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This was supposed to be a duets album so that's why there's collab on every track, that's what a duet album is, lol. I don't think Pac's album was supposed to be, Biggie probably would work with some these rappers on here so it more seems realistic for him unlike Pac with his "Loyal To The Game" 'cause Pac was more against mainstream, like I could see Biggie doing a song with Nelly and 50 'cause Puffy worked with them before on the Bad Boys 2 Soundtrack, LL Cool J, Heavy D, and Busta should've been on there though 'cause Biggie worked with all of them while alive and he probably would collab with them again if he still was, I couldn't picture Pac working with Eminem, D12, or G Unit, 'cause the Outlawz or Digital Underground ain't down wit them....

I wonder why Chris Rock'd diss Will?!!! Now Samuel L. Jackson did a movie with Ice Cube last summer so that must not be recent he said that :bat: I only really like Cuba Gooding Jr. in like a couple movies, there's a reason why he don't get major roles...

Yeah Jeff's been kinda quiet lately, besides doing a couple holiday shows with FP, did he perform at any clubs during the holidays, is he in the lab recording more material, or just chillin'?

Skillz is actually more famous for writing for other rappers than for himself, he's a ghostwriter, he dropped a couple albums but they flopped....

Hey AJ you need to understand that 99% of the people thought that Will was gonna diss Eminem when he said that he had "something for Eminem" on his song "Mr. Nice Guy", Will should've gave people what they wanted, hip-hop heads want Eminem's career to be finished, why back down, we all know that Will has enough talent and power to clean up the rap game, right?!!! He should've threw punchlines at Eminem, this is hip-hop dawg, people wanna be entertained, if Will threw some creative disses at Eminem people'd loved the track much better than they do now, only us Lorettas like "Mr. Nice Guy", most people think it's weak 'cause he didn't diss Eminem like you stated, "Husband, father, dissed by Eminem, did it bother him, yep but he classy, Big Will gets another 20 mil, walks right past 'E" is a weak response in my book even though it's true, and it's not like what Eminem said was that drastic to respond to in the first place, it was just a joke in a comedic song, if Eminem said "f*** Will Smith" in a more dramatic song then yes that's a foul diss, "Real Slim Shady"'s just a parody, I didn't take it serious when I heard it. And who gives a damn if he gets teenyboppers to say Will Smith sucks, they probably don't like Will anyway, Will don't need them, Fresh Prince is capable of doing much better than that and luckily he did better on the rest of the album or else hip-hop heads like me'd think it's time for Will to hang up the mic if that's the best he could do especially after the dissapointing "Born To Reign", I'm a fan but I'm also a realist, I don't think what anybody does everything perfect no matter how much I like them.... I was dissapointed 'cause if you say you're gonna respond to somebody you do better than that, Will'd been better off saying nothing in his interviews at all if he don't deliver what people expect, somebody with the power of Will has to stand up and destroy this studio gangstas, 2Pac would do it if he were alive, looks like nobody's man enough to do it though but I guess that's why people liked Pac so much, he wasn't afraid to go after people dissin' him no matter what the circumstances are, I was hoping that Will was gonna stand up to the G-Unit gimmicks and finish them off..... I woulda liked to see Will reply to Eminem if it was done better than what was done on "Mr. Nice Guy", the song didn't make any impact though like it would've if Will actually took shots at Em.... :thumbdown:

