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LL Cool J is the face of Def Jam and hip-hop, well over 20 million sold with a hell lot of street cred unlike most high selling rappers that sold out 'cause he's released 11 quality albums not dumbing down, he's always put skills 1st which every mc should do, there should be no reason to not re-release his albums, Nas and Biggie are cool but LL's the "G.O.A.T.", no hip-hop album should be re-released if his don't get re-released, I'm gonna try to get that European version of "The G.O.A.T.", that's one of my favorite albums ever so that's an exuse in itself to get another copy, lol, I actually played it more than any of his others including his most popular "Mama Said Knock You Out", "Mr. Smith", and "Radio" albums, that's my personal favorite maybe 'cause it's the 1st LL album I bought on release date(I've been listening to LL since '96 but I didn't get his albums when they came out then like I do now) so it has sentimental feeling to it just like "Big Willie Style" that I got mad scratches on, I think that it's an underappreciated classic that solidified LL's street credability at "G.O.A.T." status no doubt, I actually been bumping "10" lately and I realised I underestimated that album 'cause it's quite solid and that's my least favorite one from him, probably since I was doing the same thing that other cats were doing in comparing it to his other classics, it stands well on its own, there ain't an LL album that I bought I don't like, they should just re-release them all but they're all easier to get unlike some of JJFP albums that're hard to find so JJFP albums should be re-released out 1st before anyone else.

I don't understand why Def Jam hasn't re-released LL's albums yet, they need to be all re-released, it doesn't make sense that "Illmatic" and "Ready To Die" got re-released before "Mama Said Knock You Out", "All World" should be re-released with another disc featuring his hits from 1996-2005 and maybe throw a couple of unreleased tracks on there too, I'd imagine he'd have a lot of them since he's been in the game for 20 years. btw, is there a version of "The G.O.A.T." album with "Shut 'Em Down" on it? I would love to get that version 'cause that's a great song on "Any Given Sunday" soundtrack. Did they add more to "Behind The Music" 'cause I think it aired last year if I'm not mistaken but I need to check for that again so I could record it, I got a tape ready for tonight's show no doubt, I wonder if they'll do one for Big Daddy Kane and Grandmaster Flash/Furious Five, that'd be vintage material there, I know they did one for Salt-N-Pepa.

Yeah The Roots were starting to hit rock bottom by being overcreative on their last 2 albums, their fanbase lost interest in them but I think they said in the article that the next album is supposed to be the rawest album since "Illadelph Halflife" and "Phrenology", I don't know why they'd consider comparing "Illadelph Halflife" to "Phrenology", it ain't even close that'd like if Will compared "Code Red" to "Born To Reign"! :hmm:

JJFP were ranked at #30, Will should be there at that awards performing that LL song instead of Nelly, who was actually ranked one spot ahead of JJFP at #29 btw, which is just as ridiculous as having Lil' Kim one spot ahead of the lyrical genious Big Daddy Kane #34-35, Redman and Kool G Rap should be on the list instead of Nelly and Lil' Kim with JJFP and Big Daddy Kane in the top 10 if I made this list, I don't quite remember Slick Rick made the list but if he didn't then I would have to take Eminem off the list too, lol. And has anybody heard of VH1 soul, I heard they had an ol' school hip-hop marathon hosted by Chuck D over the weekend, I wonder how I could get that channel?!

JJFP need to do a track with The Roots one day, I know Jazzy produced a track on their "Things Fall Apart" album but I'd love to hear FP and Black Thought rippin' the mic together, that'd be groundbreaking if they had an all Philly tour as well.

I thought the Fugees' new single is called "Be Easy", lol, it's kinda funny that they're releasing their album in December too just like Ghostface, that means there's gonna be some dope hip-hop dropping for Christmas this year! :thumbsup:

Wow with all this voting here it should hit #1 easily, nuff props! I'm gonna install it later! :1-say-yes:

You should upload it fan4ever, I'd like to hear it! :1-say-yes: Anyways as long as it's another quality album from the Fugees that could impact the game I'll be happy, I don't like to always compare artists' albums with other ones they do, I try to judge that album for what it is not if it sounds exactly like their previous ones, it bugs me out though that some people want the same things all the time and call it wack if it don't sound like their previous classic, even though it's really still quality while they stick with the predictable artists that do the same thing all the time.

