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A lot of the so call mcs who say they keep it real go ride the gangsta rap bandwagon, so I don't really know who's so real. What is a conscious mc like Rakim doing giving props to Eminem and Dr. Dre but then he ignores giving props real mcs that continually put out positive music like LL and Will? Gangsta rap is getting enough props already, more props should be giving to the mcs that put out positive music since the media blackballs them, all these so called conscious rappers should rally around the real mcs putting it down trying to clean the game up, but then they turn around and give props to the arrogant rappers like Kanye and 50 instead... Will gives props to everybody, he's the ultimate team player that's why he's a real mc, if you're gonna constantly fight with another mc and saying he ain't real or only give props to a certain amount of mcs, hip-hop'll remind divided, if Will goes out and disses Kanye and 50 like he could but that'd 'cause more negative energy than anything, yes 50 and Kanye are ignorant but they could learn if Will could guide them as a mentor... We gotta bridge the gap not break it apart, I think KRS going around criticising Nelly all the time is not gonna wake Nelly up, if he treats Nelly like another man maybe Nelly'd still respect him like he did before KRS started bashing him for no reason just 'cause Nelly's selling more records than him, all KRS had to do was talk to him on the phone or on the side and there wouldn't be no hype or drama.... Music is music, some hip-hop is quality, some isn't, it depends on what you like, everyone should stop hating on each other so much though... I'm finishing my rant in this thread with this comment by what MC Hammer said in an interview 10 years ago which is so relevant and true: "Well my last comments would be life is too precious and Too Short for us not to appreciate it. Let's not let music, something we all grew up on, everything from Marvin Gaye to the Temptations, control us. We use to use the music to cherish the moment. If something meant something to us, we would go get the record and reminisce. Let's not let the music of today mean anything thing else than something we listen to for enjoyment. And let that uplift you and be a blessing to your life versus something that is pulling you down."

Kanye ain't the only one contradicting himself, I think a lot of mcs young and old contradict themselves, I only like KRS for his music 'cause I notice how he makes a lot of ignorant and offensive comments in interviews, but once he starts slacking off in his music I won't feel him anymore at all, that's why I think Will and only a handful of other mcs are real on and off the mic, it's like I'd buy another "Born To Reign" if Will continues to be a real person, I think being a real person is worth more than anything....

:word: This could push the album to platinum status, a lot of ignorant kids who post on these sites need to be schooled, btw I wrote a reply email to him, basically this is what the article would consist of if I wrote it: "What up Illsead, nuff respect for showing love to Will Smith in that column, it's about time that the hip-hop media shows love to one of the realest brothas that has ever touched the mic, it takes a lot of heart to make hip-hop albums in an industry where 99% of the hip-hop albums get the top promotion are the ones with parental advisory stickers. I'm a hip-hop head that appreciates all hip-hop but I respect Will since he brings something different to the game and has held it down quite well on the microphone and on the movie screens, I know that a lot of mcs respect Will, even Bow Wow but they'll diss him 'cause a lot of the media ****s on Will 'cause he ain't hardcore and I find that bull****, we need more peeps in the media like you that appreciate all mcs, not just the gangsta ones. Hip-hop wouldn't be the same without the impact Will and his partner Jazzy Jeff brought to hip-hop, he's one of a kind to me and one of my favorite mcs of all time no matter what anyone else says, he's been in the game as longer than most of these gangsta rappers teenyboppers worship today since that's all they see on TV and radio, mcs like Will deserve to be on black radio, Public Enemy put out an album recently but yet they don't say **** on the radio, it's bull****, the pioneers of the game don't deserved to be pushed to the side, they should be on the frontline leading future mcs like Bow Wow. I'm only 20 years old but I appreciate hip-hop's history unlike a lot my age, I bet you'll probably get a lot of email from kids saying that you were corny for giving props to Will but I bet they never even heard any of Will's albums, they just think Will's wack 'cause he ain't on Hot 97 all day, a lot don't know what to think for themselves 'cause the radio programs their minds. It's refreshing to see somebody from the hip-hop media give love to an mc that ain't just rhyming about hoes, jewlery, and guns 'cause all kinds of mcs deserve to be recognised if they put due in, keep up the good work man. One love! -Gracia Miller Jr. Seaside Heights, New Jersey"

Yeah there's an article saying that Will went on Rap City in 2000 saying that he could take on any mc in the game, he might of did a freestyle that day, I wouldn't know though 'cause I didn't see that show.... Anyways, probably the only way Will'd be on there again is probably on Throwback Thursdays, that's the only time they let ol' school rappers in....

