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I figure that it'd be fitting to start a fresh topic with the season coming, post anything NBA related here! :pony:

Heat look great on paper but I think there are plenty of teams out there that could give them a shock this year, wait and see...

Actions speak louder than words, people like JJFP, LL, Salt-N-Pepa back up what they say by not just being positive influence through music but through real life too, Eminem might spit positive lyrics from time to time but refusing to be a part of Live 8 proves he's not a positive influence in real life, 50 Cent turned down attending it to shoot his movie too I think. :damnlorettas:

After awhile all of Van Gundy's assistant coaches are gonna be ex-Knicks, 1st Ewing, now Charlie Ward, who's next Allan Houston? lol btw, I missed the Michael Jordan interview on 60 minutes so I found the text of it, here it is for those who missed it like me: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/19/...ain955628.shtml

Guy "I Wanna Get With You"

Yeah this is something you'd expect from him, he got no heart. :damnlorettas:

Looks like Jigga's gonna be like Will and just "Wave 'Em Off" by ignoring 50 'cause he's irrelevant, he ain't worth the time to diss, there's more important matters that need to be done, nuff respect for Jigga for being the bigger man!

I found the lyrics to that song you was talking about fuq, it's a lot more effective than 50's "What If", Fredro don't really seem to be dissing anybody in there either: (*puffin in background*) Yo what up son? Yea happy new years man,you too Yea but its crazy cold out here right about now man Yea I'm jus chillin in the coupe, k'nawm sayin? Windows up, drivin through the city, smokin an L for dolo You know how we do This **** I be thinkin about is crazy son What if Notorious was here? What if he was around? would all these niggas claim to be king? Who would wear the crown? Yo, what if 'Pac was still thuggin? What if he was alive? Would all these niggas still be screamin out "ride or die"! What if Milli Vanilli's record never skipped on stage? They'd be the illest con niggas in the game today Yo, what if Jordan never had Scottie? What if Sammie never ratted Gotti? What if New York without Giuliani? What if Mike Tyson fought Ali in his prime? What if Will Smith got gangsta, and start cursin rhymes? What if Erick never met Parrish? think they'd be makin dollas? What if they neva made candy paint for Impalas? my down south niggas'll wil' out,word up my west coast niggas'll wil' out,word up What if computers shut down for the Y2K? What if N.W.A never had Dre? What if Eminem was black? Would he have sold five mill'? or would he be 1 out of 5 million rappers with no deal? What if you had to pay for air? a dollar a breath half the hood would ****in pass out and choke to death What if hip hop was banned in 52 states? they'd give you 5 years a piece for wreckin cd's and tapes What if the world stopped? no more time,**** a watch What if there's no laws no jails,and no more cops? **** is crazy **** I be thinkin about yo, it's just questions that I ask myself when I analyze the world when I'm by myself I think some bugged out **** when I'm by myself drinkin weed smokin hennessee all by myself questions,that I ask myself when I analyze the world when I'm by myself I think some bugged out **** when I'm by myself drinkin weed smokin hennessee all by myself its questions...that I ask myself **** is craaazy,**** I b thinkin about,thinkin about Yo, what if Snoop was the President? **** we'd all be high Blowin chronic in the White House, smoke in the sky What if they neva made the Coupe 5, what would I drive? Probably a 430 drop, ruthless, wit buggy eyes What if Red and Meth freestyled and battled on stage? What if Daz had bald head and Onyx had braids? What if history was changed? Slavery reversed Would black ladies see white boys and clench they purse? What if Diallo Dege is shot, 41 times? What if the kids was popular that went to Columbine? What if Ewing would have dunked it, instead of fading away? The Knicks woulda been the champs, he wouldnta got traded away Yo what if +Run+ never met +D+ would I'a been an +MC+? What if its c-lo? You in my rollin 1,2,3 What if the world stop? No more time, **** a watch What if there's no laws, no jails, and no more cops? **** is crazy **** I be thinkin about yo, it's just questions that I ask myself when I analyze the world when I'm by myself I think some bugged out **** when I'm by myself drinkin weed smokin hennessee all by myself questions,that I ask myself when I analyze the world when I'm by myself I think some bugged out **** when I'm by myself drinkin weed smokin hennessee all by myself its questions...that I ask myself **** is crazy,thinkin about lookin out the window all I see is rain feelin the pain gunshots out my window ugh,ugh,ugh anotha nigga gets slayed wit a mots to big drinkin this weed smokin this Hennesey aint anotha like,me craazy **** all yall **** the world **** america

Well 50's just jealous of everybody that he referrenced there 'cause he knows that he can't be half as good as any of them.

I think Damien got it right there as far as who he dissed and who he gave props too, well even giving Will props ain't gonna make me wanna go see his movie, I actually hope he'd diss Will so Will could finish 50 off, lol.

He basically says in the beginning of the song that Puffy's a wimp since he's on some pretty boy s*** and people'd think he's crazy if he wore suits like Jay-Z, like he's too hardcore to wear a suit, that sounds like he's dissin' them if I'm not mistaken.