I like what DMC said about Will in that top 50 countdown: "Nice guys do finish 1st!" :yeah:

Happy Birthday to you FP, the greatest entertainer of our generation, much respect! :1-say-yes:

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I'm gonna put my money on it that "Party Starter"'ll make it on VH1's top 20 list before it makes it on TRL or 106 & Park, they played "Switch" more than MTV and BET did, they got a lot of love for Will so I doubt they wouldn't honor him and Jeff, if they don't honor JJFP, they sure won't honor Heavy D, De La Soul, or Biz Markie, JJFP are the kings of feel good hip-hop especially since they outlasted most of them, only De La Soul is still active, you can compare JJFP to today's artists 'cause they're still making albums while if you compare Heavy D to Jay-Z it wouldn't be fair since they're different eras but you could compare JJFP to Jay-Z if you want, wait Jay-Z' retired now so it's not fair either. :stickpoke:

"The Score" is a hard album for them to top since it's an all-time hip-hop album, I think their 1st one "Blunted On Reality" was mad slept on, it's a classic too, but if they could put out an album close to the level of those 2 I'll be happy, I doubt they'll be that popular as they were 9 years ago no matter how great it is, especially since Wyclef's solo albums have been floppin' since "The Carnival" and Lauryn hasn't dropped any new material in over 6 years, "Masquerade" in my opinion was one of the top albums of 2002 that showcased Wyclef as one of the top lyricists in the game, now that's who I'd call one of the greatest mcs/producers of all-time unlike a certain few that've been overhyped, Columbia dropped him after that one flopped with their lame promotion like usual, but it'd be sweet if the Fugees were popular again 'cause the commercial rap scene is at an all-time low.

I'd rather see Diddy do "Summertime" than Nick Cannon even though I think he sucks too, not many people respect Nick Cannon as an mc, he ain't in the same class as LL and JJFP to check a mic for them 'cause he's an unproven mc, maybe if we're talkin' about him doing a movie with them then that's cool, he got a lot of acting skills, but I wouldn't even want LL to perform it since nobody really deserves to perform "Summertime" except JJFP, I thought that was wack how they had Fat Joe perform "South Bronx" instead of KRS, they should've just had him introduce KRS to the stage, KRS is one of the greatest performers ever that's no diss to Fat Joe, he's dope too but he could never get to that level they might be close friends but that doesn't mean that Fat Joe's on the same level as KRS it's the same situation with FP and Nick Cannon, Nick's cool but he ain't FP, nobody should perform his songs but him, and I think it's even more wack that Nelly and Ciara are gonna perform "Doin' It" 'cause they got lil' talent. I think it'd be funny if Snoop did "Summertime" and JJFP did "Gin and Juice" if they get honored the same year. EDIT: I'm watching this top 50 countdown on VH1 that they originally aired 2 years ago and it's like a mixed bag, half of the rappers they mention don't deserved to be mentioned, what were they thinkin' when they ranked Master P ahead of the Roots, Lil' Kim ahead of Big Daddy Kane, Nelly ahead JJFP, Eminem ahead of LL, and put Diddy in the top 10 with Kurtis Blow at only 40, MC Lyte at only 42, Heavy D at only 45, Sugar Hill Gang at only 50? KRS at 21 is disgusting too, with his 13 album resume he has every right to be cocky if he wants 'cause we see Kanye talking all this s*** over 2 overrated albums but KRS backs up ever word he says, how could you be mad at that? I don't see how people could hate on LL for callin' one of his albums "The G.O.A.T." 'cause he truely is, how many mcs does he have to knock out?! I hope Nelly screws up the performance just so LL gets mad and ends his career right there on stage! The only thing they got right is Run-Dmc at #1 'cause they're the greatest hip-hop group. As less experience that I think Nick Cannon has, he could probably rip some of these rappers they put on there. They try to do the history of hip-hop and they do it wrong, oh well at least they try unlike BET like I said earlier.

This is great news, I'll be checking out for that! :1-say-yes:

I think that there should be a long tribute to JJFP considering how long their careers have been, it's just like LL, there should be a seperate cermony for him 'cause he's in a class all his own since he's the "G.O.A.T." of hip-hop, there's so many hit songs that could be performed and so many different things that they could talk about for him, I don't understand why Nelly and Ciara would do the tribute, considering of all the other dope artists he's worked with in his career, why'd they choose Nelly and Ciara, why couldn't Busta and Boyz II Men do it? I'll be mad if they have Diddy perform "Summertime" when they do it for JJFP! :damnlorettas:

50 Cent's really a coward, the real gangstas move in silence!

:word: Jay-Z made a great move there, now that's a start to help rebuild Def Jam, there ain't nothin' wrong with Rhianna or 112 but Def Jam should be strictly hip-hop, I think that's what Turntable means there.

That's what I was sayin' I checked the top 200 and saw he wasn't there, there's no way to find out the sales of albums that ain't in the top 200? :stickpoke:

Does anybody know how much it sold this week? Tim? Frenetic? Well since y'all might not read this topic I might just post it in the shout box for y'all to try to find how much it sold! Anyways TRL is the only hope for the album to go up, if it doesn't make it on there, basically this will be the final sales for the album, not bad for a 37 year old rapper, well any rapper for that matter, Bow Wow is half his age and he ain't even seeing these numbers.

Thanks! :thumbsup:

Yeah TRL sucks, 50 minutes of bulls****n' and 10 minutes of videos.

The beef that I have with Eminem is that a lot of his fans are kids and he really doesn't make the type of music that they'd be able to learn anything positive from it, he don't have to be squeaky clean but he should at least put songs together that're more respectful than what he has, I'd rather let a kid listen to 2Pac 'cause all of his songs had messages to them even when he cursed a lot, it's just not healthy for kids to be listening to songs about killing their mother and wife but millions of them do, older heads would know that it's just a song but the youngeons could be mislead, Will said something like this before too in an interview: "Why is it so important to keep it clean? To me theirs two issues. Number one rap music like movies is not kept away from children. There's not the ratings system to keep them from certain sections of the store. Rap music, people can act like its not, but rap music is for kids. You know its completely directed at children and impressionable minds and I just think it's dangerous to pump that kind of cavalier misogyny and hatred in young minds. A big part of it is a lot of the artists that are doing it are young too. You know so their people that haven't even really developed their point of view of life and are thrust into a position where their role models and their up on stage and can rile people up to do things and I got kids I don't want em listening to that trash. "

Hurricane Rita Spins Toward Texas Coast By ALICIA A. CALDWELL Associated Press Writer GALVESTON, Texas - Hurricane Rita grew into a monster storm with 175-mph sustained winds as it swirled toward the Gulf Coast, prompting more than 1.3 million residents in Texas and Louisiana to flee in hopes of avoiding a deadly repeat of Katrina. "It's not worth staying here," said Celia Martinez as she and several relatives finished packing up their homes and pets to head to Houston. "Life is more important than things." As Gov. Rick Perry urged residents along the state's entire coast to begin evacuating well in advance of Rita's predicted Saturday landfall, New Orleans braced for the possibility that the storm could swamp the misery-stricken city all over again. Galveston, Corpus Christi and surrounding Nueces County, low-lying parts of Houston, and New Orleans were under mandatory evacuation orders as Category 5 Rita drew energy from balmy gulf waters. Galveston Mayor Lyda Ann Thomas told NBC's "Today" show Thursday that her city is "fairly well emptied, but we're sending our police forces ... with their loudspeakers reminding people that today is the day to leave." In Houston, Mayor Bill White said residents in low-lying areas and in mobile homes should leave immediately. "We're the best prepared city in the country but nothing of this magnitude is welcome," he told ABC's "Good Morning America." "There's not much you can do if you have 150-mph winds." Forecasters said Rita could be the strongest hurricane on record to ever hit Texas. Only three Category 5 hurricanes, the highest on the scale, are known to have hit the U.S. mainland - most recently, Andrew, which smashed South Florida in 1992. Hundreds of buses were dispatched Wednesday to evacuate the poor and move out hospital and nursing home patients, and truckloads of water, ice and ready-made meals, and rescue and medical teams were on standby in an effort to show the lessons learned in Katrina. "We hope and pray that Hurricane Rita will not be a devastating storm, but we got to be ready for the worst," President Bush said in Washington. At 5 a.m. EDT Thursday, Rita was centered about 515 miles east-southeast of Galveston and was moving west near 9 mph. Forecasters predicted it would come ashore along the central Texas coast between Galveston and Corpus Christi. Hurricane-force winds extended up to 70 miles from the center of the storm, and even a slight rightward turn could prove devastating to the fractured levees protecting New Orleans. The U.S. mainland has never been hit by both a Category 4 and a Category 5 in the same season. Katrina at one point became a Category 5 storm, but weakened slightly to a Category 4 just before coming ashore. In the Galveston-Houston-Corpus Christi area, about 1.3 million people were under orders to get out, in addition to 20,000 or more along with the Louisiana coast. Special attention was given to hospitals and nursing homes, three weeks after scores of sick and elderly patients in the New Orleans area drowned in Katrina's floodwaters or died in the stifling heat while waiting to be rescued. Galveston was already a virtual ghost town. The city's lone hospital was evacuated along with residents of a six-story retirement home. The coastal city of 58,000 on an island 8 feet above sea level was nearly wiped off the map in 1900 when an unnamed hurricane killed between 6,000 and 12,000. It remains the nation's worst natural disaster. City Manager Steve LeBlanc said the storm surge could reach 50 feet. Galveston is protected by a seawall that is only 17 feet tall. "Not a good picture for us," LeBlanc said. In Houston, the state's largest city and home to the highest concentration of Katrina refugees, geography makes evacuation particularly tricky. While many hurricane-prone cities are right on the coast, Houston is 60 miles inland, so a coastal suburban area of 2 million people must evacuate through a metropolitan area of 4 million people where the freeways are often clogged under the best of circumstances. By late Wednesday, the blinking taillights of motorists headed north from Houston could be seen from planes landing at Houston's William P. Hobby Airport on the south side of the city. All routes leading north and west were jammed with vehicles. A family of three, two children in wheelchairs, and a tired-looking woman in hospital scrubs sat in a darkened and deserted bus stop just off Interstate 610, waiting for a ride. Galveston's mayor said buses used to take people and their pets off the island were running in short supply Wednesday and warned that stragglers could be left to fend for themselves. Meanwhile, the death toll from Katrina passed the 1,000 mark Wednesday in five Gulf Coast states. The body count in Louisiana alone was put at nearly 800, most found in the receding floodwaters of New Orleans. Crude oil prices rose again on fears that Rita would destroy key oil installations in Texas and the gulf. Hundreds of workers were evacuated from offshore oil rigs. Texas, the heart of U.S. crude production, accounts for 25 percent of the nation's total oil output. Rita is the 17th named storm of the Atlantic hurricane season, making this the fourth-busiest season since record-keeping started in 1851. The record is 21 tropical storms in 1933. The hurricane season is not over until Nov. 30. Jennifer McDonald in Galveston planned to ride Rita out. She and her husband have enough food and water to last 10 days in their wooden house. If it gets really bad, the couple will take to the roof. "If it goes, it goes," the 42-year-old nurse said of the house. "We're completely prepared." ___ Associated Press Writers Deborah Hastings and Juan A. Lozano in Houston, Lynn Brezosky in Corpus Christi and Pam Easton in Galveston contributed to this report. ___ On the Net: National Hurricane Center: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov

It fell out of the top 200 so I have no idea! :shrug: