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There's another "Mirror Mirror"?!! I remember there's a "Mirror Mirror" on "10"...

Pharrell Williams and Kanye West have teamed up to do a track together for Pharrell's forthcoming solo debut, In My Mind. According to a representative for Interscope Records, the all-star duo and acclaimed video director Hype Williams shot a video for the currently untitled track in Miami this past weekend. In My Mind was originally slated for release in November last year but has been pushed back several times. The album will now hit stores this summer and, in addition to Kanye, will feature collaborations with Slim Thug, Daddy Yankee, Gwen Stefan, Jay-Z and Nelly, among others. In related news, Louis Vuitton recently announced that Pharrell and jewelry designer Camille Miceli will be designing a new jewelry collection for the designer label. The Miceli/Pharrell collaboration was described by Miceli as "large and very, very unique" and is expected to be unveiled in 2007. Pharrell Williams' In My Mind due in stores July 25.

Hopefully Will reads this interview, it seems that people buy albums just for beats more than anything now, that's why Bow Wow went platinum with shallow lyrics, if somebody like Jermaine Dupri produced "Lost and Found" sales would've been double if not triple of what they were, I don't understand how tracks produced by Timbaland and Kanye West didn't make "Lost and Found" but tracks produced by Freshman did? Will would've made a Mariah Carey type comeback if he had top notch production(her album had Jermaine, Neptunes, James Poyser, Kanye West producing), it could've went gold in the first week and platinum in a month, probably sold close to what 50 Cent did probably more since it'd be a complete album with beats and lyrics not just beats, the only reason why he sells too is 'cause he has Dre's production team on his album, people don't like his lyrics either but if you got hot enough beats people buy it, even "Born To Reign" with weak lyrics on Will's standards would've sold more if it had better beats than it did, it would've sold like LL's "10" which wasn't that strong lyrically for LL's standards either but the Neptunes laced him good, if Neptunes produced "Born To Reign" I bet it would've gone platinum... The last couple albums had some hot beats in between but there was a lot of beats in there that basically should be kept for C Rated rappers, not a legend like Will, he should be more outspoken too and tell the producer that he ain't feelin' certain beats when he's recording, let them wack rappers have wack beats so they could flop, the real artists deserve the best, Will should definately get with Jeff and make a legendary album, it'd be aight if Will uses another top notch producer to make a good album but the chemistry that they got together would make a landmark album and get JJFP to the all time status that they much deserve...

With all those dope artists on "The Return Of The Magnificent" it's gonna be a great hip-hop album and hopefully him and Will could work out their schedules

Jazzy Jeff's working on 2 albums?!! Now basically like I've been sayin' all along it was probably Columbia's idea to have it as "Will-the actor who raps-Smith" rather than "Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince the rap group" 'cause they knew that more people would buy his albums if it went under his real name instead of as Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince that lost popularity, they figure if they could associate Will with his movies that he'd sell more, maybe Jazzy didn't sign there 'cause they probably wanted him to do movies to promote his album, Columbia seems to be about gimmicks, they don't care about good music, that's why they dumped a bunch of dope rappers over the last few years and only kept Bow Wow, lol, I think if it remained JJFP that people would still want to buy it, these record execs are just idiots, just like when Columbia told Will after "Born To Reign" that kids would never want to listen to him again and he gets nominated for a Nickelodeon award for favorite music artist this year, lol... Jive was dissapointed with the lackluster sales of "Code Red" that's why they wanted nothing to do with JJFP but as soon as "Big Willie Style" blew up they rushed out "JJFP's Greatest Hits", they gave up on them too soon, a lot of rappers at the time weren't selling anyway 'cause gangsta rap was taking over, it wasn't just JJFP sales that were dropping but they don't care about the artists it's only buisiness, that's why teeny bop singers and studio gangstas take up space on major labels, they don't sign real artists period, the one thing I don't get is that those beats on "Code Red" were the best beats of all time and yet it's the lowest selling JJFP album? But I guess like I said gangsta rap was taking over but still you figure more would buy it than they did, Will and Jeff should just release a JJFP album themselves and not sign to any of these wack labels that'll change their image, Overbrook could distribute it, Will got the money especially with doing all these films...