Now back to the topic, there ain't gonna be no Kanye/50 beef, Kanye said in this recent interview on Allhiphop.com that he has no problems with 50, he's right how media twists comments to start a beef... Kanye shouldn't call somebody else's music garbage anyway 'cause it ain't like all his songs are perfect, nobody has a perfect catalog, I think that was just hype and it works 'cause it got us talking, I noticed that there when I was looking at Will's article: http://www.allhiphop.com/features/?ID=1291 "AllHipHop.com: Now check this out, in 2005, 50 Cent said that he made it possible for you to be successful. Care to comment on that? Kanye West: Yeah that's my boy. People distort our comments because, people just don't speak honestly about a person. I could say a statement that...it's all in how you word something. I could say a statement like that about [Jay-Z’s] Blueprint album that could come off differently or could be taken in the wrong way. But that doesn't mean that’s reality. I don't have a problem with anybody. And even if a person has a problem with me I don't have a problem with them."

Rap City has sucked ever since Big Tigger left....

Well the thing is when a lot of artists get high record sales or get the acclaim from the media as the greatest artist, they let that get to their heads and go around with their head in the clouds like the whole world evolves around only them, Will never does, and that's what seperates him from who a lot of people call legends 'cause he ain't souped up, he'll show love to everybody even if they don't show love back, also speaking what he feels in his heart is right even if the media don't agree with him, and that's real, Will could've easily kissed up to certain people then maybe his sales would be higher than they are now and souless people would call him a legend but he'd look a lil' fake, he's a legend already to those who appreciate somebody with heart and that's what should matter most....

Well DefCem, maybe you're right they probably wanna meet him so they could jump him since he's a soft rapper and they're gangstas :lolsign: It's nice to know that they think Will exists whether they like him or not, let's leave it at that, what some artist says a compliment it doesn't persuade me to go out and listen to their music but if it's something real negative like what Bow Wow said then I won't listen to them again 'cause if they don't respect my favorite mc I don't respect them. A lot of young and old hip-hop artists, wack or legendary, act like Will ain't even a part of the hip-hop community the way that they ignore him, and it's a shame 'cause Will opened doors for a lot of new school mcs and has kept ol' school hip-hop alive, he deserves more recognition, but a lot are too worried about being dissed by the media. They don't realise though if they rebelled against the media and supported a positive brotha that's been ignored like Will, hip-hop would get better: "Plenty of y'all love a brotha, just scared to say it" Now that Will's the person of the year, maybe they'll all realise it's safe to mention Will as a part of hip-hop now.... :word:

:bowdown: Great stuff, wow that article really embarasses that punk Bow Wow, about time the media takes Will's side instead of spitting on him for a change!! :willvspaparazzi:

Damn that's nearly from nearly 20 years ago and those words are basically what I'm saying now, the game just has more hype than ever 'cause rap is more famous now :word: Another line that's still relevant when it comes to Will compared to the other mcs that're just about hype: "After ever rapper tells you jump I'm gonna give you what you really want"

Well don't get it twisted, JJFP is my favorite hip-hop artists of all time, if anybody takes a shot at either Will or Jeff, they're gonna get dissed, no matter how much I like them, like if even my 2nd favorite mc LL dissed Will I'd lose respect for him too, like I'm probably gonna still occasionally bump KRS' music but I don't know I could say that I'm as big of fan of his now, maybe if somebody disses him I won't passionately defend him anymore since he don't defend Will and I won't tell anyone about his albums either, let them discover him on their own, I'm a JJFP potna not a KRS potna.... :jusmindyabizness:

Halle Berry and J-Lo would be the two that I'd vacation with :yeah: :jusmindyabizness: Anyways it's like what Jazzy says, it's all about money now, the richest artists in hip-hop are the ones that get their ass kissed: "Then, the rivalries in hip-hop were about "I'm the best DJ" or "I'm the best MC." It just seems now that's it's about "I have more money" and "no, I have more money." Where did all the skill level go? Now it's like the best rapper is the one that makes the most money" Even a lot of conscious rappers play that game now too by only publicly giving props to the big ballers of the rap game like Eminem and Jay-Z, they might have love for less popular/money making mcs but they won't say it especially if they don't have that top image in the media, like rappers won't give Will public respect if he don't get on black radio, they might secretly bump his albums, maybe even congradulate him behind closed doors, lol... They actually diss Will as a way to boost their image publicly like Bow Wow for instance, he saw that "Lost and Found' was outselling his so he decides to diss Will and his crap album outsells "Lost and Found" now...Rakim probably doesn't consider Eminem a conscious rapper but he said it to give some shine to himself, he hopes that if Eminem fans hear him giving Eminem props, they'll go out and buy Rakim's albums and better yet want him to go to Shady Records... Em's a hardcore comedy rapper, I don't think a conscious rapper raps about killing his wife and mother... Will got a lot of money but that's mostly from movies, he don't have a label or anything like that, that's why a lot don't kiss up to him, but a lot of actors might kiss up to Will 'cause of that too though, maybe if he wasn't making $20 million a film maybe they wouldn't say how great of an actor he is, a lot of them probably say that to get a co-role spot in one of his movies, lol, 'cause if you think about it when you hear somebody giving Will props for acting you might automatically say, "hey Will should do a movie with __ since this person respects him", lol, all industries are like that, it's sad: "Could you love me if my wrist ain't bling/If I wasn't on TV and I didn't sing?"...

I don't think Ying Yang Twins wanna talk about Will's lyrics when they do preschool rhymes, lol, crunk rappers ain't really lyricists, they're more just hype men, Will don't need people to kiss his ass, he's had plenty of success already without it, what Ying Yang Twins said is props though, anything positive said about somebody is a prop, obviously they're fans of Will if they wanna meet him, I don't see Rakim saying anything postive about Will, Will could probably take him out at this point too, people just talk about how great Rakim was from the past, in the last 10 years he can't touch Will though, Will was putting down right with Rakim then too so he really deserves to be ranked at the top of the all time mcs list since he's lasted the test of time with 9 albums strong, you can't argue against it.... Sadly though mcs are gonna take Will for granted 'cause he's a nice guy, if he started to call out mcs and battled them I think then they'd all give his props, he has the skills to take out a lot of young and old mcs, they know it too, they might take lil' shots at him here and there but if Will steps on stage they wouldn't diss him then, they respect his skills deep down but they won't say it to the media 'cause the media considers Will soft and they don't wanna hurt their image, they figure giving props to the hardcore rapper'll put some life into their dying fanbase who all became hardcore rap fans.... Peeps should be able to see that from his catalog he shouldn't have to turn into a bitter old man and battle everybody just to get his respect or sign mcs that really don't respect him just to get respect, the rap industry's messed up....

I saw that posted on a hip-hop board a couple weeks ago, maybe they're just bringin' it out now to promote Em's greatest hits, they figure maybe they'll actually get some of Eminem's haters to buy it if they do this.... :willvspaparazzi: I think that if Eminem didn't have Shady Records or Dr. Dre didn't have Aftermath Records, nobody'd be giving them props either, and if Will actually said he was gonna sign mcs on a label they'd kiss his ass, but since he ain't doing that they don't, a lot of love that they show is fake, just like when Ja Rule was selling 5 million albums and having a lot of success with his Murder Inc label, lots of rappers would be giving him props then all of a sudden a year later his album flops and his label's caught in a scandal, then you see all the rappers who used to say they like Ja Rule all of a sudden side with 50 Cent and call Ja wack, he ain't the greatest mc in the world but I was showin' an example of how you could see that there's only a few real people in the rap industry, a lot of those so called postive rappers seem to not practice what they preach, like when some ignorant fools like Em and Bow Wow diss Will, the ol' school peers should come defend him but they look at the charts and see that Will ain't selling as well as Em and Bow Wow so they shut up but if Will was outselling them both and had a label you'd see lots of rappers come defend Will....

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I find it kinda ironic that a lot of the young hip-hop artists like Ying Yang Twins and Nelly ain't afraid to express their respect for Will than the ol' school hip-hop artists like KRS and Rakim seem to, maybe a lot of Will's ol' school peers are jealous that he's selling more albums and having more success than them, once again I'd have to say that I ain't feelin' Ying Yang Twins 'cause I don't like much crunk rap, nothing against them, it just ain't my style, nice to know they appreciate Will though.... btw, I know certain ol' school mcs like LL, Chuck D, Slick Rick, Kool Moe Dee, Run-DMC, Biz Markie, MC Lyte, and Heavy D ain't afraid to express their love for JJFP, but what about Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Q-Tip, Scarface, Kool G Rap, and KRS-ONE, is there anything that they've said about Will in a major article that I have missed? I think Will shows them love but they never return the favor, I see more of them jumping on Eminem's balls than I do them showing love to Will which is a shame... I can't seem to find quotes of showing love from them, I actually found a quote where KRS disses Will by saying that Eminem that had the right to say "f*** Will Smith" since Will didn't contribute much for hip-hop which shocked me like I said in that Nelly thread, it pains to know that the other ol' school mcs I like don't seem to show as much love to Will as I thought they would, he's keepin' ol' school alive and deserves more love from them, at least some kids comin' up respect the legend....

Flava Flav always says that he's working on it when he's interviewed, he should just release it through SlamJamz which is Public Enemy's record label....

:word: If you gotta sit around the radio worrying about new rappers coming out, you must not have much confidance in your skills, he should focus on making a great album instead of worrying about who's coming out, that's what it should come down to.... Honestly is it really that hard to write a comeback to songs on the radio? Is it really something to lose sleep over?

Well they both took shots at each other back in the days so actually it ain't much of a surprise if you really think about it, "Got dropped off of MCA 'cause the rhymes you wrote was wack/You tried to take out LL while your homeboys were on crack"-KRS-ONE "South Bronx" "When I'm on the microphone I want silence/Not KRS-ONE's "Stop The Violence"-LL Cool J "Murdergram" KRS probably don't like LL 'cause he's ain't a conscious rapper, I don't see him acknowledging LL when he's interviewed but LL does give KRS props in interviews though, LL keeps it on wax but I think KRS takes it a lil' too personal, he actually said in one of his interviews that he writes down a new rhyme everytime he hears a new rapper on the radio just in case they diss him :rofl:

When I heard about Nelly doing "The Longest Yard", I was thinking: "Damn not another weak performance by a rapper in a movie again" but actually he did quite well, surprised me... I think LL went on tour with Nelly around the time that KRS and Nelly were battlin' and I remember hearing in one of KRS' songs at time where he said: "You need to rethink who you think is the greatest of all time" maybe referring to LL's album called "G.O.A.T.", maybe he was dissin' LL too, but he wouldn't come out and say LL's name 'cause he knows that LL'd finish him off since LL's one of the most respected mcs that's still on top of the game, he probably just dissed Nelly 'cause he knows that Nelly's not the strongest lyricist in the world and is not a battle rapper, he wouldn't call out LL....

Will laughed it off at the time though, he didn't respond to Eminem, I don't know why KRS would even call it a battle, it never was a battle, and it never will be a battle, it's over, those comments weren't even necessary, KRS coulda just said he liked Eminem's album and leave it at that, he was supposed to just comment on Eminem.... :willvspaparazzi: Maybe KRS was mad that Will didn't call him to be featured on "Big Willie Style", lol.... It's kinda funny too that KRS would diss Nelly for selling out from hip-hop by doing a song with NSync but he needs to look in the mirror 'cause he had multi-platinum Puffy on one of his albums that still didn't go platinum, he'd "sell out" if he had the opportunity but he can't 'cause no major label wants him, if NSync called KRS to do a track with them he'd jump to do it, Nelly gets top producers on his albums and people go out and buy it so credit should be given 'cause a lot who try to do that fail to get any attention even the so called ones that say they "keep it real", who wouldn't wanna perform at the Super Bowl with millions watching? I read an article saying that KRS was calling Dr. Dre to get him to produce a Nelly diss track for him, why'd he need to do that if he was "keepin' it real", I thought he was the one who says he "relies on talent, not marketing and promotion" couldn't he just produce the track himself which would sound better than getting watered down production that don't fit his style? Getting Dre to produce a track is a marketing scheme and also contradictory 'cause he says that all the rappers who sell millions ain't hip-hop but wasn't Dre selling millions? I guess KRS ain't hip-hop then if he works with somebody who ain't hip-hop if he says Nelly ain't hip-hop for doing the same, please??!!!, he should just pump his brakes.... KRS wishes he was topping the charts instead of Nelly.... I ain't no Nelly fan but he ain't no sell out, he started a foundation when his sister was dying of cancer, he has heart, I might as well just buy one of his albums 'cause he don't act like somebody he isn't, if KRS would just shut up and make great music again maybe more'd like him since his contradictions are gonna alienate his remaining fans, if there are any left, I might just download his next album.... :wiggle:

Speaking of KRS I remember lookin' a couple weeks ago through the internet to see if I could find an article of him giving props to Will and I only found this, he makes comments about what Eminem said about Will on "Real Slim Shady" and says that Will hasn't really done that much for hip-hop even though he is a pioneer so he deserves to get dissed by Eminem 'cause most white kids say "f*** Will Smith", there's probably even more white kids in reality though that don't even know KRS so he should shut the hell up, I guess Will didn't pay KRS enough when he sampled him, lol, I might not feel like posting anything here on KRS until he gives a shout-out to Will, that was a dissapointment to my heart reading that : http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/disp...ic_feature.html "The Temple believes that in your rap music presentation you can say or be whoever you want. But in your Hiphop cultural presentation, you should be offering balance. Take Eminem. As far as emceeing goes, he has a pretty good album. As far as cultural meaning goes, it's a matter of debate. I believe Eminem speaks everything that all the white kids that listen to Hiphop have always wanted to say. They've always wanted to say, 'F*** Will Smith!' "At the same time, I think it's wrong in Hiphop culture for any new MC to come up and dis one of the elders. It's also racially kind of weird. I use the word weird, because I don't know what it is when a white MC disses a black MC that has contributed as much as Will Smith has. On the other hand, he's speaking on behalf of the people. And I must admit that Will Smith probably hasn't done enough for his image to be embraced by the core audience of Hiphop culture today. Eminem speaks to that. Overall, I for one -- one who critiques MCs and battles those I think are corny -- give him my blessing."

Well the reason why I don't like Nelly that much 'cause I ain't really a big fan of much dirty south rap in general, I do like some of his club songs though, he definately got some bangers and he does put on a good show with a lot of energy, he performed at the Super Bowl like he said in that song, how many cats in hip-hop could say that? Nelly can't be that bad of a performer, I don't think anybody booed him there at that Super Bowl, lol, hate him or love him he represents hip-hop to a large audience and that should always be a good thing... I don't know why KRS would be so jealous, I thought he likes seeing other brothas in the rap game have success... It's ignorant for KRS to say that all of today's rappers who sell millions of albums like Nelly don't what hip-hop is, Nelly acknowledges a lot of the ol' school mcs like JJFP, LL, and even KRS after the beef, he still says that he looks up to KRS, his name Nelly was originally Nelly Nel, inspired by his favorite mc Melle Mel... KRS did give props to Dr. Dre and Eminem in the late 90s around the time they dissed Will so who knows maybe KRS don't even like Will that much either maybe I should stop giving him so much refrences on this board, lol.... Anyway respect points go up for Nelly too that he did the show representin' for LL at the Hip-Hop Honors last year.... Scarface might be the only rapper from the south that I like, most of my favorite rappers are from the east coast for some reason, I'm more of an east coast hip-hop head, although I like Pac more than Biggie for some reason, lol, which is another discussion....

I don't much of Nelly's lyrics either but if I'm at a club with a fly honey and they play Nelly it's not like I'm gonna stop dancin' to it... You look at the "#1" song, he don't say a line about KRS: Uh uh uh I just gotta bring it to they attention dirty, that's all.. [Nelly] You better watch who you talkin bout; runnin your mouth, like you know me You gon' **** around and show why the "Show Me" get called the "Show Me" Why one-on-one you can't hold me if your last name was hands Only way you wear me out is stitch my name on your pants No resident of France; but you swear I'm from Paris Hundred-six karats - total? Naw that's per wrist Trying to compurr this - my chain to yo' chain I'm like Sprint or Motorola - no service, out of your range You out of your brains, thinkin I'ma shout out your name You gotta come up with better ways than that to catch your fame All that pressure you applyin it's time to ease off Before I hit you from the blindside takin your sleeves off As much as we's floss, still hard to please boss Don't be lyin bitchin and cryin - suck it up as a loss Cause your, acts is wack, your whole label is wack And matter fact, eh eh-eh eh a-hold that [Chorus: Nelly] I.. am.. number one - no matter if you like it Here take it sit down and write it I.. am.. number one Hey hey hey hey hey hey - now let me ask you man What does it take to be number one? Two is not a winner and three nobody remembers (hey) What does it take to be number one? Hey hey hey hey.. [unknown girl] Do you like it when I shake it for ya, daddy? Move it all around? Let you get a peep before it touches the ground? [Nelly] Hell yeah ma I love a girl that's willin to learn Willin to get in the driver's seat and willin to turn And not concerned about that he say, she say, did he say what I think he said? Squash that, he probably got that off eBay Or some, Internet access some, website chat line Mad cause I got mine, don't wind up on the flat line Ohh if my uncle could see me know If he could see how many rappers wanna be me now Straight emulatin my style right to the "down down" Can't leave out the store now better wait 'til they calm down I got hella shorties, comin askin, "Yo where the party?" Ohh lordy - will I continue to act naughty? Mixing Cris' and Bacardi, got me thinkin fo' sho' I'm not a man of many words but there's one thing I know - pimp [Chorus] I.. am.. number one - no matter if you like it Here take it sit down and write it Hey I.. am.. number one Hey hey hey hey hey hey - now tell me now dirty What does it take to be number one? Two is not a winner and three nobody remembers Tell me - what does it take to be number one? Hey hey hey hey.. [Nelly] Check it, uhh, check, yo Aiyyo I'm tired of people judgin what's real Hip-Hop Half the time you be them niggaz who ****in album flop YOU KNOW! Boat done sank and it ain't left the dock C'MON! Mad cause I'm hot; HE JUST - mad cause he not You ain't gotta gimme my props, just gimme the yachts Gimme my rocks, and keep my fans comin in flocks 'Til you top the Superbowl, keep your mouth on lock Shhhhh.. {*crickets*} I'm awake, ha ha ha! I'm cocky on the mic but I'm humble in real life Taking nothin for granted blessin e'rything on my life Trying to see a new light at the top of the roof Baby name not Sigel but I speak +The Truth+ I heat the booth - Nelly actin so uncouth Top down shirt off in the coupe, spreadin the loot With my family and friends, and my closest of kin And I'll do it again if it means I'ma win [Chorus] Dirty I.. am.. number one - no matter if you like it Here take it sit down and write it Hey I.. am.. number one Hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey Dirty what does it take to be number one? Two is not a winner and three nobody remembers EY! - what does it take to be number one? Hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey Heyyyy I.. am.. number one I.. am.. number one What does it take to be number one? Two is not a winner and three nobody remembers What does it take to be number one? Hey hey hey hey hey hey I.. am.. number one Uhh uhh uh, uh uh uhh-uh uh Listen I I, I I I-I number one.. Yeah, yeah, yeah I I, I I, number one.. The two is not a winner and three nobody remembers .. number one Cause two is not a winner and three nobody remembers" Nelly was talking about people in general that talk about who's real hip-hop and who ain't real hip-hop, but I dunno maybe KRS felt guilty conscious since he always talks about what's real and what's not, there's all kinds of hip-hop, this goes back to the thread I was making, some might say KRS ain't real hip-hop, some might say Nelly ain't real hip-hop, some might say JJFP ain't real hip-hop, I dunno why KRS would still diss Nelly in interviews and stuff 'cause his close friends in the rap game like Chuck D and Fat Joe collabed with Nelly recently, KRS is too great of an mc to just go around dissin' people like 50 Cent does to get attention, he needs to just stick to making great music and stop acting like a hip-hop purist....

I think Nelly sucks too but as far as KRS-ONE, he said in an interview he looked up to KRS-ONE and didn't wanna reply back to when KRS made a diss track to him but he just did it for his rep, he said that his song "#1" wasn't a diss to KRS but KRS said that he thought it was, it was just a misunderstanding, KRS is the one still holding a grudge towards Nelly 'cause he's still dissin' him but Nelly ain't dissin' KRS anymore, I think KRS is looking like an immature one no matter how great his music is, KRS might be a better lyricist but Nelly might actually be more mature than KRS, sometimes KRS sounds like a jealous old man that hates all the younger rappers just 'cause they make money, Will ain't like that....