Yeah...as i said time ago i got family in Kiel, they follow HamburgSV so i do so too. You have to admit Hamburger classified with a lucky goal against Navarra's Osasuna. I don't feel Guerrero and Lauth can do big damage. Van de Vaart is often injured. They couldn't even win against Arminia in Bundesliga. They got an easy groups tho.
And Cristgolo: GROUP E: REAL MADRID, Olympique de Lyon, Steaua de Bucarest & Dinamo de Kiev. Sorry but Lyonaiss is the only threat there, and they lost Diarra...he's in Madrid now... No offense but what have Bucarest and Kiev done in the last years in C.League?
And Group A: Barça (2 straight Liga's championships, former CL champ), Chelsea(2 straight Premiers and the best team individually) And Werder Bremer (usually runner up in Bundesliga and one of the best offensive teams), compared to this one, yeah, Madrid's groups is easy.