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:word: Let's not start a fight over it, this is a JJFP board so you can't expect all of us here to like Eminem just like you can't expect all Eminem fans to like JJFP, personally I could never consider Eminem hip-hop, a hip-hop artist doesn't s*** on other family members just for own benefit, he just happened to be a commercial rapper with skills and wit then but now he's just another wack commercial rapper, hip-hop artists always are creative and consistant with skills and subject matter, they don't just make themselves look ignorant just to sell more records, "The goal is to make forever music."

I always thought those songs about killing his mother, shooting dope, and disrespecting other celebrities was wack, I did like a few songs in between from those first 2 commercial releases but I never really considered him my favorite, I liked DMX, Ja Rule, and Big Pun better than him at that time but DMX retired, Ja Rule fell off(not as hard as Em though, he hasn't really annoyed me that much, I just don't like him much now), and Big Pun died, Will and LL were and are still my favorites since they're still out, I thought Em had some skills though even though I didn't agree with his subject matter but he was never the best mc even with those 2 releases that're overrated in my opinion just 'cause a white rapper made average albums they gotta pump it up and make it sound like they're the greatest albums ever, but the last 2 albums have nothin' at all that I like but yet they still sold millions he deserves to flop badly and lose his record deal, there's so many white/black/puerto rican/chinese/other races that could express themselves better than he could and deserve a shot, he's actually gotten even more annoying to me, I just don't see him maturing, you gonna call me an a**hole just 'cause I don't like him? I ain't calling you no names, I'm keepin' this the discussion of Eminem falling off, but if you wanna make it personal like PE said "Welcome To The Terrordome", you don't wanna battle me! :chuks: "Born To Reign" might be Will's worst album but at least he didn't make songs about killing people on there, he wasn't really rhymin' much on there but I'll say the "Born To Reign" verse is better than any verse Em has spit since 2001, I'd say "Willow Is A Player" is a better song for a daughter than "Mockingbird" is too, I could say Em's 1st 2 might be one the same level that one at least but he can't f*** with the other solid 8 albums Will's done, let's see 2 average albums and 2 trash albums equal another sell-out rapper, he ain't no different than Nelly, Ja Rule, and Mase who were average when they came out but suck now. Society's f***d up, if a black rapper talked about killin' his mother nobody would buy his albums and yet when Em does it he sells millions? Dr. Dre fell off too, I actually thought "Aftermath" was his last good album, "2001" was half filler and his production is mediocre now! Hey now what does everybody think about the rest of the article I posted? I didn't want this just to be an Eminem bashing thread, I'm tired of talking about his sellout ass, I'm gonna go bump some Slick Rick now, peace!

Well it's nice to see Jazzy Jeff get some shine in the mainstream and people'll get to see him on the wheels, Will always gets the shine on TV when Jazzy Jeff's in the background, I think it's wack that they honor Biggie on the same show with LL, Big Daddy Kane, Salt-N-Pepa, Ice-T, and Grandmaster Flash/Furious Five, I'm sorry but he's not in that class, he's the most overrated rapper ever, you replace him with JJFP and it would be perfect! It's hard to take anything that the media does seriously but I give VH1 more points to show the history of hip-hop than BET and emptv do!

'Aint a rapper dead or alive f'n wit me Ask the last bitch that tried to come and get me Talk about paper, I can talk about broads I can talk about movies, I can talk about awards F the fantasies, yo I got all four"-LL Cool J-"G.O.A.T. Intro"

They should have that show a lil' more often than just once a year, I hope Slick Rick, Queen Latifah, and Naughty By Nature get honored too, they should honor "Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air" too when they honor JJFP!

I'm not hating on Em just 'cause he's white, I think Beastie Boys are one of the greatest groups ever and they're white, they're original though, that's the point Eminem is unoriginal, he does the same things other rappers on MTV do by puttin' out gimmick songs to sell albums, like Will says in "Lost and Found": "Why should I try to sound like y'all sound?/That's what's wrong with the rap game right now"!, I have the right to diss Eminem if I want to, if he never made it big, the rap game would be much better than what it is today, there are high talented white rappers out there like Aesop Rock that could rip Eminem in a battle easily but they're slept on 'cause they don't make gimmick songs, I don't care what race Em was, I'd still say he sucks, like KRS-ONE says in "Ain't Ready" about sell-outs like Eminem: "These rappers ain't got God in they heart All they want is quick money, and a movie part Let me begin - what, where, why or when What's the use of double platinum if you're livin in sin Hear the truth - how long you think you gonna last rockin the mic, without havin to go back to class? Now you're forced, to listen to the teacher outrap them Yes there's life after platinum" This part from KRS' "Ova Here" could also be used against Em: "I think it's 'bout time we stop these pop rappers F*** these pop rappers, hip hop does matter to me Does it matter to you? My crew If it does, you know what the hell to do Throw your guns in the air, pump it like yeah Let these bitch ass rappers know we in here Go to the shows huh, boo 'em off stage Tell 'em KRS told you they at the end of they days"

That's dope, thanks for sharing that wit us! :thumbsup:

Now you could say 50 Cent is bubblegum, his biggest hit is "Candy Shop"! :lolsign:

I think VH1 got more street cred than BET does, they play Flava Flav's reality show, they put "Switch" in heavy rotation, they honored KRS-ONE, Sugar Hill Gang, and Public Enemy last year and they're honoring Big Daddy Kane and Salt-N-Pepa where BET bans them from even appearing on there, btw Jazzy Jeff is gonna be there I think, what's up with Will not being there? Maybe they're gonna have to wait for a year where he doesn't film to honor him, lol.

