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Justin's album is cool but it ain't the only good album out there, I like some popular stuff, I wouldn't listen to LL or FP if I didn't like popular stuff, really I think more parody in the music industry is necessary, when one album's selling millions and another great album sells nothing man that sucks, btw allhiphop.com gave Jay-Z' album 3 1/2 stars just like LL's album, they gave Snoop 4 stars, and Game's 4 stars, so it ain't like I'm the only one feeling that Jay-Z' is overhyped, barely above average like LL's album but not great, both could do better, a battle is what they need to motivate themselves it seems, really Jay-Z' album sales will dip fast since it ain't critically aclaimed, too many strong rap albums out, I don't see it having much legs

Props man, hit or not, it's genious, I'm really hyped for this album

Yeah this is his best album in longgg time, really deserves to be topping the charts, best gangsta rap album since Ice Cube's, I like Game's though too, it's cool but the way I see it the veterans reign still: Ice Cube>>>Snoop>>>Game All of those albums are overhyped, I like Janet's album better than Beyonce's, Robin Thicke's better than Justin's, and a ****load of rap albums better than Jay-Z', I'm a big LL fan and I wouldn't put his in the top 10 rap albums of the year either, it's just that the game's so strong more than anything, great time to be a rap fan again

Lol, LL's streak of platinum albums is still alive, 12 in a row!!! He basically did it on his own 'cause he toured basically most of the year, the hard work pays off, and to think that he's working on a new show, new movies, new book, clothing line, another album and a battle with Jay-Z, he's the hardest working man in show buisiness right now :2thumbs: :1-say-yes:

I think this album already shipped gold and he got his plaque already but it's great to know that there's still word of mouth for this, out of all the great albums I heard this year I think this is the best one, I said it's the best since "Lost and Found" and I still feel that way, the true comeback of the year, LL needs to have an aggressive album like this next year, I re-bought Ice Cube's album recently on ebay to get the DVD, it's incredible, must have for all fans of real hip-hop

I think either Lyor Cohen or Russell Simmons did, they also gave LL his masters though so he makes much more on each album being sold and each time somebody samples him, LL's an artist and he knows that he don't want to jeopardise other artists careers' that's why he didn't take the position, he's a team player, I'm damn sure he was offered the position, maybe if he actually retired from rap for good he'd take it but he still wants to be an artist, he don't want to be like "the big time rap star LL Cool J's rap label", Jay-Z' using the position to hog all the glory the way I see it, especially jumping all these mixtapes and bull**** showing that he wasn't retired, even in his songs he goes "I'm the CEO of Def Jam" and commercials saying "CEO of hip-hop", more of that being promoted than let's say Method Man and The Roots albums for instance, what LL said is the damn truth "Jay-Z is only good at promoting Jay-Z", he won't promote music on a high level 'cause he's scared it'll take away from his legacy

Listen to songs like "Not Your Average Joe", "John Blaze", "Benedicion Mami", "My Fo' Fo", "Make It Rain", "Breathe and Stop", "All I Need", "Get The Hell On With That", "Damn", and "My Lifestyle" that he released after "Jealous Ones Envy" and tell me that Fat Joe can't rap at a high level like Jay-Z, it's a joke that you make it look like only Jay-Z' a great rapper, that's really what's ruining hip-hop, Jay-Z ain't the one man hip-hop show, other greats have to shine too, there's a lot of great rappers on Def Jam that need to promoted and all labels for that matter which ain't his fault that's the industry's fault, but he's gonna catch the heat 'cause not only he's an artist, he's supposed to be the president of the greatest rap label ever, he needs to work what he pays for, he can't only rap and not promote anybody on the label, and besides that as an artist you figure he'd try to help good music sell and protect the legacy of Def Jam, he's not being paid for rapping and ignore promoting the quality artists, he looking no different than the suit and ties that're ruining the industry by shoving garbage down our throats, he needs to show more heart and integrity if he respects the legacy of Russell Simmons and Def Jam, btw not only do KRS and LL got love for Fat Joe, I mean listen to the songs that they did with Fat Joe and tell me that he's not a great rapper, they know firsthand 'cause they worked with him

Well Jay-Z hasn't dropped anything close to Reasonable Doubt either, he's only hyped up 'cause he got popular songs on the radio, it's like Jigga and Em could throw up on records and sell a million 'cause of how famous they are, I mean just look how much "Kingdom Come" and "Encore" have sold, they're nowhere near as good as "Slim Shady LP" and "Reasonable Doubt" that sold less, sales don't mean ****, I love "L&F" much better than "Big Willie Style"

This is pure entertainment, thank god for a real hip-hop battle for a change, this'll be like Jordan in his prime verses Kobe in his prime, both are sure to light up the scoreboard here, top notch competition, I just can't wait really, this is what the game needs, people love the aggressive flows

I ain't ruining hip-hop one bit, if I don't feel Jay-Z songs as much as Fat Joe, Game, FP, LL, DMX, etc. then I just can't put him above all of them, Fat Joe is an ill spitting mc, so what he don't have the commercial success that Jay-Z has, does that mean that he's less talented? KRS and Rakim are on the same level as LL Cool J and FP even though they don't sell the same amount of records, so Nas and Fat Joe are on the same level as Jay-Z and Eminem even though they don't sell the same amount, when Biggie was alive he said that he enjoyed Fat Joe's "Jealous Ones Envy" record, KRS-ONE and LL got love for Fat Joe too

There's no way Jay-Z could defeat LL, LL been in the rap game longer than most of us here been born, he knows what he's doing, he got nothing to lose here, LL's gonna at least hold his own 'cause when he's pissed he gets fired up, he just can't seem to live without the competition, Jay-Z better know what he's doing if he responds, he should be begging LL not to diss him, LL's a big name artist too, even if the battle don't work out, he could have a top playing show on CBS that he's working on and he got a big film deal that he's signed to, his career's set already, it's just something to boost his competitive juices, just sit back and enjoy the battle, 2 big time successful rap artists going at it is gonna be top notch entertainment for the masses, LL's album should at least go platinum like "Lost and Found" alone just the thought of it happening, it's just like when Will said he had something for Eminem

Well Illseed on allhiphop.com now says LL's planning to make some disses towards Jay-Z, hell yeah baby, I can't wait, it's time for everyone to see who the real 23 of rap is, time for LL to get another championship ring to his legacy, I wish Will had some of LL's fire to diss somebody like this 'cause he coulda buried Eminem if he tried harder, all those rich big shots like Eminem do is pay their way on the radio but FP and LL sell records off of skills alone! http://www.allhiphop.com/rumors/?ID=1154 LL COOL J TO DISS JAY-Z? Here we are talking two of the greatest battle rappers ever. LL Cool J has taken out all comers, from Canibus to Kool Moe Dee.... Then there is Jay-Z, who dueled with Nas and dropped of more MC's than Aftermath. Rumor has it LL is going to take it to Jay-Z in a rap battle. LL told MTV, "How am I gonna re-sign with competition? I'm not an idiot. I can't depend on that man to promote my record while he's somewhere writing rhymes. I'm LL Cool J. I ain't doing that, B." As you know, 50 Cent and LL have become very good buds. Now, there is a fake Jay-Z diss from 50 Cent that had me confused. But there is a new 50 Cent album in the 07 plan and I heard there are coarse words for Jay-Z coming from LL.

Snoop needs to kick his drug habit

This'll be Jay-Z' final #1 album if LL decides to knock him out, he probably bought most of those albums himself 'cause I don't see what all the hype's about, Game, Snoop, and Fat Joe all put out better albums than him this month, probably even the doctored 2Pac album is better than his album, he shouldn't have dropped DMX either 'cause he put out a great record too, record sales don't mean ****, if that were the case Eminem and Vanilla Ice are the GOAT right? Watch his sales drop once he stops paying for his TV appearances, it's time to promote the other artists on there like LL, Method Man, Roots, and Lady Soverign, and if he don't promote Nas' record he could get ethered for good as well :nhawong: On another note I think Game's song was #3 on TRL yesterday so he'll be fine, Jay-Z' song didn't even make the countdown that's how much the hype's dying down already, it's gonna be a big fall off for his sales, lol, Fat Joe's album sales will probably increase dramatically since the next single is "War" with Game, that's probably one of the better tracks on there...

Daron Jones Leaves 112, Group Future In Jeopardy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Atlanta-based R&B quartet 112 is now short one member, due to Daron Jones'recent departure from the group. The foursome have released five albums since their discovery by Sean "Diddy" Combs outside of Atlanta's popular night club 112, in 1995. MTV.com has said that the future of the group is now in jeopardy and calls to the group's label, Def Soul, weren't returned at press time. Jones, who is also the group's in-house producer, has been keeping busy by producing hits for Keyshia Cole, Usher, Kelly Price, and Sammie. Prior to the announcement of Jones'departure, group member Slim explained that the foursome doesn't always agree on everything. He said: "You know, creatively, we've changed in a lot of ways, and a lot of times we get together and don't agree and want to say different things but I mean the consensus is to just vote on it and just roll. For the most part, the dynamic of the group in terms of the way we get along is pretty much the same." Slim added: "We grew up together -- grew up in the same neighborhood. We went to the same schools and, like, for the most part, we really respect each other even though we're four individuals. I mean, but when we come together, we're definitely a group, and we pretty much know that we need each other. It's not about the money because we love music. We're true musicians and, you know, we could be singing in front of 50,000 people or we can be singing on the corner, but as long as one person is happy and we got our point across, we're happy." 112's last release was 2005's Pleasure and Pain. The project continued a downward sales spiral for the group which began with 2003's Hot & Wet. The group's 1996 self-titled debut, 1998's Room 112, and 2001's Part III, were all certified double platinum for sales of two million copies each.

Looking forward to this, I'm gonna make sure I get my VCR set, gonna get that soundtrack too

Yeah and Bow Wow is irrelevant at this point, he destroyed his career by dissing Will, he says he bought some Mcdonald's in an interview but he probably means that he works at Mcdonald's now :nhawong:

He said he's still working on it in a recent interview for the next album, he wants to make sure he does it proper, 14 albums worth of material to cover, EDIT: Damn I can't believe I forgot to watch the premiere of "Hip-Hop Is Dead" video tonight on BET at 8PMEST, I really wanted to see it too, did anybody here watch tonight?

Speaking of Chuck D I made a post about this on the Enemy board and he responded back: http://www.publicenemy.com/pb/viewtopic.php?p=172302#172302 "LL is Wilt Chamberlain....Jay is Jordan...embodiment..of everyone up to his point.."-Chuck D: Then I just replied and made a whole list of what each rapper would be if they're NBA players, that's fun to do, lol: LL=Jordan Slick Rick=Ewing Chuck D= Barkley Flava Flav=Dennis Rodman(weird as hell but cool at the same time, lol) EPMD=Pippen and Payton Redman=Shawn Kemp Russell Simmons=Phil Jackson JJFP=Stockton and Malone Queen Latifah=Cynthia Cooper Roxanne Chante=Nancy Lieberman MC Lyte=Lisa Leslie KRS= Bill Russell(great albums/ championship rings about the same, most consistant careers) Nas=Shaq Jay-Z=Kobe Run-Dmc and Kurtis Blow=Elgin Baylor and Wilt Chamberlain Dr. Dre=Magic Johnson 50 Cent=Ron Artest(both annoy the hell out of me)

You can't read everything you read in the tabloids, that's personally why I'd never want to be famous 'cause you get all these people gossiping things about your life that ain't true, that'd annoy the crap out of me

That's cool that you're getting involved in marketing and promotion on a record label, that's probably something that I'd probably consider doing, I enjoy writing songs and freestyling but I'd probably rather work more behind the scenes than being an artist if I ever make the music buisiness after basically hearing all the struggles artists go through, from reading various artists interviews and books I don't think I'd want that pressure, I like reading Chuck D's terrordomes every month on publicenemy.com 'cause he gives so much insight, I want to start my own imprint in my local area and sign any inspiring artists of any genre as long as they're talented artists that love music and promote and produce for them, I'd probably be more of a producer/song writer than an artist, I don't want all the drama that comes with it, I'm more of a laid back dude, maybe just do an album for fun is what I probably want to ultimately do, btw it's cool how Chuck D emails his fans back, me and him been having a debate on why he considers Jay-Z the best rapper ever, he don't really like much of his songs either but from a skill level he respects him, Chuck D is really more of a friend to his fans than just an artist, I wish more were like him, if I get big one day I want to do the same thing to my fans, he's like the Charles Barkley of rap in my view 'cause of his talents but he also very intelligent and a great commentator, he could talk to you about anything

Well i dont think JD want Janet anywhere near LL... lol.. He's gonna los love of his life(who's too good for him IMO) to a hunk like LL.. Yeah that's true, Marc Anthony got mad at LL 'cause J-Lo was flirting with him during the video shoot, lol

Well yeah the music industry in general is in a slump right now, not just Def Jam, but really though Def Jam has been about quality music being promoted, that's what seperated them from other labels, but now with promoting Rick Ross and Young Jeezy really they're just another label, Luda's a B-rated rapper so it's a stepup in promotion, but itreally wouldn't be that significant if LL went somewhere else 'cause that label ain't the same anymore, it's really gonna be hard for Jay-Z to live up to the legacy that Russell Simmons left, it's not gonna be easy, but if he wants that title thenhe has to take that responsibility and the criticism that comes with it if he don't deliver, not just use the title for his own benefit if he wants respect for his position,right now Def Jam ain't different from Columbia, Interscope, or the other major labels where before it used to stand out with quality music being promoted and was critically aclaimed.... btw if Interscope drops G-Unit one day I could see Lloyd Banks still having a career if he leaves the group and branches on his own like Game 'cause he got nice mic skills, he's the one that stands out the most in there, and 50's probably gonna try be an actor, he ain't really gonna rap that much longer I believe, he's just milking every minute of fame that he has and when it's gone he won't rap anymore,he's probably asking Will and LL for acting tips right now more than anything, he's working on a film with Samuel L. Jackson, he said in his book that he considers himself a hustler like Diddy so that's what he's gonna try to do, he knows he'll never be the nicest rapper, he's just really doing buisiness moves.... btw, "Control Myself" is cool but J-Lo didn't do anything on it really, it was a nice throwback flow on it with the '80s sample, Janet Jackson would've been perfect on there, she's much more hotter and talented, I don't know why that didn't happen especially with her boo producing the track, I believe if LL did a track with Janet that'd be a huge hit and they could do a real creative video...

Yeah there's some scenes on "Run's House" where Rev. Run's in the studio with him, he is pretty good, quite interesting to see a lot of kids in the families of legends are getting influenced to come in the rap game, Ice Cube mentioned that in an interview that his son produces

Well I never actually timed it yet, I just played it in my stereo where you can't see the time on it, I'll just throw in my PC here and see how long it is, yeah it is 9:22, but is there an even longer version?