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Rappers Urge Financial Responsibility NEW YORK - LL Cool J is urging fans to be financially responsible. The platinum-selling rap star spoke over the weekend at the Hip Hop Summit on Financial Empowerment. The event, organized by multi-millionaire entrepreneur Russell Simmons, mixed stars like LL Cool J, Alicia Keys, Nas and T.I. with financial experts to provide advice on home ownership, budgets, credit cards and other financial issues. "The biggest misconception probably comes from the hip-hop community itself ... that the money lasts forever," LL Cool J said on Saturday. "You have to do the right thing with it." Fellow chart-topping rapper Nas said it was important to teach young fans about financial responsibility. "It's time that we do something to educate our kids," he said. "We've got to think about our future, think about tomorrow. It's beyond the corner, it's beyond the jails. We've got to think about growing old in this game."

That'd been huge if Kel rapped on one of the remixes to "Switch" or even rhymed on the original for that matter, especially since he was involved in writing it, he could've easily done that, maybe he don't want to be in the spotlight though I guess, you sorta get the impression that he just does it for fun 'cause Will and all the other rappers he wrote for like Puffy, Teddy Riley, and Lil' Kim could've hooked him up with a major deal by now if he really wanted it, I mean come on now you work with all those people and you still can't get a major deal for many years? lol If I was in his shoes and I wanted a deal I'm sure I coulda got one of them to hook me up, either that or he wants to really just do it on his own without anybody helping, even though that's kinda hard to do...

Snoop's a dope mc but as an actor :thumbdown:

Yeah I was watching 106 & Park the other day and they had Romeo on there and he was also defending Will "How could you diss Will Smith? He might've called Will bubblegum rapper but not everybody back then was a gangsta rapper, you can't front on his songs like Summertime", then after that they showed the video for that song you're talking about, he actually stepped his rap game up I must say, I'm quite surprised, lol...

That's right this thread is about Kel Spencer, post your reviews for the mixtape or anything Kel Spencer related here, this topic is about him, I think Kel'd love to be in the position that Will's in right now, it should be the opposite, Will should offer him a contract through Overbrook and Kel could release his album through Overbrook/Interscope, I'd love for 700,000 fans to buy his album, he'd get much more exposure than releasing it through an independent label, the public need to find out about him, I just don't get why Will can't hook him up 'cause they're so tight, I mean come on now Will could bring him along the next time he goes on TRL and 106 & Park, and to say that Will should join Kel's label is a joke, I mean come on now Will's sales would be even worse if that happened, Kel's just trying to make it right now...

Yeah there's millions of fans that would like to meet him but they might not be able to, Will loves his fans very much and I'm sure if he had it in his power he'd meet all of us, you'll be real fortunate if you ever meet him but if you don't get that chance don't take it personal, keep ya head up...

I bet it'll be all over radio Disney, lil' girls'll be fighting over who's better during recess 'cause they're the only ones that buy Bow Wow and Romeo CDs :wiggle:

Tim Duncan and Ginoboli have been hurt all year so it wouldn't be surprised if they lose in the first round, people dissin' the Clippers but they got a solid team and could make a run, Suns without Amare won't go as far as they did last year in the playoffs....

1st Round: East Conference Detroit over Milwaukee in 5 Washington over Cleveland in 6 Miami over Chicago in 7(I wouldn't be surprised if Bulls won and went to the Finals, they'd have momentum if they win this series) Upset: Indiana over New Jersey in 6(Nets played like **** the last few weeks after their 12 game winning streak broke and Pacers got J. O'neal back from injury) West Conference San Antonio over Sacremento in 7( just like Bulls, Kings have a great chance, I was actually thinking about picking the other way) Dallas over Memphis in 6 Phoneix over La Lakers in 7 La Clippers over Denver in 6 2nd Round: East Conference: Miami over Indiana in 5 Detriot sweep Washington in 4 West Conference Dallas over San Antonio in 6 Upset: La Clippers over Phoenix in 7 Conference Finals: East Miami over Detriot 6 West Dallas over La Clippers in 5 NBA Finals Miami over Dallas in 7

Maybe like once a week I heard Hot 97 play it for a month or so and now they don't play it at all, it wasn't even close to being as big as his song with Ciara that was played on the radio every day, the video with Mike Jones is corny as hell, he has grillz in his mouth like he's trying to be Nelly, I'd rather listen to "Grillz" than that garbage song, lol, but maybe with all this beef crap they'll probably start playing it more now and his sales will go up to 50 Cent status, people love beef, Bow Wow should go to G Unit and they could make "How To Rob Pt. 2" together since they love dissin' everybody, lol, Lil' Romeo will probably go platinum when he releases an album too :shakehead: I hope fans ignore this and they all flop, Master P shouldn't say anything to Bow Wow 'cause no matter if you tell him he won't listen since he's immature, Will could of said stuff to the media about Bow Wow and try to be a nice guy about it and I bet Bow Wow'd come back and say something nasty about him too so that's why Will didn't even bother 'cause the kid's an idiot, I don't think what Master P said was really a diss either but some fans will take anything somebody says in that situation as a diss, he was trying to mediate everything between Bow Wow and Romeo, Bow Wow's showing that he hasn't learned anything from meeting with Will, if you ain't got nothin' nice to say don't say nothin', even if he was making more money than Master P he shouldn't rub it in his face when Master P wasn't doing that to him, Master P in reality got more than Bow Wow but he wasn't trying to snoop to his level No Limit Records selling 75 million with all artists' catalog>>>> the label that Bow Wow'll never own Like Chuck D once said: "If you don't own your masters, your master owns you", Master P got his record labels masters while JD owns Bow Wow's, lol....

BG sold about 100,000 in the first month of sales and it's only selling 8,000 copies a week at the moment, basically only a lil' better than what Master P's last album did on Koch, not better than Will's "Lost and Found" that sold 700,000 copies though, since Ice Cube is a big time movie star he might sell 300,000 albums I predict, if he goes on Interscope or Def Jam he could probably move a lil' bit more than that and sell basically what Will and LL sell on majors but he probably gets a better check so it's all good, I guess he don't want the aggrevation, the only Will would ever considering going independent I think if he gives up doing films for a while, Ice Cube is taking a break from filming and is planning to release a few albums to make up for the six years of filming, I could actually see why he did it if I think about it...

I doubt Ice Cube will sell more than "Lost and Found" did with his new album, I don't hear his single on the radio and I haven't seen the video since it debuted 2 weeks ago, independent artists don't sell much, it doesn't make sense for Ice Cube to be independent, he makes millions off of his films, usually artists go independent to make more money, he needs to be a major label so they could properly promote his albums and he'll get the proper radio and video support, people won't know about his album if his video and song don't get played on TV or the radio that much, if I didn't have the internet I wouldn't even know when his album is gonna be coming out...

Well Bow Wow called himself the top 3 mc 'cause he's on TV all the time, I think everyone in the industry should get together and run him out of the rap game for that comment, but I think that'd just bring more attention to him if everyone disses him, that's why 50's so popular even though everybody beat him in the rap battles, everyone should just ignore him like he don't exist, everyone is laughing at his stupid comments anyway,you can't be a top 3 mc if you only write 5% of your lyrics, Master P released more albums than Bow Wow songs that were released that he wrote, it's like the first 2 albums he didn't write anything, he wrote 5 songs on his 3rd album with TI writing the rest, and his last album JD wrote most of it with J-Kwon writing "Freshasimiz" and he admitted in an interview that he only wrote 2 songs on the album, how could he call himself top 3 mc if he ain't even an mc? That's a disgrace for hip-hop... I could take his place in the game, btw Dr. Dre said the best lines on Eminem's album a few years ago when he dissed JD, that set So So Def back a few years and made Bow Wow run off on his own and flop badly on his album before his last: "You midget, Mini-Me with a bunch of little Mini-Yous runnin around your backyard swimmin pools Over 80 million records sold And I ain't have to do it with ten or eleven-year-olds"

J-Kwon wrote "Freshasimiz" for Bow Wow but that wasn't really a hit either I guess 'cause I only heard it played once in a while, lol, I haven't really heard Bow Wow on the radio everyday since that song with Ciara, it's not like they play his songs from 5 years ago on the radio like they're classics, I don't know what fairland he's living in, lol, J-Kwon might be wack but at least he writes his own wack lyrics, Bow Wow has to pay everyone for his wack lyrics, now that's a true definition of a joke.... Master P doesn't really have to rap either, he's been rich before and after he made it big in rap, he's a smart buisiness man, he went on "Dancing With The Stars" to enjoy himself not 'cause he needed money, that's just like Jerry Rice going on there, he ain't broke either is he? That's like Bow Wow is richer than Will 'cause he sold more on his last 2 albums than Will did and gets more airplay than him, come on now, Will don't need to rap either 'cause he's a different type of a hustla/ a blockbusta, lol, who's Bow Wow gonna diss next Jay-Z?

Did I miss something is Bow Wow the owner of So So Def Records? Master P owns No Limit Records and his son Lil' Romeo has a huge share of that, JD owns So So Def and Bow Wow just works for him.... :stickpoke: Career sales I was checking: Master P sold 12 million albums in the US, Bow Wow sold 4 million in the US....

Master P was huge in the late '90s, bigger than Bow Wow has ever been, his 2 albums sold a combined 10 million albums I believe, before that he made like $50 million before a major label even offered him a deal through selling albums independently through his No Limit imprint, how much has Bow Wow sold for his 4 albums, 3 million? Not only that Master P made like $10 for each album then too 'cause he owns his record label, and I believe also he saved Bow Wow's hero Snoop Dogg's career too when he left Death Row, Master P got more credible as a buisiness man in the hip-hop world than Bow Wow has with anything, Bow Wow is under JD so JD makes more money off a Bow Wow album than Bow Wow does, Bow Wow probably gets 10 cents an album like everyone else in the record industry, Master P is a hustla though, you don't wanna talk about money when you talk about Master P, he's a smart buisniess man, his record career's been sputtering but he got lots of ways to make money still, he probably made more selling 100,000 on his last album than Bow Wow did selling 900,000 on his album 'cause Master P is the boss so he gets 1st dibs, but since Bow Wow don't even write his rhymes, JD would get ghostwriting fees and money as Bow Wow's boss so in the end Bow Wow might be on TV more than Master P but he ain't making more money than him, not to mention Master P actually played in the NBA and Bow Wow only made a movie about playing in the NBA, he could easily throw this back at that lil' punk, Master P got a lot of connections in the rap industry, JD better put a muzzel on that lil' pup, he better shut up or else he might lose his record deal...

Jeff's son posted on Jazzy's board last year, I'm not quite sure but I think he does a lil' DJ'ing himself or at least he's working on it I think...

Why is there 30 views and just a couple feedbacks, nobody has any thoughts on this? :stickpoke: :wiggle: It's quite interesting to see kids from legendary rappers trying to come in the game like their parents, Ice Cube was on the radio recently saying that his son is producing a song on his new album, and Eazy-E's son is rapping too now(Lil' Eazy-E), they should form NWA Jr., lol, I wonder if Trey's gonna be picking up a mic soon and be on Will's next album? By the time the next album comes out 2 or 3 years from now, he'll be 15/16 years old...

Yeah everyone on that song ruined it basically but: "Wild N' Out">>>>Romeo's career Anybody who puts any album from any of those rappers like Master P, Romeo, and Bow Wow in the same class as "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" and "Bigger and Deffer" has no credability, they shouldn't even be allowed to allow to interpolate those songs 'cause they're so wack, this WWE crap in rap is so corny, these wack rappers got to go, Master P looks like a fool to put so much energy into dissing somebody that's old enough to be his son, he should just let it slide like Will has been doing, and I think should just sell his merchandise and hang up his mic and have his son Romeo have a position in his company, he clearly has no buisiness to be in the music business just 'cause he's daddy's lil' boy, and Bow Wow should just leave the rap game altogether he's such a joke, at least Nick Cannon is entertaining and don't go around dissing anybody...

LL should sue Bow Wow for ruining his line in that song but then again like I said earlier he should also sue Master P for turning "I Need Love" into "I Need Dubs" and Will should sue Lil' Romeo for ruining "Parents Just Don't Understand", they all suck, wack rappers need to stop ruining classics... :stickpoke:

I'm bumping this up for anyone who wants to read this, I figured since there's some Dr. Dre fans they'd be interested in knowing that his son is a producer/rapper too, it's quite interesting that he's dissing Game too since Dre is Game's main producer, there might be some tension at home since this is coming out publicly, lol...

:rofl: This kid should just learn to shut up 'cause everytime he opens his mouth he makes himself look foolish, Master P got money stacks bigger than him :paperbag: Bow Wow Responds To Lil' Romeo And Master P. By Morris Moore and Roman Wolfe Date: 4/21/2006 7:20 pm The feud between Bow Wow and Lil' Romeo has intensified, as Bow Wow has responded to comments Master P made surrounding the two rappers' growing beef. Lil' Romeo's father, Master P, confirmed that the two rappers had crossed paths backstage at Nickelodeon's Kids' Choice Award show, on April 1st. According to Master P, Bow Wow ran in his trailer and refused to talk about tensions with Lil' Romeo. Now, Bow Wow has come forward to address Master P and Lil' Romeo. "I can't understand all this, but I guess that's how it is when you ain't getting no attention," Bow Wow told AllHipHop.com. "You can hear me on the radio all day, every day. You [Lil' Romeo] can't sell no records, and your daddy is on Dancing With the Stars." Lil' Romeo was apparently offended at the line on the song "Fresh Azimiz," where Bow Wow claimed to be making more money than an unspecified person's father. Romeo released a diss to Bow Wow titled, "Hood Stars." Master P also accused Bow Wow's success of going to the rapper's head. "I just think Bow Wow done sold a couple records and got real cocky, and forgot where he came from," Master P said in a previous interview. Bow Wow dismissed Master P's allegations. "The crazy part is the line that got them all bent outta shape was an old LL line ("The Do Wop from LL Cool J's 1987 album Bigger and Deffer). That shows how much they know about Hip-Hop." Bow Wow also countered Master P's challenge to a Pay-Per-View boxing match between Romeo and Bow Wow. "If Romeo wanna make some real money, come sign with me," Bow Wow said. "Then, he wouldn't have to pull these stunts 'cause there ain't No Limit over here."

Dikembe Mutombo is currently the oldest player in the NBA at 39 years old, I think he's signed to play next year and back up Yao, he needs 35 blocks next year to pass Kareem Abdul-Jabar on the all time block shots list, he's currently 3rd with 3,154 blocks, he ain't gonna catch Hakeem Olajuwon who has 3,850 career blocks, he has about 11,000 points and 11,000 rebounds in his career too, he might get into the hall of fame one day but I think Shaq, Ewing, Olajuwon, Robinson, and Mourning'll probably get in before him, maybe even Kevin Willis 'cause of his longevity, the '90s was a great era for centers, there really ain't too many dominating centers now, Ben Wallace might get in the hall of fame himself one day, he's a Mutombo type player who plays great defense but then again he probably ain't gonna score 10,000 points so he won't make it but he got a ring which a lot of the great centers of the '90s didn't get

I heard the soundtrack had some good songs but it wasn't nothing groundbreaking by any means and the movie I didn't bother seeing either, I could care less about G-Unot...

Yeah DMC's album definately is an ecletic mix, check out Wyclef's albums too