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Yeah Turntable I think a lot of us go through bullying in school, really it's just kids looking for attention, like the famous words of FP just "Wave 'Em Off" and btw I'll keep your co-worker in my thoughts AJ

I haven't received the Weekly Bread for the last couple weeks it seems, did it stop?

You could say that it's uncertain what he'd want to do now so that's what makes it even more of a reason why there shouldn't be anymore doctored albums, it's time to let him rest in peace

Yeah all these doctored albums is ridiculous really, in reality with the way the rap game has been lately 2Pac probably wouldn't even want to rap that much anymore, I don't think any of his original fans really respect the way that these doctored albums are being handled either

Afeni Shakur Announces Release Date For Brand New Tupac Album By Clarence Burke Jr. Date: 10/19/2006 9:50 am A new generation of rappers will pay tribute to Tupac Shakur on the upcoming posthumous release by the rapper, titled Pac's Life. Pac's Life, which is the follow-up to 2004's platinum-selling studio album Loyal To The Game, consists of previously unreleased vocals by Tupac combined with new contributions from rappers like Snoop Dogg, Ludacris, T.I., Young Buck, Ashanti, Lil' Scrappy, Carl Thomas, Keyshia Cole, Outlawz, Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, Big Skye, Papoose and others. Production from Swizz Beatz, LT Hutton, G-Unit's Sha Money XL and others round out the album, which is being executive produced by Afeni Shakur and Tom Whalley, the co-founder of Interscope Records who originally signed Tupac in 1991. "I say it every time, that Tupac left us the blueprints to follow, and without the amazing contributions made by everyone of these artists, producers, musicians, everyone, I do not know how I would get this great task accomplished," Afeni Shakur said. "I believe whole-heartedly that Tupac sends the people he wants to these projects." Pac's Life hits stores Nov. 21

I remember reading Chuck D saying in an interview that the problem in the music industry is that some artists forget about what they do with their music once they get paid a lot, the fame gets to their head and they have no vision in what they want to do with their music, sorta like athletes that get fat on their multi million dollar deals instead of playing hard like they used to before they got the big payday, that's a problem right there, having a bunch of yes men around them really causes them to slack, record labels build them up as superheros then slowly their careers self-destruct, only the strong minded individuals like Chuck D and FP could handle it over a long period of time

Man Rhymefest basically says what I've been saying, if people want rappers to stop rapping about violence we need to eliminate poverty, art imitates life Rhymefest Talks Hip-Hop with Tory Party Leader By Chris Richburg Date: 10/19/2006 2:45 pm Chicago lyricist Rhymefest found common ground Thursday (Oct. 19) while acting as a goodwill Hip-Hop ambassador during his overseas visit with Tory Party leader David Cameron. In addition to discussing Cameron's concerns over violent rap lyrics, the London Metro Times reports that Rhymefest treated the British politician to a performance in his House of Commons office and even invited him to venture with him to a nightclub. Although the pair was in unison about not banning Hip-Hop, they also felt that rappers have a responsibility to portray the positive side of life in their music. "David told me what his issues were and I told him what my issues were with what could be perceived in what he was saying and we came to what I believe was an understanding," said the Grammy-winning rapper, who made no apology for using violent imagery in his lyrics to reflect the reality of Chicago street life. Instead, he encouraged leaders to concentrate on beating poverty rather than criticize musicians. "Politicians, if they don't like what we are saying, then have policy that uproots the disease of poverty instead of policy that promotes poverty and makes the rich richer. If you have policy that kills the disease of poverty, then you can kill the symptom of negative rap." "Rap music comes from urban rebellion," Rhymefest continued as he voiced his opposition to those urging MCs to tone down their lyrics. "What we doing comes from our frustration. Why do we got to change? Why can't the things that cause us to yell out and cry for help change?" Thursday's meeting came as a result of a recent request from Rhymefest to meet Cameron "over a cup of tea" after hearing the politician's criticism of DJs for playing violent songs. The get-together proved to be productive as the duo addressed Cameron's proposals for a "music for good" initiative to use the power of music to raise funds for positive projects, such as community radio stations, around the country. The leader called the meeting "very positive" while harping on the fact that artists, radio stations and the music industry have a responsibility and opportunity to act as positive role models for young people. In addition, Cameron voiced his desire to celebrate and promote the positivity that music does, as well as take a stand against the negative. "I had a very positive meeting with Rhymefest and Sony BMG today and I am keen to work with them in developing the idea of a project which harnesses the tremendous cultural power of artists and the music industry to support community radio and local music projects around the country," said Cameron. As for the politician taking Rhymefest up on his offer to go clubbing, the Metro Times stated that Cameron declined due to his busy schedule.

This is ridiculous, they're obviously targeting him 'cause he's a celebrity, he ain't doing nothing wrong

Yeah it really comes down to what Will desires to do, when the time's right he'll make another album when his mind and soul's into doing it and him and Jazzy are potnas for life so we know sooner or later something's bound to happen again, whether they decide to do more records or just some performances

Well I ain't blaming 50 either, basically it's the way society is, we pay attention more to negative things going on than we do positive things, that negative turned into a positive for him which is a good thing, it's like I said in a poem that I wrote: "Most people only want to talk/About their own troubles/Nothing positive is soft/But we let good things remain undercover/Because it's only cool to talk /About the negative things that happen in a scuffle" Now of course if a rapper tries to stretch the truth it really hurts their popularity in the longrun, like if it's discovered for some reason that 50 really didn't get shot then he won't sell anymore records after that, the talent hasn't really carried his career talent don't sell records, image does, the same thing happened to 2Pac's career after all the turmoil and drama, his record sales skyrocketed the moment he got shot/went to jail than it was before even though he was always talented, Interscope marketed him strongly as well 10 years ago, people talk more about his image now than his music which is kinda sad in a way, in all fairness LL's been popular for so long 'cause of his ladies loving image and that he's a sex symbol, KRS-ONE is just as talented but he don't have that type of appealing image so he ain't popular anymore, Will got hit Hollywood movies so record labels will always sign him whenever he wants to make a record(and the fact that his solo records outsold the JJFP albums says that his career's been more marketable 'cause of his Hollywood fame to a degree) as opposed to another high skilled legend in Rakim who has to wait years to get a record deal since he ain't marketable, btw I gotta add that the moment Janet gained weight her record label didn't want to release her album until she lost it, it's all about image, the music industry is more about image than it is about talent no matter if that artist has a lot of talent or not

This is the best answer in the whole post. All this talk, talk talk, argue argue argue. Will has listened to NWA "F*** The Police" for goodness sakes. And says "That's what everybody felt in their hearts". Of course, how much creditibility does Will stand to make supporting NWA. And as I was skimming thru what people said, I disagree with Ted on how a certain rapper raps, then they will make it. Lie to get what you want? Would anybody listen to me if I said I got shot 10 times? One more than 50, and I'm only 20 years old. haha I wouldn't said more, but there's no need to argue on such a factual topic. I need to learn from Turntable to keep the answer short and simple, lol, now if you or me say we got shot 10 times we'd be lying, 50 really was shot though, that shouldn't be promoted as it is but that really turned to blow his career up, it wasn't his fault but Interscope used that as a promotional tool for when he came out and it helped sell him all those records, if he didn't go through that negativity he wouldn't have made it as big as he has, people are fascinated by that image, and those up and coming rappers that don't go through that drama or choose not to rap about that don't make it on the most part

Bump again, I wanna try to get 10 players like last year, it was very competitive

:iagree: Thanks for sharing

Now Q-Tip's voice is used in a beer commercial but his fans are mostly overage so that seems suitable, Jay-Z appeals to younger fans, even 2Pac/Snoop appealed to a lot of younger fans back then too, what they do doesn't look like a good image for rap, and just 'cause 2Pac did something 10 years ago means that it's right, rappers should learn from his mistakes or else they'll face the same criticisism, the rap game ain't gonna evolve thinking like that, rappers need to follow Will's lead to be responsible to the fans, with the positiion that Jay-Z has he could easily call Gatorade or a soft drink company and the commercial would come off proper for his fans, he don't have to settle for a beer commercial if he don't want to

I remember watching the AMA's last year and saw Will high fiving the country singers when they were winning their awards, cheering like he's a fan of them And again what he says on "Lost and Found" displays how he's critical more of the music industry than he is other rappers 'cause the truth is no matter how real some rappers might claim they are if corporations throw them enough money they'll promote negativity to get it, if the record companies concentrated less on signing the most thugged out rappers and actually looked for the rappers with the most talent then I believe that there'd be more balance in the rap industry and music in general, it's not good for our young girls to grow up either and have anorexia 'cause they want to get to Britney Spears'/Beyonce level, you should be able to get a break in the music industry without changing your image but through hard work and building up talent, now I think Will appreciates acting more 'cause it's more about quality than image, really you gotta be a talented actor to break into Hollywood and it ain't about what role you play in the movies as long as you do it well, it ain't that way with music though it seems, if you don't live up to a certain image in music then you won't sell records or get rewarded on the most part, if "Lost and Found" was a movie it'd been his biggest 'cause the effort he put into that was big but the image that he don't live up to is the reason why it didn't do as well as it should've, but when he puts his heart into movies he don't get any criticism.... Now I don't mind listening to some gangsta rap even if I don't agree with some it's messages, the main thing with me is that the artist is talented, Snoop is a very entertaining artist with the way that he flows but 50 Cent and Young Jeezy annoy me 'cause they can't really flow that well on the most part, and positive rappers are cool but that don't mean that they're all on the same level as Rakim(talking about those like Nick Cannon and Kanye West), really all these labels on rap is weak, I just appreciate talented rap music, I appreciate good music in general beyond any label or an image, Will probably comes across that way too and probably a lot of artists in the music industry, everyone on this board probably has different tastes in music but I think a lot of us come across that way too, the problem is that majority of music buyers don't seem to be that way, they'll put an artist down if that artist don't live up to an image even if the music is good...

They need to do this more than once a year, it's gonna take 25 years to honor everyone that deserves to be, btw here's everyone that should be honored next year to me : JJFP mandatory, we should start a petition if they don't get in next year, lol Kool G Rap Kurtis Blow Slick Rick Heavy D and The Boyz Queen Latifah Naughty By Nature "House Party" movie being honored Scott LaRock tribute

Is this referring to Luda's "Tell It Like It Is"? You should tell us who did the track 'cause all of us might not be familiar, btw I'd have to take "Lost and Found" by far although Luda actually did come strong on his track, Will represents what he's saying better so you gotta go with him there

Hey now the Jay-Z' song's cool but I find it a lil' weak that I see him using that song in a beer commercial when probably most of his fans are too young to be drinkin', that's not a good look

Aight let me break this down, I think Will criticises gangsta rap 'cause of the fact that people constantly diss him for not being a real rapper 'cause he ain't hardcore, he don't really have anything against gangsta rap, he's not a hater, he talks about Pac and Biggie 'cause he likes their music, it's more of a thing that he's angry at how the record companies only promote gangsta rap and fans get brainwashed into thinking that if you ain't a hardcore rapper then you're soft, he's basically saying that just 'cause I ain't a gangsta rapper don't mean that I ain't a talented rapper, like he says on "I Wish I Made That" that people sleep on his talent 'cause he don't make hardcoresongs like "Drop It Like It's Hot" and "Lean Back" but if you put Will in a battle with Fat Joe and Snoop he'd definately hold his own lyrically at the very least where more than likely he'd crush them, what's wack about the rap game is that people buy albums off of image instead of talent, if you ain't rapping about booze, guns, and drugs then you ain't gonna sell records even if you got mad talentand that's what makes gangsta rap wack, and ironically as I'm typing this I see the brand new Jay-Z Budweiser commercial come on in between the Mets game I'm watching, it's like people diss positive rappers like Hammer for advertising healthy things like cereal and Gatorade but if you're a hardcore rapper advertising Budweiser or Miller Lite(Flava Flav's my man but thumbs down to that) then you're looked at as cool.... Talib Kweli got much more elevated wordplay than Eminem does but he ain't rapping about killing his mother so he ain't selling anything, Kel Spencer would've blown up like 50 Cent by now if he was rapping about getting shot 9 times, sad but true but it's just like how there's probably a lot of average looking girls that could sing really good but don't have dynamite bodies like Britney and Christina so they won't get record deals, the whole music industry's that way, that's why I don't really pay attention much to mainstream stuff, I'm more into good music rather than the image, it don't hold much weight to me, I think Will does probably listen to a lot of different types of music besides hip-hop too...

Update: Cops Target Fabolous In NBA Robbery Wednesday - October 18, 2006 by Dick Johnson Investigators are looking into a connection between the shooting of Fabolous and an NBA player having his chain robbed minutes before the incident, police said. Reports have surfaced that Sebastian Telfair, a point guard for the Boston Celtics, was stripped of his $64,000 chain minutes before Fab was shot in front of Sean "Diddy" Combs' Justin's Restaurant in New York City (October 17). Initial reports had Fab being shot in the leg following an altercation in front of the restaurant. Detectives apparently learned of the robbery while probing Fab's shooting. A dozen men, including the Brooklyn rapper, were brought into the 13th precinct for lineups. Ed Hayes, Telfair's attorney, told ABC's Eyewitness News that his client was "being cooperative." Telfair, the cousin of New York Knicks guard Stephon Marbury, first gained national prominence as a high school hoop star in Brooklyn, NY. "He's a witness and nobody suspects him of anything," Hayes told Eyewitness. "He's a lovely young man." Fab is set to be arraigned on weapon charges in Lower Manhattan, NY today. According to investigators, Rascharm Davis, 29, Percell German, 23 and Kevin Bass, 18, are also scheduled to appear in court today.

