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I agree that there is a variety of styles still out there, there's a major difference between DMX and Outkast albums, DMX got that gritty east coast sound while Outkast got that laid back southern sound, but if you're waiting on another golden era then I guess hip-hop must be dead then, btw that's cool that you post quotables, Turntable had a post like that called "rhyme of the day", we should bring that back, btw here's some rhymes that I've been feeling this year, it's really hard to think that hip-hop's dead when you hear mcs make rhymes like this, people need to quit bitching and just listen for real: DMX "Life Be My Song": "to live is to suffer and i'm living it up face everyday chin up I ain't giving it up cause if I aint giving a **** the who will?! so I hope for the best knowing that its all uphill sometimes I wonder what's lifes about sometimes I wonder why I take the wrong route then turn around and go out and no doubt, the fate in mine is blind so whatever, **** it, I'ma roll out we all go through the motions we get different notions we each have our own ocean that we can either drown or float like the vessels that we are vessels that would carry many far" Ice Cube "The N***a Trap" "You only got two places State of California, got two faces Mother****in devils, get straight racist When they get you in them lonely dark places Concrete slave ships, never move Where niggaz like us get used like a mule Don't let 'em catch you, arrest you Strip and undress you, throw you in a cesspool You wanna know the crime of the century A ghetto elementary, a mental penitentiary Black man, you never been friend of me Boy you kin to me, why we enemies?" Method Man "Say" "Ask Miss Hill, half these critics ain't got half this skill Often so hungry that they have to steal If I didn't have my deal, and didn't have this mass appeal Then I'm back up in that trap, swingin' crack it's real And that ain't worth the time, so search and find a new nerve And here's three words: stop working mine It take a lot more to hurt my pride Jerk my vibe more than media lies, cry when dirt dog die nigga The last album wasn't feeling my style This time my foot up in they ass but they feelin' me now Cause Tical, he put his heart in every track he do But somehow yall find someway to give a whack review It ain't all good, they writin' that I'm Hollywood Tryin' to tell you my **** ain't ghetto and they hardly hood Come on man, until you dudes can write some rhymes Keep that in mind when you find yourself reciting mines"

Nas' is just trying to start controversey by saying that, if he really meant **** hip-hop then he wouldn't be rapping anymore, that's like saying **** himself 'cause hip-hop is his life

Well if people actually supported real rappers like I said all along hip-hop would be where it needs to be, you have to accept that not everything great rappers do will be a classic or groundbreaking but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't support them 'cause if you don't support them then the record labels will drop them and sign more watered down rappers instead, I rather hear LL's new songs getting played on the radio rather then another "laffy taffy" or another bow wow song, that's what's gonna kill hip-hop really, support real hip-hop, i'd rather see an average method man sell 5 million rather than garbage 50 cent album sell 5 million anyday, "lost and found" could've easily sold 3 million like "he's the dj, i'm the rapper", all those older fans though probably don't consider "lost and found" to be on the same level as "he's the dj, i'm the rapper" so they didn't buy it while 5 million white kids run out to buy a garbage eminem album at that time with no hesititation, older fans are too picky while kids will buy any garbage that gets promoted that's why rap's so watered down right now the way I see it, i'm not really talking about you here, i'm talking about fans in general, basically everyone here is open minded, you don't have to buy every album but you shouldn't just wait for a classic album to come out to buy it, that's a wrong mentality to have, if you really only buy music 'cause it's classic then hip-hop is dead, Chuck D recently said in a terrordome that 1996 was the last year of classic hip-hop, I guess when 2Pac died classic hip-hop died too, the golden era is over but that don't mean that hip-hop died

Well the truth is that basically all of Bow Wow's C-Rated rhymes are ghostwritten, even if you think TI's garbage he's giving his garbage rhymes to Bow Wow, so why should he talk **** at all? Nobody's gonna ghostwrite for him if he keeps it up, lol... At least Rick Ross writes all of his C-Rated rhymes, lol, all them would kill Bow Wow in a freestyle, a lot of them spit freestyles on mixtapes, if he can't write his own raps I doubt he could spit from the top of his dome, Bow Wow recently said that he's gonna be a bigger buisinessman than Puffy too, this kid must be on some heavy crack, he claims that he bought some Mcdonald's but he probably means that he's gonna be working at Mcdonald's 'cause that's what'll happen once JD stops holding his hand, lol

Jazzy Jeff said before that FP was basically just freestylin' in the studio when "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" was recorded, that's probably why it only took 2 weeks to make it

Oprah comes on at 4PM where I'm at so I'll be sure to check for it, I'll get the VCR set in case I gotta go out then, thanks for the heads up

Yeah there's other mcs that could flow better than Jay-Z can and there are a lot of mcs that could spit from the top of their dome, really all mcs think out their rhymes whether they write it down or not

I agree with that, some people don't buy albums unless they're classics and they really miss out on great music, I understand how people do that "this album ain't as good as his.... album so i ain't gonna listen", the expectation level really is something that sorta really gets people to miss out on great music, I see that happening with a lot of great rappers like DMX, LL, Outkast, Ice Cube, etc. didn't put out their best albums this year but they put out some quality music again, they all deserve to sell more than what they did, people been doing that to Nas too since his albums don't sound like "Illmatic", he put out great music since then but not on that level so people decide to miss out on him, now Game did a much better album this time than his first, Kanye sorta improved on his last album too but maybe their big egos might hurt their popularity gradually, music fans find one exuse or another not to buy an album so I understand why Will might not feel like rapping anymore

Music fans are very fickle like I said, some people wonder why artists can't be true to their fans but the truth is that fans ain't true to the artists more really, I think though that Will could rap until 50 if he wanted to more than other rappers since he actually raps about life issues, there's people out there that'd relate to him more than rappers who just talk about shooting and slapping women around, they ain't gonna have any audience to take them seriously when they're 50 years old, but hey if music ain't his passion anymore why do it? Will should do what makes him happy 'cause at the end of the day it's his life when the cheers stop, he has to look out for himself a lil' bit,if music don't make him happy, then he should do things that make him happy

Well since Will seems to hang with Tom Cruise a lot these days, he'll probably start doing public tantrums too so it might be an even ground now, lol

Well Bill Cosby is strong black man with a lot of integrity, I don't blame him for not wanting a rapper that raps about degrading things to have that name, I like his comment recently criticising BET, that channel's garbage most of the time

I don't understand how they could win AMA's when they put out their album over a year and a half ago, music must really be dead then, lol... Black Eyed Peas Nab Three Awards at AMAs By SANDY COHEN AP Entertainment Writer LOS ANGELES - They ruled the American Music Awards with three wins, but don't look for the Black Eyed Peas to score another trifecta when Grammy nominations are announced next month. The band's most recent record, 2005's "Monkey Business," was named favorite rap/hip-hop album Tuesday, but it isn't eligible for consideration for the Grammy awards in February. Still, the hybrid hip-hop quartet, which blends rap and vocals with jazzy backdrops and groovy bass lines, is clearly one of America's favorites, winning best group in both the rap/hip hop and soul/rhythm & blues categories. Meanwhile, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Kelly Clarkson, Mary J. Blige and Rascal Flatts may have become instant Grammy front-runners with double wins at the American Music Awards on Tuesday. Each has a new album that qualifies for consideration. The Red Hot Chili Peppers were favorite alternative artist and pop/rock band. They accepted their award via satellite from London, with bass player Flea beat-boxing as lead singer Anthony Kiedis thanked "the American people." Critics have called the band's latest album, "Stadium Arcadium," its best in years. Clarkson captured trophies for pop/rock female and adult contemporary artist. Rascal Flatts won favorite country group and the T-Mobile Text-In award, which is chosen by fans. Blige won favorite soul/rhythm & blues album for "The Breakthrough." She was also the favorite female R&B artist. She accepted the award from surprise presenter Britney Spears, who looked sleek in a knee-length cream-colored frock and long blond hair. Oscar winner Jamie Foxx was named favorite male soul/rhythm & blues artist. "I'm like a rookie in this music thing," he said. "This means a lot more than you think, man." Foxx performed "Wish U Were Here" from his 2005 album, "Unpredictable." Nickelback took home the trophy for pop/rock album for "All the Right Reasons." Among country honors, favorite female artist went to Faith Hill, male artist went to Toby Keith and Tim McGraw's "Greatest Hits Volume 2" was favorite album. Country singer and "American Idol" winner Carrie Underwood was crowned new breakthrough artist. Eminem took favorite male rap/hip-hop artist. The male pop/rock artist trophy went to dancehall singer Sean Paul. Shakira won favorite Latin artist, and Kirk Franklin captured the award for contemporary inspirational music. "I know that a lot of people that say that they're Christians - you know, we don't always represent, and we don't always live it and we do sometimes some very stupid things, and you know we're not doing a good job," said Franklin. "I want to make sure that when you see my life that it's a life that I'm gonna be proud of." The ceremony, broadcast by ABC from the Shrine Auditorium, was hosted by Jimmy Kimmel, who launched a skit that placed a lookalike for Spears' ex, Kevin Federline, into a wooden crate that gets dumped into the ocean. Kimmel cracked that Federline was the world's first "no-hit wonder." Beyonce began the show, belting out her single "Irreplaceable" while vamping around the stage in a sparkly sequined minidress. The Pussycat Dolls also chose sequins for their performance, while Nelly Furtado opted for a skintight white dress and stick-straight hair. Gwen Stefani made a stylish return to the music scene, performing the single "Wind It Up" from her forthcoming album, "The Sweet Escape." The new mom, wearing a skimpy sequined shift and a shoulder-length platinum bob, yodeled and rapped convincingly throughout the tune. Rapper Jay-Z stepped back into the spotlight, accompanied by scantily clad dancers as he performed the single "Show Me What You Got" from his new record, "Kingdom Come." Lionel Richie made a festive return to the awards. Introduced by his diminutive daughter, Nicole Richie, the former Commodore performed a medley that included his '80s party anthem "All Night Long." Barry Manilow performed a medley of favorites from his latest collection, "The Greatest Songs of the Sixties." Some awards were announced off camera before the broadcast presentations. The American Music Awards honor the best in pop/rock, country, soul/rhythm & blues, rap/hip hop, Latin, alternative, adult contemporary and contemporary inspirational music. Nominees were chosen based on record sales and winners were selected by a survey of about 20,000 listeners.

Yeah if Will starts acting weird like Tom Cruise as well then I won't like him that much as I used to either

I always been hyped for Jeff's album no matter what Will's been doing, I support JJ+FP, not just FP....

Hip-hop ain't really dead, it just ain't as great as it used to be but there's still some quality music on a mainstream level even though they might not do big numbers(What about artists like Outkast and DMX? That Game album's pretty damn tight too, you could say what you want about his image but his music's great, that song he did with Nas on there was incredible, even Ludacris stepped his game up), I think it's taking steps in starting to turn around, the weak rappers ain't selling as much as they used to, nobody's really selling anything anymore so it's an even playing field, maybe this will be a wakeup to labels to promote more creative music and stop promoting the same bs since nobody wants to buy it anymore, either the music industry keeps taking a downward spiral or something dramatic happens within the next couple years, hopefully these labels wake up and realise that better music needs to be promoted since the crap music ain't selling anymore, btw if Will left the rap game 'cause his album only went gold then I hope G-Unit decide to leave the rap game since they're selling less than that now, well Interscope will be giving them pink slips soon anyway, their 15 minutes are up, lol

Well the main thing is that Will's happy, I wish him the best really in whatever he does, he got my back, the thing that got me confused though is that he said that he don't listen to music anymore when I thought music was his life

I like a lot of his movies, I think he's a great actor but I'm a much bigger fan of music than movies, there's always 9 albums that I could listen to, and I think that he's a great person and role model in the entertainment industry and life in general, he continually get my support, I might some things like he's going through a mid-life crisis 'cause I ain't a Loretta even though I'm a fan, it's just respectful criticism, I just don't see how he could say that music is his life last year and now he just shuts it out of his life altogether, what's going on there?

Nas brings up some real strong points there, clearly this'll stir up more controversey, but it just seems that there's a lot of disinterest towards the music industry, people ain't buying music anymore, the way things are going it's a wonder whether anybody'll be even listening to music in a few years, maybe everyone's gonna be like Will and not listen to it at all, lol

It's too long to post the whole thing, here's the main quotes that he made: AllHipHop.com: Brother Nas, Hip-Hop is dead…you really think so? Nas: [Nodding head] It’s been dead. AllHipHop.com: That being said, how do you bring it back? Nas: You don’t. F**k Hip-Hop. ....Hip-Hop is dead, it’s not a bad thing. It’s just the acknowledgement. The ones that take offense to it are the ones who didn’t benefit from it, the ones who wanna make it better and the ones who know they killed it. They should have known it’s dead. It didn’t take me to see it.... AllHipHop.com: It’s interesting you say that but when I think Hip-Hop, besides rapping I also think graffiti and, DJing, breakdancing; that’s not dead? Nas; Well it’s not a moneymaking business to the point of billions in graffiti or DJing. It’s not the main concentration, it’s almost looked at as corny by the kids today. I think those were the first two to go honestly. But there is a strong DJ culture, strong graffiti culture, that I respect and will always respect, that always will be the original elements of Hip-Hop. But, as far as the respect level from today’s kids, it’s been gone. Me saying it’s dead, they’re like, “Oh, now you’re just realizing that?” [laughing] They’re like they don’t want to hear about that. So it’s really me just saying it’s really done. Not just Hip-Hop. I think all music has been dead for a while. Especially R&B, especially Rock, they been gone. ....like they said video kills the radio star. The unfortunate thing about it is when it gets in the hands of business, it turns into an industry. It becomes a different kind of animal, which is good if it can be controlled and maintained right. But the inevitable happens, and you lose it. AllHipHop.com: A lot of artists in your category are starting to go the indie route, is that something your considering? Nas: I think we have no choice but to do that. You don’t always want the pressures of a major distributor behind you. You want to be able to see what it feels like to do it on your own. I think every artist in the game would want to feel like what it feels like to do it independently, at least once if anything. If you wanna see the rest of the interview where he talks about working with Game, being signed to Def Jam, his baby mother Carmen writing a scandelous book about him, then check the links: http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1627 http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1626

Wtf, I guess Will must be hanging out with Tom Cruise too much these days, lol, that response is quite strange and unusual for him to make, he could be going through a mid life crisis too, gotta keep that in mind, lol

Bill Cosby Won't Let Rapper Call Himself Fat Al Tuesday November 14, 2006 @ 07:00 PM By: ChartAttack.com Staff Al Fatz Bill Cosby reached an out of court settlement with a Canadian woman last week over a lawsuit where she alleged that the entertainer drugged and sexually assaulted her, but there was no settling with teenage rapper Fat Al. Cosby's legal team claimed that the artist's name was too close to Fat Albert, the cartoon character created by the man who played Cliff Huxtable on one of the most popular television shows of the '80s, and wouldn't let him use it. "I guess he doesn't like rappers," the young man born Aljaray Gaston told Reuters. "I'm just trying to come up and Bill Cosby was hating. I know one thing, I won't be buying any more Jell-O pudding." Gaston and Atlantic Records have decided to go with the performing name Al Fatz for his label debut that he's currently working on. Akon and Lil Wayne are contributing to the project. The 19-year-old hip-hopper from Cleveland, Ohio also has a song on the Madden 2007 video game soundtrack and is recording the theme for Electronic Arts' NBA Street Homecourt game. He's also recording a song for a Sprite advertising campaign featuring basketball star LeBron James.

Tyrese Speaks On Black-Ty Reaction and Possible Musical Retirement By Chris Richburg Date: 11/21/2006 7:45 am It's been a good year for Tyrese Gibson. With a hit movie ( Waist Deep ) and one on the way ( Transformers ), as well as a successful collaboration with rapper Chingy ("Pullin' Me Back), the crooner/thespian is riding a wave of good fortune. Couple this with the unveiling of his rhyme persona Black-Ty and Gibson becomes a humbled soul in the midst of the love he's received. "I feel blessed, like I've sold 10 million records already. I feel like I can die in Hip-Hop heaven," Gibson said about Black-Ty's acceptance in the rap community. "It wasn't the fans that was the hardest challenge because sometimes it takes a minute for things to grow on the fans. For me the hardest challenge was my peers, everybody in this industry who make the music business run, who run the game. Everybody that's in this rap game that's embraced me. Those are the cats that I was concerned about." Fellow emcees aren't the only ones embracing Black-Ty. The rapper's latest mixtape Ghetto Royalty has received more than 450,000 downloads in four weeks. The mixtape's success comes as Gibson prepares for the release of his forthcoming album Alter Ego, a double disc featuring R&B from the singer as well as rhymes from Black-Ty. The album boasts cameos from Snoop Dogg, Game and Method Man, David Banner, Lil Scrappy, Kurupt, Too Short, R. Kelly and Lil' Jon. Production comes courtesy of Mannie Fresh, Scott Storch and the Frontline Boyz. Gibson is planning a 35-city outing where concertgoers must wear black to see the singer perform as well as hear music from the album before it hits stores on Dec. 12 Although he enjoys making music and interacting with fans, Gibson hints that Alter Ego could be his musical swan song. "This could definitely be the last," admitted the balladeer, who is leaning toward acting full-time. "If this for whatever reason don't stick, this could be it. It ain't no gimmick but this could definitely be it. I told J Records 'you better get me while you can because if this s*** for whatever reason don't take off, I'm done.'" Black Ty's Ghetto Royalty mixtape is available at www.headquarterentertainment.com.

The compilation album was cancelled last summer AJ posted this, close thread...

Ice Cube's directing and performing in some films and he still finds time to rap once in a while, he actually released his first rap album in 6 years this year so who knows maybe in a few years we might see Will release another album in between directing and performing in films, woosah, let the man live his life, he's not a rap machine

Nah man I don't think that's possible to run out of ideas to rap about, that's like saying he ran out of life, I'm sure there are some things going on in his life that he might want to talk about in music, maybe he might just be doing it for himself right now