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Yeah this is pretty good to see Will on this list, this is music in general, it's not just a rap chart, it musta been a slow year in music if only 100 albums in the industry went at least gold, if it was only a rap chart I think I'd say there was about maybe 25 albums ahead of Will's but quite a bit of them came out late last year I believe like Nas', Eminem's, 2Pac's, Luda's, and Jay-Z/Linkin Park plus I think even other albums came out late last year too, but most of his rap peers his age probably wouldn't even make the top 200 rap album chart for the year so that's impressive to see that Will's still relevant in the industry, btw I wonder where "The Soul Mixtape" came in? lol....

Realistically there ain't gonna be a lot of people who want a JJFP album, the rap game has changed so much since "Code Red", basically it was starting to change around then too, basically only hardcore rappers have high record sales, and now even a lot of the older rappers are getting pushed out of the scene as well, I can't really see a lot of people buying a new JJFP album but I think with a strong effort though they could prove people wrong, if Will takes the right amount of time off from filming and if Jeff is willing to get back in the spotlight again I believe they could do something that'd get more people into them, "Willenium" would've sold a lot more if "Potnas" and "The Rain" came out, those are universal songs that everyone'd like....

I thought Will outsold Bow Wow, wtf?! :stars: Yeah there's a lot of garbage on this list, mostly what's on the radio all the time, probably some of the good stuff that never gets airplay didn't even make it on this list...

So wouldn't hip-hop heads lose respect in Will for giving 50 Cent props in an interview? Snoop's just as commercial as 50 these days but "Pump Ya Brakes" turned out well, 50 does have some skills especially on his earlier mixtapes, working with an mc like Will'd probably bring out some energy we haven't seen from him in a while... Wouldn't they call Will a sell-out for doing a song with Lil' Kim? I don't believe in that, Will should be able to collaborate with anybody whether ol' school or new school, it might take with working with newer artists to get the younger fanbase who buys the majority of today's albums to buy the JJFP album, a lot of older fans don't like hip-hop anymore either, they listen to neo soul now.... If Will just does things with ol' school rappers, it won't sell, so what do you want Will to do? Do you wanna see him just work with ol' school artists and producers and only sell a lil' bit or should he work with the top artists of today and sell more? :hmm:... Maybe that's why some hip-hop heads might diss LL for working with Pharrell and Timbaland instead of ol' school producers but I think they got talent too....

Here's the list, not bad at all considering how bad the promotion was and there was 1000s of albums that probably came out this year in music: http://www.billboard.biz/bb/biz/yearendcha...005/tlptitl.jsp

The thing is Jeff likes to do things more on a low than Will does, him not wanting the fame anymore could be the reason why it's been so long we've been waiting so long for a JJFP album, even on "Willenium" too, it might've been Jeff's idea to have his name on the back of the album instead of on the cover, lol, that's pretty close to a JJFP album to me, even if we get something like that, I'll take that, even if I have to read the credits to find out that Jeff worked on all of it, lol... And of course we all know that Will's been doing too many films lately to properly promote his music, he always likes to do things for large audiences so I don't know if he'd be willing to do something just for a limited fanbase although he did say that he doesn't worry about record sales anymore but I don't know if I could believe that all the way 'cause he talks about how he wants to clean up the rap game, ultimately no matter if it's released an independent fanbase or commercial audience I'll be happy for it to drop and that's all I'd wanna see, another JJFP album, we have to see what happens.....

Well the thing is though that like Will said in "Here He Comes": "Fresh Prince was hot, the movies killed him", he just doesn't seem to put enough focus into the music anymore like he used to, he claims that he loves hip-hop more but he needs to show it, he needs to go out and do freestyles, do more performances, I think he should do collabs with some of today's popular rappers too just to show people that he could hang on a track with anybody that they think is hot now, that's why LL's still popular today, LL takes time to collab on other people's albums and they collab with him too, he shouldn't just only do tracks with the ol' school rappers 'cause I don't think many people like ol' school rap that much anymore, most people don't know who Slick Rick is sadly, except for those dedicated rap heads, like if he did a song on Kanye West's album his popularity would increase, he could collab on new school mcs' albums and put ol' school mcs on the JJFP album, that'd please everybody, the kids would be impressed with hearing Will spit on a 50 Cent and Ludacris album and then they'll be inteterested enough buy the JJFP album when it drops and be introduced to ol' school mcs like KRS-ONE and Chuck D....

I think that the problem with Will is that he don't properly put enough time into music after "Code Red", ever since he's been getting more involved into family life and doing so many films, he needs to have people help him with writing lyrics 'cause he don't have that much free time anymore, but with some rappers they just can't write songs even with all the freetime on their hands, I think Will needs to properly put more time into his music again.....

:word: Well the most important thing JJFP need to do is tour for the first time in over 15 years!!!!! :pony: Now as far as people dissin' Will for having ghostwriting, what about Kanye West, Dr. Dre, Snoop, Lil' Kim, etc are all more famous than Will but they use ghostwriters too?

Radio and TV won't play Will's videos automatically 'cause it's "Will Smith", the only way people'd take notice in playing him is if he goes to all the radio and TV shows constantly performing it and talking about the album, that's why Kanye West and 50 Cent have sold so much, they're always talking to the media, Will doesn't do that....

Yeah Will was the top battle rapper in Philly back in the '80s, among those he beat was Smooth B, I wonder if they got any of that footage recorded? I've been saying all along that battle footage needs to be released on DVD 'cause a lot of these kids who think that Eminem is the greatest battle rapper need to be taught a lesson.... :kekeke:

Sure when it comes to a show dissin' Will, they'll show it a million times so everyone could see it but when they give him props they'll show it rarely or one time, I bet they'll never show the top 30 hip-hop videos with Will in it, they'll probably make a new list and put 50 Cent's video in it instead, lol, VH1 sucks! :willvspaparazzi:

How the hell could they diss "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It" after they put it in the top 30 all-time hip-hop videos list a couple years ago? Here's the list to the all time hip-hop videos: 30. Will Smith “Getting Jiggy With It” 29. Jay Z “Hard Knock Life” 28. Sir Mix-A-Lot “Baby Got Back” 27. Missy Elliott “The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)” 26. Ice Cube “It Was A Good Day” 25. P. Diddy feat. Mase “Mo Money Mo Problems” 24. MC Hammer “Can’t Touch This” 23. 23. Outkast “Ms. Jackson” 22. Run DMC “It’s Tricky” 21. De La Soul “Me, Myself & I” 20. Nelly “Country Grammar” 19. LL Cool J “Mama Said Knock You Out” 18. Lauryn Hill “Everything Is Everything” 17. Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five “The Message” 16. Eminem “Stan” 15. DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince “Parents Just Don’t Understand” 14. Snoop Dogg “Gin & Juice” 13. Notorious B.I.G. “Hypnotize” 12. Naughty By Nature “O.P.P.” 11. Coolio “Gansta’s Paradise” 10. Eminem “The Real Slim Shady” 9. P. Diddy “I’ll Be Missing You” 8. 2 Pac feat. Dr. Dre “California Love” 7. Sugar Hill Gang “Rappers Delight” 6. Salt N Pepa feat. EnVogue “Whatta Man” 5. Beastie Boys “Fight For Your Right To Party” 4. LL Cool J “Going Back To Cali” 3. Public Enemy “Fight The Power” 2. Dr. Dre “Nuthin But A G Thang” 1. Run DMC “Walk This Way” VH1 really contradicts themselves, that's what happens when a pop channel tries to talk about hip-hop, they gave props to "Switch" this year but next year they'll diss it probably! :hmm:

That's dope stuff there but for the millionth time people need to be reminded that FP still WRITES his rhymes!!!!!!!!!!! :bat: "Big Will that's my name, WRITING RHYMES, that's my game, ask me again and I'll tell you the same!!!!!!" :willvspaparazzi:

Well black radio disses Will for being clean so I guess Luda must be feeling the same way as Will now that the mainstream media has been dissing him for being explicit, the media sucks....

Well this should sorta be like "Miami" was for "Big Willie Style", released as the last single of the album, if "Lost and Found" did better we'd be able to say that Will'd be able to release 2 or 3 more singles but most likely we're just hopin' that "Tell Me Why" comes out and if a miracle happens and the album starts sellin' crazy when it goes to #1 then maybe we might get "Lost and Found" and "If You Can't Dance"(Slide)/"Pump Ya Brakes", the album probably'd be approaching platinum right now if Will didn't go shoot that film, those performances would've really helped, in the 4 months doing "Pursuit..." the album faded from everyone's memories, if Will spent 6-8 months promoting the album like he said he was gonna, he would've gotten some Grammy nominations, it ain't all Interscope's fault, he deserves some blame too, just like when he shot "Bad Boys II" in the same month 'Born To Reign' was released, he might still be on Columbia right now if he just did a few shows then, "Black Suits..." actually got on TRL too so the album would've gone gold not shipped gold at the very least if he had released "How Da Beat Goes" that summer. It ain't like the record label tells him to go shoot the films, he just goes off to do them, he needs to properly space out time where he just does strictly music for a certain frame and does movies for a certain frame or else his music career'll continue to suffer since he declines to go on tour, his movies haven't suffered 'cause he doesn't reject enough scripts, maybe if black radio wasn't so resistant maybe he wouldn't have to tour but he does have to tour more than most mcs have to in fact.... Frenetic made a good point, Will's not that much known in music anymore after going away for a few years, you have to be constantly doing music to get recognition I guess 'cause radio/TV jocks and fans have short term memories .... :paperbag:

Well most people think that Will just raps about money and sex since "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It" is his most famous song right? Even Nick Cannon was holding a pimp cup and had half naked chicks in one of his videos right? :wiggle: Not all Luda's songs are like his singles, some have subject matter in them too.... I definately think Luda's a better mc than Eminem too, even though I don't like either but if they were both the last 2 rappers on earth, I'd choose Luda, at least he don't rap about killing his mother..... Oprah don't really have any street cred either, probably mostly older white people watch her show so why even put rappers on there anyway? They don't appeal to that audience....

MC Hammer was the 1st rap artist to have an album sell 10 million copies with his "Hammer Please Don't Hurt 'Em " but the media ignores to mention that among the all time great rap albums, sure he dressed funny but so did a lot of ol' school rappers, he was just the most famous, styles changed from then to now, lol, 20 years from now kids'll think we dressed funny, lol... Will's "Big Willie Style" album also sold 10 million, but it seems like the media only mention Pac's, Biggie's and Eminem's albums that sold 10 million among the all time top albums, MC Hammer and FP have appealed to an audience as large as Pac, Biggie, and Eminem but the media won't credit them for that since they ain't gangsta, Pac and Biggie wouldn't sell so much if they were alive, many jumped on the bandwagon when they died, and Eminem wouldn't sell that much if he were black, just like Vanilla Ice, white kids'd still like Vanilla Ice today if he were a gangsta instead of just dancing in videos, MC Hammer and FP deserve more credit but they won't get it 'cause it's positive rap that they're doing, you could say they're the closest to gospel rap that mainstream'll ever have.... I was watching "Rap City" a couple months ago when they had a show for hip-hop in 1997/1998 and they had a list of the top 20 albums from that time period but yet they didn't "Big Willie Style" which outsold all of them!!!! :paperbag: It's like even if "Lost and Found" sold 5 million copies this year, the media wouldn't mention it 5 years from now but they'll probably call 50's album classic, lol.... When it comes to great hip-hop albums I rarely see any of LL's albums mentioned either, I mean come on he's going on his 12th album, to be out that long you had to make something to change the game! In reality half of LL's albums are probably on the same level as "The Chronic", how could they rank somebody doing one album every 10 years that ain't writing lyrics ahead of somebody who does albums every other year who writes all of his lyrics?... Chris Rock actually ranked "Mama Said Knock You Out" higher than basically every media outlet has, they just talk about the song but never the album usually, and that's a shame 'cause like Chris Rock said, mcs basically studied the formula to make a comeback album off that one, I mean even "Lost and Found" emulates some elements to be fair enough as well, "Blueprint", "Stillmatic", etc. are other comeback albums that have "Mama..." elements, it showed mcs to make balanced albums: street tracks, love songs, storytellin' songs, etc.. LL's influenced basically every mc in the last 20 years....

Yo I was just playing... :wiggle:

Wow I got an award I don't know what to say?!!! Maybe I should post some KRS lyrics..... :pony: :lolsign:

Well they diss LL in different ways than they diss Will, when they do a lot of all-time lists they always put the gangsta rappers ahead of LL, I look at that as a small diss but at least they mention him, the point I'm leaning towards is that they'll never consider a positive rapper a top mc of all time like they would gangsta rappers, it's harder for an mc with a positive message to make the game then it is for a gangsta rapper since there's more gangsta rappers, they talk about gangsta rappers more than any positive mc, they make it look like Dr. Dre is the pioneer of rap.... Then again if VH1 thinks Will's so wack they wouldn't even mention him in the top 50 hip-hop artists of all time, they mention MC Hammer too but they rank gangsta rappers ahead of him too.....

I think a lot of his rap peers respect him, it's more of the media who've dissed him, I think if they come around, more rap fans'd be willing to open up to Will, the media works the public like sheep, whoever they say is a dope artist, people go along with that....

There's some gospel rappers out there like him with the same talent if not more talent like the gangsta rappers but they ain't that promoted, especially since the media disses positive rappers like JJFP, MC Hammer, and LL Cool J so much, there probably won't ever be a famous gospel rapper, well the media don't even want people to say Merry Christmas anymore but I won't get too much into that, lol.... It's nice to see that he mentioned Will there in his song, they put "Will2K" in I think as one of the least hip-hop songs and had Vanilla Ice of all people on there dissin' it, what a hypocrite, he wants people to respect him for not being a pop rapper anymore but then he puts Will down, lol?!!! Ain't he the one who made "Ice Ice Baby", lol?!!! I mean "Will2K" ain't one of Will's best songs, but it's not like Eminem's "Real Slim Shady" is a masterpiece either but that don't stop the media from praising "Marshall Mathers LP" so damn much so why can't they praise "Willenium" despite one weak track among many classic tracks? This mc KJ-52 is actually more hip-hop than a lot of mcs out there 'cause a lot of hip-hop heads think Eminem is crazy and needs to straighten his life.... A lot of the gangsta rappers put out weak tracks too but the media won't diss them for that though, if the media was fair they'd rank "Code Red" up there with "The Chronic" and they'd put some of 50 Cent's recent songs on the least hip-hop list, screw the media and all they people who follow along with them like sheep.... People get turned away from gospel rap 'cause they think it's only music about Jesus but really it's mostly just positive hip-hop with a message to it, I might check out for him too now.....

Maybe sometime next year you might be hearing some audio from me, once I get a job I'm gonna start focusing on recording some stuff....

Jazzy's financial advisor's probably begging him to give up DJ'ing and go for a co-star role in Will's films :lolsign: