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I think the reason why Lupe's album didn't sell as well as they thought it'd is 'cause I heard some people say that they liked the leaked version better so hopefully Nas don't have to push his album back and record new material 'cause it might not be as good as what leaked, that's the bad thing about having an album leak early like this, btw I heard Game's album leaked too, it's only 2 weeks away so it's not too bad

Yeah that's true but a month and a half early is not good, hopefully it don't get delayed now, they need to push that release date up so his sales won't be affected

Nobody takes G-Unit seriously anymore, when Nas' album drops it'll be the nail in the coffin for them

Was this before or after Nas announced the title of his album in May? Pretty soon it will be "G-Unit Is Dead" It happened after of course, 50's trying to piss off Nas I guess but really 50's digging his own grave :stickpoke:

Nas wouldn't sign to Def Jam if he wasn't worried about selling records, let's be real, he knows that all the big name artists sign there and sell the most records in hip-hop, he'd go to Koch with KRS-ONE if he didn't worry about sales, but even KRS would go to a big record label if they gave him a good offer, mostly every artist wants to sell records and have success, there was people out there that considered "Street's Disciple" a flop when his previous 2 albums "Stillmatic" and "God's Son" were multiplatinum and "Street's Disciple" shipped platinum, he was selling as much as the big name artists were during that time, only people like Jay-Z and DMX were selling more then, there's a big drop off between selling 2 million with "Stillmatic" and selling 600,000 with "Street's Disciple", and there are some people that criticise Nas for going to Def Jam and working for Jay-Z, I could understand why too 'cause a couple years ago he was calling Def Jam a slaveship and now he signs there where Def Jam don't really look that much better today either, it's just as understandable to see people criticising Nas for going to Def Jam as it is to see people criticising LL for working with 50 Cent, in fact even more so 'cause LL never criticised 50 Cent but Nas was very vocal about how he didn't like Def Jam, I don't think there's anything wrong with Nas squashing beef with Jay-Z but going around acting like he's best friends with him like nothing went wrong before is gonna send mixed feelings to fans, it's looking like he's just trying to ride off of Jay-Z' success now rather than keep it real, Jay-Z ain't the realest rapper... It'll be interesting to see how many people check for Nas this time around but other than that there's no doubt about what he's gonna do musically, he's a consistant artist, it'd be nice to see a real artist sell for a change these days, that's why people are saying "hip-hop is dead" 'cause the real albums don't sell as much as the garbage polluting the airwaves but real hip-hop never has been about sales, btw the reason why I mentioned Lupe leaking earlier is 'cause he was hyped up as the future star of hip-hop but then his album leaked many weeks before and his sales were affected, Nas' album has been highly anticipated for a while and if it leaks this earlier it might not sell, downloading is killing the music industry...

There don't seem to be that much real hip-hop fans for Lupe, 15 year olds make up the majority of the buying public and that's why real hip-hop don't sell, and with all those big name rappers on Hi-Tek's album I'm surprised that it's only selling 28,000 copies, but the good news is that at least Lloyd Banks, Young Dro, and Chingy are flopping too instead of selling millions like it could be, it could be a lot worse

Wow it seems music is like movies now, if you don't sell a lot in the first week you ain't gonna do that well, you really gotta go gold or platinum in first week to have big sales these days, only people like Justin and Beyonce do that while everyone else struggles, Diddy had a huge drop from last week(so I guess this'll really be his final album since nobody wants to hear him anymore, lol), Lupe had a respectable start selling 80,000 in the first week but it seemed like it ran out of steam fast, I actually hear "Daydreamin'" on the radio though, kinda odd that it ain't doing better, I thought that album would have legs from word of mouth since it's so good, that's how Lyfe Jennings' last album went platinum, it just stayed on the charts for a long time from word of mouth, even though it only sold like 5,000 copies in the first week, he got off to a better start too this time but it seems like that ain't gonna happen this time for him either, that seems to be once in a lifetime to sell well without a big first week

I think that already happened when Dr. Dre was dancin' to an orchestra in a music video 10 years ago, "Been There, Done That"

The whole album leaked? Wow that's not a good sign for Nas since it's not coming out for another month and a half, he's gonna flop like Lupe now...

