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That's great news, too bad "Party Starter" didn't make it though, btw I'm watching it right now and they just showed it.

:word: Let's hope it comes out soon!

That's awesome to see all the props there, I'm gonna check it out, we should spread the word 'bout this mixtape to other hip-hop websites. I was checking Kel's website and notice that they don't sell it there yet, in his bio it mentions how he was on all these mixtapes, he should sell them there too.

We should bump this post up when the Colts lose in the playoffs.... :kekeke:

Murder Inc. Rap Mogul Acquitted in N.Y. By DAVID CARUSO Associated Press Writer NEW YORK - A rap mogul known for his gangster persona and for producing chart-topping acts under the Murder Inc. label was acquitted Friday of federal charges alleging he laundered drug money for a notorious crack kingpin. Irving Lorenzo and his brother Christopher were found not guilty of money laundering at a trial closely followed by some of the music industry's biggest stars. Supporters erupted in cheers as the jury's decision was announced, and a few jurors asked to meet with the brothers to hug and congratulate them. "We did it! We did it!" Irving Lorenzo shouted as his lawyers carried him out of the courthouse. "In this case, they had it 100 percent wrong," he said. In the courtroom, supporters of Lorenzo, who goes by the name Irv Gotti, included Jay-Z, Fat Joe and Russell Simmons, along with Ja Rule and Ashanti, platinum-selling artists signed by Murder Inc. Ja Rule had labeled the case "a war against hip hop." The brothers could have faced up to 20 years in prison. In closing arguments, prosecutor Carolyn Pokorny told jurors that the Lorenzos struck an illicit deal in the late 1990s with Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff, who she described as "one of the biggest, baddest, most dangerous drug lords in New York City." The defense countered that the brothers were victims of guilt by association. "There's nothing illegal about knowing a criminal, about socializing with a criminal, even doing business with a criminal, unless you commit a crime," said defense attorney Gerald Shargel. "Irv and Chris Lorenzo committed no crime." McGriff allegedly funneled more than $1 million in drug money, much of it from Baltimore, through Murder Inc. in return for serving as the Lorenzos' protector and enforcer. A government witness who once worked at the label testified that he saw a "huge amount" of money delivered in shopping bags and a shoe box in 2000. Prosecutors said Murder Inc. cut tens of thousands of dollars in checks for sham corporations controlled by McGriff, including a movie company that produced a straight-to-video film called "Crime Partners 2000." The label also covered his expenses as he traveled around the country masquerading as an entertainment executive, Pokorny said. The defense portrayed Irving Lorenzo as a legitimate businessman who went from rags to riches by taking the Gotti name - an ode to the late mob boss - as a sales ploy and teaming with Def Jam, a subsidiary of Universal Music, to start Murder Inc. He invested in McGriff's movie because he was an old friend from their Queens neighborhood, Shargel said. "Even if Supreme McGriff was the biggest drug dealer in the world, and even if 'Crime Partners' was the worst film in the history of American entertainment, there is nothing illegal about giving backing to a movie," he said. Murder Inc. changed its name to The Inc. last year after executives said the label's image was hurt by the case.

Shaq might not be close the greatest lyricist in the world but he's the only NBA rapper that went platinum, that'd be the equivalent of Game making the NBA All-Star team one day. :kekeke: Well if Tony Parker's raps suck, at least we won't all be able to understand it unless we know French, lol.

maybe they should be blasted in a blog... :bat:

Shaq's better than all the G Unit rappers though! :willvspaparazzi:

http://allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=5010 Spurs Tony Parker Records With Fabolous, French Album On The Way By Nolan Strong Date: 11/1/2005 9:35 am San Antonio Spurs basketball star Tony Parker is following in the footsteps of such athletes as Shaquille O’Neal, Kobe Bryant, Ron Artest and others and is working on a Hip-Hop album. The untitled album will feature Parker rapping in his native language of French. Production is being handled by Polygrafic of Texas' Sound Scientists, a collective of producers and audio engineers. Parker, 25, recently recorded a song with Brooklyn, New York rapper Fabolous called “Top of the Game,” which also features popular French rapper Booba. A video for “Top of the Game” was shot recently and features Spurs teammates Robert Horry, Tim Duncan, Nazr Mohammed and Brent Barry. Parker, who was born in Belgium and raised in France, is a French citizen. He entered the NBA in 2001 and became the second French player to play in the NBA, behind Tariq Abdul-Wahad. Parker helped the Spurs win NBA titles in 2003 and 2005. After winning his 2005 NBA championship ring, Parker performed a rap song in French in front of 65,000 cheering fans. No release date was available for the album at press time.

I think hip-hop needs to go back to being an artform again, even it becomes less commericialised, it's disgusting to see how watered down it's become after we had creative hip-hop artists in the golden era like Run-Dmc, LL Cool J, JJFP, Public Enemy, NWA, and MC Hammer selling millions of records with their own unique styles, and now it's all turned into disposable music from fools like 50 Cent, Nelly, Ying Yan Twins, Mike Jones, Bow Wow, etc. that're sellouts to the black community. It's a sad thing that we go from JJFP winning the 1st rap grammy ushering the artistry to the masses to Nelly and Eminem winning grammies for gimmicks embarassing the rap community and having white conservatives think that all rappers are thugs but there's a whole crop of positive rappers not being promoted so nobody knows that except hip-hop heads. There was gangsta rappers like NWA dominating the rap charts but there was balance so people saw that not all rappers were gangsters so rap was credible but now with all of these fake gangstas dominating the charts, rap doesn't have much credility since it looks disposable. None of those disposable rappers like Nelly to win Grammies or even be nominated for that matter but it's like all their albums would be in consideration more than a Nas or Public Enemy album that was artistically crafted, hopefully Will winning that AMA last week could bring hope that more talented artists in the rap community could win awards instead of the disposable acts.

great job tim, who knows maybe JJFP'll read our blogs! :2thumbs: :mygod:

BET got no credability anyway, those are probably the fools who vote for 50 Cent and Bow Wow to be on 106 & Park everyday and they diss all the ol' school pioneers since they're only 13 years old. You can't expect fans who like disposable music to like Will Smith so if a couple of them like him it's all good, I'd get bent out of shape if it was a forum with hip-hop heads dissin' him, that's what'd piss me off, lol. There was surprisingly a couple good comments in there though: "I dislike 50 cent because his whole hustle is about bashing and beefing with other people that are popular to sell his records and album. If he's so talented then he shouldn't have to use a gimmick to sell his music. To me he wants to be another Eminem but, he can't rap like Em. Every dog has his day and I will be so happy when his "15 mins of fame " is over because all he represents to me is a non-talented *53*y, who hates on everyone that gets a little recognition. So, I am so happy that Will Smith beat him at the AMAs. " "First of i just wanna say big up to will smith, him winning over a fake white boy rapper and a gangster wanna be rapper is hot, what we have to remember is will is one of the pioneer’s of hip hop and deserver’s to shine all the way, Will Smith never changed always kept it real and never used Gimmick’s and Beef's to sell records, second of all Destiny's child winning was a well deserved but their very talented and their last album Destiny's fulfilled was hot I’m sorry but Mariah's album was Hot but no way can it touch Destiny’s child! Let’s not forget Black Eye Peace’s are Hot ya’ll know it to!" "hey i think will smith deserve the award i dont to much care for 50 "

:word: This is definately about safety and education like Schnazz said there, there were problems in the black community before hip-hop was popular and even if hip-hop dies out there'll still be those problems still if those issues ain't adressed.

Well with JJFP doing radio shows next month I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out next month but I voted January, hopefully that's the latest it comes out, it's kinda hard to milk "Party Starter" since it ran dry already, like I said earlier "Tell Me Why"'ll most likely be the last single until the next album no matter how well it does.

I heard that Usher's movie flopped badly and had quite a few trash reviews, it only did about $6 million over the Thanksgiving weekend...

That's why JJFP need to do a 2 hour show instead of these short 20 minute gigs so that way they could do a lil' bit more of their catalog instead of the usual "Miami", "Jiggy", "MIB", "Summertime" that you'd do in that short period. "Code Red" was a classic album but it was JJFP's lowest sellin' album with no hits except for "Boom! Shake The Room" which Will hates so he won't perform that, and it's not like the mainstream audience'd be familiar with those songs if JJFP's doing a radio or 106 & Park gig.

Well it's 'cause these are mainstream shows that everybody performs only their hits since it's a limited amount of time for performance, Bow Wow, Eminem, Jay-Z, etc. all perform their hits when they have shows on MTV where they don't care for substance, they don't play multisyllable rhymes on there. When artists have a proper tour they'll have more time to perform songs that their hardcore fans would love, JJFP need to have a proper tour...

