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The trailer is probably going to come out with American Gangster.

I just posted the IAL site and new poster in the hancock topic, and I just found out lol. How dumb do you have to be to make such a mistake, I guess I'm too exhausted from work to think straight. Btw, the new poster looks swwweeeeeeeeet. The site is also beautiful, love the techno style. I really hope the movie delivers. Shouldn't there have been a IAL trailer out by now ? Only 2 months away and all we got was a teaser like 4 months ago. Golden compass released it a couple weeks ago, Book of Secrets released it...maybe they don't want to release another trailer, and just go with the teaser. That one was mystical and caught a lot of people's attention, maybe they don't want to ruin that by showing too much.

This is what I've been talking about when I said Will needs to work more with A-list people. Not only is Mann one of the most underrated brilliant directors of this generation, Logan is also a great pick, has made quality stuff like Gladiator, Last Samurai, Star Trek nem., Avator and Sweeney Todd. Count me impressed. Michael Mann's last couple of movies haven't been of his own high quality standards and he probably must be very excited and passionate to make another brilliant masterpiece such as The Insider, Heat, last of the mohikans. Let's hope Mann brings his best work to this movie and Logan delivers a great script. I'm more excited for this then I am for IAL and HC.

Somehow I don't believe that. Will may have argued with Berg but I don't think it was that bad to the point where they would almost go at it physically etc. I remember Mann teaching will some acting moves and how much Will appreciated that. Muccini also did that to Will and I never heard Will complaining about that, neither did Muccini. In fact, Muccini praised Will for being so nice and open to suggestions. Maybe, just maybe Peter Berg crossed the line with his requests. Not every advice is good or quality. And Peter Berg ain't no great actor himself to be honest.

Talk about a reliable source

Maybe, just maybe Him and Jazzy can make a movie about their music career, that would be fun.

A lame one at that.

I wouldn't bet on it And that's pretty arrogant and rude the way they wrote that article.

How are things going so far ? Any legit info on sales ?

Anyone catch Chris Brown's over the top performance ? The only thing that saved the show. VMA was awful, worst ever except for Chris Brown's amazing performance. He just stole the show.

When I said ''Will's doing THIS more for the oscar'' I was referring to SP, not IAL or JH. You know, as much as I do, that Hancock and IAL are not oscar material, those type of sci-fi movies almost never make it to the oscars, so it's pointless to relate to this. Apples and Oranges. The general public, the people who go see Will's movies don't view any of Will's movies as flops. Critics however would disagree with you. You seem to view this situation from one side of the story, the general publics' side. With movies there are 2 sides to please, the general public and the critics. One brings you money, the other respect. We always blame the critics for being cynical (beeep) but they aren't completely wrong you know. I wouldn't compare Denzel to Will but if you must insist, box-office wise Will's the king, but almost all of Denzel's movies have high ratings from critics, something Will almost never has, except for MIB and Enemy of the state. You know with who he worked on Enemy of the state right ? That movie which Tony Scott directed was gold, pure brilliance. Yes I agree with you that working with A-list directors doesn't guarantee success, I don't think I ever stated anything where I said it would, but anyway working with A-list directors can only be a good thing. When you compare Will's B-list directors so to say, to his A-list directors, you'll see the gap I'm trying to refer to. Box-office wise it's not so different, but again Will's charm brings in money regardless how the movie sucks, and WWW is a good example of that.Plus working with A-list directors can also help Will's acting become even THAT MUCH better. There are so many things that A-list directors can bring to a movie compared to B-list directors. There's a reason why the one's called A-list and the other B-list. Do you think only serious movies (oscar stuff) can make it in the top 200 (or 500, whatever) best movies ever ? That's not really a great way to look at it. Raiders of the lost ark, Star wars, LOTR, Indiana Jones series, Dr. Strangelove, Fight Club, Matrix, Alien, Forrest Gump, Bourne Ultimatum, Terminator....great examples that all genres can make it in the TOP 200. Since Will made movies in almost all genres, it makes you wonder. Those movies have been mediocre. You consider them good, I consider them great, but the critics would disagree. Ali failed, box-office was horrible. BB2 got ripped by critics, I robot, Shark Tale, Hitch and even POH were all considered 60% movies, ratings were mediocre, not so bad, but not so good either. The thing I very much agree with you is that A-list directors doesn't necessarily make them the best for a given project, I can only say amen to that. That's the truth. But, regardless, A-list directors have a bigger, much bigger chance to make any given project so much better. Hitch was great, and many loved it due to Wills' and Kevin James' chemistry. Directing was seriously mediocre, Imagine Judd Apatow directing it. That movie could have went down as one of the greatest romantic comedies ever with that extra touch. That's the problem with Will's latest set of movies, you feel like there's so much more room for development. And that's not Will's fault per se, but the team behind the movie.Muccini, did the best he could given his talent and experience. Nobody discredits him, especially not me. Will's at least 15 years younger than Denzel, Denzel made approximately 45 movies. Will already has 26 movies on his name. So I wouldn't quite say the gap is that big between them. The difference is just in their act of interest. One does mostly sci-fi actions the other likes to do drama/thrillers more than anything.I don't know why the discussion suddenly went into ''Will will be there in time when he takes on more serious roles''....If I'm not mistaken the discussion about SP wasn't about Will's acting.He's a fine actor, I regard him as one of the best. Nobody can take on so many diverse roles and succeed in every one of them.I just wish he utilised those talents more with quality around him. Not always, it doesn't have to be always. He'll always work with Muccini, Tennant... those B-list directors. But I'd like him to work with A-list directors every now and then.That's all. It's just a wish from me, as a fan, to see Will work with the likes of Judd Apatow, Tony Scott, Paul Greengrass, Christoper Nolan.It's like letting Jordan or Kobe play under doug collins or Del Harris. You wonder how it would have been if they played under...let's say Phil Jackson. I rest my case.

I'm buying this just so 50'll eat his words, imagine K outselling fitty, that would make me a happy camper seeing 50 get owned like that.

I loved WWW when most people didn't. I love whatever Will does, regardless the outcome. But it's not about what I want, it's about the concept. I'm pretty sure Will is doing this more for the oscars than he is doing it to become a better all around actor. I love Will but the man has all the talent in the world to receive an oscar, and he deserves it too. BUT, when you look at Will's movies, I love all of 'em, but you can't tell me one movie that could go in the top 200 movies ever.Again, i'm not talking about Will's performance, but the movies he's been in. Maybe MIB is considered unique and fits in that category of best ever movies, but it sure isn't a lot. And when Will is regarded as the most bankable actor in Hollywood, you wonder why he doesn't work with the best of the best that often. He's worked with the best around the 90's and in 2001, but after that he's worked with medicore directors, producers. I'd love for once that he works with the likes of Ridley Scott, Paul Greengrass, Christopher Nolan.My problem isn't with Will's acting, it's with the team he's working with in the past couple years, the quality level hasn't been very high when you compare it to the ID4, Enemy of the State, MIB movies. Again, I'll be there opening day and I'll buy his DVD's regardless of how dissapointing it may be, but I'd love for once that he starts working with those A list directors, producers in the future, he hasn't worked with them much or at all for the past years. Look at Denzel, look at the upcoming movie, American Gangster. I just want him to star in those movies with those directors. That's all.

I don't think they'll go with a high profile female co-star.

I disagree, it was not Will's movies that were oscar material, it was his own performance. The chances of this movie getting a best pic nomination are very slim. That's the thing, Will has been nominated TWICE, and never won. Yes the competition has been strong, but the main reason Will didn't win an oscar (besides the political racism at the oscars) is because the quality of the movie couldn't back up his performance.People that get Oscars usually have a great movie. POH was not great, it was decent, good. Oscar material ? Hardly. Of course, time will tell. Let's hope he made the right decision.

Wow, the guy that's going to do the screenplay Grant Nieporte, look at his resume: # "8 Simple Rules... for Dating My Teenage Daughter" (2 episodes, 2004-2005) ... aka 8 Simple Rules (USA: new title) - The After Party (2005) TV Episode (writer) - Mother's Day (2004) TV Episode (writer) # "Sabrina, the Teenage Witch" (1 episode, 2001) ... aka Sabrina (USA: promotional abbreviation) ... aka Sabrina Goes to College (USA: promotional title) - Sabrina's Got Spirit (2001) TV Episode (writer) And that's all he did ! And then you wonder why Will's drama movies aren't that highly regarded, or oscar material. I was dissapointed earlier but right now I'm pretty depressed. Will always agrees that his movies need that extra touch, that art concept behind it. Well if he really wants it he needs to work with the best of the best in the business. That should be his 1st goal. Will tries to hard to win an oscar with stuff like this.At least the other movie was promising, the one where he's a chess teacher. This one has all the ingredients to fail.

Not too happy about it I thought a comedy would be appropriate around that time. Nice that Will can handle drama's but 2 (4) in 2 years is a bit too much, and hancock is also a bit of a drama, and even I Am Legend. Plus POH was a good movie, but that's mainly because of the acting of the smiths. I wasn't really too happy with the team behind it. And knowing the same team behind that will make SP is not really encouraging.

I personally voted for ''ICE ICE BABY''

Clive Howl ??? No word on IMDB about it, I thought it was timeshare ?

Thanks Ale, nice read.

The chances of this movie becoming a ''WWW'' for will are zero. Berg & Mann are handling this movie, and no way are they making anything corny.

Pathetic kid

Thanks a lot R, almost wet my pants lol. Charlize looks incredibly hot, hope to see more pics of the 2.

TD summed it up perfectly. Though it's sad to read ignant people like those talk about stuff they don't really know, pretty depressing.

Ok, I dislike the guy. Don't know why but he just seems so ''spoiled'' to me. Would he be where he is today, without will smith ? Who is producing this ? Overbrook. Sure it's a decent song, catchy, not bad. But not my cup of tea tbh, same stuff we get nowadays, commercial rap. And I don't think he's that talented, if he was, he wouldn't need the help of will smith.