Here's the lyrics to the "2003 Wrap-Up" I found on OHHLA.com, they'll probably be putting up the lyrics to the 2005 one soon: We got a burner Doc! Yeah, uh, yeah, y'all know what it is, uh Its Skillz We back uh I mean y'all asked for it, so I had to do it again knowhatimsayin? Yeah, '03, let's go Yo, its the S-K-I to them Double-L-Z y'all Recappin the 2 Double-0 3 y'all R. Kelly saved face He wrote so many hits that we forgot about his sex case Everybody got a hit from the king But I ain't get the mask and the whole Pied Piper thing Till I found out who that really is Ain't that the dude that left town with all the little kids? Label of the year would have to be Shady I watched Lil Jon turn into J.D And speakin of attraction Don't you get sick when you realize he hit Janet Jackson? Da Band got a easy break And had the whole world talkin bout not walkin for cheese cake And here's the funny part The blackout hit and you had to walk just to sit in the dark Rappers kept fake pimpin' And don't lie you know you like watchin Jessica Simpson And ey'body kept eyes part flashin Styles came home, Yayo went back in The industry was silent The dummy move of the year that would be Kobe Bryant Y'all think she lyin? Thats the second time Kobe been on T.V. cryin I'm like damn Kobe In high school you was the man Kobe What the hell happened to you? Sean Paul stayed busy They careers looked iffy So Madonna decided to kiss Britney That sent a shock thru the city I wasn't shocked what would've shocked me if she kissed Missy and the south made a come back Note to BET I don't wanna see Bone Crusher's butt crack Ja Rule got madder, we watched the Farrakahn special Irv watch the Viagra What's next? we movin on Ey'body forgot about the girl that made the uh-oh song 50 kept stuntin Club songs of the year Joe Budden or Pharrell with Frontin Roc The Mic was the tour But didn't you feel Babs and Lil Kim performin at the BET awards? If you agree wit this one then wave your hands Whos tired of the throwbacks and the chickenhead dance? Okay same here Nelly and Chingy got robbed in the same year Shocked? I'ma say it quite clurr When your boys in Philly man Have his bodyguard right thurr Labels wasn't doin well They put gold tickets in albums to boost the sales And thats saddenin Cuz if you got a gold ticket you prolly copped the CD from Bin Laden As far as couples go they was on the hush strictly Beyonce and Jay-Z, Vivica and 50 I told you Ben and Jen was shifty Everybody make some noise if you went to see Gigli! .... Alright, okay As far as American Idol, the winner was Clay Pregnancy on TV was Toni Braxton Ashanti came back lookin like Janet Jackson Beyonce hit the top If you a female singer and I ain't call your name? you flopped Jay-Z was done Thank God we got the ODB show on VH1 Cam'Ron made 'em think I can't believe that dudes was walkin around my hood in pink Thank God I'm a southerner Cuz you know its over once you got the Terminator for your governor Oukast was wil'yin Video of the year goes to Dre Ice Cold 3000 This year was kinda lame It's funny, the league replaced Kobe with Lebron James The Roy Jones fight was foul And BET don't love nobody like B2K and Bow Wow He barely went gold fa sho Jermaine prolly in Atlanta like I told you so Kanye sipped the siz-yurp Zino found a tape wit Eminem usin the N wiz-ord Em I doubt that you a racist kid Thank God ya **** hit the fan the same week that Mike's did And Mike be confused again We don't know if he tuckin 'em in or stuffin 'em in Question is will they nail him? To me he don't look like LaToya, he look like Liz Taylor Diddy ran the marathon well Hottest show on TV hands down Dave Chappelle These labels is sinkin So when you say Rawkus, I say what the hell I was thinkin? Hottest song In Da Club by 50 And since she got the thighs out I'm lookin at Missy Jay tried to leave like Mike RIP to Soulja Slim, Rerun, and Barry White This year y'all did it fa sho This Skillz welcomin y'all to the Double-0 4

I wished him Happy Holidays last week on Christmas, I'll make another post saying Happy New Year's, I'm gonna make more posts over there, I'll admit I've been slacking lately...

Will didn't have to respond, he has nothing to prove to Em 'cause he got fans of all ages and is a household name, Em can't say that when most of his fans are teenagers but he is a household name so he musta done something right, for Will to say something about Em must show that he has respect for Eminem and if Eminem makes fun of Will so much it's 'cause Will's an icon, Em likes to poke fun at famous people, he'll even diss himself too, he's just a crazy guy that shouldn't be taken seriously, lol.... Now I doubt that Will'd ever respond to Bow Wow 'cause he don't have a platinum plaque or rap fans don't respect him, unless of course Bow Wow grew up and actually gets some respect., then we might hear something from Will gradually, lol, Eminem is Rakim compared to Bow Wow... The hype between Will and Em was dead already though, Will actually already did respond in interviews 5 years ago when "Real Slim Shady" came out, Will laughed it off and said that he had no intentions in responding and figured that Eminem would be irrelevant in the rap game soon, well he's right basically 'cause after "Marshall Mathers LP" Em lost his rap fanbase, he only has pop fans now, I still think "Born To Reign" track was dedicated to Eminem too, Will mocked Em's flow on there and criticised gangsta rappers in that song, I like that song much better than "Mr. Nice Guy", he should've said that was for Eminem, but maybe he wasn't that confident about the "Born To Reign" album either to say something like that, lol... Both Em and Will have had their ups and downs to be real but at this moment Will has the edge, in 2002 maybe Eminem would've had a slight advantage towards Will since Will was too much into his movies to put effort into aggressive rhyming when he was doing songs with Tra-Knox on "Born To Reign" but then again "The Eminem Show" wasn't no masterpiece either and Em had a hard time with Ja Rule and Canibus even when they weren't on top of their games at that time either so he'd barely beat Will then, from 1997-2000 Will was on top of his game and so was Em, and from 1986-1993 Will was dominating the rap game with Jazzy while Eminem was a Loretta on the sidelines watching, lol, so the overall edge goes to Will, if people'd actually compare their catalogs there's no comparison, Will has 4 or 5 classic albums out of 9 with one weak one while Em only has 1 or 2 out of 5 (counting "Infinite") with at least 1 weak one, only Stans would consider Em better than Will, most rap fans would call Will a legend before they'd Eminem, it'd be tight battle though if Em got hungry again and Will remains hungry like he is on "Lost and Found" but I doubt that'd happen now....

Well Will was a top battle rapper in Philly when he came in the rap game, he has the skills to handle Eminem or any mc in the game if he needs too, I don't think any mc would ever dedicate a whole song dissin' Will, they might just say one or two lines or talk crap about him in an interview but they wouldn't ever wanna step on stage with him in a battle 'cause they know they'd lose, if Eminem brought the limited skills he showed on "Encore" or his limited skills in that battle with Ja Rule.... Will'd destoyed him easily 'cause "Lost and Found" is arguably Will's most lyrical album, Will's getting better with age while Em's slowing down, Em should be thankful that Will's a nice guy though 'cause Will could've easily finished him off, it would've been a tight battle if Will responded in 2000 though 'cause Em was on top of his game then with his 1st 2 albums while Will was on top with his last 2 albums as well, that could've gone down as one of the greatest battles of all-time, but the kids would probably choose Eminem anyway even if he got his ass kicked 'cause he's gangsta, I think Ja Rule was right there with him in that battle, Canibus held his own too, some don't know skills if it hit them, "Mr. Nice Guy"'s probably one of the weakest on "Lost and Found" but it's harder than any song Em's done lately, lol.... Em was worth responding to 5 years ago 'cause he actually had a lot of skills then, I thought he was annoying but he definately was one of the top lyrical cats, I could admit that even though I was never a fan(Stan, lol) of his, he ain't worth responding to now though, Will gave him too much credit, he don't have mad skills now, even his fans think he fell off but they still hang on his balls anyway 'cause he's the top white rapper, it'll take a white gangsta rapper to finish him off in the public eye(like if Vanilla Ice's diss song to Em got on the radio, lol) but he's already irrelevant in most hip-hop circles. Eminem would have trouble battlin' Bow Wow and Britney Spears let alone Will, lol....

I remember all the Eminem Stans going on the Lorettaboard sayin' that Eminem was gonna kick Will's ass :rofl: I got sucked into the hype at that time, I really wanted to see Will rip the crap out of Eminem on "Mr. Nice Guy" after that even though Will said he wasn't gonna say much about Eminem, nobody paid attention to that though, I got into the hype too, that's why I was dissapointed it was just a one-liner after all that hype, I didn't care if he turned into Mike Lowrey or Tupac Shakur on that track, in fact I was hoping Michael Jackson would make a surprise appearance on it too after Eminem made fun of him in "Losin' It", a lot more would've bought the album if that happened 'cause the people would be getting what they want, I read quite a few people on forums saying that "Mr. Nice Guy" was a weak diss, a lot probably just downloaded the track and didn't buy the album anyway, so that hype was worthless, it'd been better if he had the radio play "Tell Me Why" on the radio before the album dropped but nearly a year later people didn't hear that track, Will's promotional team sucks, lol.... But Will probably listened to "Encore" and re-did with one line since Em ain't an mc anymore, Em probably can't even make a comeback to one line now, that's why he's retiring.... :willvspaparazzi:

:word: Give us a time, I wanna be here when u do it! :kekeke:

Happy New Years Y'all and Happy Anniversary to Will and Jada btw, is Jazzy Jeff gonna be performing at a club in Philly?

Will don't need hype from controversey to sell "Lost and Found", it's arguably the deepest album he's ever done, he just needed to release the right songs and it would've sold much more, I mean if he had a lot of these deep songs come out as singles, this album would've sold more than 50 Cent, it'd been something refreshing for the airwaves, there's a lot of people that like Will but weren't aware that the album came out 'cause it wasn't promoted well, personally I think performing "Tell Me Why" at Live 8 would've had more impact than Will saying in his interviews that he had "something for Em".... He sold as many albums as Biggie with "Big Willie Style" in '97/98 even when there was all the controversey over Biggie's death, Will's sold over 30 million albums in his career without controversey so why does he need it now? "Why should I try to sound like y'all sound, that's what's wrong with the rap game right now", "Encore" outselling "Lost and Found" doesn't mean Eminem's a better mc than Will either 'cause most of the people who bought "Lost and Found" enjoy it and most who bought "Encore" thinks it sucks, Will's the realest mc 'cause the people who bought his albums were moved by him and that's what a real mc does, even with only a gold plaque to show for "Lost and Found" he could hold his head high that he was able to touch people, record sales ain't a measuring stick for who's the realest, Em probably feels embarassed he put out such a weak album with no subject matter no matter if he got a plaque saying he sold 5 million,lol, he sold out from his style on his earlier albums and that don't make him much real now but if he has a heart he'll change his ways, personally if he don't I don't care, if he does I don't care either 'cause I ain't a fan of Eminem and I never was 'cause I don't think he's real but hey some people don't think Will's real either I guess, at least the ignorant youth like Bow Wow, lol, maybe Will should make a song about him next, lol. "Born To Reign" was weak for Will's standards too but he still had a lot of heart in it unlike "Encore". Shady should just retire so we don't have to hear anything from him anymore, lol, Will should never retire though... I actually don't want Will to say nothin' about Em and Em shouldn't say nothin' about Will, Will should just "Wave 'Em Off", I love that song so much better than "Mr. Nice Guy" now. I don't wanna have to compare Will and Em so much anymore, I just prefer Will over Em, end of story, when 2006 starts I don't feel like getting into details about it like this, I'm getting it out now.... Who knows though maybe that's the only reason why Jimmy Iovine allowed Will to release the album, he probably told Will to mention Eminem in his interviews or else he'll dropped, lol, but with it going gold even when the hype quickly died proved that Will don't need the hype 'cause he got talent and enough out there respect that even if it wasn't promoted that well, Will outsold some that had airplay on BET more often than him, even if Eminem and Will shake hands on stage one day like Nas and Jay-Z did there'll always be some that'll prefer one over the other, like me no matter what I'll always think that Will and Nas are better than Jay-Z and Eminem. It's like the Bulls vs. the Knicks, Will's the one with the Bulls' like dynasty but Eminem's the bitter rival like the Knicks, lol, when the cameras go off them they're cool wit each other probably.... I ain't gonna front, I wanted to see Will turn into 2Pac on one track and just "Hit Em Up", lol, if he cursed they could edit it like "Tell Me Why", for all the crap Em's done to commercial rap, I was a lil' dissapointed when I found out Will only did one line towards him, I was hoping it was gonna be punchline after punchline after punchline like "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" or "Uhhh", except with Eminem references, it was too short in my opinion, he's capable of doing more than that if he wanted to, some people thought that it was weak 'cause they wanted to hear a diss song, a lot don't like Eminem and wanted to see him destroyed, lol. Will should've said that "Lost and Found" was for Em, that track's much more powerful if people checked for that one instead, he could've said "Lost is 50 Cent, Dr. Dre, and Eminem", I forgive Will though 'cause he gave us a classic but if this was another "Born To Reign" I'd be pissed. Em deserves to get ripped in my opinion, especially if he's keeps on putting out crap, maybe if he disses LL one day, LL'll come harder. he should be thanking Will that he sparred his dying career, Shady wishes that he could have somebody over 18 years old respect him again, lol....

I think Will said something in one of his interviews that him and Eminem are 2 different artists that have different fans and it's true if you think about it, most Will fans don't like Eminem and Eminem fans don't like Will, different artists, different tastes, it's more the fans and media making this an issue, Will and Em probably don't have no beef with each other though....

:word: This was a dead issue that didn't even had to be brought up by Will in that song and nobody'd talk about it anyway, those people that like Eminem don't like Will anyway and that's not 'cause of "Real Slim Shady" it's just that Will ain't their style, lol, and I agree Will should go after the haters but he does already, remember songs like "Don't Say Nothin'" and "I'm Comin'", he'd address haters in there, he wouldn't name them though, he don't have to either, he got too much class to do that, he could sell a lot of albums without naming anybody, I mean instead of sayin': "Husband, father, dissed by Eminem But did it bother him? Yep But he classy, Big Will wit another 20 mil walk right past E I'm a nice guy why y'all harassing me?" He could've easily said this and it would've made the same point, later on in the song he should've just cut out those lines about Wendy Williams and Larry Elder, he should just "Wave 'Em Off": "Husband, father, dissed by all of them But did it bother him? Yep But he classy, Big Will wit another 20 mil walk right past everybody I'm a nice guy why y'all harassing me?" Now on "Real Slim Shady", Em dissed like 100 people in that song, including a line about himself saying somebody about he'll have to check himself into a mental clinic, even mocking himself in the video, it wasn't a song to be taken seriously as a diss, lol

Will didn't have to mention in his interviews that he had something for Eminem if he wasn't gonna make a song dissin' him, that's what people expect when you say you have something for somebody, well Jay-Z did basically the same thing too when he said he wanted to start a rap war and then doesn't diss anybody, lol.... I don't think Will should've said anything in his interviews, the media took his comments out of context, he said that he did respect Eminem as a talented artist so what's the point of saying that he has something for Eminem?!! He should've just made the "Mr. Nice Guy" song as a warning to the haters and not named anybody, I think it's a nice aggressive track but I don't like thinking about Eminem when I listen to a Will Smith song, they don't deserve free publicity on a legendary mc's album ( also larry elder and wendy williams)....

Deep down Wendy probably wishes that her husband was as successful as Will.... :kekeke:

Since it's the end of the year, I figure we'd look back on Will addressing Eminem on "Mr. Nice Guy"... In a lot of interviews Will said he had something for Eminem, a lot of people were expecting Will to dedicate the whole song to him and a lot questioned why'd he respond 5 years later to just one line Eminem said about him in "Real Slim Shady", and then Will only said one line in "Mr. Nice Guy" of course which I feel wasn't necessary 'cause we all know that Will basically moved on to bigger and better things, Eminem makes fun of everybody anyway so not many take him serious anyway.... Looking back, I actually think that it wasn't necessary for Will to say anything about Em, especially since Em's been irrelevant by most hip-hop fans over the last 5 years, he basically only has a pop fanbase now, Will should've used that time in interviews to talk more in depth about deeper songs on the album than "Mr. Nice Guy" 'cause "Mr. Nice Guy" ain't even one of the top songs on such a deep album, I rarely even listen to that song now, so I vote no....

Well Wendy Williams also said that the only reason why Jada is an A-List actress is 'cause she's the wife of Will Smith

The party never started and we might not even get "Tell Me Why"!!! :stars: :thumbdown:

http://www.spinemagazine.com/music/decembe...herapup2005.mp3

Yeah that's Eminem's style to diss everyone, he disses himself too, lol, but anyways I think "Loretta" is a great track....

:word: Is there a way we could email Interscope and Overbrook and tell them we want "Tell Me Why"? :pony:

I ain't overreacting, Eminem told Will himself that he took some of his storytellin' from what Will and Jeff have done...

Maybe Eminem should be on the remix.... just playin' :kekeke: "Loretta" is much better than "Stan" seriously, Eminem bit off storytellin' from Will, the originators of rap don't get the credit they deserve, kids probably think Eminem won the 1st rap grammy, lol...