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Yeah I agree with that JJFP ain't finished yet, no offense to anybody there but a lot of those who get honored basically are finished with their careers it seems, except for like Ice Cube, LL, KRS, and a couple others that did get honored

That they missed out on a lot of great music between "Code Red" and "Lost and Found', FP never fell off, the fans sold out on him and left the bandwagon, he didn't sell out on them, he still "All That" you could say....

Janet Jackson Gets At Justin On Oprah Show By: Mariel Concepción September 26, 2006 While promoting her 20 Y.O. album, Janet Jackson stopped by the very-selective Oprah Winfrey Show yesterday (Sept. 25th), and lightly lashed out at former "Nipple-Gate-er", Justin Timberlake. Comment Janet told Oprah that Timberlake left her to fend for self after the infamous "wardrobe malfunction" during the Superbowl. "Justin has reached out, but we haven't spoken," she explained. "Friendship is very important, and certaint things you just don't do to friends. In my own time, I'll give him a call." Janet's 20 Y.O. album hits stores today.

VH1 showing no love for JJFP again? They played "Switch" a lot more than BET and MTV combined it seemed

Spankin' Free LP Preview: Snoop Reunites With Dre, Improves Macking Mojo On Tha Blue Carpet Treatment 09.26.2006 6:01 AM EDT Collaboration with cousin Brandy also on November 21 LP. Snoop Dogg at his Crippin' Kitchen studio Photo: MTV News HOLLYWOOD — Call it Tha Doggfather: Part II. When Snoop Dogg returns to record stores November 21, the rapper will be back in full-on gangsta mode. "There's a certain fanbase that really loves the Pacino in me, the "Normally, I don't make records for the ladies because I like being real derogatory towards the women, but I've been getting a little older and wiser." — Snoop 'Scarface,' the Michael Corleone," Snoop explained recently. "They love that role. And I gotta give them what they love." And how does he know? "I just started asking people, 'What do y'all like from Snoop?' " he said. "And everybody just liked that gangsta sh--. Not that they don't love when I do venture and try different things, and do pop singles and do songs with Pharrell ... but they prefer me to be that [gangsta] character." And so for the official follow-up to 2004's R&G (Rhythm & Gangsta): The Masterpiece, Snoop is returning to his roots. "I'm back in the game again, as far as aggressively representing West Coast music, because I feel like we invisible right now," Snoop said during a break from work at his Crippin' Kitchen studio ("That's where we be cooking that gangsta music," he explained) in Hollywood. "So what I did was make a record where we could actually, like, open up a blue carpet for the young rappers and the old rappers from the West Coast to walk the lane and to be a part of my record," he said. Hence the album's actual title, Tha Blue Carpet Treatment. "I went to an awards ceremony and they was like, 'Snoop, we want you on the red carpet, '" the rapper said. "And I was like, 'I'm tired of walking on the damn red carpet.' "I want to walk on some blue carpet.' And it just came to me." The album introduces a couple of new groups Snoop has put together — Westurn Union and the Warzone — but also unites him with some of the West Coast's top rappers, including the Game (on a track called "Gang Banging 101"), Ice Cube and Cypress Hill's B Real. Most noteworthy, however, is that mentor Dr. Dre is back behind the boards on a few tracks. "I need him to be there for me," Snoop said. " 'Cause the people, they become addicted to hit records, and when I'm with Dr. Dre, we make hit records." This time, though, their partnership was different. "I'm focused on making songs, and back then I used to just rap," Snoop said of earlier collaborations with Dre, like his 1993 debut Doggystyle. "And now when I work with Dre, he don't let me do that no more. He don't just let me go in there and freestyle anymore. It takes, like, three days to make one song with that n---a, 'cause he be wanting every word to be right. I can't knock him, but sh--. I remember when I used to come in here and just la la la la boom bam and just do it." One of the tracks the two worked on together is called "Imagine," which envisions what their lives would be like if their hip-hop careers never took off. "It's deep; it's heavy," Snoop said. "We just wanted to make a record that wasn't such a party record or a dance record. We wanted a record that makes you think." Tha Blue Carpet Treatment's first single, "Vato," featuring B Real, is also a thoughtful tune, "trying to unite the black and the brown on the West Coast," Snoop said of the track that addresses violence between blacks and Hispanics in Los Angeles (see "Snoop Reclaims His Old Doggystyle, Goes Gangsta For 'Vato' Video"). "Pharrell brought that idea to me," Snoop said of the song's producer. "He's also got a song on my record called 'Special' that he did for me with Brandy. Brandy's my first cousin. We never really told the world because we weren't trippin' off of that, but that's my family." Other unexpected collaborators include Young Jeezy and Ne-Yo, who produced a track called "Put This Thing on You." "Normally, I don't make records for the ladies because I like being real derogatory towards the women, but I've been working with Pharrell and getting a little older and wiser," Snoop said. "So what I did on that record was I went and got one of the specialists at making songs for the ladies, 'cause I'm kind of, like, lacking on my macking." Along with Dre and longtime collaborator Battlecat, Tha Blue Carpet Treatment also reunites Snoop with Timbaland. The pair first worked together on a remix of "Doggfather" in 1996. "I played him 'Vato' and he was like, 'Ah,' and he put headphones on and he went into a little mood and came up with something," Snoop recalled of the Timbaland-produced "I Need a Light." "I went outside [of a Miami studio] and was chillin' with Method Man and Lil Wayne. I came back in there and he was like, 'I got something.' So I freestyled to it and the first thing I said was 'I need a light/ Get it right.' " The track Snoop is most excited about, however, is one with up-and-coming producer Frequency and called "Think About It." "I rap like before I got with Dre, before I got in the game," Snoop said. "I didn't really trip off no concept. I don't really, like, focus on making no hooks, I don't really want no singing on it, I don't really wanna say anything that's too political, or say anything that's too fun. "I just wanna express what's on my heart." — Corey Moss, with reporting by Liz Hernandez

Well that clears it up, that'd be weak for them to do that since it was their fault that he didn't sell, hopefully this is a wake up call for them to get it together and give their artists promotion if they want to profit, if they want to keep Method Man, they need to promote him, and basically like it was said earlier they're getting rid a lot of the artists that basically brought them big profit for many years for a bunch of one hit wonders, I don't think any of these artists that're signing there are gonna have that long careers, it's watered down music, not smart buisiness...

I think DMX outsold Ja Rule between '98-'03,all 5 of his albums on Def Jam debuted at #1 and they all went at least platinum, Ja Rule's first few albums sold platinum plus but his last couple went around gold, Columbia ain't really helping DMX much either but at least he got his album out there now which Def Jam didn't want to do, he left there and got his album out, if he was still there he probably wouldn't come out yet, ... I think going independent might be the best for a lot of these rappers, it's working for Ice Cube, his album went gold recently through his own imprint, maybe The Roots and Method Man would have more success doing that...

AAAAHHHH!!!!! I hate you! At first I could just see "JJFP (title TBA)", Not the year or "just Playing"! I did that to see if anybody was reading my post :interesting:

Yeah Rakim needs to put the past behind him, if he's such an all time mc, he needs to bring some heat in the present, he's more just a '80s/90s hip-hop legend, it's sorta unfair that more active mcs from his era like Chuck D, LL, KRS, FP, and even Freddie Foxxx here are still going strong today and they don't get the credit that Rakim does when he hasn't done anything in such a while, people talk about Rakim like it's still '86 but he ain't untouchable, he needs to quit talking trash in interviews and just drop his damn album already, he needs to drop a hot album now to show that he's the rap god that people claim him to be

Snoop Dogg Helps LA Youth "Get Their Money Right" Monday - September 25, 2006 by Jolene "foxxylady" Petipas Snoop Dogg, Too $hort, Tyrese, and Bone Thugs-N-Harmony will all come out to support Russell Simmons' "Get Your Money Right" financial literacy and empowerment tour when it holds its summit in Los Angeles this weekend. Simmons, who serves as chairman of the Hip-Hop Summit Action Network (HSAN), launched the national tour in 2005 to speak to young adults and community members about the importance of financial literacy. This year's "Get Your Money Right" tour kicked off in April in Detroit and has already made stops in Miami, Atlanta ,and New York. The Los Angeles Summit will take place on Saturday, September 30 at the University of Southern California's Bovard Auditorium on 1:30 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. PST. The aforementioned artists along with financial experts will gave attendees advice on home ownership, budgets, credit cards, home ownership and other financial matters. "Hip-Hop on the West Coast is as strong as ever," explained HSAN President/CEO, Dr. Benjamin Chavis via a statement. "The Los Angeles Hip-Hop Summit focuses on the opportunities to better understand the importance of financial literacy and empowerment. We will celebrate all of the good work being done throughout the city by many grassroots organizations, as well as pay tribute to the growth and expansion of hip-hop culture throughout Los Angeles." Other artists and celebrities excepted to attend the summit include MC Lyte, Melyssa Ford, Yo-Yo, Chingo Bling, Kid Frost, actress Taraji Henson and NBA Los Angeles Lakers forward Lamar Odom. Sponsored by Chrysler Financial and Anheuser-Busch, the tour will also be making stops in Dallas on October 14 in and October 28 in Toronto, Canada.

Yeah Method Man said that he wanted to go indpendent, so he got he wish I guess, he wanted to get out of the sinking ship, the Roots will probably be following him out the door soon as well, Def Jam is now a pop label, the real artists are gonna leave there if Jay-Z don't get the pink slip soon enough, he better release Nas' album or else he'll get "Ether"'d again, lol....

I heard that this album might outsell Chingy's album so this is a good sign for hip-hop, about time that a real artist sells

Well the reason why Freddie Foxxx got so upset here is 'cause Rakim was talking slick about him in an interview

Yeah that's what I been saying, it's what the kids want but I think that there could be a more broader audience if there was more balance out there, there are people out there that do want to buy music with substance but they don't know that it's out there 'cause they see a bunch of crap on TV and on the radio and they feel alienated and turn it off, if Jay-Z really wanted respect he'd at least put more effort, that's all I'm asking for, he's in the position as an artist who knows the way the industry works, he shouldn't just cave in and be like "what the hell, this is what sells even though it ain't that good but i'm gonna put it out there" when he promotes somebody like Rick Ross,he should at least get the Roots to release their video to the TV, they went platinum a few years ago, he shouldn't just give in and say "ah the Roots ain't gonna sell so why even promote it?", and dropping a great mc like Method Man throws all integrity out the door, he should be dropping Jeezy, Def Jam has always been a label that had credability for getting classic music to a mainstream level, now it's just another pop label :sick: :sick:

Jay-Z shows that he don't give a damn about the art of hip-hop, why'd he promote garbage rap from Rick Ross and Young Jeezy and not show any support to real creative artists like Method Man and The Roots? Tell me why man, tell me why? As an artist that's been in the game for a while like Jay-Z you figure maybe he'd push a lil' harder to get the type of hip-hop that should be out there to the top where it should be but obviously he don't think like that, he's just promoting the same dime-a-dozen rap that's already out there 24/7, Nas at Columbia couldn't get the shine he deserved 'cause he wasn't promoted that well on the most part, he just puts out music from his heart, he never really complained that much about that, the fans did the complaining for him basically 'cause we wanna see the real artists shine, not these fake rappers... Jay-Z hogs the spotlight but like KRS once said "mcs are just hopeless/thinkin' record sales make them the dopest", his career's hype but there are quite a bit of mcs that could take him on... It's just sad that the one with the most money is considered the best, Jazzy Jeff once said that in an interview about how the rap game went from who has the most skills to has the most riches and that is wack, skills should be what matters most, it ain't all Jay-Z fault, it's the rap industry in general, but Jay-Z ain't using his position to help so he's part of the problem, no matter how much of a fan of his you are, you have to see that....

What Jay-Z is doing is wrong here, now what I said about why he signed Nas is ringing true, to make sure Nas won't outshine him, that's some diva **** if you ask me, I hope that Nas comes out in December, he might just keep getting pushed back like Redman for all we know, one month, two months later, to five years later :damnlorettas: Wtf were they expecting Method Man to do if his video didn't come out with not many people knowing that his album was out? LL didn't really flop either, his video was getting played on TRL and it went gold which is like platinum in most other years 'cause people don't buy albums like they used to, even pop singers are struggling to sell big units, LL made those comments to Jay-Z 'cause he's sticking for real hip-hop, not necessarily 'cause of his album being promoted 'cause he don't care about that really, he cares about the genre of hip-hop, that's what he's doing it for, he's been at Def Jam since the beginning and he sees it going to the toilet... I really thought that when Jay-Z originally signed Nas and The Roots that he was gonna give them the opportunity to get the type of recognition on a major level that they deserved but it appears that he justs wants it all to himself since he gave The Roots promotion that they would've gotten on an underground label and pushes back Nas' album to make sure that his album could sell, Jay-Z has lost all credability to me, he's a selfish sellout...

I started a "Will Smith Appreciation Thread" in the okayplayer board, maybe somebody could start one at the IllCommunity, just to get some peeps to show some love on the legend's b-day

http://blogs.sohh.com/ya_heard/archives/20...d_man_gets.html My sources are telling me that Method Man has been dropped from Def Jam and the official word will be out soon. Reason? You guessed it. Low album sales. Now I don't know if the lack of promotion was Meth's fault or the label's, but I do know somebody slept on their promotion job for this new album of his. I wouldn't be surprised if the label purposely didn't promote the album so they can ax him with good reason. Y'all know Meth has been running his mouth about the folks over at Def Jam and they may have just gotten fed up with it. So if this info does ring true, who will Meth end up signing with? Not many labels are willing to put up with ****-talking artists, but having a beast like Meth on your label could prove to be a very valuable investment. And there's not many labels who dedicate the same kind of time and effort to true hip hop that they dedicate to hip hop with a pop edge. Decisions, decisions. Nas @ the Boost Mobile Concert this weekend at Radio City Music Hall Here we go again. Sources are reporting that Nas' album release date will no longer be Nov. 14th, as planned. The new release date is supposedly Dec. 19th. Are we really surprised? Since Jay's album release date is still Nov. 21st, I'm not. All you Nas fans will just have to wait another month or so. This may be for the best, though. I hear Nas doesn't even have a single ready to push or any other publicity deals in the works yet. Damn shame.

LL could do a verse aimed at Jay-Z turning the biggest label in hip-hop history into a pop label, I don't think many would vote for Jay-Z if this poll was held today 'cause clearly he's one of the lost in hip-hop, those of us who said FP should go to Def Jam wouldn't say that now either, he promotes garbage rappers like Rick Ross and drops Method Man, I ain't even feelin' like checking for his coming out retirement album, it'll probably be some pop garbage anyway, Jay-Z' a sellout, he's using his power for his own benefit...

Yeah I think it'd be better for hip-hop if they got together and recorded tracks instead of making beef songs, being from the older era of hip-hop they need to be setting example for the up and coming mcs

It seems like mostly everyone that 50 wants to work with/sign is people that he has help him in his battles, that's why I'll be surprised if he don't try to get LL to get involved in his beef, in fact just seeing LL come out and saying that he's upset at Jay-Z as president of Def Jam is sorta out of character for him, usually LL won't come out and call out somebody like that, 50's been sorta been saying for years that he's trying to take Jigga's throne, he's probably using LL to help him get there, Game crushed 50 so 50's running for help again, 50 can't stand on his own...

I checked out Def Jam's site and they don't mention Redman's album coming out next week or anytime soon, it probably won't come out until Jigga leaves his Def Jam CEO post the way it's looking, anyway here's what I'm checking for: September 26 Janet Jackson - 20 Y.O. October 3 Mad Skillz - Mad Skillz Monica - The Making of Me(hopefully nothing on that album is like that wack single with the snap boys) Stic.man (of Dead Prez) & Young Noble (of Tha Outlawz) - Soldier 2 Soldier October 10 Mos Def - Tru3 Magic October 17 CL Smooth - American Me DJ Jazzy Jeff - Hip-Hop Forever III Ron Artest - My World(psyche, but then again he's probably better than some of these rappers listed here, lol) October 24- my wallet could recouperate, lol October 31 Flavor Flav - Flavor Man(Yeahhh Boyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!) November 7 Nas - Hip-Hop Is Dead … The N Talib Kweli - Ear Drum November 14(the week I'll go broke, lol) Brian McKnight - 10(this is really his 10th album, who woulda knew?) Fantasia - (title TBA)(probably won't come out if ain't titled but I'll check for it if it does, love her first album) Fat Joe - Me, Myself & I Game, The - The Doctor’s Advocate November 21 Jay-Z - Kingdom Come(if it's like Jay-Z 1996-1998 yes, Jay-Z 1999-present on the most part, probably not) Snoop Dogg - The Blue Carpet Treatment(he's getting back with Dre on this album so this could be big) November 2006 Black Ty (a.k.a. Tyrese) - Alter Ego (Double-CD) Fall 2006-probably most listed there won't come out, Slick Rick hasn't mentioned anything about working on a new album in such a while December 19 Foxy Brown - Black Roses December 26 GangStarr - Mass Appeal: Best Of GangStarr(late stocking stuffer?) December 2006 2Pac - (title TBA)(if somebody worthy produces on it I'll check for it, it's time to let the man rest in peace and not mess up his legacy) Late/Winter 2006(now this is reaching off now, they might be listed to come out at this time next year), but if any come out I'll be checking: Arrested Development - Since The Last Time Chilli (of TLC) - (title TBA) DJ Clue? - The Professional Pt. 3 EMC (Masta Ace, Wordsworth, Punchline & Strick) - Four Brothers Fugees, The - Reconciliation(Wyclef said that his solo album'll come out first so it's probably a good year away at least) Kool G. Rap - Grand Finale(haven't heard anything about him since he said he was going to G-Unit last year, might be a long wait until he comes back) LL Cool J - Todd Smith, Part 2: Back To Cool(well I expressed my thoughts enough on this one in other threads) A-Plus - My Last Good Deed Def Squad - (title TBA) Diamond D - Needful Things Digable Planets - (title TBA) KRS-One - The Lost Album Souls of Mischief - Machine Language Spliff Star - Beyond Redemption January 9 Sqad Up - We Here Now January 2007 Civilrings - I Crooked I - B.O.S.S. (Beginning Of Something Serious) February 13 C-Murder - Screaming 4 Vengeance February 2007 GhostDoom (Ghostface & MF Doom) - Swift & Changeable Kelly Rowland - My Story: Kelly Rowland Massive Attack - Weather Underground Royce Da 5′9 & DJ Premier - (title TBA) March 20 Evidence (of Dilated Peoples) - The Weatherman March 2007 Amerie - None Of The Above Bishop Lamont - The Reformation April 2007 Common - Finding Forever Early/Spring 2007 Black Thought & Danger Mouse - Dangerous Thoughts Brandy - (title TBA) Dead Prez - (title TBA) De La Soul - (title TBA) Erykah Badu - (title TBA) Eve - (title TBA) Ja Rule - Love Is Pain Kanye West - Graduation KRS-One & Marley Marl - (title TBA) Malik B. - Psychoanalysis Maxwell - Black Summer’s Night Papoose - The Nacirema Dream Quan - Until My Death Rakim - The Seventh Seal Talib Kweli & Madlib - The Liberation Summer 2007 Dr. Dre - Detox(Wasn't this supposed to come out when "Born To Reign" did?) Reflection Eternal (Talib Kweli & Hi-Tek) - (title TBA) Wyclef Jean - The Second Wind Late/Winter 2007 Michael Jackson - (title TBA) Various Artists - Think Differently Music Vol. 2 2007 Alicia Keys - (title TBA) Andre Benjamin - Kind of Black: Benjamin on Davis(well hopefully he does a lil' rappin' on this one, I don't think I could stomach another full length "Love Below" type album) DJ Premier - A Man of Few Words (would be even more excited if it was a Gangstarr reunion) Ice Cube - (title TBA)(it'd be surprising to him release albums every year again but hey if he keeps droppin' heat like "Laugh Now, Cry Later", why not?) India.Arie - Testimony Vol. 2: Love & Politics J Dilla - All I.D. Jean Grae & 9th Wonder - The Phoenix Jin - I Promise(I thought he retired?, lol) Kanye West - A Good Ass Job KRS-One - Adventures In Emceein’ Lauryn Hill - Khulami Phase(she hasn't really done anything in a long time) MC Lyte - Back To The Future Method Man & Redman - Blackout 2: B.A.S.I.C. (Bricks And Staten Island Connected)(maybe if they release it somewhere other than Def Jam it'll come out) Mos Def & Madlib - (title TBA) Nas - The Lost Tapes 2(why is this taking so long to come out? this should've came out a lil' while after "Street's Disciple" to hold fans over until "Hip-Hop Is Dead", Columbia sucks) Outkast - The Hard 10 Pete Rock - Soul Survivor III Public Enemy - How You Sell Soul To A Soulless People That Sold Their Soul(On PE.com, Chuck D says it'll be out next summer) Q-Tip - Live At The Renaissance Quincy Jones - (title TBA)(he still making albums?) R. Kelly - Making Babies Wu-Tang Clan - (title TBA) 2008 Black Star - (title TBA) Eminem - (title TBA 2018 DJ Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince (title TBA) Just playing :stickpoke:

