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There wasn't really an apology though, that lil' pup basically said: "Me and Will are cool now but I think his music sucks, if you go back and read my comments I was saying his music is bubblegum, not his movies, I talk about more pimp stuff than that pansy'll ever talk about, the ladies think I'm sexier, don't compare my music to his, I'm so much better, btw I respect him though..." :hmm: The reason why people don't diss Nas and LL is 'cause they don't delay in responding to their critics, Will's a nice guy and ignores critics so people take advantage of that, that's why I hope what he said is true 'cause he needs to speak up more often then nobody'll diss him, no more Mr. Nice Guy suckas!!! btw, Bow Wow's career won't end unless he stops making bubblegum songs for lil' girls to sing along to or some other young face comes to take his place, it was funny to read that his hardcore fans hate him though, 99% of his fans don't exist, just a bunch of bandwagoners, lol...

promoting "mr. nice guy"/"pump ya brakes" is also a good idea, fp could market some sales off of the bow wow beef

There's a lot of people approving what Will said about Bow Wow so I expect Will's sales to increase, he needs to release "Pump Ya Brakes" and clown that fool with Snoop in the video!!!

No More Mr. Nice Guy, hopefully this motivates FP to comeback to being a fulltime mc, he needs to show the world that he's an mc first before an actor so these kiddies'll stop dissin' his mc skills..."Ain't no better man on this hype track, it's the veteran taking the mic back"

Producers Plan To Sue Diddy; Diddy Responds By EbenGregory and Nolan Strong Date: 1/25/2006 5:06 pm A group of super producers that helped forge the sound of Bad Boy Entertainment into a hit factory are planning to a file a lawsuit against Sean "Diddy" Combs, alleging non-payment of publishing royalties. "Any monies owed to anyone are either paid or are in the process of being paid -- and, furthermore, will always be paid,” Combs told AllHipHop.com, refuting the charges. “It doesn't do any good -- and makes no sense at all to not pay people -- what logical sense would it make for a record company of Bad Boy's stature to not pay people?" Producers Clark Kent, Easy Moe Bee, Lord Finesse and others are planning to file the suit against Combs, with some of the producers claiming they haven't seen royalty statements or received payment in upwards of 10 years. Buckwild, Carlos Broady, The Hitmen, Loon, Craig Mack, Angela Winbush and others are among the producers seeking unpaid royalties from Bad Boy Entertainment, according to a press release issued by representatives for Easy Moe Bee. "This is not personal against Puff [Combs]," Lord Finesse told AllHipHop.com. "This is just a royalty and publishing situation. A lot of people didn't get paid." The group of producers are responsible for writing and producing major Bad Boy hits like "Whoa!," "I Love the Dough," "Flava In Ya Ear," "Warning," "Get Down," "I Need a Girl," "Been Around the World," "One More Chance," "Missing You," "Born Again," "Dead Wrong," "Sky's the Limit" and many others. Representatives for Bad Boy Entertainment and Combs did respond to requests for comment at press time

Here's another source from a radio station site, probably the one he was on, enough evidance yet?: :wiggle: As much as some of y'all might not like that Will responded but basically 99% of the people who heard that Will said this is agreeing with those statements and that's not a bad thing, Will killed Bow Wow's career with one line, if Will denies he said this a lot of peeps'll be dissapointed!! http://www.wpxy.com/Detail.aspx?dct=15&mid=272#1416

Will did a great job in his response and even if someone did make it up they did a great job spreading it around the internet, Bow Wow's being humiliated, you gotta love it!! :yeah:

http://forums1.sonymusic.com/groupee/forum...11/m/8491008755

Johnny post a link man I wanna see it!!!!! I think somebody like Vipa should blend together some of Will's lines to haters and make it like the ultimate diss song...

Exactly, Will didn't necessarily diss Bow Wow in that quote either compared to the junk Bow Wow was saying in that AllHipHop Interview, Will handled it with class, I'd said something more harsh than that, Will was just speaking the truth, but that lil' punk said: "Me and Will are cool now but I think his music is bubblegum, not his movies though, I kill him on the mic but in the movies is what he's great at, I respect him for that, but not music, I ain't trying to be put in the same sentence as Will, my music is better.", is that really an apology from Bow Wow? How'd you feel if somebody called you soft for 20 years when you don't start beef with anybody? Wouldn't you feel like answering back? Come on now? No matter how much money or fame somebody has, they always have to protect their pride, they can't just let people walk on them and get away with it: "This is warning shot over the bout, truth be told this ain't my style, there's certain stuff a man can't allow, don't bark yourself up a tree you can't get down, people dissin' Will sat on a wall, people dissin' Will had a great fall, all the kings horses and all the kings men, could never put their career together again" :willvspaparazzi:

Nah, that lil' punk don't deserve any promotion, although maybe if I get me a mic I'll do a freestyle and ether him myself!!! :bat:

"Pump Ya Brakes" is basically a dedication to Bow Wow, it'd be awesome if Snoop and Will did a video for that, that'd Ether Bow Wow's career!!! :pony:

Nick Cannon and Christina Milian broke up months ago, I think he started going with Lindsey Lohan for a while too, now he's with Brandy, he's a playa!! btw, I saw that season 2 of "Wildin' Out" comes out on February 2nd... Why don't the quote sound like Will? It's got that Fresh Prince sense of humor to it!!!

Jay's not finished responding: The two biggest questions rap fans want answered right now are: What does Jay-Z think about Cam'ron coming at him on wax? And now that Nas is on Def Jam, how do God's Son and Hova plan to smash the rap game? First things first — Cam is holding a press conference Wednesday (January 25) in New York to discuss what the streets are calling his "beef" with Hova. As for Killa Cam's "You Got It" dis record (see "Cam'ron Attacks Jay-Z With Dis Track 'You Got It' "), Jay said he's not sure he'll respond with his own dis record. Jigga said he's never had any problems with Cam, though he admits the two never bonded while Cam was on Roc-A-Fella. "My thing is, it's such an obvious ploy for attention and to get people to talk about it and for sell albums," Jay said Tuesday, speaking to MTV News from a company retreat. Even though Jay says he knows Cam's master plan, he's conflicted. On one hand he feels he's too big to stoop to Cam's level, but on the other hand, the MC in him is itching to retort with battle raps. "I'm torn," he admitted. "I feel like I would be stupid to even pay that any attention, because it's such a ploy. ... N---as is holding press conferences behind . The MC in me is like, 'That's too easy ' That's not even a good dis record. That sh-- is trash. I'm torn. We'll see what happens. Maybe on my time we'll deal with it, but I'm not really pressed. I'm inspired by good artistic sh--. Cam's sh-- is not artistic. There's nothing good about it. Everything about it is an obvious ploy to get attention. Nobody wants to get used. You're just using me. Of course he had to go that far." One of the brow-raisers in Cam's song comes at the beginning, when he says part of his disdain for Hov came about because Jay had wronged former partner Dame Dash in their business dealings. Speaking to New York radio station WQHT-FM, Cam also said Dame had tipped him off that Jay would be coming at him during last year's "I Declare War" concert (the show turned out to be all about peace; see "Jay-Z And Nas Put Beef To Sleep In Onstage Show Of Unity"). Jay called Dame's involvement in the equation "shocking" and said he hasn't spoken with his once close friend about Cam and has no plans to. "To be honest with you, that's the most surprising thing," Jay said calmly. "I'm still in shock, to be honest with you." No one was really surprised this week when it was announced that Nas had signed to Def Jam (see "Nas Signs With Jay-Z, According To Report"). The two had been in talks for a while and performed two nights of shows in October. Hov said there probably will not be a Jay and Nas album, but he does expect to do at least a song with Nas. "I'm guessing like September, fall, so we can do it right," Jay said of when he expects Nas' LP to drop. Nas has been recording material for months, but Hov thinks he'll start fresh with his new deal in place. "I didn't hear the stuff he did before, but I'm guessing it'll be a new slate." Jay added that he hopes Nas will connect with some of the best producers in the game, such as Kanye West, DJ Premier, Just Blaze, Dr. Dre, Timbaland and Pharrell Williams, though he hasn't ruled out Nas teaming with some up-and-coming beatmakers. He said his former rival is in such a great headspace, he wouldn't be surprised if Nas made the best album of career. " for so many different levels," he said. "One, he's been at the forefront of hip-hop since he's been out. is arguably one of the best albums ever made. To have that down with the team, it's just a beautiful thing. Two, it says so much about the culture. It shows another way. always portrays us like we're ignorant. It shows another ending. I think it's bigger for the culture." While the Nas album isn't due for several months, Jay is so excited about the albums coming out on Def Jam this year — including Ghostface Killah and LL Cool J — he contemplated dropping an album himself, but he's since rethought it and will continue to play the executive role. And it's a part he's been playing to the fullest. Jay's team is on the brink of adding one or two more major players, but it's too early to name names, he said. http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1521548/2...?headlines=true

