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Yeah a lot of his beats sound the same like most commercial rappers, he needs to hire new producers but he got some flow, I wouldn't call him one of the best, but he's aight.... btw, I got this Vibe issue from a couple years ago with Luda being the cover story and he mentioned: "Ludacris believes that his art shouldn't be censored, and if ho sounds best in the rhyme, ho it will be. "Rap is all about emotion, and certain cuss words have a certain emotional effect,", he says. "Some words fit in the mix better than others. When I'm laying down a track, I see myself as another instrument, and I'm trying to come up with words that will lock into the beat."

Well if it's gonna be Will's album, he better be on it!, when you reply back AJ make sure you tell them that!!!.... :willvspaparazzi: :lolsign:

Yeah I remember a few years ago that the pop albums of the year used to sell 10 million copies, the music industry's really going down, remember that Beanie Siegal's album outsold Will's in the 1st week and he finished at #189, it proves that Will won the marathon and is still the king of Philly hip-hop, even with all the free publicity of being in jail couldn't help Beanie, BET actually focused on his trial more than Will's album I remember, lol

Well with Will saying in that he got at least a few more laps left in him for music now and Jeff's always talking about how they wanna do another album with Will, it's obvious that we're gonna get a JJFP album sooner or later, I have a feeling it's gonna happen next year.... :yeah:

Basically everyone ahead of him had a better promotion, a lot of people don't buy albums off of critical acclaim, Kanye had high ratings but let's be real if "Gold Digger" didn't blow up Kanye would've sold much less after his album came out, singles keep the hype for long term sales. "Switch" wasn't really that big when "Lost and Found" dropped either, but he was out there promoting it and everyone wanted to know what was what he had for Eminem when the album came out but the hype died quickly since black radio, TRL, and 106 & Park didn't play "Switch", only pop radio and I Tunes did, and especially once Will stopped performing, basically it was just word of mouth that sold "Lost and Found". Little Brother was probably one of the top critical acclaim artists this year but they didn' t have any hits, hit singles sell records not critical acclaim, that's why 50 Cent sold so much, hardly anybody likes the album, they just like the singles, even a lot below Will had better promotion, they all had more than one hit single, it took Common 3 singles to barely outsell Will, Will only had "Switch", "Lost and Found" was probably one of the least promoted albums this year, if it had 50 Cent promotion getting 5 singles played at once on both pop and black radio he'd been #1 easily and 50 Cent wouldn't sell anything if he had Will's promotion, no hit singles wouldn't sell anything for 50, once he stops having hits his career'll be over 'cause his albums don't have critical acclaim....For "Lost and Found" to go gold was a miracle, Rev. Run wish he could say that but even with his reality show on MTV all the time he couldn't put up those numbers, btw you notice all the rap albums on that list, that shows you that hip-hop is now hip-pop, lol....

Hopefully this turns into a Black Starr type project and even better with Jazzy on the wheels it could turn into something like a Run-Dmc project!!!! :mygod:

Yeah T-Bone got a great flow, he was featured on a couple of tracks on KRS-ONE's "Spirtual Minded" that was released a few years ago...

There needs to be a "Lost and Found" remix with Kel Spencer on it, btw are these new artists on these songs or are they other famous artists? Obviously if FP's gonna be involved in the compilation he'll probably on some tracks no doubt, hopefully Jazzy produces some of the tracks too....

My shadow dream is to be a famous mc like FP and have girls that don't speak english screaming my name :lolsign:

The JJFP greatest hits obviously did better than the Will Smith greatest hits 'cause it was released around the "Big Willie Style" hype while the Will Smith greatest hits was released around the "Born To Reign" funeral, lol... Now as far as this JJFP album, if gangsta rap keeps dominating, I don't see it doing that much better than "Lost and Found" 'cause I think a lot of them original fans moved on, that's like saying Public Enemy would go double platinum again automatically if they went back to Def Jam, you need to constantly bring in new fans constantly.....

This is dope news, I'm gonna look forward to it, doing stuff like this'll definately help FP's street cred in hip-hop, it's about time he works on projects like this! :yeah: btw, he must be reading all our recent posts about how we want him to be more involved with music, lol

If "Party Starter" got released in the middle of July at the latest when "Switch" was at its peak I think it would've been huge, I think it'd probably would've been Will's biggest hit since "Summertime", they'd be playing that at every club, barbeque, rides, etc, "Switch" was hot but I thought it was just the start of even bigger things but people lost interest in "Lost and Found" already so we'll never know how huge it could've been.... Now I think "The Rain" could've had the success of "Just The Two Of Us", that was a universal theme, it'd really boosted "Willenium" sales unlike "Freakin' It", everyone'd feel it no matter where they're from, too bad we can't go back in time though.... Hopefully one day Will could get on some label that releaases singles at a faster pace so that way even if he don't have a lot of time to promote the album, at least the singles'll be out there already, the 3rd single could've been already released by the time he started shooting "Pursuit..." if Interscope'd give Will as much attention as 50 Cent...

Well when it comes to production Will could have the greatest DJ/producer Jazzy Jeff handle that, having more beats like "So Fresh" and "Twinkle Twinkle" would really boost popularity, but I think Will should collab on other rappers' albums, that'd really keep his name out there, go on Snoop's album, Kanye's album, LL's album, Nas' album, 50's album, Luda's album, Public Enemy's album, etc, maybe having a song or 2 on his movie soundtracks wouldn't hurt either, lol....

I'm making a new year's resolution to be more open minded to today's rappers..... :kekeke:

I think 50's more hype than anything though, he needed every bit of it, seriously if Will had that type of hype for "Lost and Found" it would've sold 10 million and blew everyone away by far, if 50 had crap promotion like Will I bet he wouldn't even have been in the top 200, a lot of people bought "Lost and Found" off of word of mouth like a great album would be but 50 wouldn't have that word of mouth, it was just that he was on TV so much people felt obligated to buy it but next year they probably won't even listen to it anymore....

Why didn't "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" and "Homebase" fans buy "Code Red" then? A lot of them went to gangsta rap around that time, didn't they?.... A lot of people bought "Big Willie Style" and "Willenium" off of hype from Will's movies, but even a lot of them became Eminem and Dr. Dre fans and abandoned Will unfortunately, even through all that we could say that his movie career's killing him now, but it seemed to really help him then, it's the direction of the rap game that has hurt Will the most, if there were more positive rappers out there, "Lost and Found" would've done a lil' better, doing movies once in a while wouldn't be bad to continue to keep his career alive but when it's time for music, Will needs to use that time for music, not film between promotion. I don't know if Columbia would've gave Will a record deal if it wasn't for his success in movies, maybe if Jazzy was a big movie star they wouldn't shelve his album either, lol, movies opened the door for Will to come back, Will's always gonna have an audience 'cause of movies since it made him a household name. Record labels'd sign him over Rakim anyday 'cause of his movie career, without it we probably wouldn't even thinkin' about another JJFP album coming out on the scene, there'd probably be only independent albums at this point like my man KRS if Will never made it big in movies, KRS used to go platinum 15 years ago but major record labels won't sign an artist for what they did 15 years ago unfortunately, it's a buisiness and they wanna see recent results, if that were the case Vanilla Ice'd be making a comeback album for millions again, lol... Plus knowing that "Lost and Found" actually did better than "Born To Reign" and "Code Red" gives hope that we might be getting a JJFP album as the 10th album for Will, it'd be only fitting, I don't know if Interscope would allow them to call it a "Jazzy Jeff+Fresh Prince" album especially since Jazzy hasn't been popular lately, it might be called "Will Smith Featuring Jeff Townes" album or they put produced by Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince on the back of the album cover like "Willenium", they could call it whatever they want, it's all good for me as long as it's good music, lol....

Well if record labels gave the great albums more promotion then those at the top wouldn't do so well, this is the highest selling albums of the year unfortunately though, it's a sad state of the music industry when the top 2 artists are 50 Cent and Eminem, I wouldn't even consider them music artists... :paperbag:

Yeah this is pretty good to see Will on this list, this is music in general, it's not just a rap chart, it musta been a slow year in music if only 100 albums in the industry went at least gold, if it was only a rap chart I think I'd say there was about maybe 25 albums ahead of Will's but quite a bit of them came out late last year I believe like Nas', Eminem's, 2Pac's, Luda's, and Jay-Z/Linkin Park plus I think even other albums came out late last year too, but most of his rap peers his age probably wouldn't even make the top 200 rap album chart for the year so that's impressive to see that Will's still relevant in the industry, btw I wonder where "The Soul Mixtape" came in? lol....

Realistically there ain't gonna be a lot of people who want a JJFP album, the rap game has changed so much since "Code Red", basically it was starting to change around then too, basically only hardcore rappers have high record sales, and now even a lot of the older rappers are getting pushed out of the scene as well, I can't really see a lot of people buying a new JJFP album but I think with a strong effort though they could prove people wrong, if Will takes the right amount of time off from filming and if Jeff is willing to get back in the spotlight again I believe they could do something that'd get more people into them, "Willenium" would've sold a lot more if "Potnas" and "The Rain" came out, those are universal songs that everyone'd like....

I thought Will outsold Bow Wow, wtf?! :stars: Yeah there's a lot of garbage on this list, mostly what's on the radio all the time, probably some of the good stuff that never gets airplay didn't even make it on this list...

So wouldn't hip-hop heads lose respect in Will for giving 50 Cent props in an interview? Snoop's just as commercial as 50 these days but "Pump Ya Brakes" turned out well, 50 does have some skills especially on his earlier mixtapes, working with an mc like Will'd probably bring out some energy we haven't seen from him in a while... Wouldn't they call Will a sell-out for doing a song with Lil' Kim? I don't believe in that, Will should be able to collaborate with anybody whether ol' school or new school, it might take with working with newer artists to get the younger fanbase who buys the majority of today's albums to buy the JJFP album, a lot of older fans don't like hip-hop anymore either, they listen to neo soul now.... If Will just does things with ol' school rappers, it won't sell, so what do you want Will to do? Do you wanna see him just work with ol' school artists and producers and only sell a lil' bit or should he work with the top artists of today and sell more? :hmm:... Maybe that's why some hip-hop heads might diss LL for working with Pharrell and Timbaland instead of ol' school producers but I think they got talent too....

Here's the list, not bad at all considering how bad the promotion was and there was 1000s of albums that probably came out this year in music: http://www.billboard.biz/bb/biz/yearendcha...005/tlptitl.jsp

The thing is Jeff likes to do things more on a low than Will does, him not wanting the fame anymore could be the reason why it's been so long we've been waiting so long for a JJFP album, even on "Willenium" too, it might've been Jeff's idea to have his name on the back of the album instead of on the cover, lol, that's pretty close to a JJFP album to me, even if we get something like that, I'll take that, even if I have to read the credits to find out that Jeff worked on all of it, lol... And of course we all know that Will's been doing too many films lately to properly promote his music, he always likes to do things for large audiences so I don't know if he'd be willing to do something just for a limited fanbase although he did say that he doesn't worry about record sales anymore but I don't know if I could believe that all the way 'cause he talks about how he wants to clean up the rap game, ultimately no matter if it's released an independent fanbase or commercial audience I'll be happy for it to drop and that's all I'd wanna see, another JJFP album, we have to see what happens.....

Well the thing is though that like Will said in "Here He Comes": "Fresh Prince was hot, the movies killed him", he just doesn't seem to put enough focus into the music anymore like he used to, he claims that he loves hip-hop more but he needs to show it, he needs to go out and do freestyles, do more performances, I think he should do collabs with some of today's popular rappers too just to show people that he could hang on a track with anybody that they think is hot now, that's why LL's still popular today, LL takes time to collab on other people's albums and they collab with him too, he shouldn't just only do tracks with the ol' school rappers 'cause I don't think many people like ol' school rap that much anymore, most people don't know who Slick Rick is sadly, except for those dedicated rap heads, like if he did a song on Kanye West's album his popularity would increase, he could collab on new school mcs' albums and put ol' school mcs on the JJFP album, that'd please everybody, the kids would be impressed with hearing Will spit on a 50 Cent and Ludacris album and then they'll be inteterested enough buy the JJFP album when it drops and be introduced to ol' school mcs like KRS-ONE and Chuck D....

I think that the problem with Will is that he don't properly put enough time into music after "Code Red", ever since he's been getting more involved into family life and doing so many films, he needs to have people help him with writing lyrics 'cause he don't have that much free time anymore, but with some rappers they just can't write songs even with all the freetime on their hands, I think Will needs to properly put more time into his music again.....