Tyrese Reveals Talking With Fabolous, Cassidy Around Time Of Incidents Singer/rapper also says he roped in Game, Snoop, R. Kelly, Lil Jon, Method Man for double-LP. by Shaheem Reid NEW YORK — Tyrese was on cloud nine Monday night at B.B. King Blues Club & Grill, introducing his rapping alter ego, Black Ty, to a crowd of fans and celebrities. But on Tuesday, the R&B-singer-turned-actor was quickly brought down from his high and forced to reflect on a startling series of events. Among the people who came out to support him Monday night was none other than Fabolous. Ty said he was shocked when he heard the following day that Fab had been shot just hours after the concert (see "Fabolous Shot And Arrested In New York"). "I just heard this morning," Tyrese said Tuesday in the MTV News offices. "I was just with him. He was in my dressing room last night hanging out. He leaves my concert, goes to a restaurant, gets shot. Crazy. But that's what hip-hop is. Is it threatening, intimidating? Yeah. At times." Police are still investigating the Fabolous shooting, and although the Brooklyn MC did not suffer life-threatening injuries, his troubles are not over. On Tuesday he was officially charged with criminal possession of a weapon and possession of a defaced firearm (see "Fabolous Slapped With Two Weapon-Possession Charges"). As disturbing as it was for Ty to hear about his friend Fab, he was comforted by other news Tuesday via a call from Cassidy, who he considers a brother. The rapper, who was critically injured in a separate recent car accident, had been in a coma (see "Cassidy's Lawyer Says Rapper Is On 'Road To Recovery' After Crash"). Now, with his medical condition improving, Cass is alert. He says they spoke for two hours. "He feels like, within a year, so many horrible things have happened in his life, from the murder trial to now this accident," Tyrese explained. "So many things are going on in his life that the public don't know about, that I know about. And he's actually happy [the car crash] happened. He feels it's all a part of God's plan to make him a better man. "He said to me, 'Tyrese, it's crazy. Six people in the car, I'm the only one that got hurt, the only one that ended in a coma. That was supposed to happen,' " Tyrese added. "He's learning, he's mannin' up. He was like, 'When I get out, I'm gonna be at about 75 percent, but I'm coming out a whole 'nother man. I'mma be at 50 to 75 percent mentally, but I'm gonna be at 150 percent as a man.' So he's actually feeling like what he's going through, he's happy it happened. He's blessed. I never heard it put like that." Cassidy remains hospitalized. Meanwhile, Tyrese — who says he's the most determined man anyone will meet — presses on with his own career. His next project is called Alter Ego and is a double-LP featuring one disc of R&B selections and one consisting of nothing but raps from Black Ty (see "Tyrese Gives In To Rap Passion, Plans To 'Change The World' With Double LP"). The hip-hop side features friends such as Cassidy, Game, Snoop Dogg and Method Man. Meth appears on the single "Get It In," which was produced by Scott Storch. The song is a party record, and Ty says he's been lacking those in his catalog. "People don't dance to my R&B songs," he said. "Everything about what I'm doing is real spiritual," he said about his rapping side. "We pray before we rhyme. We keep everything humble. We don't be in the studio rappin' about who shot you, bustin' heads on the curb. I want to make hip-hop fun again. Everything is so dark." Ty — who also has a Black Ty mixtape on the streets called Ghetto Royalty — worked with the likes of Lil Jon and R. Kelly on the R&B half of Alter Ego. He has a single out as well, "One," in which he talks about settling down with one woman. Alter Ego comes out on December 19.

I was switchin' back and forth between watching that and the Mets game last night, I'm gonna check the re-run to see the full performances, I liked a lot of what I saw, btw I saw a commercial on VH1 about Ice-T hosting a reality series "Rap School" I believe it's called, I'm sure to be checking that out....

Well sadly I think there are many people that're gonna always think like that, his success in Hollywood has been the gift and the curse, it'd take him selling over 100 million albums to equal the massive success that his movies get, it shouldn't be that way at all, his Hollywood career has overshadowed his rap career but he shouldn't worry much about it, easy for me to say since I ain't in his shoes, the thing is though that all the criticism probably gets to him as much as I hope that it wouldn't 'cause if I was in that position I could how it might not be fun to rap much anymore 'cause whenever he raps he faces criticism, what's the point to rap if you're only rapping all the time against the criticism, that ain't fun, he's released a lot more classic albums than mostly every rapper ever has, he shouldn't have to prove anything at this point, he should get the recognition for what's he's done in the rap game already, how much does he have to do to get it? Releasing 9 albums selling over 30 million albums, basically creating a path for other rappers to expand their careers into acting, and winning the 1st rap grammy ever in a span of 20 years should be good enough already but people overlook that to a degree, he might get a lil' bit more respect after releasing "Lost and Found",there's more hate than love still since he ain't thugged out like the other popular rappers it might be hard for some to accept him and there's really this backlash to a lot of older rappers for some reason by fans, record labels, and even some younger rappers which is sad to say, Rhymefest talks about this in his blog on SOHH.com btw,there shouldn't be a clock for greatness, rappers should be able to go as long as they want to, since majority of the rap consumers are younger they seem to only want to hear from rappers closer to their age which doesn't make sense, I'm discusted of my generation quite a bit, personally I don't give a damn if the artist is 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, or 70 years old, if that artist makes good music I support, I ain't gonna stop trying to get in the game either no matter how long it takes either... Being in the spotlight that long he desires to be loved for what he does, listen to "Could You Love Me" and you understand what he means, it's probably more fun to do movies 'cause he don't receive much criticism, people all ages and walks of life appreciate a good movie but it's really hard for certain people to accept a good rap album,we all could relate to that 'cause in our lives we want to do something that people'll appreciate and if we don't see people appreciating us for it we might not want to do that job anymore, Will probably gave up rapping for a while after "Code Red" 'cause he put a lot of work into album just as much as his earlier JJFP albums but because rap's image changed people didn't check for it, really though whenever he put work on his movies he'd get more and more recognition, if "Lost and Found" was a movie it'd been the biggest of his career but with music it ain't like that, it's all image more than anything which is sad, he put out an album better than a lot of the thugged out and younger rappers and it deserved to outsell all of them, Game says on his single about older rappers "You're 38 and still rappin'? Uhhhh", when in reality one bar from 38 year old Will Smith is better than his whole career's worth, but hey that's ok when he gets to Will's age 10 years from now he'll go through the same thing from some other younger and I'm sure he won't like that either, that's if he still has a career left, with the way the rap industry's going who knows if it'll even be around in a few years, people're losing interest in it, throwing the pioneers out the door is ultimately what's gonna end it I believe, if the older generation ain't there to lead it'll become disorganised, like my man fuq says "Some of my past will stay with me in the future", that's what the rap game needs to do to survive, we can't forget our past, need to keep it in our present.... The thing about the rap game that really hurts it's image is that there's talented rappers like FP who get dissed 'cause they ain't hardcore enough, not saying that hardcore rappers ain't talented but the point is that you could do a movie and image doesn't matter, only the performance does, that's what should matter the most but it ain't that way it seems, as a fan it's dissapointing to see fans argue over who is the hardest rapper rather than focus on who's the most talented, on top of that as an up and coming artist like myself it hurts me to know that most of the rappers from my generation that're rapping about selling drugs'll get a record deal faster than the ones like me that're writing songs with positive messages to them even if they all have the same amount of skills, Kel Spencer didn't blow up yet not 'cause he don't have skills but 'cause he don't fit in with what the industry wants, if FP was 18 years old and coming up now in 2006 he'd probably have to go to college and not decide to rap 'cause he wouldn't make it now even with his up and coming classic albums he's was working with Jazzy Jeff would be fire, it shouldn't be that way, when Will first came into the rap game fans were more open minded than they are now and it was strictly about who had the most skills to get on, that's why the fans who're around his age might not listen much to rap anymore either or say rap is dying from the way that really there's no appreciation for the history, the public might sleep on Will as a rapper but they know him as an actor but there are some pioneers like Kurtis Blow where the public don't even know who he is if you ask them, it's better to be known for something than nothing, no appreciation for the music anymore or the history....

We gotta wait a couple more weeks... http://www.amazon.com/Hip-Hop-Forever-Vol-...ie=UTF8&s=music

"Some of my past will stay with me in the future" Yeah our past really could be helpful for the future, it's like that cliche of how history repeats itself, certain experiences that we go through in the past are things that are used to bring a stronger future, true words my friend