I see he's biting The Game's style in referencing all those rappers, it actually looks like he disses a few in there but he gives Will props though. :sick:

Yeah well "The Definition" had 2 hit singles in rotation over 5 months so if he released one more single at least it would've been certified platinum in the US last spring, it's kinda amazing that "Lost and Found" would even come close to selling as much as "The Definition" with only one hit single in "Switch" since it came out in February, "Party Starter" has been flopping here in the US, not to mention that black radio has been resistant to playing Will's songs, they always play LL. If Will got a lil' bit of support from black radio when "Switch" was out he would've hit platinum already even if "Party Starter" still flopped, Def Jam rappers always get on black radio though so it makes sense to go there.

Well it took Interscope 2 months to release the video for "Party Starter" after Will shot it in July, if it dropped in late July early August at the latest "Lost and Found" would be past platinum now and "Parter Starter" would be a top 10 hit, Def Jam'd probably released it faster. LL's videos seem to come out pretty rapidly but even he shoulda shot a couple more though and "The Definition" would've made it to double platinum status by now but he did the same thing Will did when he went to go shoot a movie, I guess they ain't really that much concerned about selling as much as we are.

:word: When will people stop buying into gimmicks? :therain:

LL basically did the same numbers with "The Defintion" on Def Jam that Will did with "Lost and Found" on Interscope so it might not make too much of a difference if Will goes there, those are probably the best numbers that he could do at this point and that's still pretty well, it'd be nice to see other ol' school rappers get signed on major labels and do those type of numbers too.

Yeah most artists do release catchy songs as singles, those are the type of songs that entertain people the most, that's why the commercial audience doesn't like "Code Red" and "Lost and Found" that much, I think even "Born To Reign" had more catchy songs on them then those 2 albums combined and if that was promoted better it might've came closer to "Big Willie Style" numbers than those would've with the right promotion.

So did Jay-Z diss anybody last night in Philly? I guess bringin' Nas on stage with him is enough statement that he's going after 50 Cent already though, he's probably waiting for 50 to respond then he'll release something for him, if 50 was smart he'd not diss anybody anymore now. Yeah look how "Lost and Found" almost went platinum with just one hit single, if he had 100 videos out at once like 50 Cent he'd probably sell 10 million again like "Big Willie Style", Interscope didn't really give Will the backing he deserved though obviously, Def Jam promotes their rappers well so I think it'd be a good fit for Will to go there. Columbia's been screwing Nas over for years too, it'll be nice as a Nas fan to see him get the promotion that he deserves, I think he might be able to put out some multiplatinum hits now.

That's good they took that down, maybe that'll encourage less kids to try to sneak in to watch the movie.

Well it was his lowest sellin' JJFP album at least, I could see why "Born To Reign" flopped but "Code Red" is arguably his best work he's ever done, probably the most underrated rap album ever, it's definately one of the greatest rap albums ever recorded, it should've outsold "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" and be the highest selling JJFP album, he was at the height of Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air then with popularity too.

If ol' school rappers KRS-ONE and Rev. Run had the type of promotion for their albums as Jay-Z does they could easily go platinum, people'll know about them if they get exposure simple as that, that's the only reason why 50 Cent sells so much is 'cause he puts out 100 videos at once. LL Cool J gets good promotion on Def Jam and he's always able to still be one of the highest selling rappers out whenever he drops an album so why not bring more on board? They might not sell 3-4 million but I don't see how they couldn't go platinum or close to it at the worst if they get the right backing they deserve. Signing The Roots and Nas is a good step towards that, I guess they gotta bring the '90s mcs back first then they could work on the '80s, lol.

Nas is rumored to sign with Def Jam so maybe there'll be a bigger chance that we might get a Nas/LL collab soon! :rockon:

Well who would've thought that Nas might sign to Def Jam, I never in a million years would've thought that'd happen, anything's possible, if Jay-Z really wants to save hip-hop he'll sign all of them, he should've never dissed Nas in the first place, it's about time that hip-hop powers join forces instead of beefing. I'm more concerned about great mcs collabing and making great songs than I am about how many are gonna diss 50 Cent, if a lot of dope songs came out 50 Cent'll lose his popularity fast, all the great mcs need to be on the top of the charts bringing something to the airwaves, it's disgusting how Rev. Run's album doesn't even sell 5,000 copies the 1st week, I wanna see 50 Cent fall down to that for a change and Rev. Run go platinum.

Jay-Z should sign Nas, KRS-ONE, Rakim, Aceyalone, and Public Enemy to Def Jam right now to bring the real lyricists to the top of the charts and bury these commercial gimmick rappers to the bottom like they should be, 2006 would be the greatest year ever if all those albums dropped with LL's album that's set to come out on Def Jam already, Jay-Z gotta get Slick Rick to make another album too, all the rulers in rap getting the recognition they deserve in the public would be incredible! btw. Will should sign to Def Jam too 'cause Interscope's 'bout to get buried.

If talent sold "Code Red", "Willenium", "Lost and Found", and "He's The DJ, I'm The Rapper" would be at the 10 million mark in sales right now with "Big Willie Style" and Will'd be ranked the greatest rapper ever by the media like he should be, it's disgusting that "Code Red"'s his lowest selling album. :shakehead: