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Yeah I read somewhere on SOHH.com, they had a long blog on it about how Fabolous made a mixtape song getting back at Mase 'cause Mase dissed him on a mixtape recently, I haven't personally checked the mixtapes for those disses though, I really don't care about either that much, there was quite a bit of people in that post though that said Fabolous is beating him right now and they don't respect Mase for going from a pastor back to a gangsta again, I'm sure LL ain't really happy about hearing Mobb Deep dissin' God in one of their recentsongs either, these rappers don't seem to have any morals: "50 Cent saved me not God"=A lost soul

Mase basically caved under pressure just to try to be more popular but those hardcore rap fans ain't gonna take him back again, he would run around in interviews and say that he was immature in the past doing that gangsta stuffand now he goes back to it 'cause his album flopped, that'd be like KRS putting a gun on all of his album covers instead of progressing, where's the integrity at? He needs to learn to practice what he preaches, Mase don't seem to thinkthat way, he hasn't matured,Fabolous is ripping the crap out of him right now btw

Will Smith Crashes Bar Mitzvah JERUSALEM - He never got an invitation and he certainly didn't R.S.V.P., but that didn't stop Will Smith from crashing Atir Cohen's bar mitzvah at Jerusalem's Western Wall. Cohen, 13, was deep into his Torah reading Thursday when he heard shouting and saw girls pushing against the barrier separating men from women at the holy site to catch a glimpse of the Hollywood superstar. "At first I didn't know who it was," Cohen said. Smith compensated for the interruption by shaking the bar mitzvah boy's hand and posing for a picture with him. Surrounded by a security detail, Smith approached the wall and put a note in the cracks in keeping with tradition. Smith and his wife, Jada Pinkett Smith, then took a tour of an excavated tunnel alongside the wall. The tour leader was Shmuel Rabinovitch, chief rabbi of the holy site, who said the couple took notes and spent several minutes praying. "He is a very nice man, he was very excited and showed his emotions," he said. Smith and his wife later visited the nearby Church of the Holy Sepulcher, built on the site where many Christians believe that Jesus was crucified.

MTV is really reaching here, if most of the rappers came out 15 years ago they'd been laughed out of the industry and been called a bunch of sellouts, it's sad to where the rap game has gone, a lot of these rappers don't have any individuality, at least Kanye tries some to be unique but a lot of the other ones are just carbon copies really of the image that record companies have been promotingand they don't really have that much skills either, they couldn't check a mic for Will if they all were performing at the same show, a lot of these rappers get booed off stage, so it's more like their cheap imitations more than anything, this list ain't really funny either, it's really sad to see where hip-hop has gone, MTV has become a disgrace, they went from Yo! MTV Raps to this crap?

I think the rap industry is too afraid to call out LL after what he's done to his competition, their short lived careers will be cut short earlier than expected :stickpoke: "Blueprint: LL Cool J" was a show where LL sat down with Big Tigger and chatted about his career and he performed a few of his hits like "Luv U Better" and "Doin' It", he said something interesting about battling about how a lot of these rappers today come off as corny when they beef with each other, they take it too personal, he thinks that rappers should just leave it on the mic and not run around like I'm gonna wreck his car 'cause he dissed me on a song, that'd be great if some of those wack rappers took him to heart and called him out for that and he finishes them off, that's just like he said on "We Gonna Make It", "We need less fake rappers and more real pastors", that could be a subliminal to Mase but he'd be too scared to call LL out for that, that'd be incredible though if Mase'd make a song about LL and LL could just finish Mase and the entire G Unit with just a few bars, that's all it'd take, I think that's something hip-hop heads would be looking forward too, 50 got love for LL so he'll make sure Mase won't do that, lol

The Game with only one album is an all time great? "The Documentary" had some good songs but that's not a classic either, I don't think it's an album that'll stand the test of time, that word classic gets thrown around too much, and don't get me started on Lil' Wayne: Will's worst album "Born To Reign">>>>>Lil' Wayne's career

I don't understand how people could consider Kanye one of the all time great mcs either, people diss LL for having a lot of guests on his new album but come on now he has more dope albums without features on it than Kanye has dope songs without features, come on now this guy had like 100 guest appearances on his 2 albums combined, Kanye's beats are dope but that doesn't make him a dope mc, that makes him a dope producer, being a dope mc has to do with flow, performance, lyrics, and he doesn't qualify to me, if it was a 60 minute album with Kanye's boring flow on the mic I think I'd go to sleep... :rofl:

Well I think a lot of these rappers here will be remembered for the decline of commercial rap if labels don't learn to sign more quality rappers in the next 10 years, album sales ain't really as high as they used to be, people are starting to lose interest, they're getting tired of the disposable rappers, we need a breath of fresh air to all this generic stuff to hit the airwaves, hopefully some real mcs like Kel Spencer could come in and take over the future of the rap game, Jay-Z should've offered him a record deal at Def Jam instead of signing generic pimp rappers like Young Jeezy and Rick Ross who only make hustlin' songs like everybody else does, it's a crime nobody signed him yet 'cause he could probably out wit the entire commercial rap scene at this moment: Kel Spencer's mixtape "Who Is Kel Spencer">>>>most albums MTV called classic there

Wow this list sucks ass, even Bow Wow's better than some of those they mentioned, mostly none of these should be mentioned among the all time greats, except Talib Kweli, he should be mentioned already actually

I think people are starting to get bored with commercial rap 'cause no commercial rap album released this year has been certified platinum yet and we're 3 3/4 months into 2006 already, I was looking at the Billboard charts yesterday in one of the hip-hop forums and I see that 2 country albums were certified gold in the first week so looks like rap might be overtaken as the most popular genre, people starting to put interests into other music instead it seems, lol,maybe if that pace could keep up for the rest of the year, maybe BET, MTV, and radio'll change their program, real hip-hop fans are finally starting to ignore it looks like

Yeah LL had creative freedom on this album, he knows how to make music that a lot of people could feel, with sales of 120,000 in the first week and a steady string of singles that could be released off this album he'll be hanging another platinum plaque on his wall soon, btw anybody watch "Blueprint: LL Cool J" on BET last night? I was able to only see a few minutes, I hope to catch the re-run to see the whole thing...

Master P kicked Bow Wow's ass supposedly during the Kid's Choice Awards :stickpoke: I don't really like Master P much but hey we could add him to the list that I made in another thread of all the peeps that got love for Will, Master P sucks as an mc but I think a lot of rappers learned how to be a smart buisiness man from all the things he's done, I respect his hustle...

Well due to eager anticipation here comes my popular opinion :wiggle: : There's a factor of different things to why people hate on Will, to keep this short it seems that to a lot of these haters that they ain't gonna respect Will unless he tears down their favorite rapper in a battle, it's like he has to stop being a nice guy and change who he is just to please 'em but you know what who really gives a ****, millions of people love him and that's all that matters, basically when it comes to haters their favorite rappers wish that they've had the career he's got, some of them like Fat Joe and TI would tell you that, btw Eminem ain't really hating on Will anymore, you really can't take what he says seriously anyway 'cause he even disses himself, he got psychological problems and a messed up life so it ain't his fault he says stupid ****, and deep down he's scared to battle Will that's why he didn't reply to "Mr. Nice Guy", he's actually a closet Will Smith/JJFP fan btw, he told Will back in '99 when they met in the studio that he grew up on JJFP and took some of his style from them, "Plenty of y'all love a brotha, just scared to say it", please stop all of the negative posts, Will's got plenty of postive things that he's been respected for and he's got quite a bit of hip-hop heads/artists that respect him Here's a list of SOME of the peeps who got love for Will: Public Enemy LL Cool J Nas Common Nick Cannon Kel Spencer Mary J. Blidge Slick Rick MC Lyte Fat Joe Jay-Z Eve Wyclef Jean Biz Markie The Roots Run-Dmc Russell Simmons Nelly Kanye West 2Pac(RIP) Left Eye(RIP) Queen Latifah Kool Moe Dee Snoop Dogg TI and even "the most hated man on the JJFP board" 50 Cent(How quickly y'all forget he gave props to Will in his song "What If" on his recent song on "GRODT soundtrack", "What If I made blockbuster hits like Will Smith?", believe me if he dissed Will there there'd be a thousand posts by now on it, lol) that doesn't even count other celebrities like Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Jamie Foxx, Tom Cruise, etc... + millions of fans like us>>>> anybody who hates on him Love is stronger than hate, that's all I gotta say, game, set, match....

Looks like this did it's purpose in getting all of us to talk about this like it's supposed to be LL vs. Jay here, maybe we should spread it around the net and it'll increase LL's album sales since people love beef so much... :kekeke: :stickpoke:

Well if there's that many real hip-hop heads out there, I think they should pay less attention to MTV and the radio and if their ratings go down then maybe you'll see a change happen, btw there should be less posts here about how 50 Cent is wack and more posts about how dope Public Enemy's new album is, giving attention to those who have a lot of attention already is not a smart thing to do, that's why I like posting on this board in the first place but lately it seems like there's been too much attention/complaining about who sucks than we think who's dope and I've been having less desire to post here 'cause of that negative energy, talk about what you're feeling, maybe I might discover something new, that's what I originally liked when I first came to this board...

I think if more would search for quality hip-hop instead of complaining what the radio plays then in fact I think the radio'd balance things out more 'cause the quality artists would be selling more, btw welcome to the board

Hip-hop is not defined by what's on the charts by those who truely are fans of it, real hip-hop heads will check for the quality artists even if they don't get played on the radio all the time, and if you gotta always just go by what gets played on MTV then I think that you ain't really a fan of hip-hop and just a casual listener, those who love hip-hop will learn to think beyond what MTV feeds us and go for a different meal, hip-hop can't lose it's soul to people like me that respect the history of the game and the artists with diverse styles, I ignore the ignorance but I think that a lot of these kids who are exposed to it will come around like I said in another thread when they get older and discover the heart of hip-hop unless they're just gonna remain casual listeners, hip-hop is not for sale, it's true expression that'll never die as long as there's artists that have thoughts to say to those who wanna listen

I have to agree with you here, Cam'ron looks hypocritical 'cause there's quite a bit of lines in his songs that were said by other rappers before, **** hits the fan really, it's not like his music is the most original either, there's quite a bit of elements that were talked about by other rappers, basically I think it's like when basketball players take moves by their heroes that they saw on TV growing up, it's really just paying homage to me, Will throws quite a bit of ol' school lines in his songs too and basically picked up on that feel good hip-hop style that artists like Sugar Hill Gang and Kurtis Blow incorporated earlier...

Well I think it's more of a thing where fans turn on the artists rather than artists turning on fans, artists grow but it seems that the fans want an artist to sound the same all the time, and there's a lot of times that an artist gets dissed for turning pop by their original fans but that's not really a bad thing, you can't stay in a box as an artist, some people just wanna see LL battle other mcs but he uses his talent now more to make great songs and there's nothing wrong with that, I might've also been trippin' out too when I was saying that Jay helping Nas is a bad thing it actually could be a great thing, 2 talented minds coming together could create the ultimate album that a lot could enjoy and after all being pop means being popular, if a lot of people buy your music that should be a positive thing, some people just don't wanna see growth it seems, come people wanna see Nas and Jay stay distant and beef but coming together and making great music is something that could be even more special, and I think Jay will gradually change his point of view on there not being rappers at 40 'cause I'm sure when he's 40 he'll probably still have the desire to record, it was just an ignorant comment that he'll realise he was wrong about... Some people probably look at Will the same way that some of us look at Jay or 50 and think that he only does it for the money but that's not true really 'cause music is something they've all been doing before they got record deals, and even if they never got another contract again they'd probably still do it, you can't please everybody though, there's millions out there that just do jobs for money and don't like what they're doing either so even if there is some rappers out there doing that, it's not like they're the only people in the world to act that way,and yeah it's hard to compare Public Enemy to groups of today 'cause times change and there's gonna be different types of groups today then there was back then, that's a part of life, hip-hop's a reflection of life, I'm not quite sure if it's growing for the better but it's definately evolving still 'cause it's the most popular music genre.... As much as I'd love to see kids be introduced by hip-hop to Rakim or Public Enemy, I gotta give recognition that those popular mcs like 50 Cent and Jay-Z introduce millions of them to hip-hop when they wouldn't check for it before and I think they'll look into other hip-hop artists when they get older, they'll want to hear more substance gradually and learn the history of the game beyond the radio, it's just like when Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer introduced millions of teenagers to hip-hop 15 years ago, gradually they'd check for other artists but if it wasn't for them selling 10 million when nobody else ever did before, maybe they wouldn't check out better artists like 2Pac, Snoop Dogg, Nas, and others that came after if those kids were never exposed to popular artists like Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer, they learned toeven check those who came out before Vanilla Ice and Hammer and learn the history of hip-hop if they still had interest in it, the game goes through cycles...

Jay is making Nas look like a punk to quite a bit of people, I mean it's cool that they squashed the beefs but damn it's not like they gotta hold each others hands, Jay should give Nas his space to create...

Speaking of Allhiphop.com, they interviewed Nick Cannon today, he talks about all the projects he's working on and collabing with Kanye on his album: Nick Cannon: Live and Direct By Dove ~Sheepish Lordess of Chaos~ I f you asked a friend about Nick Cannon a year or so ago, you might have heard the words “nice guy,” “Nickelodeon,” and “the second coming of Will Smith.” Ask about Nick now, and a lot more things come to mind. He’s got the Number One rated show on cable with his brainchild comedy hit, MTV’s Wild’N Out, a flurry of upcoming movies, a new album on the way, a clothing line and a youth foundation. He directs, produces, emcees, writes, acts – and on top of all that he’s heading up every aspect of his own record label, Can I Ball Records. AllHipHop.com nabbed the multi-talented CEO on one of his very hectic days to discuss the pros – without too many cons these days – of being Nick Cannon. AllHipHop.com: Obviously, you’ve addressed the comparisons to Will Smith in the media, and you get asked every day about [your break-up with] Christina Milian. Do you feel over the years that you’ve had any unreasonable pressure from your fans or from the media to be this superpower good guy all the time? Nick Cannon: A little bit, but I’ve grown content with it. I never set out to be a role model, I’d rather call it a real model. I’m just a real dude. A role is something that you play and put up a front, but I’m a real cat. So I’m gonna do some things that people are gonna really be impressed by and really think, “Wow he’s a good example.” But I’m not gonna always say or do what everybody thinks is the right thing, I’m gonna just do me. A lot of times, based on my morals and the way that I was raised, it happens to be a good example for young people out there. So I know that people are looking at me, but that doesn’t make me want to play a role - or I don’t feel like I’m in a position where I have to be a certain way. You’re not gonna agree with everything that I do, but you’re definitely gonna say that I achieved what I wanted to achieve. AllHipHop.com: You went from doing stand-up into TV, then to movies, and now you’re back on TV again. What have you taken from your early days on TV and your film experience into your show, Wild’N Out? Nick Cannon: It’s just a different situation, because the first job I had in TV was as a staff writer at 17. I was the youngest staff writer in television, I wrote for a couple of shows on Nickelodeon as well as the WB. That’s when I got the first taste of behind the scenes work. But this time around, I’m focused on actually running the show, me being in front of the camera is something extra this time. It’s not like that’s my main focus, that’s not my bread and butter this time. AllHipHop.com: With Wild’N Out, In the beginning you were a little nervous about what the reaction would be, or were you confident that people would finally catch on to it? Nick Cannon: I didn’t really care. [laughs] When I first did the show, I used my own money. I shot and produced it, and I didn’t even have a plan for it. I just did it because it was like a hobby to me. It was just something fun, it was something I wanted to have - me and my friends just wilding out. I sold it to MTV and I was shocked that they ordered so many episodes and put more money into it. Then it was just like they were paying me money to have fun. Based on the MTV audience, they always get good ratings regardless of what programming they have on. The same number of people are watching, so it’s a safe haven where they give me the freedom to do what I want. The fact that it ended up becoming the Number One show in cable is crazy to me because I didn’t expect that type of success. I was just wanting to have a good time and introduce my comedic friends to the world. I was actually kind of hoping for a cult following type of situation. I wasn’t really trying to jump out of the box with a huge successful show, I was just doing it for the people who enjoyed the same style of comedy and same sense of humor that I had. But it’s all great that it did do that. AllHipHop.com: Talk to us a little bit about your label situation over at Motown. Nick Cannon: The label is called Can I Ball Records. It’s pretty much me looking up to the Jay-Z’s and Biggie’s saying, “Can I ball? Can I get in? I do the same things y’all do’ It’s just me trying to finally get in my lane.” I’ve always been a producer - people didn’t know that I produce records, that I’ve been the music supervisor on my show, that I produce for other artists. It’s cool to be able to have your own lane, and this time around not really have an A&R on my project and be able to do everything I wanted to do myself. I oversee marketing and everything from promotions, which is cool because I do that in film and television as well. I’ve had my film and television company for almost five years now, so that’s the right thing to do to bring it all together and make this multimedia production company with Can I Ball Records being a element of it. AllHipHop.com: You have a video out with your first artist. Tell us about his project. Nick Cannon: Yeah, Izzy. He’s sick. He’s this kid I met when he was 16-years-old. He jumped on my tour bus wanting to battle me. [laughs] He’s real grimy, he was a kid from Southeast DC, and I had never seen anybody so hungry and so serious. He’s extremely talented, but I was more shocked by how serious he was about what he was doing. The kid was making thousands of dollars a month selling mixtapes of himself. I respected his hustle, I told him finish school and I’d fly him out to [see about starting] working with him. I did that, and when he got the opportunity we got it poppin’. AllHipHop.com: Not too long ago you purchased the PNB Nation clothing line, and you’ve been developing that. What are your plans in the next year for the clothing line? Nick Cannon: This year we’re just focusing on the premium line and getting the denim game up. Everybody knows I’m like a denim head, I’m a enthusiast when it comes to that. I always gotta try to have the flyest jeans and stuff, so I figured I might as well purchase PNB and focus on the type of jeans that I like to wear. We’re making a certain amount of custom pairs, only distributing them to the tastemakers and making sure they’re available in boutique stores before we go mass market with it. I really want to build the brand back up, because it’s had so much credibility over the years and I’ve been such a fan. I don’t want to lose any of that, I just want to put the urban luxury style on it. That’s the only thing I think was missing where people outside of the Hip-Hop community could be introduced to it. I’m trying to hit Milan up the next Fashion Week - I’m feeling this fashion thing. AllHipHop.com: Aren’t you working on another new movie too? Nick Cannon: A few movies - I just left Madrid shooting this movie with David Beckham, it’s a soccer movie. That was the last thing that I did, I actually stopped in the middle of it because I go back to shooting in June at the World Cup. I did an animated film that comes out in July called Monster House with Kevin James. I did an independent film with the same director who did Bomb The System - that was at Sundance last year called, Weapons. It’s a real dark independent film. I did a movie called Bobby with Anthony Hopkins and Sharon Stone. AllHipHop.com: What was it like working with Anthony Hopkins? Nick Cannon: It was crazy, being on set with “Hannibal Lechter.” I remember doing this scene where I was crying and throwing stuff, he came up to me like, “That was an amazing job.” I was like, “Wow, Anthony Hopkins told me I did a great job.” AllHipHop.com: What about Sharon Stone? What was it like working with her? Nick Cannon: Sharon Stone is funny, she’s cool. She’s a regular person, she walks around and talks to everybody, being friendly. AllHipHop.com: I’m sure it’s kind of surreal to you at times because you’ve worked your way up to this superstardom range where you’re recognized everywhere. Is there ever a point where you pinch yourself and go, “I can’t believe I’m standing here on this set doing this?” Nick Cannon: Not really - not ‘til after the set. The majority of the time, I’m so focused that I’m just there to get the job done and try to move onto the next stage. Sometimes I sit back afterwards like, “Man this is amazing.” You go somewhere and you see billboards in Times Square for Wild’N Out, I remember sitting around sketching and drawing what I wanted the logo to look like. Now it’s in Times Square 20 feet high, that’s crazy. AllHipHop.com: You’re working on your new album right now. Considering that your first album did well and you’ve definitely built a lot more of a reputation for yourself as an artist, what do you feel like this time around you focus is? Do you have a plan similar to your last album or are you going in different directions? Nick Cannon: Just showing the growth as an artist, as a man and as a businessman. I didn’t try to reinvent the wheel or anything like that. I worked with Kanye, he’s the only other producer on my album besides myself. The advice he gave me was to make sure it’s really something that’s a reflection of me, and that I’m talking about me. Nobody wants to hear about anything else, they want to hear about my story. I was trying to put my story down. AllHipHop.com: How do you find time in your day to do all of these things? Nick Cannon: I don’t sleep. [laughs] No sleeping plus [Attention Deficit Disorder] will get you a long way.

It might be worse than "Nastradamous" though, he don't need to try to rap like 50 or those other pop rappers that they play in clubs, at least Jay gives LL creative freedom :paperbag:

Some kids do have respect for the older artists, Chuck D goes to give lectures at colleges and kids'll come up to him and have him autograph albums for them, btw I think all record labels are the same if you look at it, Def Jam ain't really that better than Interscope or Columbia, just 'cause Nas signed to Def Jam doesn't mean he's gonna sell 4 million all of a sudden, unless Jay and Kanye fans all jump on the Nas bandwagon, lol, he'll probably still do the same numbers that he did on Columbia for "Street's Disciple" and "God's Son" unless he completely changes his style to sound mainstream, which wouldn't be that good of an album though, he's better at the type of songs he makes right now, like I don't like that idea about Jay saying he's gonna take Nas to clubs and see what people like listening to then going to make the album, Nas has only been rapping for 15 years, he knows how to make good music already, he has over a million loyal fans already that appreciate his music, if that's the case then the next Nas album will be nothing but money, cash, and hoes which only teens will feel and the original fans'll feel alienated?! :kekeke:

I was reading the testominal on MTV.com for Jay and they damn nearly did a whole paragraph on how he got his own clothing line and he owns the Nets, I mean what the hell does that have to do with being a #1 mc of all time? They should just talk about his music, what you do outside the music does not make you a better mc, Will was mocking that thought in "Freakin' It" about how some of these people judge hip-hop mcs instead of by skills: "How do you judge a real mc?, Is it the sales?(20 mil), Is it the cars?(Bentleys), Is it the women?(Jada), Is it the money?, (Please??!!") maybe if DMX owned the Knicks and Will owned the Sixers they'd put them in the top 10 too, DMX stays out the spotlight when he don't make records(except when arrested, lol) and even Will stays on a low for a while too when he don't release music or movies but you see Jay everywhere all the time, you can't seem to escape him, he always interviews, he's always on TV, they throw the camera on him if I watch the Nets game, so he's the political choice at #1, he's somebody everyone's familar with...

Yeah I gradually think that the teens will mature and be able to catch on to better music, I mean when I was 13 years old I use to listen to the radio a lot more, my tastes changed and I wanted to hear music with more substance and the same'll gradually happen to today's teens as they get older too and yes I think LL was originally planning to leave Def Jam after they didn't promote "G.O.A.T. Featuring James T. Smith, The Greatest Of All Time" that well but Russell Simmons who was the president still at the time of Def Jam along with Lyor Cohen gave him a deal that basically sets LL for life, he owns his entire catalog so that means he's getting a bigger profit than most artists on major labels get, you could buy any of LL's albums and he'll be getting a good profit from it, rarely any artists in the music industry have the kinda contract, that's Michael Jackson status, although LL seems to manage his money better, lol, so LL got no problems with Def Jam, as long as Jay don't mess with his contract I think it's all love, lol...