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That's right "MIB 3" is the perfect JJFP+ LL combination waiting to happen, LL should do something in "MIB 3" like Biz Markie did in "MIB 2" and then they make the bangin' soundtrack and do performances together, now's the time to make it happen, maybe we should all post this idea on Jazzy's facebook.....

inuries are killing all the great players for real, yao and mcgrady just couldn't take it to the next level like they should've, grant hill is inspiration for us all the way he's fought back from his injuries, durability is the key in sports, it's about who could stay healthy the longest, that's why there should be more credit for guys like robert parish, john salley, and kevin willis who played all those years without getting injured much, they showed you could play in your 40's close to 50 years old if you're healthy, you need to have good training as well as skills, people don't talk much about james edwards either who was a 43 year old backup center on the '96 bulls team that won 72 games but he was a good player too that played almost 20 years, he played in the pre-internet era on the most part that's why people don't know much about him, he's also played on the pistons bad boy teams in the '80s, he's a tough physical player like charles oakley who didn't score a lot but he'd do all the dirty work to win games, a good team player, i wonder what happened to him now??! He ain't an assistant coach or anything in the nba right now i don't think after he retired after that season, maybe he turned into agent j in real life 'cause i haven't heard about him since he played, lol, funny that's actually the name of will in mib before he became agent j, now greg oden may never step on the court again either it seems like which is a shame 'cause i thought he was gonna be the next shaq when i saw him at ohio state and he seems like a cool guy.... Btw, I just checked out james edwards bio at hoopedia and it don't mention anything about where he's been since he's retired from playing in '96, maybe he really is agent j since they did find aliens recently in california, but anyway his stats ain't bad at all, 14,000+ points, 6,000+ rebounds in 19 NBA Seasons is very good,players like him and Rod Strickland didn't make all star games since there was so many legends out at once at the time, sorta like how KRS and Public Enemy never won Grammies with so many legends out at once: http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=James_Edwards

jason kidd's still doing his thing on the mavs, he's damn near 40 by now

a jjfp/ll cool j album would make more sense than most of the other collab albums coming out, they could make great songs about anything and pull them off with their versatility for one thing, it'd at least be on the level of the nas/damien marley album which is my favorite album this year, on the most part i like the guests that you mentioned, but there just one producer that i won't mention since i mentioned him enough should have no part here, i want somebody like the producer of thriller quincy jones to make music, this next album has to be big, if it was 5 years ago i could take will working with anybody but since he hasn't done anything since then i wanna see him go all the way in and only rock with the best, don't need no douche bag tantrums to ruin the albums.... i see ll cool j's doing his thing right now on ncis:la so i think it'd even be good if he made an appearance on bad boys 3 and they did the soundtrack for it, if it's in the hands of the legendary artists instead of the pop rappers like puffy then it'll become classic, these guys are the kings of entertainment, it's about time that the world recognises that, they gotta do something to reach for the sky, if this was sports they'd tore their knees and have to retire at 42 years old that they are now, jazzy's 45 but he's still the top dj, music has no age limit so their best days are not behind them either, bring back the '92 dream team of hip hop....

it usually ain't my cup of tea either, personally i'd settle for a mixtape for credibility among the 'heads' but logically thinking with the way their music got slept on for the most part in the last decade they need to do something different, they need to take a more hands on approach here, they don't need Columbia/Interscope/Jive/Def Jam to promote it either they're big enough names where they could promote it themselves with their own budget together.... Think about it man, if they did music + movie it'd be epic and would reach a higher demographic of people who don't normally listen to rap, it'd touch people from 8-80 like i said, something of a bigger scale needs to be done at this point with the state of hip hop being the way it is with nobody putting out anything groundbreaking and innovative anymore, everybody knows that they're talented enough to do it so I don't have a problem, people don't buy music as much as they used to so something needs to be done to reach the audience, more people watch movies and go on youtube than buy albums in 2010 so they gotta deliver what the people want, they could use all their god-given talent on a project, a work of art that the world will appreciate, they deserve to put out an album that should go platinum in the first week sales and go diamond, not sell only 30,000 in the first week and go gold, once again I emphasise that something needs to be done, hip hop's at a "code red" state....

This album is by far my favorite r&b album this year, listening to this album brought back memories of when I first listened to him back in '96, this guy never ages one bit, I hope he sings until he's 100, "It's A Shame" has become an anthem for me thinking about all the relationships that I had that didn't work out, it's like "Why Me? 2010", he shoulda did a remix with LL Cool J doing a verse, that'd been even more classic ish, here's a song I found on youtube that didn't make the album, "Going At It" it was his original single for the album released in March....

In my heart I know that there's a great chance for real hip hop to sell again 'cause it's no fluke that the 2 greatest mcs Fresh Prince and LL Cool J have sold over 50 million albums combined with a boat load of awards, TV sitcoms, and box office hits, with fans from 8-80, I know kids in my family that like them both and my papa's 76 years old and he don't like rap but he digs their music: So with no further due, Big Ted's(if you read this Jazzy Jeff let me be the A&R/hype man of the project, I'll take the intern role just so I could learn from all the greats) concept to bring Will "Fresh Prince" Smith and the GOAT LL Cool J back to the top of the music industry and entertainment world, the blueprint to create the "thriller" of hip hop: Step 1: Get together the right production team of their careers to create their musical background: Marley Marl, Jazzy Jeff, Rick Rubin, Teddy Riley, and Trackmasters Step 2: Bring back the turntable conept of hip hop with Jazzy Jeff and Cut Creator on their tour Step 3: Turn this music that's created into a double album soundtrack to a film that they both co-star in, it could be a "Pursuit Of Happiness/Last Holiday" type of film with a deep concept for some "Tell My Why/Mr. President" material for the soundtrack and the film to win Oscars and Grammy awards in 2012, btw no wack commercial rappers/auto-tune singers are allowed to appear on the album, few guest appearances as possible unless it's a Chuck D, Heavy D, Kool Moe Dee, or KRS caliber type of mc Boyz II Men, T-Boz, Toni Braxton, and Keith Sweat doing hooks, the real fans want to hear more from the GOATs of hip hop than anybody else.... Step 4: Release a video for every song on youtube and put it out as a bonus DVD when the CDs are released to stores Step 5: Massive world tour, this is something us fans been waiting for, have each show in big sports arenas, they perform all their new hits and classics during a 2-hour set, then release the footage on DVD

50's inconsistant but you can't say he don't got a good ear for beats, something I wish my favorite mcs had, that's why a lot of the best mcs ain't selling much right now

obviously because willow's the daughter of the fresh prince and the lovely jada she's getting more attention, which is a good and bad thing for many reasons, at 9 years old she still has a lot of growing to do and i don't mind her making songs for fun, when i was 9 years old was when i would sing karaoke with my friends and when i look at back at my early raps at 15 years old i laugh, i'm still trying to figure out things at 25 years old and since I'm not related to nobody famous i probably won't ever go platinum either and i'll have to work regular jobs for most of my life, that's just a reflection of society, it's just like obama's kids will have a better chance of being future presidents than most of us, even the ones who're more qualified, it's just the breaks.... personally i didn't even know that this many people were still posting on this board until i went through this thread, when i make a post about a music legend like keith sweat putting out new music or even kel spencer putting out some real hip hop stuff it don't get much attention, there's still good artists out there but people pay too much attention to gimmicks and i really tried hard to hold back from saying this 'cause i've been on the sidelines looking at this thread in between but this is nothing but a gimmick, i know a gimmick when i see one, i wish willow all the best for her future but being in the entertainment industry that chews and spits out careers might not be the best for her, I just pray that "Whip My Hair" won't be looked at as the "Macarena" of 2010 15 years from now, but i'll probably be still working 9-5 then so really who am i to talk right, some things in life just ain't the way they should be...

Patrick still got it! LOL

most of the old-school players have been better conditioned then a lot of the players these days, you have 20-25 year old players these days who don't know how to stay in shape, for instance most of the time with the knicks until like around '97-98 patrick ewing would play all 82 games in a season, these days andrew bynum only plays around 40 games a season and he's 2 years younger than i am, he's only 23 years old, at 44 years old in the '96-97 season robert parish played in 43 games where most of the time he missed was 'cause the bulls had a deep bench not 'cause he was injured, he'd played close to 82 games if he played on a team like the clippers that year, it must be that these young players eat too much at burger king, robert parish and john salley are vegans, these young guys ain't durable enough, it's just like the young rappers these days can't match ll cool j's energy at 42 years old, they probably take too much drugs while ll lives a clean life, it's all about taking care of your body, it's the old school mentality that all the greats have in common....

well patrick ewing jr.'s in the d-league, he's obviously not as talented as his dad, very few are, but he might turn out to be a decent backup player, maybe he and his dad should play one-on-one to see who could be an nba backup center at this point, just like if jordan's kids tryout for the bobcats one day, lol, just 'cause somebody younger doesn't mean they're better, i mean look at k-smith, he'll never be as talented as fresh prince on the mic, i heard walt frasier, the knicks legend from the '70s say that skills wise he thinks he could still shoot the ball better at 60 years old then a lot of players can but he can't run anymore, music is different than sports you can't break a hip ripping a rhyme that's why ll cool j will probably still rap at 70 years old like james brown still sung until he died, you could have the mentality to make a good song forever but you can't have the mentality to score 20 points and grab 10 rebounds in 40 minutes a game once your stamina lowers as you age....

i was thinking that the magic needed to do something since they've been an average team as of late and the bulls and knicks have improved with their young players, vince carter is washed up at this point, next year he'll probably be playing overseas like allen iverson and stephon marbury, playing in europe is like the new nba retirement home, i think my bulls need to look after another big man since noah went down for 8-10 weeks since they're now forced to play 38-year old kurt thomas, but then again maybe kurt could find a fountain of youth like dikembe mutombo did for the rockets when yao ming went down with his injuries over the past few years, but then again maybe they could get one of the great big men like mutombo or pj brown to come out of retirement, they could at least get a 10-day contract, i bet even 48 year old kevin willis could play better for 10 minutes a game then a lot of the backup centers these days, he did play overseas a couple years ago himself too so he's probablyu still in good shape... like hip hop most of my favorites of the nba were around the late-80s-mid 90s so they always got a special place in my heart, just like i feel if one of the bulls guards go down with an injury that scottie pippen should come in to play guard, even penny hardaway should come back, grant hill's still around so why not him too, allan houston could teach the knicks guards how to be better shooters, even patrick ewing could be a good backup for dwight howard, that might be the magic need to get over the hump....

dmx is another wasted talent, he's like the bobby brown of rap

things in music in general started to get more watered down when record labels started promoting all this garbage out there, but in recent years with the internet a lot of the garbage isn't selling as much as it used to, i guess it's gonna take time, eminem and kanye having success i guess a step towards the right direction but more work needs to be done in getting other good stuff the proper promotion, the way that record labels have treated the great rappers like LL Cool J, Lupe Fiasco, abd the Clipse is disgusting... Bottomline, if LL Cool J had the type of promotion that Lil' Wayne has had over the past few years then he'd sell at least twice as much as Lil' Wayne has sold 'cause the truth is that LL been there and done that, none of Lil' Wayne's albums sold as much as "Mr. Smith", none of Kanye's albums have sold as much as Will's "Big Willie Style" either, good stuff can sell, i believe if somebody made a groundbreaking album that it could sell twice as much as what eminem sold too if it had the type of promotion 'cause eminem did release a good album but let's be real it's not an all time classic, it's just like when outkast put out that creative double album and outsold 50 Cent/Ja Rule/Eminem/everything out in the early 2000s to become the greatest selling hip hop album, good music will sell if it's promoted, people think hip hop's dead 'cause they see the crap that the record labels promote and don't know that there's good music underneath the surface....

well there's more to hip hop than just eminem and kanye west, people should give other good rappers a chance too, i could go on and on about how many good albums/mixtapes are out there, you got a point about how it's better in that perspective that eminem and kanye are outselling nicki minaj and soulja boy but i want it to be like the golden era again when many good rappers go platinum and multiplatinum, the best time when I was listening to hip hop during middle school years to me and I could look on the charts between '96-98 and see LL Cool J/Fugees/Fresh Prince/DMX/Nas/Jay-Z/Foxy Brown/Outkast/ Rakim/even the Public Enemy "He Got Game" soundtrack and KRS' "I Got Next" went platinum, then there was all that great r&b from Keith Sweat/Joe /Brian Mcknight/Boyz II Men/Blackstreet/Dru Hill/Toni Braxton /Babyface/702/Montell Jordan/Mariah/Mya/Brandy/Monica/even En Vogue and New Edition had success... I want those days back again and I want MTV to play all the dope videos again, they turned into emptv.... i'm a big michael jackson fan but in reality not many people wanted to listen to him right before he died and now they all love him again, fans are fickle....

I ordered this CD online a couple days ago at CDUniverse.com along with the new R.Kelly and Nelly albums, they haven't arrived yet so that's why I haven't said anything yet... Btw, 50's recent stuff is not that bad anymore either, I think he's improved his game just like Eminem has but neither are my favorites but among the rappers that ain't my favorites I rather listen to them than Lil' Wayne and Soulja Boy....

i'm with lambert, it's dilussional to say that eminem's the only good rapper in hip hop right now just cause he's the only one to go multiplatinum, that's the mentality of what's wrong these days, people focus on record sales more than good music, for instance i don't really give a damn that ll's "Exit 13" didn't sell much, i still think that he's a better rapper these days than eminem will ever be but with the state of the industry they'll probably put eminem in the hall of fame before ll, the truth is that i don't like eminem any better just 'cause his album sold 3X platinum, there's a bunch of albums that didn't even go gold over the past few years that're better, eminem will never be one of my favorites just 'cause he's the highest selling rapper ever

I don't consider Ja one of my favorites but I always respected that he stays in his lane with the music he makes, he don't try to be somebody he's not unlike a lot of the fake rappers out there, and he comes off more mature in his interviews as well

I don't know if anybody pays attention to this thread anymore but I want to share a song when I need to feel uplifted, R. Kelly's whole "U Saved Me" CD is brilliant but "When I Think About You" is a personal favorite:

Musically and lyrically nothing Dr. Dre has done since 2000 has shown me that he could do it on the level as he did it with "The Chronic" album, that song sounds a lot like something 50 Cent would do, he knows that most people who bought "The Chronic" album ain't checking for him anymore so he's going after the teenybopper fanbase....

a lot of the songs on these mixtapes should be getting airplay but like i said it's the state of the game, it's just like kel should be putting out platinum albums instead of only mixtapes

vh1 did a great job with hip hop honors when it started but the past couple years been garbage, at this rate they'll honor lil' wayne before jjfp

Will is the greatest entertainer in the world though isn't he? 30 million albums sold and $20 million per film speak for themselves, real recognises real, Joe Budden's one of the real mcs that came out in the last 10 years....

I was posting that B.O.B. mixtape on the what are you listening to thread, there's some great mixtapes out there, I like most mixtapes better than albums, for instance those 2 Game mixtapes released this year sound like he coulda put out as official joints, it's the state of the game...