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I don't care for Will to own a basketball team or having a sneaker line like Jay-Z but the point I was making is he could establish Overbrook to be as big if not bigger than what Jay-Z has done with Roc-a-fella, he could sign mcs that display the positive messages that other hip-hop labels wouldn't sign since they're looking for thug rappers.... Look at Stevie Wonder, he's much older than Will and he got Grammy nominations, age ain't nothin' but a number, there are probably as many musicians as there are actors over the age of 50, there's no need to stop expressing yourself. Will's not getting the respect he deserves in hip-hop 'cause he's selling himself short, like he said in interviews, doing movies so much has killed the rapper inside of him. The reason why he's better known for his movies is 'cause he put more work into doing them, he does 2 or 3 films a year almost, not necessarily that they're better than his music, "Wild Wild West" was poor quality like "Born To Reign", I don't know if any of his movies equal the greatness "Lost and Found", maybe "Ali". He doesn't put in the work that he used to as an mc, JJFP had a lot of street credability for their 5 albums but that's the past now, Will hasn't toured in over 15 years, he don't even drop freestyles on Rap City, so he shouldn't complain about not getting the proper respect he deserves, if he was really the greatest mc he'd drop freestyles and do tours .... His rap peers do respect him, they probably respect him more than they do respect those that MTV put at #1 on the charts, I think it's more teeny boppers and the media that disses him more than anything, you see those dissing him on the internet, they're probably 14 year white kids from the suburbans that're only internet thugs, if he just put in more work to get exposure, the media'd give Will his props definately.... If Will had Jay's work ethic of putting out 10 albums in 10 years even if they ain't all classic, the public'd give Will his due, I'd love to see an mc do 40 albums like James Brown has done, why not, lol? KRS might be able to do that since he don't act that's realistic for him but that might be too much to ask from Will if he still wants to do acting in between so doing 20 or so in a career is realistic, no matter what he should always have time for his family no doubt that's the most important thing in life, don't give me crap about that as an exuse, there's millions of us who have to work 40 hours a week, even when it's a holiday, I'm sure Will don't have to do 10 hour work on Christmas Eve that many have to do today, so they can't spend that much time with their family either but they get the job done...And he could still do a few movies in between like a said, but this 5 movies for 1 album won't get him respect in the media and public eye, he'll be better off just hanging up the mic 'cause people look at that as a joke, if he really wants to be mentioned when people talk about rap he needs to put more work in the studio and stage, bottomline.....

Well it does seem that Nick Cannon is following Will's footsteps by doing 5 films for every album, that's why Will was losing respect as an mc till he dropped "Lost and Found" and if he does 5 films before his next album, he'll start losing that respect again too. :jusmindyabizness: Will was on top of his game when he dropped "Willenium", if he did another classic album and went after battling Eminem instead of doing "Legend Of Bagger Vance" maybe people'd be giving more props for his mc skills right now. The difference is that Nick ain't on top of his mc game yet, who knows maybe his next album'll be dope, if he worked at it hard enough over the last couple years he could've been chasing 50 Cent for the top spot on the charts.... Will looks more like an actor/rapper these days too, music seems like that chick on the side! If Will decides to push off doing a tour again it might not ever happen, his music fans are gonna grow impatient after awhile since it seems like he's catering his movie fans more, it's ridiculous, "Fresh Prince was hot, the movies killed him", he needs to build off the momentum of "Lost and Found", a lot of ol' school mcs or any mc with a positive message would love to be in his position 'cause he still has the money and power to change the game, if I had all that money I'd work harder to save the game! Chuck D and KRS could talk all they want but they don't have that power anymore, Hieroglyphics never have power to shake mainstream, Will needs to make the rap game better for the future mcs like me, he should sign real mcs and make legendary music that could change the world, hip-hop is a great artform that needs to be restored. Honestly if Will waits another 4 years or so to drop another album or at least do something hip-hop related like sign mcs to his label and guest appearances at the very least, I might not like hip-hop that much or look at Will as a real mc like I do now 'cause he's sleeping on the power that he has. LL might not drop albums every year anymore but he always do something hip-hop related to remind people he's an mc, he don't let his movie career overshadow the fact that he's a G.O.A.T. mc, that's why I think LL's a better mc than Will in fact, he doesn't hesitate to do guest appearances, freestyles on mixtapes, etc. before his albums drop. I lost some respect for Queen Latifah too 'cause she could've shut down a lot of these slut female rappers but it's even more trashy than ever now she only does movies, I'll still listen to her albums though, don't get confused I'll still bump JJFP no matter what, but I might not defend Will so much if somebody says that he's an actor not an mc anymore, if he don't put in the work to be a top mc in the game now, he was a top mc is what I'll say though....

btw, they played "Boom! Shake The Room" at the Pacers-Cavs game I saw on ESPN just now...

Maybe he is on crack like Frenetic said or he ain't concerned with his record selling, he might be just jumping on the first offer since he wants to drop his album, he should wait longer till other labels call but basically other labels suck too, you can't win anyway, Def Jam is far superior from a hip-hop standpoint and if you ain't on there you ain't promoted that well unless u go to G Unit but they're faltering lately themselves...

Like I said he could go back to acting when he's older, there's plenty more for him to do with the rap game in the meantime, even if he dies in a few years god forbid but at least he'll be able to get out his thoughts he wanted to, I mean think if he died when he was filming a flick before he got a chance to record "Tell Me Why", that'd be devasting! You can't take things for granted in life, look at how 2Pac and Aaliyah were cut off at young ages, none of us know how long we're here... If he makes it to an older age he could go back to doing scripts, that's secondary in his life, a chick on the side he says, lol, time to prove it son... I would even rather see Will be like James Brown and tear up the stage still when he's 70 years old though when it comes down to it, lol, instead of being like Morgan Freeman at 70 years old.... Nick Cannon is more of an actor/rapper, you won't be seeing people like Chuck D and Kool Moe Dee giving him props for his mc skills anytime soon that's for sure like they do for Will...

No I think I'm going the Jim route now, I want Will to do rapping full time, he's made enough money off of acting already that he could properly promote albums, do tours, and get all the recognition he deserves in the rap game, Will had some great roles but I think it's time to move on, his heart is in hip-hop and he needs to clean it up, he has the power to do it, he could run the buisiness like Jay-Z does by having a label, maybe when he gets older he could back to acting again, music gives him more of a forum for him to properly express his thoughts, there's plenty more that he hasn't said that he could say... There could never be another Will Smith period but the young mc that has a chance to be successful like Will is Kel Spencer and the young actor who has the best chance to be successful like Will is Kel Spencer.... I don't think it's good for somebody to just try to be like one person, they should do their own routines too, I don't know if playing the same roles as Will does is gonna get Nick Cannon that much respect either, you might see me talking about KRS a lot but I'm not KRS, I'm Big Ted, there's things about me that're different from him....

Well releasing one single a year ain't gonna help improve his rapping skills, he'll never be able to hold a mic for Will, if you compare his first few years of rapping to JJFP's there's no comparison, Nick has no street credabilty yet, JJFP had a lot when they started... He's far superior as an actor at this point though with all the different roles he's done, actually more advanced than when Will started acting, this movie could make him a big time actor, like I said I wouldn't care if he exceeds Will in acting, lol.

I'm surprised that he didn't acknowledge Will as a rapper who went on "Oprah", especially since he produced "Party Starter", oh well, lol, anyway here's the article: http://www.playahata.com/ Ludacris says he gave Oprah another Crash Moment but he was censored. New York, (Playahata.com) -Although still a babe in the world of rap, Ludacris has grown. “This record is the life report of my life for past year,” he says. “It’s me learning everyday, being more educated and becoming a better rapper and entertainer. Now that Disturbing the Peace has hit the street I feel like we have really arrived but I hope the best is yet to come. But Luda admits being on The Oprah show was a big, big moment for him even if Oprah dissed him or at least tried to. Prior to Luda, Only three rappers had ever appeared on Oprah show. Kanye West to discuss his car accident, Puff and LL Cool J for Clothing and overall stardom and then himself as part of the cast of Crash. The rapper /actor appeared on HO7 97 on December 15TH Speaking with Ainge Martinez. (Excerpts and edits below) Ainge Martinez: I was watching Oprah and I saw you. I noticed Oprah was giving everybody “love” and then she came to you Ludacris and she said she has a problem with your lyrics but that you did a good in the film also but she treated you like you were 5 years old man.What was that all about? Ludacris: That’s true, I felt the same way she played me out but I came back at her strong in defense of hip hop on many things but Oprah’s people censored everything I said. “I had so many comments in my defense. In all honesty Oprah never wanted me on the show. I called my agency and was like why am I not able to come. I am on there as an actor, Chris Bridges. This can’t be about my lyrics. I am not sure if it was a hate rap thing or hate my lyrics. I had to fight to get onto Oprah. They called me the night before the show and said ok, although it was 2 months before where everybody else knew.” Oprah later pulled me into a side room, closed the door and lied to me saying that the late approval was cause I was told I could only have a few people but I was like “c’mon you are OPRAH, nobody gives you orders”. She apologized and told me this was the case; I was in the hot seat but I handled her. Unfortunately they edited me to punk me on TV, they censored a lot, like when I talked about my 150,000 Katrina contribution, they even censored that. My next album I am going to talk about it. On my next album In 2006 this will be dealt with in a positive manner . I told her we are young and we are experiencing problems and making mistakes in hip hop we are evolving. She said in the past she had skinheads on her show but some people felt like they simply having them onthey were still be given a positive platform. I think she was comparing giving rappers a platform to giving skinheads a platform. I won’t disrespect Oprah but on my next album I will air it out. Editors note: The timing of the Ludacris testimony is interesting since a recent conspiracy theory website has gained popularity and it claimed that Oprah was part of a conspiratorial powerful Black Group that was into censorship. http://www.hot97.com/multimedia/interviewP...artist=Ludacris

Yeah "I'm A Hustla"'s a dope beat, Kel Spencer used that for his song "Grindin'" with Tatyana Ali...

Oh damn that's terrible, my thoughts go out to him and his wife...

Nick Cannon should leave the rapping to Will and just do as many movies as he wants to, I honestly wouldn't care if he takes Will's #1 spot in the boxoffice, releasing singles once a year ain't gonna get Nick Cannon much recognition as an mc, nobody remembers his last album....

Yeah there might've been some production for this album that Jazzy Jeff was gonna put on here but Interscope probably couldn't budget for the sampling the way that Columbia did for "Willenium"....

Thanks for the support y'all, I'm gonna keep going towards my shadow dreams going step by step till I get it!

I don't think you need to necessarily perform for them to play your video do you?

Well I read DMX's book and he said that he battled Jay in '96 around the time "Reasonable Doubt" dropped and DMX was still shopping for a deal....

Tyrese ain't no Denzel by any means but he's a decent actor, I liked "Baby Boy" and "Four Brothers"...

btw, I was just checking the okayplayer board and somebody made a "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" appreciation post with peeps callin' it one of the best hip-hop albums of the golden era! :2thumbs:

That's aight if it's just him and his brothers, I was just curious that's all, but if he needs a hype man he could holla at me, lol. In all seriousness though Will should be in Kel's video, they could both make appearances at 106 & Park and Rap City, that'd bring some hype....

Does Kel Spencer really have a record deal or is he just still trying to get picked up somewhere? I know he talks about starting his own label but did he really start one, does he sign mcs? I'd love to get down, I might send an email to him...

I don't think signing to G Unit is gonna help Mase and Mobb Deep that much as that thought it would've, look at how poorly Tony Yayo and Young Buck did with their albums, "The Definition" sold more than those 2 albums combined, LL always has a solid fan base and he's releasing this new album faster than he usually does so it could go platinum plus easily, I think the movie with Queen Latifah next month could bring more fans than usual too 'cause that's probably gonna be a hit, I saw an ad for it yesterday when I was watching TV... LL never had an album sell 10 million but a lot of artists in popular music in any genre might sell like 10 million when they first come out then they fade away quickly, remember how big Ricky Martin used to be? Backstreet Boys anyone, lol? LL was selling 2 million with "Mama Said Knock You Out" while Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer sold 10 million but where are they now? LL's still going platinum while few people hear from MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice... It's better to sell a lil' bit over a large amount of time, then to sell a whole lot in a lil' 'mount of time, LL's built for the marathon....

Perhaps it was a member of Tra-Knox who voted for it :jusmindyabizness:

Tyrese To Release Rap Album By: Alyssa Rashbaum December 20, 2005 Perhaps tired of the R&B life, Tyrese has decided to venture into rap territory with a new album, Alter Ego. The singer/actor, who has released three albums since 1998, will try his hand at rapping with the help of some of hip hop’s finest, including /b> and R. Kelly, according to MTV News. The forthcoming double album will be half rap, half classic Tyrese-style R&B. "I go in tonight with [Robin 'Lady of Rage' Allen] and Yo-Yo, and I’m with Ice Cube on Monday and Tuesday," he told MTV News. "There’s been some incredible momentum, and I couldn’t have asked, or even prayed, for as much support as I’ve gotten on this transition."

I've been looking for a job for months, going 'round my area asking for work, filling out applications, checking the classifieds, etc., but so far I haven't found anything yet and it's been getting me down,. I try to stay up beat and positive so my parents won't worry about me but I wanna work so I could be more independent, I don't wanna have to depend on my parents to help me all time and that's the part that hurts me inside, I could appreciate the support y'all, peace...

I think he's referring the Spurs and Pistons.... Lakers are only a .500 team, well after last night my Bulls ain't even that though so I shouldn't be talking, well starting 0-9 last year was worse... :paperbag: Well the Knicks fans are having a lump of coal for Christmas this year, 6-18, how pathetic and Curry's played most of the games, some of my friends like them so I could always dog them about that! :rofl:

I'm gonna pin this topic since Kel's a JJFP potna, we need to show him some support, I put it on my wishlist, there's no doubt I'm gettin' this in early '06, I was just downloading some of these tracks, this is raw hip-hop!