ stand. You look over, seeing the old school dj, who is non-other the Biz Markie. Well, so much for that lead. As you head off the dance floor, you run into all sorts of people... Eve, who hasn't seen Jeff in a while, and she's concerned cause he was stalking her. There's a group of people you can talk to, all very interesting to mock. To get off of the floor you have to talk to Chingy, who's there with a surprisingly hot girlie. You cleverly steal his girl and head to a pleasantly abandoned room. A moment later you realize that she was actually Mike Tyson's girl, he's in the room and not happy. Moment's later you jump through a window, in your draws, in the middle of December. (how did it get to be December? it was just July! Ah well, suspension of disbelief) You glance down at your watch and realize that it's time to head to the restaurant for your double date. Though you're dressed properly for the post-dinner get together, you call up Charlie Mack to swing by with some clothes and a ride for ya. Scene 9: You roll up at Ruthkris' just in time to meet Tracy and Yvette. As you walk in, they start asking you where Jazz is, you respond that he can’t make it, but you "can still double date, me plus ya'll two." At this point they get very upset and just then Gina, your girl, walks in. She starts going off just as your Chictionary falls out your pocket, making matters even worse. Luckily Biz rolls in and he's got your back. As things blow up around you, some of your previous flirtations become involved. You slowly get things under control, and dismiss girls as needed. Just as Gina heads out uttering things that would make Eddie Murphy blush, Lil' Kim walks in. She comes in jumpen all over you, she wants you HARD! She hints that she knows what’s up with Jazz, if you'll just give her some of the good stuff, she'll share. After you mistake her for Foxy Brown, and then realize that you had the wrong skanky hoe, she get's a little upset. When you then tell her that there’s no way you’ll get with her, she get's a bit more upset. She grab's you and actually bites you! (why is there so many Mike Tyson references in this game?) You start feeling very strange, that's some seriously funky lipstick... you pass out. Scene 10: Per a confidentiality agreement between jazzyjefffreshprince.com and Schnazzy Games Inc, this portion cannot be disclosed at this time. The End! Game Elements - Chictionary. You carry this with you everywhere. As you progress through the game, if you behave properly towards the hunnies, you can score their number, which gets added to the chictionary. At the end of the game, you tally them up, creating a sub game of how many numbers can you get. Freshometer. As you move through the game, there will be several key places where you can spit a JJ/FP lyric. If you kick them at the right time, your Freshometer will go up, another sub game. For example: "you walk into the room the villain has jeff tied up and has sticks of dynamite strapped to his body" reply "boom! shake the room" and your freshometer has increased Regular updates. In between each scene, Agent FP picks up a newspaper featuring funny stories recapping what he just did. It's a different newspaper each day... "The Homebase Daily" "The Chronic Chronicle" etc... Hopefully the titles of papers will be a bit more interesting.

Gather round, gather round, just to listen to the sound Ya'll ain't been this excited since the Colts where in town This post folks be checken, a lot they are expecten The carnage of Joe and Brace got folks rubber necken Those two and their possie, getten punked more then Fozzie Braces and Joe, the modern Harriet and Ozzie Man you two are just lame, like scy, you're showing no shame Acten like Salt and Peppa, but no skill in your game You two should just go back, to your un-judged battle tract When there's judging involved, you'll learn quickly that you're wack Now Braces listen close, I'm helping you in this post Your rhymes, they keep on missing and ya had to force most Though you got one thing right, you know your rhymes just ain’t tight You know you need a "bye" to advance to the next fight Ya, you did have some flow, it was just two months ago It's a shame you didn't bring it to this little show Now it's just "Bitch" "bitch" "bitch", boy you really need to switch You're trying to add hardness that you really need to ditch Man that nonsense ain't hot, that junk really needs to stop You're dying to rap, you should be liven for hip-hop You may be thinken your slick, but that don't make you Rick All the rhymes that you spit are just maken people sick Your ego I'm harming, your attacks I'm disarming But I must switch to Joe cuz his rhymes are alarming This'll be a quick line, Ill already ripped ya fine Joe, you need some meaning and connection in your rhyme You threw out X, Hex, Sex, and claim your rhymes are complex? When you're writing, try to put your rhymes in to some context In these words that you see, with the smooth flow spit by me I write these things to help, it's hip-hop philanthropy Ya best study this well, all of these things that I tell Some hard work, next time it'll be two teams that ya quell

That's a fun beat man, I dig it

1 - Homebase 2 - He's the DJ, I'm the Rapper 3 - Code Red 4 - Lost & Found 5 - Rock the House 6 - Big Willie Style 7 - And In This Corner 8 - Born To Reign 9 - Willennium

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At 28, you'd really think I'd know better But in my fridge there's nothing but soda and chedder Cooking was always a good idea in theory But after a day of work, the kitchen seems so dreary So what's a guy to do, when his stomach starts to growl Out for steak? Fast Food? Or a diner that smells fowl? There's an obvious choice that keeps me home to chill Domino's delivery, just need a phone and a 20 dollar bill Theme: Money

Scyhigh has gotta be LOVING this. :1-say-yes:

I picked up one of those, 5 I think, a couple months ago... I like it a lot. I am totally an amature, and the stuff I make with it sounds it, but it's very easy to put something together that, while not complex, is pretty easy on the ears. My only complaint is that it doesn't have enough samples. I could import them, but I'd rather spend my time putting beats together, not importing every little thing.

Ill, that was hot, you don't need me up on your side The words you jot, that's not flow, you spit a whole tide The illest is Will, and I bring up the schnazzy game Ya'll know the drill, this time it's a Tiger we tame And that lil' bloke, who is that cat, the buckeye-boy? Ya'll are a joke, in this game you two are a toy Tiger, I'm amused, you define 'hypocritical' your grammar's confused, 'you is' is just as pitiful And a mamma joke? Boy you really need to learn how, "Yo momma's flat broke, Johns know that she has the clap now." I'm a university, droppen knowledge verse by verse Spitting diversity, flowing with our with out any curse Quiz, question two, what happens when you take the best Up against you, Scy, Jonny, and all of the rest? Ya'll know the reply, when we flow you shout it out you can't deny, Schnazz and Ill are winnen each bout

He doesn't usually do the beatbox thang in switch, does he?

It depends... Are there a lot of people in your neighborhood that have a cable modem? If there are, then the performance of the cable modem will go down.

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There was an interesting study done on the power of prayer: http://www.mindpub.com/art031.htm (this is a bit of an "alternative" site, but I've heard about it from other, more main stream sources, this one was just the quickest link I could find)

That's great Julie! Good game play items and story advancement! And randomly knocking Vanilla Ice is always fun. :) Vanilla Ice could direct FP to Cube, and he'd be a great person to start the player thinking about the wrong kidnappers. (because, really, could Vanilla Ice even ~identify~ a rapper? : ) I had another random idea, this one could be either cheesy funny or cheesy dumb, I'm not sure... What do ya'll think about having a location called "Thug Mansion" ? A mansion where all of the hard-core rappers hang out... It could have some fun possabilities... for example: It's where rappers like Nas hang out, and it has a bunch of pretenders trying to get in. It could be kinda cool, but it could turn out kinda dumb, what do ya'll think?

Yea, I'm feeling that, have him lurk in different scenes, etc... maybe have a twist at the end where he was trying to help you or some other random thing... Cool Hahahaha, yea :thumbsup2: Anyone else have some story ideas? There's still a lot of story left to put together...

I've been thinking about some some additional story points, and I'm not coming up with anything all that great... Here's a few idea's I've had: Other suspects - In trying to figure out who stole the DJ, there's other people who may have done it (to keep the player guessing, etc). Some ideas would be: Suge Knight was just released from prison and is trying to rebuild Death Row (by abducting people). P Diddy wants to throw another party and he's short on talent, so he's stealing it. Women - FP has a girlfriend, and he goes on dates. I was thinking that maybe he could luck into some information on different dates... Like Hero was saying, he, umm, interrogates Lil Kim, who may be in on the dj stealing. There needs to be some stuff to drive the story/game forward with girls. It seems like there could be a lot of really good options in this area, I'm just not thinking of them. (as well as a bunch of JJ/FP material) For example, how does the Code Red portion relate to Jazzy being stolen. (is it a random tangent? which would be kinda funny... does FP get additional information that leads him to Jazzy? etc...) Any of ya'll who want to help with the story, please jump in here and throw out some ideas!

Are you referring to the Who Stole The DJ's "I interrogate best when I'm undressed" part?

What's the matter with Kansas - How conservatives won the heart of America - Thomas Frank :peace: The Road to Reality - A complete guide to the laws of the universe - Roger Penrose Yea, I'm cool :)

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