Yeah I hope there's a new song on there and they shoot a video that'll get as much airplay as "Switch" did and be the biggest hit of the summer, having people anticipate the new JJFP album :rockon:

Yeah it's not really a top label that Russell Simmons has, it's just an imprint, Rev. Run's probably ok with selling 40,000 albums but I don't think Will'd wanna do that...

He must read this board 'cause we've been saying all along that Will could only take a couple weeks out of his Hollywood schedule and get together with Jazzy and we'll have another "He's The DJ.." type album with dope lyrics and beats, but with Will talking about doing all these films who knows if he'll ever have time for Jazzy, now this is a prime example why people say that Will's an actor and doesn't count as a hip-hop artist,and the beats on Will's last couple albums are ok for amateur to make demo tapes to but they ain't high enough quality for a top mc like Will to be using, Jazzy was quite involved with "Big Willie Style" and "Willenium" that's why they did well but only "Here He Comes" is the only thing Jazzy produced for Will in the last 6 years, Will abandoned Jazzy altogether on "Born To Reign" and it's the worst selling, least critical acclaimed album of his career,bottomline thoughI just hope that whenever Will's ready to get back to music again that he calls Jazzy up to help him with it, I bet the beats he made on the computer were even better than what was actually on his last couple albums...

KRS should've been on "Code Red"

Jazzy Jeff is right, I think the reason why Will's last 2 albums didn't do as well as his previous albums is that the beats were wack, even as great as "Lost and Found" is lyrically, just imagine how much better it would've been if Jazzy produced most of it, more people would've bought it too, you get the feeling that Jazzy thinks that Will's being too busy for him with the way he was talking in that interview...

Yeah It seems like Jazzy talks about wanting to do more work with Will, some of that translation doesn't make sense though...

Well that probably had something to do with it which is kinda sad, people rather buy 70 minute commercial rap albums with 90% filler than buy an album from the legendary Rev. Run, but "Mind On The Road" got sparingly airplay too, that probably also had to do with it and the reality show really didn't have much to do with his music anyway so people wouldn't know that he had an album out, it wasn't really promoted that well as it should've been either, Russell Simmons should've done more...

Yeah there's The Russell Simmons Music Group on Def Jam, Rev. Run's album was released through there last year, it only sold 40,000 copies which is surprising especially since he had "Run's House" on MTV, you figure that he'd sell more than that....

Have a happy and fun birthday! :1-smile:

Yeah we first heard that Will was gonna release an album back in 2003, he was considering either releasing it on Dreamworks Records or independently, in the summer of 2004 we learned that he signed to Interscope and that the album was supposed to come out in fall of 2004 with "Switch" coming out as the first single and have guest appearances from Kanye West, Timbaland, and Petey Pablo, along with tracks that he even produced himself, but that was delayed for months with no of those tracks making the album, Will basically did more work on it and then "Switch" was finally released late January '05 and "Lost and Found" came out in March of '05, it could be a long wait with this too but if Will's still on Interscope maybe the wait won't be as long since he knows what label he's gonna release an album on... Will does have a studio in his house and in his trailer on the road so I don't see why he can't record some stuff now before he goes films but who knows if that'll happen, AJ did say months ago that he was supposed to do a compilation album with Kel Spencer featuring a bunch of hip-hop and r&b artists to clean up the radio but we really didn't get much info from that lately, Will actually said he wasn't recording any new music but hopefully he just throwing us off saying that since it wasn't publicly released that he was doing an album with Kel Spencer, he's probably keepin' on the dl for now, everything's up in the air at this point but with all this info about him doing 5 films we might have to pray for a miracle for anything in the next couple years, I'll be happy with a couple guest appearances in between on other albums or songs on the soundtracks to his movies until the album comes out :stickpoke:

This is a hot track, can't wait till the soundtrack drops...