How the rap music industry is destroying the black community By Noah B. Stephens The Hustle Willie Lynch in his 1712 letter to fellow slave owners detailed a foolproof method for controlling slaves. He encouraged slave owners to divide blacks against each other at every opportunity and using every imaginable dichotomy: light against dark, fine haired against coarse, old against young, man against woman, even tall against short. Additionally, Lynch urged slave owners to condition slaves to fear, distrust, and envy each other. He predicted that if his method was used correctly, successive generations of blacks people would impose this self-defeating, divisive indoctrination on themselves for "hundreds of years, maybe thousands." Three hundred years later, I watch BET and wonder if Willie Lynch was a prophet. Black rappers, record label executives, and black-owned or operated television and radio stations and magazines actively participate in creating and disseminating images of materialism, misogyny, and criminality that divide and destabilize the black community. These images divide the same as Lynch\'s method: materialism inspires envy, misogyny inspires distrust, and criminality inspires fear. The destructive imagery of songs like DMX's "What these *****es Want (from a *****)" is explained well enough by the song's title. Why do blacks in the music industry churn out divisive, denigrating imagery? It's profitable. White people buy it and buy it a lot (According to the record sales tracking organization SoundScan, 71 percent of rap music consumers are white). Social critics often ask why is rap so vile. They should ask why are whites so interested in vile rap. Why do they buy Ludacris instead of Talib Kweli? Black buffoonery sells well because it reaffirms popular racist notions about who black people are. Selling this imagery has made a few dozen black music moguls rich. But at what cost to the rest of us? The Imagery Through the miracle of mass media, blacks in the rap music industry distribute divisive imagery far more efficiently than any slave owner could have hoped. The airwaves and newsstands overflow with Lynch-like indoctrination. In your average, high rotation rap video: Black women are reduced to half-naked, gyrating, mute video décor slithering around a rented mansion or luxury car (It's also noteworthy that they are almost always light-skinned with long hair âEUR" further enforcing divisive Eurocentric ideas about color and hair). Meanwhile, the ex-dope- dealer-turned-rapper of the moment mean mugs and rhymes about how he "don't love these hoes, " or about the wide assortment of designer fashions he owns (because "real *****s" wear clothes designed by white men in Paris). Some dismiss these images as harmless entertainment or argue these images cannot influence the strong-minded or undermine the work of decent parenting. Consider this: · Imagery's power to influence behavior is proven fact. It is the idea upon which the multi-billion dollar advertising industry is based. If you are exposed to 45 advertisements touting the deep cleaning power of Tide you are more likely to buy Tide simply because that is the brand with which you are most familiar. If you see or hear something enough it will take root in your subconscious. It will influence behavior. Even the strong-minded can be affected by imagery if only subconsciously. I am a grown, fairly strong-minded man. But after two or three sexually charged rap videos I always develop the inexplicable urge to call long lost female "friends" whom really don't like. Hmm. Unfortunately, many of our homes do not have strong parents. Even in homes where strong parents are present, they often cannot guard their children's impressionable minds against this corrosive imagery because they are too busy putting food on the table. If this imagery affects grown ups, imagine how these images affect toddlers, school- age children, pre-teens and teenagers who do not have the life experience to put into perspective these absurd caricatures of black life. The Affect Being inundated by these images affects our relationships with each other in the following ways: A· Young black boys learn to distrust young black women âEUR\" they are mostly gold diggers and hoes. They only want your money, make sure you get sex in return. B· Young black girls learn to distrust young black men" they only want your "big tits and your matching ass," so make sure they pay you for it. C· Our poor learn they are worthless compared to the car-cost-as-much-as-a-house, necklace-cost-as-much-as-a-car rich" just stare and wallow in your poor worthlessness (or better yet, rob that fool). D· The dark-skinned learn they are not as desirable as their light- skinned counterparts. E· The old learn that the young are disrespectful, tattooed thugs home on parole don't lend them money or rent your apartments to them; they're criminals. Don't offer them guidance, just avoid eye contact with them and pray to Sweet Jesus they don't shoot you. Envy. Distrust. Fear. Woman against man. Light against dark. Old against young. Blacks imposing self-defeating, divisive ideas on other blacks. Lynch's plan to control black people is being acted out; projected 24 hours a day by the most wide-reaching mass media in history. It's no wonder we don't support black businesses. It's no wonder we find it increasingly more difficult to sustain romantic relationships. It's no wonder black men are afraid of showing any emotions besides anger and disregard lest they be seen as a target. It's no wonder our elders are willing to write off an entire generation of young potential; a generation in desperate need of guidance. Three hundred years after Lynch's letter, rap is the most dynamic, influential music in modern history, music that has the potential to affect immense change for the better. Instead, for the sake of entertaining whites, blacks willfully project images that corrupt our children and our relationships with each other. The Reason Blacks in the rap music industry are manipulated by same good ole American greed that seduced black overseers in the slave industry. We're happy to malign each other for an extra helping of cornbread. A handful of blacks in the music business prosper, while rap music is the preeminent source of imagery that destabilizes tens of millions in the black community. The community destabilizing, divisive imagery of rap music is allowed and encouraged because it helps keep the black community poor. Social science suggests a link between broken homes (spurred by male/female mutual distrust) and cycles of crime and poverty. The materialistic imagery of hip-hop further encourages poverty by advocating financial irresponsibility. Instead of celebrating commodities that build wealth (stocks, property, savings), materialistic imagery lauds items that depreciate (cars, jewelry, clothes). Materialistic envy encourages the poor to live beyond their means. To floss like their favorite rapper, the poor buy clothes and lease cars they can't afford digging themselves deeper in debt while keeping the appearance of wealth (how many of us know grown men who drive Cadillac trucks, but live with their mother). It would seem in the best interest of any society to eliminate poverty and the unemployment, underemployment, crime, and high rate of single parent households associated with it. In truth, there is an economic need for poverty. Someone has to flip burgers, wash cars, clean toilets, and fill prisons. The only question is who will fill the underclass. In both deliberate and subtle ways blacks have been selected to fill the underclass using the same divisive indoctrination advocated in the Lynch letter. As slaves, blacks were this country\'s most economically and socially depressed underclass. A century and a half after slavery's end, black people are still disproportionately represented in America's underclass. The Solution This essay is not a condemnation of all hip-hop. A large segment of hip-hop is thoughtful, insightful and inspiring. Rather, the intention is to raise consciousness of an indoctrination campaign that is helping divide and control the black community. It's to inspire blacks in the music industry to consider the role they play in this campaign and the role they can play in stopping it. Black rappers, magazine editors, programming directors, and station owners must recognize that when we promote imagery that destabilizes the black community we fulfill Lynch's prophecy. Profitable as promoting that imagery may be, at some point we must decide what is most important: material wealth or spiritual well being. In her brilliant book Salvation Black People and Love bell hooks writes, "Loving blackness is more important than gaining access to material privilege." From the day we arrived on America's shores, we've been taught to hate our blackness. In doing so, we were divided and easily controlled. Blacks overseers cracked the whip on other blacks because they hated blackness. If you hate blackness today, you are willing to poison black minds for a Cadillac truck. Obviously, financial stability greatly improves quality of life. But financial stability must be sought in light of communal and personal responsibility and with full understanding that wealth does not guarantee happiness. In fact, as the late Notorious BIG noted, more money often brings more problems. In the final analysis, no amount of material wealth can replace the spiritual peace found in love for yourself and your community. Renouncing destabilizing imagery does not necessarily mean it must be replaced by inane positivity. Positivity is not necessarily true. Realistically truthful images of black life should become commonplace in hip-hop. Single parent households, poverty, and going away to prison are a reality in black life. So are marriages, tree-lined communities with manicured lawns, and going away to college. The beauty, love, and joy in our lives should be a part of our art. We can't harp on gloom, anger, and overt sexuality because it sells to white people. One of hip-hop's most enduring mantras is "keeping it real." A rapper will scream, "I don't love these hos" in the name of keeping it real. But that same rapper has a wife and three kids at home. You love at least one ho. If you are going to make songs about scandalous women, make as many or more songs about the wife you love. Otherwise, there\'s nothing real about you. We have to redefine what it means to keep it real. For example, sex is a part of black life and all life on earth. Completely barring sexuality from hip-hop would make hip-hop unrealistic. The challenge is to deal realistically and responsibly with the potentially destabilizing imagery of sex, wealth, and crime. Cee-lo's "Closet Freak" is a song and video concept that handles sexual imagery responsibly. In the first line of "Closet Freak" Cee- lo acknowledge that sex is a natural urge indulged by "everybody that\'s grown." With this line alone, Cee-lo sets the stage for a responsible, realistic discussion of sex. Responsible because Cee-lo frames sex as an activity to be enjoyed by adults. Responsible because every single woman in the video for "Closet Freak" is fully clothed. Realistic because Cee-lo describes sex as a desire shared by all people. This is important because blacks are stigmatized for enjoying the most basic and necessary comforts in life. When we enjoy a cool, juicy fruit on a hot day we're "watermelon eatin' coons." When we enjoy sitting in front of our homes on a summer day we're "porch monkeys." Similarly, black sexuality has long been a stigmatized taboo. Songs like "Closet Freak" deconstruct divisive stigmas and responsibly portray black life. That's keeping it real. Ultimately, we will determine what hip-hop becomes. Hip-hop is an art form so deeply rooted in the black experience that no other group can authentically replicate it. We exclusively create and sustain it. If black rappers stop making denigrating songs, denigrating songs will stop being played. If black program directors choose to ban videos and songs with destabilizing imagery, they will not be played. If black magazine and newspaper editors do cover stories on acts like Cee-lo, Mos Def, Common, Blackalicious, and dead prez our children are less likely to be influenced by rappers who glorify criminality, greed, and misogyny. If rap consumers demand responsible hip-hop artists receive their due publicity in magazines and airtime on radio and television, they will. If rap consumers buy CDs and attend concerts by responsible hip-hop artists, responsible hip-hop will thrive. If blacks in the music industry continue to be manipulated by greed, Lynch 's prophesy will be fulfilled. To view the Willie Lynch document: http://www.uky.edu/StudentOrgs/AWARE/archives/lynch.html

