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That'd be incredible if all that happened, 100% hip-hop from JJFP, no wack producers, nobody helping Will write his lyrics, no guest appearances, no industry bull****, that's what all of us want, Will, Jeff, 2 turntables and a mic in the studio, they should call Ready Rock C and get him on the beatbox too :kekeke:

Oprah Responds to Hip-Hop Criticism By Chris Richburg and Clarence Burke Jr. Date: 5/12/2006 06:15 PM Talk show host Oprah Winfrey is speaking out about the recent criticism she has received from the Hip-Hop community. In the past few weeks, rappers Ludacris and 50 Cent have openly condemned Winfrey, who appeared on Ed Lover's Power 105.1 radio show yesterday (May 11) to defend her side of the story. "I listen to some Hip-Hop. I've been accused of not liking Hip-Hop and that's just not true," she said. "I got a little 50 [Cent] in my iPod. I really do. I like 'In Da Club.' Have you heard the beat to 'In Da Club'? Love that, love Jay-Z, love Kanye, love Mary J. Mary J. is one of my friends." The backlash against Winfrey sparked last year after Ludacris appeared on The Oprah Winfrey Show to promote his co-starring role in the film Crash. While discussing the movie's racial subject matter with the other cast members, Winfrey interrogated Ludacris about his notoriously raunchy lyrics. The rapper addressed the incident in the May issue of GQ Magazine, stating that Winfrey edited his comments out of the show. He also revealed that he wasn't invited to appear on the show initially, and that he felt Winfrey's questioning was inappropriate considering the fact that he appeared on the show as an actor. "What I got was that by having rappers on her show, she feels like she is empowering in them. It was like being at someone's house who doesn't really want you there," Ludacris told GQ. "I don't see why Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle, who I am huge fans of, it's OK for them to go on Oprah. They speak the same language as I do, but they do it through comedy, so I guess that's acceptable to her." Winfrey said she and Ludacris continued their conversation after the show, as she attempted to explain why she put the rapper in the hot seat. "I said 'Look Ludacris, you are so smart. You are one of the brilliant guys. I used to have the Klan on and the skinheads on and I looked out in the audience and I saw contact being made between the guys in the audience and the stage and they were like, 'Yeah get her, get her, get her, Bud,'" she said. "At that moment, I was doing nobody any good [by] putting those people on because I realized that that platform was being seen and heard by a lot of people who weren't as smart as I am. "My idea was, I want y'all to know that this is what's going on," Winfrey continued. "And I said to Ludacris, 'A lot of people who listen to your music aren't as smart as you are. So they take some of that stuff literally when you are just writing it for entertainment purposes.'" Ludacris isn't the only rapper who has claimed to be offended by Winfrey's actions, however. 50 Cent told the Associated Press that rappers are a rarity on her show. "I think she caters to older white women." 50 said, adding that "Oprah's audience is my audience's parents. So, I could care less about Oprah or her show. I'm actually better off having friction with her." While Winfrey expressed her love of Hip-Hop to Ed Lover, she also decried the misogyny prevalent in the music and stressed that there are many different aspects of Hip-Hop. The media mogul said she personally felt the worldwide impact of rap during an encounter with a security guard for African political leader Nelson Mandela. According to Winfrey, the guard greeted her group by saying "Hello n***as." Winfrey explained to Ed Lover that the guard thought it was the norm because they watched videos and listened to rap music. Lover later told Winfrey that he would never use the word 'b***h' again. Hip-Hop's power is undeniable, Winfrey acknowledged, as she noted the music's growing influence years ago, as well as the accompanying responsibility. "Years and years ago, Quincy Jones and I had this conversation about the evolution of Hip-Hop and what it really means to our culture," Winfrey said. "Hip-Hop is like jazz and gospel music, evolved from the people, a form of protest, a form of expression so you can't deny that, nor would I try. But I do believe there needs to be awareness of who we are, how we got here and what that means about staying here."

I found out that the soundtrack and movie's coming out in August: OutKast Album, Film Penciled In For August May 12, 2006, 3:25 PM ET Jonathan Cohen, N.Y. After numerous delays, the OutKast film "Idlewild" is now slated to arrive Aug. 25 in U.S. theaters, three days after the release of its LaFace soundtrack. The first single from the album, "Mighty O," leaked online earlier this week. The cut features OutKast's take on Cab Calloway's famous scatting from "Minnie the Moocher." Andre 3000's verse finds him resisting easy categorization: "The damsels in distress but they a mess / They only like my armor and that I'm a performer/ They read one magazine and want to think they're getting warmer / They're only getting colder." Big Boi, meanwhile, reasserts his dominance over other rappers with lines like "Intended for anyone filling out this application / An estimate is needed for your underestimation / I'm firing on the spot, go back and check your calculations." Later, he threatens, "I'll hurt you like the president's approval rating by serving you're a** with words, fool." Written and directed by Bryan Barber, "Idlewild" is set in the 1930s around the music and business of running a speakeasy. While it will fit the film's context, Big Boi told Billboard.com last year not to expect period music. "It's hip-hop. It's OutKast. It is what we've been doing for years," he said. "Some songs have a little more piano or whatever, but the whole project was a natural progression from a double CD [OutKast's 2003 album "Speakerboxx/The Love Below"]. It was like, where do we go from here?" Recording artists Patti LaBelle, Macy Gray and Fishbone's Angelo Moore also appear in "Idlewild," along with actors Terrence Howard, Faizon Love, Ben Vereen and Cicely Tyson, among others.

So Turntable you mean that Will's on a major label and Jazzy ain't on a major label might have something to do with them not collabing much? I doubt that, you don't have to be on a certain label to work with somebody, Jazzy wouldn't be able to get Method Man on his album if he wasn't allowed to work with major label artists and Will also had producers on his albums that ain't on major labels either, you threw me off when you said mature but you really meant major, I see what you meant now, I don't think it'd be a problem for a JJFP album to come out even if they ain't on the same label, I mean look at R.Kelly and Jay-Z doing best of both worlds and they're both on different labels, both of their labels might sponsor it, so it'd be an Overbrook/Interscope/Touch Of Jazz/BBE release or something like that.... btw Tim thanks for the link man, it's great to see another mc representin' New Jersey, I'm gonna look more into Dave Ghetto...

Yeah "Lost and Found" was a great album to me too, I care more about dope lyrics than beats myself, I wish others thought like that though, the majority of the general public didn't pay attention to "Lost and Found" 'cause the beats weren't strong enough, they rather hear 50 Cent mumble wack lyrics over hot beats from Dr. Dre than give Will rapping lyrics with substance over average beats a chance, it's the fans that accept wackness that brings down the rap game but then again there was rappers outselling JJFP at the time too even with the great beats that JJFP had and those rappers ain't around now, you need more than catchy beats to have a long career but it wouldn't hurt for Will to have the best music to rap over, even if he don't wanna work with Jazzy all the time at least he should call quality producers to work with, having wack producers on his albums is like Will working with wack directors on all of films, it'd bring down his acting career, he deserves the best with his rap career too...

Jazzy immature? :1-eek: I don't think Jazzy's out of line for anything he said in there, he's just lookin' out for Will and wants to see him do the best, he knows how the record buisiness works, having great production is probably the most important thing to sell albums, now there are some people that don't mind what the beats sound like and just care about great lyrics but most people who buy albums are concerned with the music more than the lyrics, he has the right to say what he said there 'cause his beats are better than anything on Will's recent albums, now if he was making wack beats himself then I could see how he wouldn't have the right to say that, lol, now as a fan I wanna see Will get the full recognition he deserves and he won't get people to fully pay attention to him with the kind of beats on his last couple albums, there's should be no question to why he can't get the best production, what I mean about wack producers ruining Will's legacy is that they keep Will from getting higher record sales than what he could've had, with better production more people would've bought "Born To Reign" and "Lost and Found", I think that Will's respected more than most of the rappers that outsell him now but he's not as successful and there's no excuse for that, bottomline I think the main reason why black radio don't play Will's solo stuff 'cause the beats are weak, they played all JJFP singles on black radio, if Will wants to get on black radio again he should holla at Jazzy.... I'm tired of the wack rappers getting better beats than Will, let's be real without dope production would Bow Wow and 50 sell anything? The reason why there's so many sucker mcs on top 'cause producers waste their dope beats on them, that's their fault too, we need more real producers like Jazzy that only work with the most talented mcs, I wish Dr. Dre was like Jazzy and worked with better mcs than he does...

Well "Willenium" had quite a bit of credability in hip-hop circles and it sold 3 million albums, that's probably the biggest that Will's had credability in hip-hop since the JJFP days, sure "Big Willie Style" sold more but I think it was more 'cause of the catchy beats there, I don't the fans felt the lyrics on there as much as they did "Willenium", it was more of a complete album, "Lost and Found" had some credability but there was quite a bit of people turned off with the production and it only sold 1 million where it could've sold more than that if if had better beats, more people buy albums for beats than they do lyrics these days more than ever, that's why Kanye sells too, he doesn't have 1/3 of the lyrical talent that Will has but he makes dope beats, Will can't be more popular than rappers like 50 and Kanye with weak beats and what I am saying is that I want to see Will have as much success in rap as he does with acting, I don't like it how his acting career overshadowed his rapping career, he deserves another Grammy as well as an Oscar...

Speaking of remastering, I hope the JJFP albums get remastered one day, that's what I'm really looking forward to, I'm not getting this right away if there's no new/unreleased tracks but it's still a good timing to release this since there's probably a lot of kids that got introduced to FP as an mc with "Lost and Found" and this album would be a good album to help give them a history lesson of his career with Jazzy...

If there's only 14 tracks on there with no unreleased, I probably won't get it right away...

Well Kev to me that "Tell Me Why" beat is one of the best that Will's had recently which tells you how bad's it's been with Will's production and if people wanna say that beat or any beat's wack on Will's last 2 albums you can't really argue against them 'cause it's true, even "Here He Comes" which sounds like one of Jeff's worst beats is better than most of the beats Will's had in the last 6 years, the production has been killing Will's career, all the beats are wack compared to what Jeff could do, they might be ok for other producers' standards but not Jeff, he's a perfectionist, he wouldn't give anybody beats wack like that 'cause he puts time into what he does...

Hey I notice that the interview a lot longer than that, what's he saying in the rest of the interview?

Interscope sucks, they delayed releasing Pharrell's album release for almost a year, I've been waiting on this album for a while, Pharrell's mad talented...

KRS is also doing a collab album with Marley Marl and that's supposed to come out this summer, can't wait to hear the Blastmaster rip the mic again, he's one of the most consistant ever

It's obvious that Will has no chemistry with the other producers he works with 'cause he was recording "Lost and Found" for 3 years, I mean with Jazzy on the wheels and the boards he probably could've banged out the same quality album if not something even better in just a couple weeks and in the last few years with Jazzy he could've released a few dope albums instead of spending time on just one album and doing all of these movies, Will and Jazzy releasing one song together in 6 years is disturbing, I mean they're not beefing and they're both alive right? There should be no excuse, I thought they were "potnas" :paperbag:

Yeah I don't really think "Mirror Mirror" was that much of a standout track on "10", btw thanks for the link ash trey, I'm gonna check that out later...

Going to Def Jam would be the best for Will, it'd be like Nas going to Def Jam, Will basically has the same problem that Nas has had by having wack beats on his recent albums, but now with Nas going to Def Jam he's working with the best producers like Kanye and Just Blaze, the reason why Jay and LL have been so consistant over the years 'cause they don't choose to rap over wack beats but I think Nas and Will both have the problem and that's why their sales have been up and down a lil' bit more 'cause the production has been steller at times(ie"Illmatic"/"Stillmatic", "Code Red"/"Willenium") and inconsistant other times(ie "Street's Disciple"/"Lost and Found") and I think that if Will goes there he'd be in the position like Nas in finally having the top notch producers needed to fit with the top notch rhymes, if he's gonna have anybody else on the album produce for him besides Jazzy it should only be those on the level of Just Blaze or Kanye, no more no name sub par producers....

:word: If Will doesn't take time out to work with Jeff I don't think he should do anymore music 'cause working with wack producers is hurting his legacy

There's another "Mirror Mirror"?!! I remember there's a "Mirror Mirror" on "10"...

Pharrell Williams and Kanye West have teamed up to do a track together for Pharrell's forthcoming solo debut, In My Mind. According to a representative for Interscope Records, the all-star duo and acclaimed video director Hype Williams shot a video for the currently untitled track in Miami this past weekend. In My Mind was originally slated for release in November last year but has been pushed back several times. The album will now hit stores this summer and, in addition to Kanye, will feature collaborations with Slim Thug, Daddy Yankee, Gwen Stefan, Jay-Z and Nelly, among others. In related news, Louis Vuitton recently announced that Pharrell and jewelry designer Camille Miceli will be designing a new jewelry collection for the designer label. The Miceli/Pharrell collaboration was described by Miceli as "large and very, very unique" and is expected to be unveiled in 2007. Pharrell Williams' In My Mind due in stores July 25.

Hopefully Will reads this interview, it seems that people buy albums just for beats more than anything now, that's why Bow Wow went platinum with shallow lyrics, if somebody like Jermaine Dupri produced "Lost and Found" sales would've been double if not triple of what they were, I don't understand how tracks produced by Timbaland and Kanye West didn't make "Lost and Found" but tracks produced by Freshman did? Will would've made a Mariah Carey type comeback if he had top notch production(her album had Jermaine, Neptunes, James Poyser, Kanye West producing), it could've went gold in the first week and platinum in a month, probably sold close to what 50 Cent did probably more since it'd be a complete album with beats and lyrics not just beats, the only reason why he sells too is 'cause he has Dre's production team on his album, people don't like his lyrics either but if you got hot enough beats people buy it, even "Born To Reign" with weak lyrics on Will's standards would've sold more if it had better beats than it did, it would've sold like LL's "10" which wasn't that strong lyrically for LL's standards either but the Neptunes laced him good, if Neptunes produced "Born To Reign" I bet it would've gone platinum... The last couple albums had some hot beats in between but there was a lot of beats in there that basically should be kept for C Rated rappers, not a legend like Will, he should be more outspoken too and tell the producer that he ain't feelin' certain beats when he's recording, let them wack rappers have wack beats so they could flop, the real artists deserve the best, Will should definately get with Jeff and make a legendary album, it'd be aight if Will uses another top notch producer to make a good album but the chemistry that they got together would make a landmark album and get JJFP to the all time status that they much deserve...

With all those dope artists on "The Return Of The Magnificent" it's gonna be a great hip-hop album and hopefully him and Will could work out their schedules

Jazzy Jeff's working on 2 albums?!! Now basically like I've been sayin' all along it was probably Columbia's idea to have it as "Will-the actor who raps-Smith" rather than "Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince the rap group" 'cause they knew that more people would buy his albums if it went under his real name instead of as Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince that lost popularity, they figure if they could associate Will with his movies that he'd sell more, maybe Jazzy didn't sign there 'cause they probably wanted him to do movies to promote his album, Columbia seems to be about gimmicks, they don't care about good music, that's why they dumped a bunch of dope rappers over the last few years and only kept Bow Wow, lol, I think if it remained JJFP that people would still want to buy it, these record execs are just idiots, just like when Columbia told Will after "Born To Reign" that kids would never want to listen to him again and he gets nominated for a Nickelodeon award for favorite music artist this year, lol... Jive was dissapointed with the lackluster sales of "Code Red" that's why they wanted nothing to do with JJFP but as soon as "Big Willie Style" blew up they rushed out "JJFP's Greatest Hits", they gave up on them too soon, a lot of rappers at the time weren't selling anyway 'cause gangsta rap was taking over, it wasn't just JJFP sales that were dropping but they don't care about the artists it's only buisiness, that's why teeny bop singers and studio gangstas take up space on major labels, they don't sign real artists period, the one thing I don't get is that those beats on "Code Red" were the best beats of all time and yet it's the lowest selling JJFP album? But I guess like I said gangsta rap was taking over but still you figure more would buy it than they did, Will and Jeff should just release a JJFP album themselves and not sign to any of these wack labels that'll change their image, Overbrook could distribute it, Will got the money especially with doing all these films...

Yeah I hope there's a new song on there and they shoot a video that'll get as much airplay as "Switch" did and be the biggest hit of the summer, having people anticipate the new JJFP album :rockon:

Yeah it's not really a top label that Russell Simmons has, it's just an imprint, Rev. Run's probably ok with selling 40,000 albums but I don't think Will'd wanna do that...

He must read this board 'cause we've been saying all along that Will could only take a couple weeks out of his Hollywood schedule and get together with Jazzy and we'll have another "He's The DJ.." type album with dope lyrics and beats, but with Will talking about doing all these films who knows if he'll ever have time for Jazzy, now this is a prime example why people say that Will's an actor and doesn't count as a hip-hop artist,and the beats on Will's last couple albums are ok for amateur to make demo tapes to but they ain't high enough quality for a top mc like Will to be using, Jazzy was quite involved with "Big Willie Style" and "Willenium" that's why they did well but only "Here He Comes" is the only thing Jazzy produced for Will in the last 6 years, Will abandoned Jazzy altogether on "Born To Reign" and it's the worst selling, least critical acclaimed album of his career,bottomline thoughI just hope that whenever Will's ready to get back to music again that he calls Jazzy up to help him with it, I bet the beats he made on the computer were even better than what was actually on his last couple albums...