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Yeah Jaz-O does seem to sound a lil' bitter and overconceited there, some of the things he said about the rap game is true and Jay-Z is a biter but for him to also say that he could beat Melle Mel, Outkast, and LL Cool J in a battle then everything he says before in that interview loses credability, he probably wants to start a battle to resurrect his dead career, that's a gimmick too. :thumbdown:

Jaz-O basically murdered Jay-Z on every track they did together, he got a sick flow, I'd actually wanna hear more stuff out from him, basically I just heard him on songs he did with Jay-Z, he made Jay-Z as big as he is today by teaching him how to write songs, Jay-Z shouldn't diss him ever. What's up with Jaz-O saying that Big Daddy Kane and LL bit off of him though? :hmm:

Now I think he was giving praise to Will's accomplishments but also criticised Will for being egotistical by going on "Rap City" talking about how great he is, saying that Will has insecurties even though he has all the fame already. He was taking shots about Dr. Dre's credability for using ghostwriters and making rhymes for a life he don't live anymore and Jay-Z for talking about how he gracefully bows out in a song but in reality he was arrested for gun possession, it sounds like this person doesn't like rap too much, lol.

Jay-Z bites off a lot of people so this ain't really a shock to me, that's why I could never consider him one of the greatest mcs but basically nobody out now is original anyway so that's why people consider Jay-Z the best now but I dare wouldn't put him in the same sentence as a Rakim. People with short term memories about the rap history would though like Jaz-O implies when people talk about great 50 is when he's just a poser and that wack "Laffy Taffy" getting lots of airplay, most of them rappers today shouldn't have record deals they're so unoriginal, a bunch of corporate gimmicks, I could feel what Jaz-O says there, real talk. I personally wish Will'd call out more of these fake rappers like this when he's interviewed, somebody has to knock them out the game to bring the artistry back...

If you read the credits for "Chronic 2001" you'd see that Scott Storch, Melle Man, and Lord Finesse among others produced tracks on there, he basically hires a bunch of producers to produce tracks for him since he started his Aftermath label, basically "California Love" was the last track he produced on his own. Eminem produces most of his own tracks now. I'd say that if Dre don't write his rhymes or produce his tracks there's no way he could be the best producer on the mic like people say he is or call him the Quincy Jones of hip-hop, that title should go out to Pete Rock or Diamond D when it comes to best producer on the mic since they write all their songs, produce all their tracks and would kill Dr. Dre in a freestyle battle, before Dr. Dre should diss Will he should put in some more work.

Well I'd have no idea since I didn't listen to Cassidy's album but I guess he's doing the same thing that Will did when he was on Westwood by just rapping his songs, I thought he was in jail still...

Thanks for sharing your experience wit us, I'm happy for you! :2thumbs: :yeah:

The NFL's doing the same thing now too sorta since that Janet Jackson incident they're probably not gonna have any artists from the hip-hop generation perform at the Super Bowls for a while, it's unfair how one single incident like that makes everyone look bad, it's unfair, only those who do it should be punished, not everyone...

Damn I'd love to seen that episode, sounded entertaining to say the least, here's the part about Will: Rap Royalty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Will Smith, Dr. Dre, and Jay-Z By Jon Caramanica JANUARY 24, 2000: Will Smith, bless his non-ironic soul, is always good for those jolt-into-reality moments that too much criticism, alas, can inure you to. Twice in the past two weeks, Big Willie's taken to the small screen and demonstrated just how far rap, and he along with it, has come this decade. Or not. First, during the millennium celebration at the White House, Will burst forth with good cheer so infectious -- it was, after all, the dawn of the new Willennium -- that even the other Big Willie (Clinton, that is) was seen to be raising the roof alongside the Fresh Prince with childish, miscegenatory glee. Just 10 days later, Will dropped the toothy grin for an oddball appearance on BET's Rap City, typically the purview of artists more thuggy than he. With a gold nameplate chain dangled loosely around his neck (didn't see that one in the Vanity Fair shoot), he attempted to reclaim his post in the rap pantheon -- or, more to the point, carve one out. "Name anyone and I'll take them out," he boasted (or something to that effect). "Let's talk lyrics, flow, personality. I'll take on anyone!" The ravings of a madman, practically, but a far better clue to Will's heart than his making a race traitor of the commander-in-chief. Respect -- is that too much to ask? I mean, four platinum albums and as many Grammys -- what more does it take? It seems that ever since Will started talking about running for president, no one takes him seriously as a rapper. Or maybe it's since he tangled with extraterrestrials in not one but two summer blockbusters. Or since he started wonking about whupping Mike Tyson's ass. Whatever the genesis, releasing albums like Willennium (Columbia) isn't helping his cause. Smith's second album as a soloist, following a lengthy ride as the warm and fuzzy Fresh Prince, sees his rapping persona stripped of all pretensions to the authenticity that he appears to crave and that other rappers wear like tattoos or easily secreted firearms. As the Fresh Prince, Will at least bore some of the traditional marks of the so-called real -- fly gear, braggadocio rhymes. All worn, of course, through a distinctly suburban, middle-class filter. As the Rap City outburst demonstrates, however, there's the fire of a samurai lurking beneath that mild-mannered exterior. He sets out to prove it from jump, practically screaming "I'm coming! I'm coming! You can't stop me!" on the chorus to Willennium's opener. Yet what Will apparently fails to grasp is that in every braggart lies a heart of insecurity -- it's easier to side with someone whose confidence is earned through battle scars. When Will raps about his Bentley, it sounds more like a privilege than a luxury. "Heard you screaming about cream in your rap, kid," he taunts on "Freakin' It," slaying with the proclamation, "Yo, my last check for Wild Wild West came on a flatbed." Maybe he's just indignant, but he's looking for love in all the wrong places

I heard this on the radio a few days ago, this is another street banger, I'm hyped for this album already!! :bowdown:

RIP to the GOAT comedian!

http://weeklywire.com/ww/01-24-00/boston_music_1.html

:word: It takes him 7 years to release an album and the rhymes ain't even his, that's embarassing! :paperbag:

Dr. Dre has been using ghostproducers on mostly everything he's done after "The Chronic"...

I doubt that Kanye's gonna retire after that album, mostly everybody says they're gonna retire and they come back, lol. Dr. Dre was saying that around the time "2001" dropped and also had that skit with Eminem in "Forgot About Dre" probably based on Will's comments at the MTV Awards that year in '99 and the comments Will made in "Freakin' It", they took Will's comments too seriously 'cause he wasn't dissin' them directly, Dr. Dre could've said nothin' and maybe Jazzy Jeff would be ghostproducin' beats for him now, lol.

Nas is like LL Cool J where a lot of rappers say they want to collab with him, he's quite respected in the rap industry.

Well that'd be realistic before Nas and Jay-Z squashed their beef 'cause Nas was talking in an interview about joining Atlantic records. That's where Fat Joe is now and Ja Rule is going now that he's leaving Def Jam, but now there's rumors with Nas is gonna go to Def Jam to do an album with Jay-Z, we'll have to see what happens, a collabo album'd shake up the rap game...

:word: Even if "Lost and Found" sold 5 million they'd find a way not to nominate it for anything but no matter how foul the music industry treats him now, you can't take away the fact that Will won the 1st RAP grammy! btw, it's hard to put somebody in a pop category when they don't sell millions of albums, that's why I was shocked that they gave Will the best male artist at the AMAs, that was one of the top awards, it's easier for a rapper to win a rap award than it is to win a pop award, only the top selling rappers get in the pop category, that's why I'm shocked Kanye got nominated for album of the year, I figured they'd gave the nod to Eminem or 50 Cent since they outsold him.

I could see how they could choose Common's "Be" over "Lost and Found" in the nomination since Common had more hype for his album with higher reviews plus his association with Kanye probably helped, that's why John Legend got so many nominations too, I figure that R. Kelly would have more nominations than him in the r&b catagory. "Switch" would probably get put in the best pop song of the year but I think a couple of rappers are in that category too though so it's dissapointing they chose "Candy Shop" over "Switch" but when 50 Cent sells 4 million he gets the edge over Will. They need to explain though how they'd choose Missy Elliot's album over Will's when Will outsold her and his album stayed on the charts longer than her song, I think she got a couple other nominations for her singles too when "Switch" did better than her singles, not to mention that his album had higher reviews too. They nominated LL's "The Definition" last year for rap album of the year even though "Headsprung" didn't do as well as "Switch" and he got the lowest album reviews in years so I figured from that alone "Lost and Found" would've been nominated. The music industry seems to be so biased against Will but at least he won an AMA award where Common didn't even get nominated for that, they probably meant to give than AMA to Eminem instead of Will Smith, it was probably a typo, lol.

Yeah you could say that it's a producer driven game, that's why "Switch" was such a huge hit even though Will didn't seem to rhyme much on that track, all you need is a hot beat with a couple of lines in between and you got yourself a hit, I wish Dr. Dre wouldn't waste his beats on Eminem and 50 Cent so much and give beats to Will Smith, Nas, and LL instead.

I don't like that many Fabolous and Loon songs but you can't deny that they got nice punchlines, they'd destroy 50 in a mic battle...

Well after Dr. Dre said "Willenium" is the worst album he's ever heard I lost some respect for him, yeah "Chronic 2001" had some dope singles but there was quite a bit of filler on that and I thought a couple of the beats on there sounded simplistic, I don't think him and Ice Cube beef anymore though, that beef ended like 10 years ago man... It'd be nice to see Nas go to Def Jam to get some more promotion but I hope that working with Jay-Z doesn't change his style to sound too commercial, I wanna see him keep doing those deep songs that's he's best known for! If LL, Nas, and Jay-Z do a track together that'd knock a lot of wack mcs out of the game.

I like that Will does the ol' school UTFO verse in the song, all these rappers usually just give props to Pac and Biggie but Will shows that there was hip-hop before them.

Well I hope it's better than "Chronic 2001", that album was not close to the level of "The Chronic", too much generic s*** on it, most likely he'll have Eminem and 50 Cent on half of his tracks so I don't care much for it, if he does tracks with Snoop, Warren G, and Ice Cube then maybe I'll check for it.

It's like pick ur poison when it comes to these awards, they do it mostly on sales, what's so artistic about Eminem and 50 Cent albums? I figure that even Ying Yang Twins and Mike Jones would've been nominated before Common and Missy Elliot would. Most of these nominations were wack, I'm surprised that Common and Stevie Wonder got 4 nominations, it'd be nice if they win, hopefully De La could win one too, they deserve to win their 1st grammy.