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Will's verse was the best verse on the song, most Slick Rick's verse was from "Children's Story" and he was singing from "La Di-Da Di" which is classic too, he samples himself quite a bit too on his songs but people sample him a lot too so it ain't like he gases himself up, lol. but Will's verse was original.

:word: Biz Markie is underrated!

"Lost and Found" didn't have massive success but to say it flopped is foolish, only a handful of albums went at least gold this year and he's nominated for an AMA, it wasn't a flop!

I think there's a handful that you could say that could be the best mc ever and LL's one of them to say the least!

http://www.publicenemy.com/index.php?page=page2&item=117 That's the link to the article, they have quite a few interesting articles on that Public Enemy site, there's an article about the new Public Enemy album called "New Whirl Odor" that hit Best Buy stores last week and is gonna be on sale at other retail stores on Nov. 1st, and there's a link their new video "Bring That Beat Back" on there too, I'm gonna check for that! :rockon:

I think all the positive rappers need to come together and support each other, that'd be the best way to get hip-hop back in the right direction, btw I think LL's fans like me would say that LL's just as famous for his content as he is for his female oriented tracks and hardcore delivery, you can't do 11 albums without being known for content, he could do a song about anything, arguably the most lyrical gifted mc ever, that's just like the people who say Will only does club songs.

I still need to find one myself if somebody finds a copy of it somewhere pm me!

So what does everybody think about it? I'm surprised that Chuck D would say that Kanye West's career is in jeopordy from what he said when he's selling 1.5 million right now, I thought that what he said about Bush would've myself after he first said it but actually it appeared that his sales got higher probably since a lot of people actually agree with him since Bush's approval rating is down, too bad not too many people pay attention to what Chuck D says though.

Yeah that LL/Kool Moe Dee battle was classic, 2 legends battlin' it out on the mic, it gets no better than that, they both did their thing, mcs today should look at that battle as the blueprint to how battles should be, "Jack The Ripper", "Mama Said Knock You Out", "Let's Go", and "How You Like Me Now?" are the greatest battle songs in my opinion.

Fans need to wake up as much as the rappers do, if they stopped buying it maybe there'll be a change, the way it appears only a few people like us actually care about the negative way hip-hop is potrayed while millions that buy it don't really care and some that used to like hip-hop don't even pay attention to it anymore, parents shouldn't let their kids listen to it but they do, it ain't only the rappers' fault. :word: I want Will to release "Lost and Found" as the next single now and put LL and Chuck D in the video!

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Well I think the reason why the can say they look up 2 LL and make violent music at the same time is cus well they don't feel that they are part of the problem. 50 and Em probably are thinking that this comment ain't directed at him but 2 their enemies. Cus Em and 50 think all they are doing is speaking the truth as the way they see it. 50 cent sees himself as original gangsta rapper. That's a good point there, 50 Cent came out with a song called "Wanksta" making fun of people that act like gangstas when they ain't really ones but in reality he's a "wanksta" himself, he ain't really as tough as he says he is and he needs to stop talking like that to mislead people that're stupid enough to buy into it.

Rap star: Resist dumbing-down movement By Corey G. Johnson The Daily Reflector Thursday, October 06, 2005 Chuck D, leader of the award-winning rap group Public Enemy, told ECU students Wednesday to resist a dumbing-down movement taking place in American culture. "Minds are the real estate of the new millennium," Chuck D said to the diverse crowd of nearly 250 at Wright Auditorium. "The worst thing that can happen is to have someone thinking for you." Sponsored by the Ledonia Wright Cultural Center and the ECU Student Union Cultural Awareness Committee, the speech was organized largely in response to what students said they wanted to hear, Lathan Turner, assistant vice chancellor for student life, said. "Even though some consider him controversial, many see him as insightful, informative and in most cases, motivational," Turner said. "Chuck D's name kept showing up in our focus groups in the top ten list of desired speakers." Speaking from the theme, "Race, Rap, Reality and Technology," Public Enemy's lead lyricist tackled a plethora of topics from the Hurricane Katrina disaster to what he called the "virtual pedophilia" of sexually-suggestive programming being targeted to youth. He called Viacom-owned MTV and BET – empty TV and the Booty and Thug network. "BET markets their award show as playing during prime time. Prime time usually means you're watching with your family and kids," he said. "Then the next thing you know, Destiny's Child is up onstage doing a lap dance. Did the decision to go from being a 'Survivor' to doing lap dances take place in some boardroom." Chuck D also accused corporate powers of "lobotomizing" black public figures in music and television. As a result, he said rap music in 2005 doesn't feel the same to him. "A lot of today's artists' number one obligation is to their contract." he said. "They are going to do what their masters say." He applauded rapper Kanye West's courage for publicly voicing criticism during the reason Hurricane Katrina disaster but warned that West might lose his mainstream status in the backlash. West previously suggested the slow federal response to rescue New Orleans citizens was a result of "George Bush not caring about black people." "He's got to know that he will no longer be considered in Britney Spears' land," he said. He also suggested the controversy surrounding West's remarks is proof of how far consciousness has devolved. "You shouldn't be surprised that an artist has something to say instead of BS," Chuck D said. "Kanye West did what a 28-year-old grown, voting man should do. But how is what he is saying considered crazy when you got songs like Face Down, (Behind) Up playing at 1:30 everyday?" Chuck D also mocked students who try to bring street thuggism into the university. "There are two cottage industries that result from thuggism – prison and dead. And both of them are making a lot of money," he said. "There is no such thing as a collegiate thug, so stop fronting." He challenged the students to take advantage of their educational opportunities in order to develop their own mind. "Don't be indecisive. Leave here with your own mind," he said. "You can't afford not to." Yelitza Ortiz, 18, of Fayetteville, said she was first introduced to Chuck D and Public Enemy four years with the song "Fight the Power." She said Wednesday's speech was an eye-opener. "I went into the speech not knowing what to expect, but there were things he said about the pop culture that I would have never thought of before," Ortiz said. "It really made me think." Corey G. Johnson can be reached at cjohnson@coxnc.com or 329-9565.

I think LL should personally say who he feels should be the ones that need to balance out their lyrics then maybe they'll pay attention to him more or he'll finish their careers, he got the power to do it! :stickpoke:

There was a rumor that FP and Michael Jackson did another track together that didn't make the album besides "Can U Feel Me" that sampled Michael Jackson, how could u choose the song with Lil' Kim over Michael Jackson? That musta been Columbia's bright idea just like using the Trackmasters on the album, they're commercial producing style worked on "Big Willie Style" but "Willenium" is an ol' school hip-hop album and they don't have that ol' school sound. "Uhhh" should've been a single, Kel Spencer's album might've came out and went platinum if that single came out...

Great lyrics like usual, I had problems trying to download the audio though...

Yeah I don't understand how Em and 50 say they look up to LL and yet they make their music so violent? :sick:

It's nice to hear that Will's doing something, as we get closer to that time maybe we'll get an idea what he'll be doing then, I hope "Tell Me Why" comes out before that "Switch" died months ago already so we already know it's not that, lol, "Party Starter" is dead already before it got started, and I personally think it's too late to promote "Lost and Found" but if he wants to perform "I Wish I Made That", "Lost and Found", "Tell Me Why" or "Mr. Nice Guy" on there it's better late than never, I'd prefer that he's gonna announce he's gonna go on tour or perform a new track but as long as he's out there doing something musically I'm happy.

Great verse! :rockon:

Well tracks 2-5 were just average and don't hold weight to the stength to the rest of the album, the songs with Common, Wyclef, and Michael Jackson would've made "Willenium" the greatest rap album ever if they replaced those, I'd loved to see JJFP do a video with Michael Jackson!

http://www.nobodysmiling.com/hiphop/news/85175.php LL Cool J Says Lyrics Needs Balance by: Michael Ivey Sun, October 2nd, 2005 VH1’s recent “Hip Hop Honors” lifetime achievement award recipient, LL Cool J, feels there are too many gangsters in rap. According to one of the longest tenured professionals in music today (twenty plus years) the only way hip hop can lose it’s violent image is if emcees stop coming out as shooters and crack dealers. LL Cool J is definitely encouraged by the lucrative business the music generates, saying “I think it’s afforded a lot of people great lifestyles.” However, his knowledge of the social impact rap lyrics have on youth and casual listeners prompted a call for more positive messages. He says, “so many people who are not really used to rap or don’t know anything about it think that that’s all there is.” As an entertainer known more for his female oriented songs and hard core delivery, not content, LL feels the culture as a whole would benefit from more balance.

Well Queen Latifah's top producer Kay Gee produced "Da Butta" so it's definately a possibility that FP was trying to get Queen Latifah or maybe even Naughty By Nature on the track since he was still producing for them still at that time, I remember buying Naughty By Nature's new album around that time too, good times...

I actually like that 1st verse on "Freakin' It", classic FP punchlines, I think maybe the lines "Mr. Clean but the fact remains/I got girls don't speakin' english screamin' my name/for all y'all talkin' about who you're gonna put in a verse/do me a favor write one verse without a curse" lead to Eminem dissin' FP on "The Real Slim Shady", I normally play the 1st verse of that and then skip to track 6 myself, I don't understand what'd make FP put Lil' Kim on "Da Butta"? I guess Queen Latifah wasn't available, lol. I think if FP rushed to release to 'I"m Comin'" around "The Real Slim Shady" it'd helped "Willenium" sell a lot more than what it did and would've slowed Eminem down if they actually played it that is, lol, FP needs to release "Mr. Nice Guy" or "Lost and Found" as singles to answer his critics back now!

I'd say this rhyme by KRS-ONE's "Come To Da Party" is also relevant to these times more than ever: "Negative rap, positive rap, forget that black it's a trap to set us back, concentrate on various rap talents Presently the rap radio format is unbalanced You either got the player, or the concious rhyme sayer all day, on your radio, not with a different flavor Someone has to DIE before you hear a concious record People don't like gangsta rap, but concious rap, they don't respect it The truth is people are afraid of black youth Our expressions, our lessons and gold teeth, so.."

Great lyrics all the way through, I like this part the best: "I hate the way that fake gangsta's rule the street That's why i make music that can make ya move ya feet Even if your sitting, See that is exactly my mission No tommorow can only leave hopeless fools in competition But look at the pimps glisten..."