That's the point though people think Will's a puss 'cause he ignores when they diss him, he needs to answer them back so they could let the man live without dissin' him, ain't you tired of hearing people constantly diss him?!!! He has the skills and the money to put all these fools out of a record contract but he's been a nice guy trying to let them have a career but I think he should stop doing that, he could make these words become a reality if he wanted to: "I'm a poet so I own the whole rap industry" he needs to come at them hard to teach them a lesson, hopefully this motivates him to get back and do classic albums with Jazzy, start his own label and promote albums the way he wants to, he should get a street team that'll be demanding the black radio stations to play his songs, he needs to dominate the game so these studio gangstas could fall off, ain't you tired of the way hip-hop is now??!!! Will's not a punching bag for every young rapper to come up and take cheap shots at him... That's a cheap ass apology to say "Me and Will talked and we're cool now, btw I was dissin' his music, my music is so much realer than his, I don't wanna be compared to that puss, I listen to G Unit all the time, not him, I like his movies though..." is basically what Bow Wow said didn't he? He sounds like the average G Unit groupie that says that to me all the time... It makes me wanna get a record deal that much harder so I could help kick ass with FP to bring hip-hop with heart back on top!!!... Will could make a change, he's been holding back, hopefully all this criticism by studio gangstas puts movies on the backburner for a lil' while so he could confirm it to the public that he's born to be an mc, not act, they'll be bowing down to him and begging that he sticks with acting after he finishes off their careers!!! Maybe Trey's friends like Bow Wow, who knows why Will'd consider responding, lol?!! Bow Wow's worthless but a bunch of younger rappers might think hey if Will don't respond when this lil' punk disses him let me diss him too but they'll think twice though if he responds back like this .... He responds to his critics in his songs so I don't see the difference in doing it in interview, weren't you callin' Bow Wow a piece of **** in the podcast? Will didn't say that, callin' Bow Wow a piece of **** sounds like something Mike Lowry would say, I didn't see Will use one curse word when he responded in that quote, I don't know if I'd be able to hold off like that, everything he said in there is true, Bow Wow wasn't born when Will cut his first record and his worst movie 'Wild Wild West" is better than anything Bow Wow's every made in film, that lil' dude needs to work on his skills before he could mention somebody's name in an interview like that..

I think that's why Will said "I had the strength to say gangsta rap was wack", it was probably a sublimal diss to MC Ren who said Will was wack 'cause he don't live in the 'hood anymore, a lot of those battles then were to help mcs skills get better, it was competition to help them work harder, but you see 50 Cent and Bow Wow run their mouths without making any good songs...

MC Ren dissed Will, not Ice Cube...

Well Bow Wow's album was looking like it wouldn't go gold before the song with Ciara, she's the reason why Bow Wow's shipped platinum now 'cause she's the "it" girl right now!! Like AJ said a lot of these cats out now need collabs to sell their album but Will released one single with just himself and he went platinum, Will don't need collabs to sell records, Bow needs to work with all these watered down singers on the charts now to do his bubblegum rap to save his career, he better be giving half of his check to Ciara... I think definately if Cassidy could get his life together he'll be the other young option in the commercial rap world that'd knock Bow's fanbase, even Nick Cannon could top Bow Wow's career if he records more often 'cause he's cool with legends like Will and Biz Markie... 50 Cent's gonna lose his fanbase to Game who's a much better mc at gangsta rap than 50 and Ice Cube's making a comeback so that should seal 50's career...

I'd rather see Juelz Santana be the future face of hip-hop than Bow Wow, he don't go around dissin' the legends of the game by saying he's better than them, in fact he works with some of them, Rakim was in his "Mic Check" video and he recently did a song with LL, sure he ain't the greatest lyricist in the world but at least he writes his lyrics, unlike that lil' puss, Juelz'd crush him in a battle, Juelz freestyles are better than Bow Wow's albums, I'd love to see him outsell Bow Wow...

Well it never stopped me from buying R. Kelly's music or being his fan, if it was something serious he'd be in jail anyway, besides his music is too great to front on listening to even if he did rape somebody who am I to judge? As long as he's staying out of trouble now and making music for me to listen to...It's like even with Kobe, you gotta give him his props for scoring 81 points even though he cheated on this wife, Cassidy ain't a music MVP yet though so I don't care much for him but if he put out something good I'd listen to him, James Brown's one of the greatest artists of all time but he has had a lot of trouble in the law too in his life but that don't mean I'm gonna stop listening to him...

It's situations like this that gives a bad image for hip-hop!! These artists need to stay out of trouble... Everybody still buys R. Kelly's albums even though he was caught on tape raping young girls so I don't think Cassidy'll lose fans either, controversey sells...

Maybe secretly Cam'ron's paying Jigga for publicity....

That's a smart way to respond, I'm impressed!! :2thumbs:

Yeah Slick Rick went to prison for shooting somebody but he did it 'cause the guy threathened to kill his wife I think, Cassidy probably did it out of defense too, I don't think he'd just wanna throw his life away and just shoot somebody for no reason, it's retarted though that Slick Rick went to jail for years and the guy never died but in this case the guy dies and Cassidy only gets a few months...

Well you can't deny that Pac was sentenced to jail, whether or not he did or not you wouldn't know, you don't know if Cassidy did it either 'cause you weren't there, so stop hating on somebody, everybody and their lawyers deny that they do something, none of us are perfect...