I'm surprised nobody said Q-Tip, I think he definately deserves a mention, for all the work he's done in the game nobody should sleep on him, I just don't get it, it's just like I'm the only one to mention Teddy Riley too but check out all the stuff he's done in his career too...

Jazzy Jeff Teddy Riley KRS-ONE(people sleep on his producing since he's such a phenominal mc but he produced his best songs like "South Bronx" and "Step Into A World") Marley Marl Kay Gee Jazzy Jeff Teddy Riley Marley Marl Jazzy Jeff

To add some comic relief to this thread, check out this debate between Bill O'Reilly, Dame Dash, Cam'ron, and KRS-ONE that never happened, it was just something that some kid on undergroundhiphop.com's message board made up :kekeke: :rofl: :lolsign: Bill O'Reilly vs The Roc Bill O'Reilly vs the Roc [ As some of you may recall, last November, Roc-a-Fella's Dame Dash and Cam’ron appeared on the O'Reilly Factor, for an episode called Is Gangsta Rap Hurting America's Children? The two went head first against O'Reilly and high school principal Salome Thomas-El. Depending on who you ask, the two hip-hop entrepreneurs represented themselves well and backed O'Reilly down. Tonight is the rematch. ] Bill O'Reilly: In the Impact Segment the other night, I expressed my opinion about the upcoming Method & Red show. Apparently I offended some members of the hip-hop community. Tonight I'm joined by hip-hop pioneer KRS-One via satellite. In the studio, we have previous guests, Dame Dash and Cam’ron of the hip-hop label Roc-A-Fella records. Welcome back fellas. Cam: How you doin, no homo. Dame: Bill first, if I can, let me correct you. Roc-a-Fella isn't just a label. We're a half a billion dollar multimedia-- O’Reilly: Whatever, tonight's subject-- hip-hop's influence destroying middle America. KRS: Bill, I have to be honest with you. It is middle America that is destroying hip-hop. Our culture was pure, bursting with creativity, until corporate America decided they could make more money selling negative images of our people. O’Reilly: That's something I hear a lot, but nobody's making these young hip-hopsters talk about popping caps and pimping bitches. Dame: Bill, you're ignoring the grand scheme of things. A lot of these artists come from nothing. KRS: Hip-hop is the tree, the root, the branch, and the leaf. You can climb it, carve your name on it, or swing like a monkey. But a tree can't do your taxes or drain a swimming pool. Dame: ...... O’Reilly: Okay, let's hear from a hip-hoppin pimpin artist. Cam’ron, what goes through your mind when you're writing these negative lyrics? Cam: Sometimes you may have it in you, no homo, and you wanna express what you feelin at that time. O’Reilly: But don't you feel a sense of responsibility? Cam: I'm responsible for my kid's food and clothes, n*gga. You know how much baby J's run now? O’Reilly: No, I'm not sure. Cam: You wanna know how I feel? no homo. O’Reilly: ....uh.. Cam: This n*gga MJ retired, so his shoes should cost less, you feel me? No homo. But it's all good cause I'm rich. O’Reilly: *looks at Cam for 3 seconds, and turns to Dash* Dame, do you think these lyrics have an effect on the youth? Dame: No more than your Terminator movies, and he's Governor. KRS: Hip-hop should run for governor. With time, hip-hop will be president of the United States. Then we can take back control of the artform, and educate the youth. Right now, I have cereal in one pocket and milk in the other. O’Reilly: Dame, there's a clear difference between fictional movies and hip-hop. KRS: Hip-hop is my bowl and spoon. *pulls out a fist full of cereal from his pocket* O’Reilly: People know movies are fake, and hip-hop? Well, whether it's fake or not, the artists try their hardest to make people believe it's real. Cam: Make believe? Yo, *bleep* is real in the streets fam. You watch your mouth or I'll kill you myself. O’Reilly: *looks at Dame with his eyes wide open* See! Dame: Cam's just jokin, look-- O’Reilly: Just joking? He threatened my life! Dame: No he didn't. Anyway, it's obvious that-- O’Reilly: What? Can we roll back a clip of the live feed? Jeff, can you queue it up on that monitor? ( clip plays of Cam’ron saying "You watch your mouth or I'll kill you myself.") O’Reilly: What do you call that? Cam: Do you believe everything you see on TV? How old are you man? Don't be ridic -no homo- ulous. KRS: That's exactly what I'm talking about, Bill. You wanted to make a point about violence, and the first clip you show is hip-hop making a threat. Violence is everywhere. O’Reilly: I didn't play a clip of hip-hop, I played a clip of Cam’ron, who's sitting right here. KRS: I saw hip-hop on that clip. O’Reilly: KRS, with all due respect, first you say hip-hop is a culture, then bowl or spoon, and now a person. Which is it? KRS: Bill, are you familiar with gia? O’Reilly: The idea that everything on earth is connected by a mystical life force? KRS: Yes. In ancient times, do you know what Gia was originally called? O’Reilly: What? KRS: hip-hop. O’Reilly: That's absurd. Dame: Why is it absurd Bill? Because hip-hop is black culture? Remember, we were the first humans on the planet. O’Reilly: And look what you did with your head start. Cam: Damn, he tryin to get on you, no homo. Dame: Look what we did? I turned nothing into a 500 million dollar empire, employing hundreds of people from my community. Do you know in the last year, we-- O’Reilly: Okay, time for a commercial break. We'll be right back. --- 3 minutes later --- O’Reilly: We're back, with Dame Dash, Cam’ron and live via satellite...KRS-One. KRS..? ( Satellite camera shows an empty chair ) O’Reilly: Okay, KRS had to step out for a moment. Dame, how can you deny the link of hip-hop and violence when your own artists stay in and out of jail? Gangster rapper Beanie Sigel is on trial for-- Dame: See, that's your problem. You think everyone who raps about the realities of the street is in a gang. Beanie Sigel is not a gangsta rapper. He just happened to grow up in conditions that-- O’Reilly: Not a gangster? Oh really? *quotes lyrics from Sigel's "Gangsta, Gangsta" * Dame: .....as I was saying, Beans grew up in a situation where-- O’Reilly: And what's this? Bang. Bang. Sigel Street Gaaang. *O’Reilly stretches out the word 'gang' in a condescending tone, while staring at Dame* State Property Chain GAAANG. GAAANG? Dame: Excellent research, Bill. But getting a pimple-faced intern to google lyrics doesn't make you qualified to speak on the harsh realities of urban- O’Reilly: It makes me qualified to call you a hypocrite, Damon. Dame: Bill... *flustered, but refusing to lose his cool* We're not on a first name basis, Bill. O’Reilly: ..... Dame: If I can for a minute, let me get back to my original point. O’Reilly: Yes, let's see your point. Cam: No homo. O’Reilly: Why does he keep saying that? Dame: It's nothin. Look Bill...we have a lot of new companies we're building and-- O’Reilly: Isn't it true you guys fund a lot of these ventures with drug money? Dame: Where did you hear that? O’Reilly: I have my sources. Dame: Well corporate America was funded with slave blood and nobody was arrested. Where there's a fortune there's a crime. O’Reilly: Sounds like the name of one of your albums. Cam: You know who you look like? *snaps fingers* What's that n*gga name? George Bush dad? O’Reilly: George Bush Senior? Cam: YEAH N*GGA! You look just like him son. Dame: Damn, he does. Cam: I bet you pull a lot of them conservative hoes. O’Reilly: We're getting off subject here. Dame: Bill... you hit Ann Coulter, didn't you? Biiiiill? O’Reilly: What? I would never hit a woman! Cam: Oh yeah, he definitely hit that. Look how red his face got! Dame: Now it matches his neck. KRS: *hops back in the chair, now wearing mask made out of newspaper, and a garbage bag cape* I had a vision! Hip-hop spoke to me! O’Reilly: Holy mother of God. Cam: *speechless grin* KRS: Hip-Hop says that there is no light without dark. If the human soul had a color, it would have to be a rainbow. Jesus was the first emcee. I swear to God I had milk in my left pocket this morning and now it's not there. Did you take my milk? Dame: Bill, I don't see you talking about boycotting Pepsi when they have Ozzy Osborne on commercials. But a hip-hop artist? Boycott. I don't see you boycotting Fox when they have people throwing away their dignity for money. But a show with 2 rappers? Boycott! You're really boycotting rappers making money. Cam: You need to boycott that sports drink with Fat Joe in the commercial. Dame: Wait a second-- Cam: How the *bleep* you gonna have a Fat Joe be your spokesman for a SPORTS drink? He need redbull just to sit up. Then that *bleep* supposed to make you throw up bees? That ain't hip-hop. KRS: Did you say HIP-HOP? I remember in 1974, before we had videos and radio play, hip-hop would push children on the swings and build sand castles. Then we would put graffiti on them, and you know what hip-hop would say? Dame: Bill, did you-- KRS: Koolaaaaid! Cam: You wildin son. And your nostrils makin me wanna *bleep* no homo. KRS: Who wants koolaid? *reaches into his garbage bag cape* Dame: Bill, did you boycott Men in Black because of Will Smith? O’Reilly: No, of course not. Dame: Did you boycott Nickelodean when they hired Coolio? O’Reilly: Coolio's a rapper? Cam: Word? Dame: Did you boycott the Superbowl when Nelly performed? Continued... KRS: Did someone say Nelly? This is the real issue threatening hip-hop! I had a dream that Nelly was a lion-headed dragon and hip-hop was my sword. Dame: Why don't you just boycott everything and sit your old ass at home? Hip-hop is taking over. O’Reilly: N*gga please! Dame: ....... Cam: ........ KRS: ........ Dame: *in complete shock* Cam: *mouth gaped open like a kindergardener hearing someone curse in class* Dame: I don't believe this. Cam: Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh! Dame: First of all... Cam: Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh! Dame: Cam, I got this. First of all... O’Reilly: What? You guys say it on records all the time. Cam: Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh! Dame: Cam, quiet. First of all... I don't even rap. So you never heard me say that on no song. Second-- O’Reilly: C'mon. Dame: Secondly, for you to even use that word just proves my point. You're a damn racist Bill. O’Reilly: Racist? I was just joking. Cam's been calling me that all night and you weren't so offended. Dame: Cam’ron isn't protesting against black people getting paid. How can you call for a boycott on Fox, of all networks, for airing something immoral? Fox Bill! KRS: *gets on his knees* Oh mother hip-hop.. as we suck on thy teat, of thine ample bosom, please guide us through all of life's trials. You know, adult diapers are more comfortable than underwear. O’Reilly: Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and take a break right here. We'll be back. --- 3 minutes later --- (The show resumes in mid-argument) Cam: *bleep bleep bleep* O’Reilly: How could you even allow something like that to come out of your mouth? Cam: NO HOMO! O’Reilly: How can you people deny-- Dame: What do you mean "you people"? First "N*gga," now this. O’Reilly: YOU PEOPLE AS IN YOU PEOPLE SITTING DOWN RIGHT HERE. YOU, DAME AND CAM’RON!. YOU PEOPLE! Cam: AAAHA You maad! You maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad! Dame: So hostile...he must listen to hip-hop. O’Reilly: Please. KRS: Please what? Hip-hop is the fruit of the loom! The alpha and omega. The quaaaaaan. *spins around, covering his body in the garbage bag cape* O’Reilly: Uh...anyway, how can you people, Dame and Cam, deny that your records pollute society? Cam: What about Fox? O’Reilly: I have no control over what Fox does. Cam: You on Fox though. Your show is on the same-- O’Reilly: That's just business. Cam: So wait, hold up-- Dame: Bill-- Cam: No Dame, I got this. *excited* Hold up! O’Reilly: It's irrelevant. My show isn't-- Dame: Biiiiill-- Cam: You sayin when Fox airs all that negative programmin' with dudes marryin midgets and transvestites, no homo, it's just business. But when some young black entreprenuers from the hood blow, no homo, we pollutin' society? Is that whatchu sayin Bill? O’Reilly: No, what I'm saying is my opinion on-- Cam: Hold up Bill. This is what I think of your opinion. O’Reilly: Now you wait just a minute there-- ( Cam’ron climbs on top of Bill O’Reilly's desk and crawls towards him. O’Reilly, both confused and apprehensive, leans back and tries to calm Cam’ron down, but it's too late. Cam turns around, puts his ass in Bill O’Reilly's face and passes gas. ) O’Reilly: ...... ( Cam and Dame laugh uncontrollably like school girls ) O’Reilly: Oh for the love of God. KRS: That reminds me of my battle with MC Shan.. O’Reilly: Can we take a commercial break? Dame: No homo on the ass in the face, by the way. Cam: Oh yeah, negative homo! Dame: No means No. Homo. O’Reilly: Jesus Christ Cam: Caged homo! Dame: Mime homo trapped in a box. Cam: *taps his throat with his index finger* No-o-o-o-ho-o-o-o-o-o-m-o-o-o-o. ( The credits roll as Cam and Dame try to out "no homo" each other. Hours after the show is over and the lights & cameras are gone, KRS-One is still preaching about hip-hop's foundation and future. ) -- Back in his dressing room, O’Reilly hands Memphis Bleek a $20 bill. – O’Reilly: Thanks for giving me the dirt on Roc-A-Fella and digging up those song lyrics. Bleek: Hey man, we agreed on $50... and you said you'd humiliate them. O’Reilly: I think I did a good job. Bleek: Where's my other $30? O’Reilly: I don't have anymore cash on me. Bleek: *pulls out his gun* O’Reilly: Wait... here, give me back that 20 and I'll have my assistant write you a check for a 100. His office is right through that door. ( Bleek hands O’Reilly the 20 and walks through the door ) Bleek: Hello? ( He hears the door lock behind him, just before realizing he's in an alley. ) Now Bill O'Reilly really did debate with Cam'Ron and Dame Dash on the violence in hip-hop before, KRS-ONE did say in an interview last year that he does want to publicly debate Bill O'Reilly himself 'cause he thinks it's unfair that he criticises hip-hop but personally the way I see it Bill O'Reilly criticises everybody so I don't take what he says too serious anyway, here's the link to the real debate: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,103092,00.html

I doubt this picture with Bill O'Reilly has any political meaning behind it since O'Reilly is politically incorrect anyway, lol, and btw Limbaugh is another idiot, he's a drug addict and I don't like how he gotta diss Donovan Mcnabb all the time, basically I ain't saying no more in this thread either, I don't want this to turn into a heated political debate, basically a lot of celebrities try to stay out of politics too 'cause they know that some of their fans might have different beliefs and that might alienate them but I think that's stupid too if a fan turns on an artist just 'cause of political beliefs...

Yeah a couple years ago Will also made very critical comments towards the way Bush handled 9/11, some conservatives got mad and wanted to boycott "I, Robot"...

Bill O'Reilly is an idiot that has no credability going around dissin' everybody on his shows all the time...

I have this song on the NBA 2K5 Soundtrack, it's a smooth jam...

Here's the link, I voted, still the same results: http://celebrity.aol.com/people/ataol/gall...57077_2,00.html

Will's a positive influence.. Bill's a negative one.. Yeah that's true....