Will is a hip-hop artist that just happens to be one of the most popular rappers ever, so you could say he's a rap king, maybe if 50, Luda, and Em cancel each other out in the voting Will might have a chance to win!

Yeah Michael Jackson's the king of pop but his music sure ain't bubblegum, he's just the most popular artist of all time, anything popular is consider pop and well most of it sucks now, that's nice to know that Will's still relevant in the mainstream after all these years.

VH1 gave a lot of props to JJFP last year on the documentary they did on hip-hop, I'm happy to see LL get honored, I think they should honor JJFP before they honor Biggie though!

Yeah Em's the start of the recent demise of hip-hop that's what he's famous for, while on the other hand Public Enemy is one of the few artists that're keepin' it alive like they've always have even if MTV ignores them recently but the streets got their back while the streets ignored Eminem since he sold out, hip-hop is not about MTV it's about the streets and even when hip-hop loses popularity as long as it's in the streets it'll continue on, he ain't s*** without MTV, you take away his sales and awards and you'll see he has no talent but Will's a dope artist whether he's selling 13 million or 130,000, even if Will doesn't top the box office he's clearly a legendary actor too and doesn't need an Oscar to solidify that either, he's the greatest entertainer of this generation, Will played himself in "Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air" but it wasn't like he was rapping in every episode like Em was rapping in half of "8 Mile", what a stretch?! And since Em won an Oscar before Will that proves that the media has no taste for talent, I'll say that song "Lose Yourself" is better than anything on the last 2 Em albums combined but it didn't deserve an Oscar! There was a lot of dope rap soundtrack songs that're better than "Lose Yourself" that deserved to win Oscars, Will has done a lot of great movies too that had nothing to do with rapping that deserved Oscars 'cause he's a great actor and he was nominated against Denzel and Russel Crowe so I think that's worth more merit than Eminem winning an Oscar for a song that got voted on TRL! I'll also say that PE's last 2 albums are better than Em's whole catalog with another dope album coming out on October 4th, Chuck D and Flava Flav could battle 50 and Em today and beat 'em, none of Em's albums come close to the powerful "Fear Of A Black Planet" and "It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back", f*** MTV and Eminem, in the words of PE "Don't Believe The Hype"! :stickpoke:

Well I ain't watchin' TRL for a 30-second clip but I'll vote for it still! :stickpoke:

They put Luda and Memp. Bleek on there? They really know how to ruin his legacy! :therain: btw I read that revie these ain't even 2Pac's poems, it's more like peeps just throwin' their own stuff on there and try making money off of 2Pac's name, I ain't buying it, I'll buy some of the Pac albums that I don't have yet instead.

It's a popularity contest, Em sold 5 million albums, I'm actually surprised that they would consider nominating Will 'cause the album ain't even platinum, it must be a slow year in music altogether, usually you have to sell millions to be nominated in a pop category, I figure they'd nominate Kanye instead 'cause he's selling more so even if Will doesn't win, at least he beat out Kanye already, he'll probably complain about not being nominated enough again, lol, I'm only gonna watch the show if he's there, if he ain't there I'll probably be watchin' an NBA game instead! :pony:

Yeah we should just type type "Party Starter" in if it ain't on the list that way they'll be aware to put it there ASAP!

That's awesome you got to see Jazzy Jeff perform live! :1-say-yes:

It's nice to hear Will get nominated, actually I'd rather have him not being nominated at all than being nominated in a pop category, he's hip-hop not pop, 50 Cent'll probably win though like Jim mentioned 'cause it's a popularity contest, pop means popularity, there's nobody more pop than 50 Cent right now! :stickpoke:

"Never, never let a broken heart Take a chance for love away, don't ever let it make you fall apart Oh never, never ever let the pain, take your need for love away Never no never"-Boyz II Men "Never"

NFL Telethon Nets $5M for Katrina Relief NEW YORK - A fund-raising telethon that featured more than 30 current and former NFL players raised $5 million for the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund in about 6 1/2 hours. Monday night's telethon was part of the NFL's "Hurricane Relief Weekend" and coincided with a special "Monday Night Football" doubleheader on ABC and ESPN. Players such as John Elway, Donovan McNabb, Art Shell and Frank Gifford took turns, 12 at a time, spending between 75 minutes to 2 hours answering telephones and taking donations. "We appreciate the tremendous response of our fans and everything that our teams and players are doing to support the relief effort," NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue said. "We are going to stay at it because all of America is going to have to stay at it." NFL teams and relief organizations have raised approximately $4 million from fans at stadiums for Hurricane Katrina relief, the league said, bringing the total generated by the NFL to $21 million. The doubleheader of the New Orleans Saints against the New York Giants and the Washington Redskins versus the Dallas Cowboys was seen in an average of 14.7 million households between 9-11 p.m.

Hey chill homie, I don't think all of us might follow college football so we might not know about Lance playing at Indiana University, I don't follow it myself, thanks for clearing that up though! btw, is there a way for us to get mixtapes of the stuff that Kel Spencer and his brothers work on?! They need to promote themselves more, not even a lot of us know what they're up to.

What's up y'all, I noticed this new featured when I logged into to the forum this morning, could somebody explain what it is and how it works?

Like KRS-ONE mentions in "MCs Act Like They Don't Know" even white kids refer to themselves as n----s :hmm: : "What come around go around I figure Now we got white kids callin' themselves n----s When the tables turn and the crosses burn Remember you must learn"

I thought you could vote all day for this?! :hmm: