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Yeah I think if it was 100% JJFP album it'd be a better quality album than having a million guests on it, maybe they could work with a few artists on remixes or b-sides though and maybe do a tour with a few of them...

This is not Trina the rapper, this Trina is a singer: http://launch.yahoo.com/ar-290655-bio--Trina--Tamara The sisters of R&B singer Jesse Powell, urban duo Trina and Tamara hailed from Gary, IN; the Powells relocated to Philadelphia in 1983, and there all four siblings -- as well as their mother Emerald -- performed in the family group Sheer Joy. When Jesse headed for Los Angeles in 1990, Trina and Tamara followed, and established themselves as session vocalists; as members of the group Something for the People, the sisters also scored a hit in 1997 with "My Love Is the Shhh.." Signing to Columbia, the duo released their self-titled debut album in mid-1999. ~ Jason Ankeny, All Music Guide

"Willenium" is such a masterpiece of an album, a great blend of ol' school and new school hip-hop all in one disc, I think if JJFP got together soon and made another album it'd be probably the best ever 'cause they seem to improve in time...

Yeah this is perfect timing for a JJFP album to come out, commercial rap fans are getting tired of gimmicks from all these wack pop rappers, a new JJFP album could be a breath of fresh air for the genre, fingers crossed that this'll happen within the next year or so...

Source mentioned "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" among the 100 greatest rap albums in their 10th anniversary issue back in '98, I don't know how many mics they gave it, it was probably one of the first albums that they rated since the magazine started the same year as that album came out...

Yeah 3 mics is a solid rating, I wonder how many mics "Willenium", "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper", and "Code Red" have gotten, now if those albums didn't get more than 3 mics it'd be a crime 'cause those are classic albums...

Well there's a lot of great lists here, some of those CDs y'all mentioned I might look into myself, great topic to start... Lately I've been working on building up my album catalogue a bit more, I always try to browse around for good prices to buy albums but the most convient way for me to buy music at a good value is to get it at bmgmusicservice.com, they got a lot of clearance values all the time, if anyone's interested in joining that music club send me a pm and I could get free CDs for helping you join the club and you'll get free CDs for joining theclub, lol... Anyways I think this is great to be talking about what we like instead of what we don't like...Here's a handful of compilation/soundtrack albums that I like a lot: Grandmaster Flash And The Furious Five, SugarHill Gang "The Showdown" Krush Groove Soundtrack Juice Soundtrack Do The Right Thing Soundtrack Nutty Professor Soundtrack Men In Black Soundtrack Wild Wild West Soundtrack Any Given Sunday Soundtrack Friday Soundtrack Next Friday Soundtrack Friday After Next Soundtrack Bad Boys Soundtrack, I didn't like Bad Boys II soundtrack that much except for a couple songs Profilin' The Hits Jazzy Jeff "The Magnificent" Ruff Ryders "Ryde Or Die Volume One"/"Ryde Or Die Volume 2" Funkmaster Flex and Big Kapp "The Tunnel" DJ Clue "The Professional Pt. One"/"The Professional Pt. Two" DJ Kay Slay "Streetsweeper Volume One", I don't like Volume Two that much but that LL track "The Truth" alone made it worth the purchase Hip-Hop Essentials(I found this in a clearance bin a couple months ago at a music store fpr $6, it even has JJFP's "Parents Don't Understand" on here along with a lot of other tracks from the golden era from the late '80s to mid '90s) And a few other albums that I like a lot but forgot to mention yesterday: Chuck D "Autobiography Of Mistachuck"(another slept on dope album from the mid-90s) BB Jay "Universal Concussion"(gospel rap at it's finest) Big Pun- "Capital Punishment", "Yeah Baby"(shows all the potential he had for being on top of the rap game for many years to come, sucka mcs like wack rapper #1 and wack rapper #2 wouldn't be eating so well if he were still alive)

That was a great read, 3 mics is considered good, with all the great things that's said in that review there you'd thought that they gave it 4 mics which is superior or 5 mics which is the highest ranking of a classic album, it's sorta misleading...

I think it's only a matter of time, I'm not gonna get too excited yet until more news comes in but this raises the optimism a lil' bit, JJFP forever! :kool:

Too many to name, like Concept I'll probably name some without mention JJFP/Big Will 'cause I mention those enough already, off the top of my head forgetting some, I'll have to go through my CD collection to find some that I really enjoy, I try to play different stuff all the time: LL-"Mr. Smith", "Mama Said Knock You Out", "G.O.A.T.", "Radio" DMX-"It's Dark And Hell Is Hot", "The Great Depression", "And Then There Was X" KRS-"Return Of Da Boom Bap", "Kristyles", "I Got Next" Nas-"God's Son"(not considered his best by many but it's a personal favorite of mine), "Illmatic", "Street's Disciple" Public Enemy-"There's A Poison Goin' On"(again not considered the best to many but I love this one the most), "It Takes A Nation Of Millions", "Yo! Bum Rush The Show" Rakim-"Paid In Full", "18th Letter" Queen Latifah-"Black Reign" 2Pac-"2Pacalypse Now", "All Eyez On Me" Heavy D and The Boyz-"Nuttin' But Love", "Peaceful Journey" Naughty By Nature-"Poverty's Paradise", "Nineteen Naughty Nine-Nature's Fury", "iicons" Ice Cube-"Amerikka's Most Wanted", "Lethal Injection" Dr. Dre-"The Chronic" Talib Kweli-"Reflection Eternal", "Beautiful Struggle" Common-"Like Water For Chocolate", "Resurrection", "Electric Circus"(people hate on this album but it was very creative in my opinion, I like it much better than the last one produced by overhyped rapper #1, ?uestlove's production is much superior) Run-Dmc-"Raising Hell", "Tougher Than Leather", "Down With The King" Pete Rock and CL Smooth "Mecca And The Soul Brother" Slick Rick-"The Great Adventures Of Slick Rick", "The Art Of Storytellin" Outkast-"Stankonia", "Atliens" Busta Rhymes-"ELE", "When Disaster Strikes" Wyclef-"The Carnival", "Masquerade", "Eceleftic: Two Sides To A Book" Fugees-"The Score" Redman-"Dare Iz A Darkside", Method Man/Redman "The Blackout" The Roots-"Things Fall Apart", "Illadelphalflife" Aceyalone "All Balls Don't Bounce" MC Hammer-"Too Legit To Quit", "Hammer Please Don't Hurt 'Em", "Funky Headhunter"(people hate 'cause it had a harder style for him but it's definately a quality album) Fat Joe-"Represent"(this album never gets the props it deserves but it was definately one of the top albums from the mid-90s), "Don Cartegena" Tribe Called Quest-"Low End Theory" Salt-N-Pepa "Very Necassary" Foxy Brown-"Ill Na Na", "Broken Silence" Snoop Dogg-"Doggystyle", "Doggfather", "Paid The Cost To Be The Boss" De La Soul-"Stakes Is High", "De La Soul Is Dead", "The Grind Date" Ja Rule-"VenniVetti Vecci", "Rule 3:36" Jay-Z-"Reasonable Doubt", "Volume 2: Hard Knock Life" The Game "The Documentary"

Well the thing is that 'cause JJFP weren't really doing any pro-black songs like the hardcore rappers were doing at the time so that's why NWA was saying that JJFP sold out since they were doing party songs instead of songs dissing the police or the government, the hardcore rappers like NWA wanted to take rap away from that fun image that was there in the early '80s and make it more rebellious, but in reality JJFP has never left the black community behind since they continually opened up doors to get black artists bigger respect in entertainment so it'd be foolish to still diss them now and saying that they sold out on the black community that's why hardcore rappers like Ice Cube coming out to show love now, it's great to see that Ice Cube's acknowledging Will here, he's one of my favorite rappers ever, his new album "Laugh Now, Cry Later" is exceptional...

Well as time goes on people grow, there's a lot of things that we say when we're younger that we might not mean now, it's not being hypocritical, it's maturing, Ice Cube probably was able to understand that Will was real brotha once he got to know him, and as far as Dr. Dre, he was just backing up Em there 'cause that's his artist on his label 'cause if Will ended Em's career Dre would lose money, if Em was my artist and I was in Dre's position I'd probably do the same thing, lol, I don't think Dre really got any hard feelings towards Will though either...

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.ns...2244_14_06_2006 "WILL SMITH and I are cool... When I do a movie, he'll send a gift basket with a note, and I do the same for him." Rapper ICE CUBE on his Hollywood acquaintances.

My point exactly, 50 Cent and a lot of these pop rappers don't exist to me, I'd rather talk about how much I'm feeling Ice Cube's album instead...

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Yeah AJ when we keep talking about 50 and these garbage rappers ruining rap we're keeping their careers alive, they need to do stupid **** like this to draw attention 'cause their songs ain't good enough to do that, there are great rappers out there worth talking about instead, people need to pay attention to the music and stop getting caught up in this WWE fabrication...

Tyrese is gonna have to really suck to be an embarassment considering how many wack mcs are out

It's just unfortunate how all these weak rappers get so much publicity from the media and the fans buy into them like sheep, the fans need to step up and not except everything the radio feeds them, they deserve a lot of the blame, they ignore the great rappers, and of course the media don't give much shine to the great rappers anymore... btw speaking of album ratings we all know that "Lost and Found" got 3 mics from The Source but I'm curious to know how many mics did Big Willie Style get? Willenium? Code Red? Homebase? etc?, do you have any idea AJ since you're like the human hip-hop encyclopedia on here so I figure you might know...

This topic has been beaten to death on this forum, you could do a search and probably find a million topics on it, Will never really cared about what Eminem said about him in the "Real Slim Shady" in 2000 'cause he figured that Eminem would fade away in a few years since he was using gimmicks to sell albums... I think he just made "Mr. Nice Guy" to let people know not to take his kindness for granted, he wanted to show people that he didn't want to be involved with a silly beef, and he mentioned Eminem in the song 'cause he's grown some respect for him since he realised that Eminem's still standing today with his career, the way I see it he just mentioned to the interviewers that he had something for Eminem so that people would check for it and understand the message he was trying to get across in that song, he said to them in the interviewers specially that it wasn't about starting beef, Will used that strategy 'cause he sees how the game has turned into the WWE where people only check for the fabricated drama, but you know he wouldn't win over many fans unless he decided to stoop down to Eminem's level and call him a fag in a song, lol... I think the media and the fans overexaggerate things sometimes, Eminem never responded so obviously he got respect for Will, you gotta understand that Eminem really makes fun of himself too in his songs so it's like you can't really take most of what he says to heart, end of discussion...

Well looks like since "Lost and Found" came out we've been seeing JJFP/Big Will getting more credit from the hip-hop media than ever before: "When you talk about rap you better start saying my name", although they gave Lil' Kim's album more mics than "Lost and Found" last year and they mention her instead of Will for 2005 since I guess going to jail now has more influence than putting out great albums but still if this list was made during the "Born To Reign" time I have doubt that they'd mention Will in 1997 at least, maybe not even JJFP in '88, Will needs to keep the ball rolling and release more albums and then we'll see the recognition for him grow even further... btw the worst rappers from the '80s/early '90s are better than most rappers now, looks like on the most part though they just name who's the most popular rappers of that time, it shows you that really less talent sells now than back then, skills'd sell then and if you didn't have much you wouldn't stay on top but now it's about who got the best promotional team and who gets shot and goes to jail the most where a lot of the great talent gets slept on

The way I see it 1988-1993 is the golden era of classic mcs and 2000-2005 is the sucker mc era with careers created by publicity stunts, most of those shouldn't even have record deals

A lot of great rappers get recognized here, Da Brakes got a point 'cause you could see how the best year seemed to be 1988 with all legends being listed and the worst year was 2005 with a lot of subpar rappers like you know who, you know something's wrong with the state of the rap game when you look at the recent most influential artists today...

LL Cool J also mentioned Wendy Williams in his autobiography about how he thinks that she's negatively influencing young girls who listen to the radio to start gossiping...

