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What up y'all I figure I'd post this since there are a lot of Europe peeps on this board and some might be PE fans so check out the schedule for their brief Europe tour this week promoting their new album "New Whirl Odor" I found just reading Chuck D's terrordome on Public Enemy.com: http://www.publicenemy.com/index.php?page=page3 "All this and rolling into PE 54th tour To Europe, starting in PARIS ending in LONDON November 16th ...my obstacle people is to block everything out for a couple days and memorize A few new songs off NWO... THurs 10.11.05 Elysee Montmartre, Paris, France. Fri 11.11.05 Rockefeller, Oslo, Norway. Sat 12.11.05 DAY OFF (Travel day) Sun 13.11.05 Mondo, Stockholm, Sweden. Mon 14.11.05 013, Tilburg, The Netherlands. Tue 15.11.05 The Village, Dublin, Ireland. Wed 16.11.05 The Forum, London, UK." He also posted the release dates for "New Whirl Odor" to drop worldwide, it already dropped here in this US on November 1st, it's a dope album y'all should check it out: "The following release dates for PE in Europe alone are; Italy : november 14th Spain : november 21st Portugal : november 14th Switzerland : november 7th Germany : November 4th Austria : November 4th Poland : November 7th Benelux : November 1st Greece : November 21st Australia / Nea Zealand : November 14th Japan / SE Asia : December 5th Followed by massive press that clears roads for independent movement.."

I hope Will does another freestyle!

Why do you disagree with me? It's true though that the gangsta rappers rapping about how much guns they bust are outselling the conscious rappers that make thought provoking rhymes but gangsta rappers come and go with the fame while conscious rappers always have some audience there for them, anybody can be a gangsta if they want to since that's not hard to do but not everybody could be intelligent if they don't work torwards that. If music celebrating explicit sex, drug use, and gun violence that's unhealthy is so popular it's not rocket science to tell you that there's more idiotic people out there than intelligent people, that's why 50 Cent dumbs down so much and sells millions, if people were really smart they'd stop listening to the gimmick raps. This goes back to what KRS said a few months ago in that speech on BBC.com, he talks about how easy it is to chill on the block all day being a drug addict and drunk but it takes heart to be a man and gain knowledge, that's the message that rappers like 50 Cent don't display, the way he acts it makes it look like you could only get to the top by disrespecting other people but that's not the only way! : "I'm tellin' you the truth, I studied in the library, the public library system, I couldn't understand it man, some people say “I can't stand America, they're holding me back, America's racist!” when they're walking down the street they see a Mcdonald's, a hospital, a liquor store, and a public library, so I'm going to the library and you're going to the liquor store. How is America evil? Or in this case, how is England evil? If you have a choice I'm going to public school, “Wait I thought you said you don't go to school?” well my public school is the public library by picking up the books I wanna read and studying what I wanna know when I wanna know it. Doors are opened all day, 8 hours a day, free books to take with you, these cats, I mean I'm in the same hood as everybody else! Somehow I'm walking to the library, others are walking to the liquor store, now I like to drink too, I ain't gonna front but what's more important my drink or my purpose? That's what you gotta asking yourself. “well kids stay off drugs” now BBC is broadcasting “well krs-one told kids to stay off drugs”, ha ha ha, well seriously that's the truth, what's more important getting high or your purpose? The choice is yours you could go either way with no judgement. Don't be mad though if you turn 40 and you don't know who you are but you're high as a motherf----r, ha ha ha, don't get mad man"

You sure it ain't a re-run?

Yeah some people really know how to hate but in reality though their punchlines are better than anything I've heard from Bow Wow, he should pay them to be his ghostwriters! :gettinjiggywitit: :rofl: There should be a rule where nobody under 18 years old should be signed to a record deal 'cause they all suck, FP and LL were the exception though sorta like how most young basketball players can't ball except for Lebron and Kobe. "And Parents Just Don't Understand>>>>>>>>. Bow Wow taking another breath in his meaningless life" "Bowwow has no right to talk. He was still a stain in his daddy's underpants when Will was Fresh Prince." :word: I posted it over on the Public Enemy board and there's more positive feedback for Will: http://www.publicenemy.com/pb/viewtopic.php?t=21867 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Idiot doesn't know his hip hop history. No-one should underestimate the importance of the Fresh Prince's contribution to making hip hop a mainstream entity. There may not have been a Kanye West without a Will Smith." "What's more, Bow wow wasn't writing those songs before. A couple of years ago, his mom's boyfriend was ghostwriting 4 him. Bow wow's getting a little 2 big 4 his britches"

It was surprising that the Lakers were able to stay so close even with Kobe struggling like that, Philly played him tough.

That's what's wrong with society they think it's sexy when people carry guns hanging on the streetcorner all day and you're wack if you got a backpack and go to the library or school to learn all day, intelligent people do respect Mos Def and not 50, 50 knows that too, knowledge is power that's why Mos Def'll outlast 50 in the game 'cause he's a smart brother, only school dropouts that're happy being on welfare all their life respect 50 'cause he's as ignorant as they are.

If some of you actually care so much about whether Bow Wow said it or not buy the new issue of XXL, I personally don't really give a damn, this guy probably wants to be "50 Cent Jr." and diss other rappers while making songs for 14-year old girls, Will needs to shut all of these immitators down so they could lose all their fame, 5 years from now they'll be begging Will for a role in his films and a guest appearance on his albums to ressurect their dead careers. :word:

Yeah it's dope how people're backing up Will there, these quotes explain it all right here, the whole rap industry could ether Bow Wow, every rapper except 50 Cent, Mase, Mobb Deep and the G Unit groupies is more "real" than him he should just go there with all those wack rappers, his rhymes are garbage that he doesn't even write, I think everyone on this board could beat him in a battle: "Hmmm lets see Will Smith is a big time movie star worth over $100 million and bow wow is a rapper whose probably made $5,000 in his career. Poor Will" "Yep, he's hardcore, thats why he collabed with Ciara and Omarian. He no bubble gum rapper, nope." "Call me when Bow Wow write a better verse then Will Smith. This cat is so gassed rite now it's crazy. He really think he's hard and I hope that thought don't get him shot in his face somewhere acting like he's real or been thru something other than dancin wit Jermaine." "bow wow is full of s***" "The same person who has J.D. writing his rhymes. He need a tall glass of bleach on the rocks for saying that." 'Someone is washing his brain and making him do this… Or its another poor effort to come out of that “lil bow wow” image and trying to pretend to be "hard" or "grown"… I really don’t know what image they are trying to give him or he is trying to take on… but it isn't working. He will never be played in my whip! But to give Bow Wow the benefit of a doubt – maybe he is trying to say he and the folks he mentioned are the only ones selling and putting up big numbers Which is very true but very fckn sad!!!" :word: :rofl: :bowdown:

It was Bow Wow who had to nerve to call Will a bubblegum rapper when he watered down this classic! :paperbag: I think it was for the soundtrack of his movie "Like Movie" where he was playing on an NBA team I think so maybe that's why he brags about scoring on the NBA stars 'cause he did in the movie but still it was wack, is it just me or does every platinum rapper coming out now does a movie? Back in a days you only had a few like Will, LL, and Ice Cube but now it's gotten out of hand and most of them need to try working on their day job first, lol.

He didn't mention his ghostwriter Jermaine Dupri either, he always kisses JD's butt in all of his interviews so this might not be authentic but it doesn't matter if he said it anyway, maybe if he was putting out anything that appeals to adults then maybe I'll take his opinion serious, he wasn't born when JJFP were first on the scene anyway.

I was just watching the Lakers-Sixers game on ESPN and they were playing "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It" in the stadium during a timeout. :yeah:

Bow Wow follows everybody when it's time to rap, he even admits that he has Jermaine Dupri and TI write most of his rhymes for him, he ain't an mc, bottomline, he's just another pop rap gimmick that only has lil' girls think he's the greatest but when they get older they'll think that he's wack and his career'll be over, lol. I mean this kid makes Eminem sound like KRS-ONE and y'all know how much I don't like Eminem.

Yeah this ain't really surprising, most of the youth today have no love for the ol' school artists that paved the way for them. I was thinking that Bow Wow had some potential to be a better mc since he said he looks up to Will but now that he says he looks up to 50 Cent I lost whatever lil' respect I had for him, he hasn't made an album better than "Born To Reign" let alone "Lost and Found" and he never will, he said that Will ain't real but hey if it wasn't for Will Bow Wow and any of these other punk asses that diss Will wouldn't have any role in films like they do now. I think he's only made a handful of good songs anyway at this point. He's probably trying to join the G Unit bandwagon and start making gangsta rap albums, that wouldn't surprise me, btw I remember 50 Cent dissin' Bow Wow in "Wanksta" sayin' that "he got guns bigger than Bow Wow".

Bow Wow thinks 50's real but Will ain't? :sick: I don't think many people over 18 take Bow Wow seriously as a rapper anyway though. :stickpoke:

Looks like Atlantic is giving Little Brother no promotion 'cause it sold less than 50,000 albums, it's unfortunate that they're trying to get some exposure but they just ain't getting it, I think that their album is probably the best album that came out since "Lost and Found", everyone here should pick that up.

Sure this "Lost and Found" album by Will might've not done as well as it should've but considering how badly his ol' school peers Public Enemy and Rev. Run are doing with their new albums sales wise not even selling 5,000 albums in the first week that makes it even it more amazing that Will was able to go gold 'cause they were selling as much as JJFP was back in the day and now it seems like not many pay attention to them anymore, it could easily been that way with Will too with this album.

Hey those are my favorite lines on that track too, lyricism at its best right there. :word:

I think it's people in our young generation altogether that don't know about history period, not just young rappers coming out.

Well most club songs ain't really appropriate for all ages to listen to unless it's done by people like JJFP, MC Hammer, and Run-Dmc 'cause most of them club songs by today's mcs are only about blunts, violence, and hoes which isn't suitable for young audiences even though it's all over TV and radio where mostly kids watch and that needs to be straightened out. There's quite a difference in content between 50 Cent's "In Da Club" and Will's "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It" since 50's talkin' about how Dre's "rollin' that weed up" and Will ain't ever talkin' about that when he says he only bites cigars but don't light 'em.

:word: Real talk!

I'm feelin' this! :2thumbs:

Is there an article of this or do you know him personally? :stickpoke: This gets me upset that most celebrities show only the negative side of themselves and they hide when they give to charity or do something of a positive nature, that's something they shouldn't be afraid to show 'cause that's what'd be a positive influence instead of making people think that they're negative.

I was reading Entertainment Weekly today and it mentions that LL Cool J's new album called "My Favorite Flavor" is gonna drop in February '06 with production from Trackmasters and Scott Storch, is gonna feature Mary J. Blidge, Ginuwine, and 112.

http://www.thebookstandard.com//bookstanda...ggieexcerpt.pdf