It's a hot track, can't wait till his album drops, he really seems focused

Vipa got an all star team with Nash, Artest, Mcgrady, Lebron, Baron, etc, he got the team to beat, I say I got pretty lucky to get both Yao and Shaq, got some good guards like Stephon and Gordon too, I got a good balance I'd say to compete, I like your team too Max having Kobe, Carmelo, D. Howard, and J. Kidd, we start playing on Week 2 which begins Monday November 6th

Yeah if Will wants to prove that he don't follow everybody when it's time to rap, he should just go back to the basics, have 2 turntables and a mic with Jazzy Jeff and that'll be enough to please real hip-hop fans

Great draft guys, I'm happy with my team, let the games begin!! :chuks:

I think albums are like mixtapes these days, it seems like there's guests on every track on most albums, I like some guest appearances but I'd prefer that Will's album having less guest appearances, he could carry albums by himself

You figure Will Smith fans should know that already not to judge somebody on one song...

I love Boyz II Men, I got all their albums, it's been a lil' bit dissapointing that Michael ain't in the group anymore, it don't seem the same without him, and I had no idea they were doing anything new lately, btw I found this listed on amazon.com, it mentions there how what got released now it's only released in Japan, the US won't get the release until Feb. 14th, 2007: "The US version of this album will be a DOUBLE CD and will be available on February 14, 2007. Please visit - www.biimstudio.com - www.boyziimen.com - www.myspace.com/boyziimen"

Well this'll give Will an exuse to do more movies :stickpoke:

K-Solo got nerve to call DMX's album a flop when he hasn't sold a record in god knows how long, lol, X is real as mcs come these days too, there are many fake rappers that he could be going after instead of DMX, please...

We got even teams now to do the draft tomorrow :woowoo:

We won't be able to do a draft until there's an even amount of players

People who think that Jay-Z' coming back to save hip-hop are blind when he does a lot of the same things that those who they criticise for ruining hip-hop do

Well we could do the draft today and get the best players and then whoever wants to join later won't have that benefit :interesting:

A wise slogan once said "Just Do It" I know a lot of people who've talked about starting this or that business, but that's as far as most of them take it. In my view, the most important thing is to start doing things. Plans are good, but they don't accomplish anything by themselves. And regardless of how much you study it and plan for it, you don't really know what you're doing till you try (and frequently mess up) a few times. I started a software company a few years ago. To get started I, in this order, developed a product, went down to the local government building to registered a company name, registered a website, developed a website, and setup an account with a merchant. Of course your steps will likely be different depending on the type of business you're starting. Are those ads on the internet about how you have to put out a payment to get information to start a buisiness at home actually legit? I've been curious to know since I've seen quite a bit of them when I do job searches

Well it says that Rita Marley wanted that rapper Reggie to be on the stage and Jay-Z refused so that's disrespect, Jay-Z' probably the most overrated rapper and he has a garbage personality, I mean he's acting like a diva, he shooting a special for MTV for awareness of water and he charges high ticket prices in the poorest country in the world, it's obvious that he don't care, he just doing a lil' PR but at the same time he wants to make sure his pockets are fat

Legendary Celtics coach Auerbach dead at age 89 ESPN.com news services WASHINGTON -- Red Auerbach, the Hall of Fame coach who led the Boston Celtics to nine NBA championships in the 1950s and 1960s, died Saturday. He was 89. Auerbach won 938 games with the Celtics and was the winningest coach in NBA history until Lenny Wilkens overtook him in the 1994-95 season. As general manager, the straight-talking Auerbach, who celebrated victories with a postgame cigar, was also the architect of Celtics teams that won seven more titles in the 1970s and 1980s. Red Auerbach has been a mainstay at Celtics games for years. Auerbach's death was announced by the Celtics, for whom he still served as team president. The team said the upcoming season would be dedicated in his honor. He died of a heart attack near his home in Washington, according to an NBA official, who declined to be identified because the family had not made an official announcement. His last public appearance was on Wednesday, when he received the U.S. Navy's Lone Sailor Award in front of family and friends in ceremonies in Washington. "Red was a guy who always introduced new things," Steve Pagliuca, a Celtics managing partner, told The Associated Press in an interview this month. "He had some of the first black players in the league and some people didn't like that, but you've got to do what's right for the fans. So I think we tried to do things thoughtfully. We didn't come in here and change everything overnight." Born Arnold Auerbach in Brooklyn, N.Y. on Sept. 20, 1917, Auerbach was inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame in 1968. "I never thought he'd die," said author John Feinstein, who last year collaborated on a book with Auerbach on the coach's reflections of more than 70 years in basketball. "He was a unique personality, a combination of toughness and great, great caring about people. He cared about people much more than it showed in his public face, and that's why people cared about him." With the Celtics, he made deals that brought Bill Russell, Robert Parish and Kevin McHale to Boston. He drafted Larry Bird a year early when the Indiana State star was a junior to make sure Bird would come to Boston. The jersey No. 2 was retired in Auerbach's honor during the 1984-85 season. He coached championship teams, including eight straight from 1959 through 1966, that featured players such as Russell, Bob Cousy, Tom Heinsohn, Bill Sharman, K.C. Jones and Sam Jones, all inducted into the Hall of Fame. Phil Jackson matched Auerbach's record nine championships when the Los Angeles Lakers won the title in 2001-02. After stepping down as general manager in 1984, Auerbach served as president of the Celtics and occasionally attended team practices into the mid-1990s, although his role in the draft and personnel decisions had diminished. When Rick Pitino became coach in 1997, he also took the president's title and Auerbach became vice chairman of the board. After Pitino resigned on Jan. 8, 2001, Auerbach regained the title of president and remained vice chairman. The team was sold on Dec. 31, 2002, to a group headed by Wyc Grousbeck and Auerbach stayed on as president. Through all those titles, Auerbach didn't lose his direct manner of speaking, such as when he discussed the parquet floor of the Boston Garden shortly before the Celtics' longtime home closed in September 1995. "The whole thing was a myth," Auerbach said. "People thought not only that there were dead spots, but that we knew where every one was and we could play accordingly. "Now, did you ever watch a ballplayer go up and down the court at that speed and pick out a dead spot?" he asked. "If our players worried about that, thinking that's going to help them win, they're out of their cotton-picking mind. But if the other team thought that: Hey, good for us." As Celtics president, Auerbach shuttled between Boston and his home in the nation's capital, where he led an active lifestyle that included playing racquetball and tennis into his mid-70s. Auerbach underwent two procedures in May 1993 to clear blocked arteries. He had been bothered by chest discomfort at various times beginning in 1986. Auerbach was also hospitalized a year ago, but he was soon active again and attended the Celtics' home opener. Asked that night what his thoughts were, he replied in his usual blunt manner: "What goes through your mind is, 'When the hell are we going to win another one?' I mean, it's as simple as that." Auerbach had planned to be at the Celtics' 2006-07 opener, in Boston next Wednesday against the New Orleans Hornets. In his 16 seasons as Boston's coach, he berated referees and paced the sideline with a rolled-up program in his clenched fist. The cigar came out when he was sure of another Celtics' victory. He had a 938-479 regular-season coaching record and a 99-69 playoff mark. Auerbach had a reputation as a keen judge of talent who always seemed to get the best of trades with fellow NBA coaches and general managers. In 1956, he traded Ed Macauley and Cliff Hagan to St. Louis for the Hawks' first-round pick and ended up with Russell -- probably the greatest defensive center of all time and the heart of 11 championship teams. In 1978, he drafted Bird in the first round even though he would have to wait a year before the forward could become a professional. Before the 1980 draft, the Celtics traded the top choice to Golden State for Parish and the third choice. The Warriors took Joe Barry Carroll. The Celtics chose McHale. In 1981, Boston chose Brigham Young guard Danny Ainge in the second round. Ainge was playing baseball in the Toronto Blue Jays organization at the time, but was freed after a court battle to play for the Celtics. In June 1983, another one-sided deal brought guard Dennis Johnson from Phoenix for seldom-used backup center Rick Robey. Auerbach attended Seth Low Junior College in New York and George Washington University. His playing career was undistinguished. In three seasons at George Washington he scored 334 points in 56 games -- a 6.0 average. He would often attend games at GW's Smith Center. He was an instant coaching success, posting the best record of his career in his first season. He led the Washington Capitols to a 49-11 mark in 1946-47, the NBA's debut season, and took them to the playoff semifinals. The Capitols had winning records the next two seasons under Auerbach, who moved on to the Tri-Cities Blackhawks for one season in 1949-50. They had a 28-29 mark, Auerbach's only losing record in 20 years as an NBA coach. In the NBA's first four seasons, the Celtics never had a winning record. But Auerbach changed that dramatically when he succeeded Alvin "Doggy" Julian as Boston's coach for the 1950-51 campaign. They went 39-30 that season, and the Celtics never had a losing record in his 16 seasons as coach. Boston never had a winning percentage below .611 in his last 10 seasons. His last game as coach was on April 28, 1966, when Boston edged the Lakers 95-93 in Game 7 of the finals to win the NBA title. He was just 48 years old, but ready to move on. On Feb. 13 of that season, Auerbach was honored at halftime of a loss to Los Angeles at Boston Garden. "They say that losing comes easier as you grow older," he said after the game. "But losing keeps getting harder for me. I just can't take it like I used to. It's time for me to step out." Russell became player-coach the next season, while Auerbach concentrated on his job as general manager. Russell was the first of five Boston coaches who had played for Auerbach. Auerbach is survived by two daughters, Nancy Auerbach Collins and Randy Auerbach; his granddaughter, Julie Auerbach Flieger, and three great-grandchildren.