I got a good offer on ebay last week for this album and I'm waiting for it to arrive soon in my mail and I'll drop the feedback when I get it, I think I made a thread about the album coming out last week but it got ignored mostly

Yeah this could wake the sleeping giant, this would be an entertaining battle, Freddie Foxx is nasty on the mic, Rakim's gonna have to give his best effort in this one

http://www.mtv.com/bands/m/mixtape_monday/...?headlines=true Someone is getting ready to do the absolutely unthinkable: call Rakim out on a record by name. It's not going to be anything like the subliminal sparring that was rumored to be going on between Rakim and Big Daddy Kane in the '80s. This person is going to dis the God, one of the greatest MCs ever. Who has enough courage to do so? None other than Mr. Fearless himself, Freddie Foxxx a.k.a. Bumpy Knuckles. The song is called "The King Is Down" and appears on his new LP, Amerikkkan Black Man. "I will eat Rakim's ass alive on any record, any stage," Bumpy Knuckles asserted recently. "When I finish with him, every bit of legendary status he had is gonna go out the window. I swear on everything I stand on, I will eat that n---a alive, bar by bar. I'll tell him to his muthaf---in' face." So now you're gasping for air, and wondering why Freddie — a legendary hip-hop figure in his own right, who's earned respect for street pedigree as well as rap skills — is going at Ra. Well according to Foxxx, it goes back to the '80s in Wyandanch, New York, where Foxxx's rap team Supreme Force used to be competitive with Ra's team the Love Brothers. This was pre-Eric B. and Rakim. "We got a history, you know. We got a real long history," Foxxx explained. "We from the same part of town. Ra has always had an attitude towards me that he was better than me — on the mic and more successful. How dare he think he can out-rhyme me. He has one style, that's all he's ever had." What really got Foxxx upset, he said, was a Q&A with Rakim he read on hip-hop Web site Halftime Online. Rakim was asked about a battle that supposedly took place back in the day between the Love Brothers and Supreme Force squad. "I never f---ing turned down a battle with that muthaf---er!" Rakim is quoted as saying. "Foxxx wasn't ferocious like that. Foxxx had two other cats that used to rhyme with him. They were a good group, but Foxxx wasn't ferocious like that baby pa." "I read the article and it set me off," Foxxx said. "He said I'm 'not ferocious.' How dare he? His ego kicked in. I said I'm gonna let the world who he really is. People are only calling him a legend because of what he did with Eric B. Everything after that was wack. Nobody will say it to his face." Foxxx said he's not sure when the dis record will be coming out, but his LP is slated for sometime in February. WWE champion John Cena and Talib Kweli rap on a record called "Give it to the A&R," while the Alchemist, Pete Rock, DJ Scratch and DJ Premier produced a myriad of the records. "I'm too old to be chasing publicity," Foxxx said when asked if he really has a legitimate gripe with Rakim or if he's just doing it for hype for his album. "I don't need the publicity. I ain't no hater. But when I see he's so quick to always shoot me in the foot, enough is enough. Why would I want to get recognition on Rakim? He's nothing to me. Y'all see him differently than I do. On the song, I never called his name. We used to call him 'Pop' back in the day. I don't call him 'Rakim' on the record, I call him 'Pop.' " Bumpy Knuckles also said he dares Rakim to come back at him on wax. "Turn your mic on, B," he said defiantly. "I want him to put me in my place." Rakim is on tour and could not be reached for comment.