I swiped this from the okayplayer board: 1988 1) Public Enemy 2) Boogie Down Productions 3) DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince 4) Big Daddy Kane 5) Eric B & Rakim 6) Salt-N-Pepa 7) Slick Rick 8) Too Short;Eazy-E (tie) 9) EPMD 10) Run DMC 1989 1) NWA 2) De La Soul 3) LL Cool J 4) 2 Live Crew 5) Tone Loc 6) Big Daddy Kane 7) The DOC 8) EPMD 9) Queen Latifah 10) Biz Markie 1990 1) Public Enemy 2) Ice Cube 3) MC Hammer 4) LL Cool J 5) Brand Nubian 6) Digital Underground 7) Boogie Down Productions 8) A Tribe Called Quest 9) Eric B & Rakim 10) X-Clan 1991 1) Ice Cube 2) NWA 3) A Tribe Called Quest 4) Geto Boys 5) De La Soul 6) Naughty By Nature 7) Cypress Hill 8) Black Sheep 9) DJ Quik 10) Public Enemy 1992 1) Dr Dre & Snoop Doggy Dogg 2) Das EFX 3) Redman 4) Kris Kross 5) Ice Cube 6) Arrested Development 7) Sir Mix-A-Lot 8) Pete Rock & CL Smooth 9) The Pharcyde 10) DJ Quik 1993 1) Snoop Doggy Dogg 2) Wu-tang Clan 3) 2Pac 4) A Tribe Called Quest 5) Naughty By Nature 6) Digable Planets 7) Cypress Hill 8) Ice Cube 9) MC Eiht 10) Onyx 1994 1) Nas 2) Notorious BIG 3) Outkast 4) Warren G 5) Method Man 6) Da Brat 7) Bone Thugs-N-Harmony 8) Scarface 9) Common Sense 10) Jeru The Damaja 1995 1) Bone Thugs-N-Harmony 2) Raekwon, Ol' Dirty Bastard, and GZA 3) Tha Dogg Pound 4) Notorious BIG 5) 2Pac 6) Mobb Deep 7) Goodie Mob 8) Naughty By Nature 9) The Pharcyde 10) DJ Quik 1996 1) 2Pac 2) The Fugees 3) Outkast 4) Westside Connection 5) Jay-Z 6) Lil Kim 7) LL Cool J 8) Nas 9) Busta Rhymes 10) Foxy Brown 1997 1) Notorious BIG 2) Puff Daddy/Mase 3) Wu-Tang Clan 4) Wyclef Jean 5) Will Smith 6) Busta Rhymes 7) Master P 8) Bone Thugs-N-Harmony 9) Missy Elliott 10) Rakim 1998 1) Lauryn Hill 2) Jay-Z 3) Master P/No Limit 4) DMX 5) Outkast 6) Juvenile 7) Big Pun 8) Noreaga 9) Canibus 10) Gang Starr 1999 1) Juvenile/Cash Money Millionaires;DMX/Ruff Ryders (tie) 2) Eminem 3) Jay-Z 4) Method Man & Redman 5) Snoop Dogg 6) Mobb Deep 7) No Limit 8) Nas 9) The Roots 10) Mos Def 2000 1) Eminem 2) Dr Dre 3) Nelly 4) Jay-Z 5) Outkast 6) DMX 7) Ja Rule 8) Mystikal 9) Ludacris 10) Lil Bow Wow 2001 1) Jay-Z 2) Ja Rule 3) Nas 4) P Diddy 5) Ludacris 6) Xzibit 7) Trick Daddy 8) Missy Elliott 9) Petey Pablo 10) Fabolous 2002 1) Eminem 2) Nelly 3) Missy Elliott 4) Nas 5) Cam'ron 6) Jay-Z 7) Nappy Roots 8) Clipse 9) Big Tymers 10) 50 Cent 2003 1) 50 Cent 2) Outkast 3) Jay-Z 4) Lil Jon & The Eastside Boyz 5) Ludacris 6) Snoop Dogg 7) Chingy 8) David Banner 9) TI 10) Lil Kim 2004 1) Lil Jon & The Eastside Boyz 2) Kanye West 3) Lloyd Banks;Young Buck (tie) 4) Snoop Dogg 5) Twista 6) Ludacris 7) TI 8) Terror Squad 9) Jadakiss 10) Juvenile 2005 1) Kanye West 2) 50 Cent 3) The Game 4) Mike Jones 5) Young Jeezy 6) Ying Yang Twins 7) Paul Wall 8) Bun B 9) Three 6 Mafia 10) Lil Kim

Yeah you gotta be a big fan of "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" album to know that, Roots always show JJFP love, Jazzy Jeff also appeared on the "Things Fall Apart" album in 1999...