Bow Wow doesn't think that being a 10 years old rapper wasn't a gimmick? :paperbag: btw, that was Lil' Romeo not Bow Wow who was on "Parents Just Don't Understand" remake, not Lil' Bow Wow. Will was gonna produce a movie for Lil' Bow Wow though a couple years ago, maybe he's upset that didn't happen, he's probably jealous that Will's gonna produce a movie for his ghostwriter TI! :rofl:

Is this the same issue of XXL that he made the statements about Will before? What'd make XXL interview Bow Wow so much, what relevant thing has he done to get so much pub for? I don't see Jay-Z responding to the statement that Bow Wow made about him not being real anymore either, nobody cares about Bow Wow, he's irrelevant, he don't win awards, sell millions of albums, or have any critical acclaim like a real mc would have for anybody to really sweat him, Nas said that he'd wait for 50 Cent to do 6 albums to respond to him but imagine what he'd say if Bow Wow dissed him! Bow Wow couldn't even battle Nick Cannon, let alone Will Smith! :rofl: :mygod: I no longer feel that Bow Wow'll be a future legend, instead he's gonna be one of the worst ever right with Vanilla Ice and 50 Cent. It takes a lot of heart for Will to ignore all these ignorant cats dissin' him and not responding, if I was in his place I'd put an end to all of their careers 'cause no matter how nice he is to them they still diss him anyway, I wouldn't take that!

"House Party" gets Kid-N-Play more credability than anything Vanilla Ice's done in his whole career, the only thing people remember about Vanilla Ice is that he's one of the wackest ever, lol.

It's hard to compare "Tell Me Why" to his other songs with different styles than that one, it's probably the best song he's done in the last 10 years though...

Well 50 and Bush have something in common, they're both losing popularity... :kekeke: :paperbag:

I didn't wanna start another 50 Cent topic but this is too funny I couldn't resist, he must be drunk when people interview him! :rofl: :rofl: http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.ns...0gangsta%20bush 50 CENT PRAISES 'GANGSTA' BUSH 50 CENT has made a surprise move by stepping forward to heap praise on beleaguered US President GEORGE W BUSH. While Bush is facing growing criticism from American citizens and celebrities, including rapper KANYE WEST, former crack dealer 50 Cent has expressed great admiration for the Republican leader. He says, "(The president) is incredible... A gangsta. I wanna meet George Bush, just shake his hand and tell him how much of me I see in him." The IN DA CLUB rapper, who was shot nine times on the streets of New York City before finding fame, adds that if it wasn't for his felony conviction preventing him from voting, he'd have exercised his right in favour of Bush.

Yeah Will's gonna have to take the winter off from shootin' films to have this tour but who knows if that'll happen.