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Have u seen the video at all besides that one time on 106 & Park? :word: Well platinum worldwide seems to be the best the album could do and 90% of the rap industry can't say that so it ain't a failure.

To be in the top 40 you usually have to have a lot of interest around your album too so to be in the top 40 with the album selling 5K a week is a miracle, even Tony Yayo ain't in the top 40 with a single right now and his album sold 280K in the 1st 2 weeks, Bow Wow got 2 singles in the top 40 and he ain't even gold yet, a lot of artists release 2nd singles believe it or not when their album's under 10K but the singles usually don't make the top 100 so this is an accomplishment in itself, now if the video catches on and goes to the top 10 sales might go up a lil' bit, maybe it'll be platinum sometime next year and at the worst it's platinum worldwide anyway and 90% of the rap industry can't say that! :gettinjiggywitit:

"NWO Exclusive to Best Buy 09/16/05 01:00 businesswire.com Best Buy to Bring Fans Exclusive New Release from Public Enemy, New Whirl Odor; New CD Marks the Groups First Studio Album in Three Years MINNEAPOLIS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 15, 2005--Public Enemy, one of the world's most formidable rap groups, will release their first studio album in 3 years, New Whirl Odor (SLAMJamz Records), on October 4 exclusively at Best Buy stores and on BestBuy.com. Driven by Chuck D's jolting combination of intelligence and eloquence offset only by Flavor Flav's entertaining interludes, New Whirl Odor marks a resounding return to form. The album also includes the single MKLVFKWR, which Chuck D and Flav recorded with Moby in 2004. "I have long sought to find a way for independent companies such as my SLAMJamz Records to hold onto their artistic integrity while at the same time get a chance to reach many of the masses from highly visible places," said Public Enemy frontman Chuck D. "We appreciate the opportunity to have our new album positioned alongside those from major record labels, expanding opportunities for not just our group but for other small companies in our genre. We thank Best Buy for this position to create these new avenues." New Whirl Odor is yet another entertainment offering to be sold exclusively at Best Buy. The one-month exclusive agreement demonstrates Best Buy's commitment to offering unique music content to its customers and supporting artists. Best Buy will be the first retailer to sell New Whirl Odor, selling it exclusively from October 4 through November 1. "Best Buy wants to bring customers exclusive music entertainment from their favorite artists," said Gary Arnold, senior vice president of entertainment, Best Buy. "Public Enemy is one of the most influential rap groups of all time and they've captivated hip hop fans for years. This new album brings more of the energy and passion that makes this group great." Public Enemy has devoted their career to delivering messages that address weighty issues about race, rage and inequality with a combination of style and substance never seen before. All the albums released in their nearly 20 year career have met with critical acclaim from publications as disparate as Time and The Source, and worldwide sales in the millions. At the close of 1999, The New York Times named Public Enemy's music to their list of the "25 Most Significant Albums of the Last Century" and in 2005 The Library of Congress included Fear of a Black Planet in a list of 50 recordings worthy of preserving that year in their National Recording Registry. Most recently, Spin magazine chose two Public Enemy albums for their "100 Greatest Albums (1985-2005)" list, with It Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back coming in at number two and Fear of a Black Planet at number 21. The band has embarked on over 33 tours, performing over 1200 concerts to fans in 40 countries. Three albums are certified multi-platinum, three more are gold, with four gold singles and a platinum-selling home video. About Best Buy Co., Inc. Best Buy Co., Inc. (NYSE:BBY) is an innovative Fortune 100 growth company that continually strives to create superior customer experiences. Through more than 840 retail stores across the United States and in Canada, our employees connect customers with technology and entertainment products and services that make life easier and more fun. We sell consumer electronics, home-office products, entertainment software, appliances and related services. A Minneapolis-based company, our operations include: Best Buy (BestBuy.com and BestBuy.ca), Future Shop (FutureShop.ca), Geek Squad (GeekSquad.com and GeekSquad.ca) and Magnolia Audio Video (Magnoliaav.com). We support our communities through employee volunteerism and grants from The Best Buy Children's Foundation.

The album needs more than just "Party Starter" to be a hit to get a boost, he needs to do something controversial, lol.

"Change Clothes" sucks, that's like the worst song on "The Black Album", I'd rather hear a verse from "Dirt On Your Shoulder" along with the beat, Timbaland laced him well on that one, that's a better song and maybe a verse from "Swagga" if you got the accepella, that'd flow well together, or maybe the verse from "Girls Ain't Nothin' But Trouble" with "Girls Girls Girls" with it's instrumental, that'd sound fun, I wouldn't mind if "Gettin' Jiggy With It" was mixed with "Big Pimpin'" either but "Big Pimpin'" wasn't on "Blueprint" or "Black Album" so you might not have the accepella to that.

Can't forget about Mariah either, she's sexy and got a great voice. Anyways Xzibit showed love to Will on his song "Criminal Set": "And I’m the only one left from the West that you can’t f*** with But lately I’ve been feelin like Will Smith Why bother with rap when I can get 20 mill’ on a flick ?", he recognizes Will's power and wishes he was there! He also did a cover of Public Enemy's "Fight The Power" on XXX2 soundtrack, he respects the legends! :thumbsup:

Yeah I don't know what's up with that, that's messed up, 2Pac never won any Grammies, KRS never won any Grammies, Nas never won any Grammies, Public Enemy never won any Grammies either, and yet we see low talented rappers like Nelly and Eminem win a whole bunch of Grammies now, Rakim considers Nelly an r&b artist 'cause he has no right to be dissin' KRS when he's singin' half the time and KRS is always flowin' rhymes not singin', at least back in the days high talented artists like JJFP, LL Cool J, and MC Hammer would win through hard work and dedication, Run-Dmc deserve a lifetime achievement Grammy for what they've done as well, they did a lot to get hip-hop to cross over, but now the gimmick rappers win on the most part except for Kanye West, Outkast, and Lauryn Hill recently, I wouldn't be surprised if Mike Jones wins a Grammy instead of Will next year the way the industry's going! It's kinda ironic that Em talks like he doesn't care about winning a Grammy and yet doing all these gimmicks proves that he's only in it to win Grammies and sell a lot of records, Grammies should come off of hard work, not some gimmick, like Nas said:"You talk black/But your albums sound like they give you nuts for a plaque"

Well those are still great albums to check out too, hip-hop with a message, a lot of MC Hammer's songs seem gospel influenced too. But anyways now if you're talkin' classic gospel, Aretha Franklin and Al Green do a lot of gospel songs, you should really check out their stuff if you haven't yet, classic soul music with heart.

"Who was there for when there was no-one around? Who had some time when there was no love to be found? Tell me baby, baby why u keep on doubtin me? Mama used to tell me, Misery loves company Now that I'm grown I see what she meant (just what she meant) Why is it people hate to see things when its right? And for some reason they come and try to mess up their life (tell me why)"-Keith Sweat "Trust Me"

Thanks for posting I already posted it though in the pinned topic for the album sales.

Russell Simmons' nephew BB Jay is a gospel rapper(people compare his flow to Biggie's, he's from Brooklyn too), he made an album called "Universal Concussion" back in 2000 and was featured on KRS-ONE's 2002 gospel rap album called "Spirtual Minded", which also features another gospel rapper called T-Bone, Fat Joe and Rampage are featured on the album too but of course they're not a gospel rapper either, lol, there's quite a bit of gospel rappers out there but it's mostly all underground, Kanye West is the most mainstream rapper that could make songs about Jesus but I think a lot of them got as much flow if not more flow than him too.

Gettin' in the top 40 is an accomplishment for an artist to do, even Kanye West's "Diamonds..." didn't get that high on the charts even with videoplay, now imagine if "Party Starter" got a lil' videoplay it could be top 10 easily.

Like 90% of R&B chicks except for Beyonce and Janet, looks but no talent, lol.

Great news, "Party Starter" is officially another hit by the Fresh Prince! :gettinjiggywitit:

Here's this week's sales, we still can't vote a week later! Kanye West had a big fall this week too but is still #1 'cause he went from 900,000 to 280,000, I guess 50 Cent'll have the highest selling album this year since his re-release pushed him to #2 he went from 20,000 to like 250,000, I wish "Lost and Found" could have that kinda jump, and btw Tim I see Casual ain't in the top 200 in his debut, I thought Hieroglyphics sell 100,000 .: 194 SMITH*WILL LOST & FOUND 4,781 -10 5,302 627,937 :worried:

It's still not there, I'm boycotting BET until they put it on the list! :shrug:

This is why we say "F*** The Police", there's no discrimination right? :therain:

http://p076.ezboard.com/fpoliticalpalacefr...opicID=68.topic -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Few Things to Ponder-LAPD Shut Down dead prez/KRS Benefit Show By Davey D Los Angeles, Sept 10th) It started out, as a beautiful thing…Not only was it beautiful, it was historic and on many levels political. To be honest it seemed almost too good to be true. We’re talking about this past Saturday’s sold out outdoor concert in South Central LA featuring Dead Prez, KRS-One, Self Scientific and Ras Kass. All these folks came together to perform a special benefit concert for Hurricane Katrina victims Initially this planned concert was supposed to address the issues surrounding 9-11 and assess where things were 4 years later especially as it pertained to young people and communities of color. Once the Katrina disaster hit, all those involved including thaFormula.com that sponsored the concert, used the gathering as a way to raise money and resources for hurricane victims. At the same time, the political nature of the concert would not be lost, because as we all know, Katrina opened up a huge can of worms on poverty, race and class. Hence, artists as well as many of the various community groups that were present at the event would address those issues. So here we are with a couple of thousand people from the hood coming out to support a worthy cause and get inspired by some of Hip Hop’s dopest acts. The make up of the crowd was mostly Black and Brown, with everyone vibing in harmony and thus shattering the overblown stories of Black-Brown friction in LA. Fidel Rodriguez, who hosts Divine Forces Radio on Friday Nights on Pacifica’s KPFK, kept things in step and set the tone by dropping an array of facts about the shady-behind the-scenes-antics of both local and national politicians. The cool thing about this, was folks were eating it all up as Fidel blasted away about Katrina clean up contracts being awarded to Vice President Dick Cheney’s old company Halliburton. Fidel also dropped some knowledge about LAPD including the sorted history of police Chief William Bratton and the increased militarization of the police. He also spoke about how a lot of folks in the hood were being depicted as potential terrorists and how there was new laws on the books that allowed the President to keep one in prison indefinitely after he slapped them with a label ‘enemy combatant. Folks were all up in the place soaking everything up. By the time I arrived KRS had already ripped it big time… Well known DJs like Mark Luv of the Zulu Nation held it down on the ones and twos and Ras Kass took the stage and repped in a major way.. On deck after Ras Kass was dead prez and judging by the enthusiastic applause it was clear folks came to see them. So Ras is rocking his set when suddenly everything is thrown off by the loud noise of LA’s infamous ‘ghetto bird’ (police helicopter). At first, everyone thought the copter was just flying by, when suddenly it circled around and flashed its big floodlights on the peaceful crowd. It made a couple of more passes and then almost on cue, the entire crowd started chanting ‘@#%$ the Police’ and put their middle fingers up to the sky. It was still unclear to most attendees as to why the police copter was flying around. During the commotion, Ras Kass announced that he was being shut down as organizers took the stage and told the stunned crowd that the police were stopping the event and that everyone should leave peacefully because LAPD was outside the venue waiting to bust some heads. It was at that point that the police copter flew even lower and beamed its search light on everyone. You could hear the officers barking on their bullhorn from the copter that everyone needed to leave in an orderly fashion. Of course this left, people very upset, especially when no clear reason was being given as to why the event was being shut down. There were no fights or any sort of drama. There was no alcohol being served. The concert was at a venue owned by the people who run thaformula.com. In addition, it was in a warehouse district away from residents. This meant that noise complaints could not be factor in the decision making by the police. The concert organizers tried their best to calm everyone down. They seemed very concerned that nothing would get out of hand as the crowd filed out chanting real loud ‘@#%$ the Police’. A few of the Latino homies had enough and let their anger be known. They were heated and ready to do something, and organizers had to calm them down and dissuade them for engaging in a fight where they were out gunned. When folks left the venue and hit the streets, they were met by a huge line of police cars and at several dozen officers dressed in riot gear with bully clubs drawn. One thing about LAPD for those who don’t know, is that they train all year for this sort of stuff. They have the militarism and intimidation tactics down to a tee. When you left the venue all the chanting stopped because it was clear that LAPD had strategically positioned themselves and had literally surrounded the venue and the people. The whole thing reminded me of gauntlet line with the police on a mission to intimidate. Some had their helmets pulled down and moved alongside of the crowd in a menacing manner. They were like a jarring occupying force-no different then the street gangs they're supposed to regulate. These cats just totally poisoned the air and ruined the spirit of the night. You felt like any moment they were going to attack. They were looking for a reason-any reason to show off and use their fire power and military tactics. At one point everyone braced when a passing car ran over a bottle. Everyone including LAPD thought it was thrown as a phalanx of officers quickly moved from across the street toward the leaving crowd. The whole time this is going on, everyone is trying to figure out what’s the reason for the show of force. Of course, we all know, there's always been an ongoing campaign to dehumanize, provoke and cause dissension in communities of color. One would think, if there were a legitimate reason to shut down the concert, that it could’ve been communicated differently. After all, this was a benefit concert.This was being done when everyone was being asked to come together and do not for self, but for the greater good. Now, this particular concert didn’t have all the fan fare and hype of the BET telethon that came on the night before. There weren’t any major TV outlets or newspaper on hand even though the event was widely publicized and the venue sold out. This was basically folks from the hoods of Southern Cali trying to help out folks who really bad off in the hoods of New Orleans. Anyone who had criticism about Hip Hop would've been proud that night to see everyone stepping up and doing what needed to be done in times of crisis. One would think that such efforts would be supported and encouraged. A fellow writer, named Ani, rolled up and tried talking to one of the officers to find out why they were coming at everyone sideways. She told them it was a benefit for hurricane victims. According to her, the officer made some snide remark and was dismissive. She’s currently writing about this as well. I will be placing a call to Chief Bratton’s office later on this morning to express my displeasure with the way this was handled. This should not be what our tax dollars are used for… As all this was going down, I could not help but think of all the reports I have heard from so called ‘refugees’ aka displaced people from New Orleans who have come on our airwaves and talked about police suppression being directed at them during their greatest time of need-in the aftermath of Katrina. Here we are trying to raise resources and do for self and its obvious such efforts were not supported by LA finest-at least the guys who showed up that night. Maybe they were upset to see Black-and Brown communities getting along and chilling with each other. Maybe they hated seeing KRS, dead prez, Afrika Bambaataa, Ras Kass and all sorts of , Hip Hop folks spanning the range in one place, building with one another. Perhaps they hated seeing folks who are accused of always looking for handouts –doing for self. Who knows? What we do know is that over the past few months southern Cali cops has been doing all sorts of crazy things including recently brutalizing Nation of Islam Minister Tony Muhammed. A couple of weeks ago the police shot a little baby girl to death. We’ve seen the police shoot more then 100 rounds at an unarmed motorist during a routine traffic stop.. The list of atrocities is a long one. All of this is happening in the backdrop of new legislation that grants the police more power. All I know is that a great event was cut short by a bunch of taxpayer-supported goons who used intimidation tactics as opposed to simple humanasque-respectful exchange. However, I guess this is to be expected when you don’t control the politics and economy of your neighborhood. According thaformula.com organizers there will be a rescheduling of the dead prez concert. We’ll keep you posted on the new dates as well as what sort of explanation we get for last Saturday’s police antics.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jackson Names 8 Artists for Katrina Song By SOLVEJ SCHOU, Associated Press Writer2 hours, 15 minutes ago Michael Jackson's publicist says eight performers so far have agreed to join a song to benefit Hurricane Katrina victims. Raymone K. Bain said artists who will appear on Jackson's song, tentatively titled "From the Bottom of My Heart," include James Brown, Jay-Z, Mary J. Blige, Missy Elliott, Lenny Kravitz, R. Kelly, Snoop Dogg and Ciara. But representatives for some of the artists said it was premature to say their clients were committed to the charity single, which hopes to duplicate the 1984 worldwide hit "We Are the World," which Jackson co-wrote to benefit African starvation victims. Representatives for Snoop Dogg said he would take part. But Jay-Z's publicist, Jana Fleishman, said the rapper had "been approached, but Jay told me directly he is not yet confirmed to be on that song." Several other publicists said their clients were in talks and had yet to confirm. Bain, however, insisted during a telephone interview Wednesday that Jackson had personally contacted all the artists himself. She said Jackson will record the tune on 2 Seas Records, the label owned by Sheik Abdulla bin Hamad Al Khalifa, son of the king of Bahrain. Jackson, who was acquitted after a grueling child molestation trial four months ago, has been a guest of Sheik Abdulla for the past several weeks. To confirm her account, Bain handed the phone to Sheik Abdulla, who said that he and Jackson had had talked to each artist personally. "He made every single call himself," the sheik said. Following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Jackson tried unsuccessfully to put together a benefit song called "What More Can I Give." For now, Bain said, the Katrina relief song is "a work in progress," with a time, date and place of recording yet to be scheduled.

Also J.Lo and X-Zibit ? :lolsign: J.Lo ain't that good of a singer but she got nice movies and booty! :lolsign: Xzibit got some nice punchlines, he could rip a lot of mcs, he gave props to Will on his last album too, the worst artist that LL's worked with in my opinion is Ja Rule but he ain't really that bad either, LL works with a lot of talented artists.

"The Black CNN" of hip-hop has done it again! :gettinjiggywitit: I found an article about the song posted on his site today, it basically sums how a lot of us hip-hop heads feel, this music is our free expression even though a lot of current rappers don't feel that way but brothers like Mistachuck keep it alive: http://www.publicenemy.com "David Hinckley writes piece about HELL no WE aint ALLright! New Orleans under water, a rapper's anger overflows Chuck D voices his frustrations on 'Hell No.' Fish gotta swim. Birds gotta fly. Musicians gotta write songs. When the first television images made it clear what the wake of Hurricane Katrina was doing to New Orleans, Chuck D, longtime frontman of Public Enemy, couldn't swoop in with a rescue chopper or patch up the levees. He could, however, write a song. "Hell No, We Ain't AllRight," he called it, and he finished it a day before fellow musician Kanye West remarked during a relief fund-raiser on national TV that "President Bush doesn't care about black people." That's no coincidence, since "Hell No" springs from the same frustration. While Chuck D's song is less directly personal about George W. Bush, he's just as angry about the government George W. Bush leads. New world's upside down and out of order/ Shelter? Food? Wassup, where's the water?/ No answers from disaster, them masses hurtin'/ So who the f- we call - Halliburton? No diplomatic niceties here, not that we'd expect any. Public Enemy has always been a locomotive in whose path one stands at one's own risk. But regardless of how powerfully he writes and raps, Chuck D wouldn't matter if he weren't saying something his audience wanted to hear. In this case, after the country saw fellow American citizens pleading for food and water while their government was apparently taking a nap, Chuck D and Kanye weren't the only viewers who got angry. Chuck D calls rap "the CNN of black America," and while rap hasn't been very topical lately, that doesn't mean its fans didn't care about what was happening in New Orleans. Writing a song like this also ties Chuck D squarely into one of music's oldest traditions. Before radio, television and sound recordings, songs were a mass medium used to spread information and points of view. Slaves spoke among themselves for generations in a whole language based on songs and percussion. Partisans during the Revolutionary War put their arguments to music, and sympathetic minstrels went to taverns and town meetings to sing them. In "Hell No, We Ain't AllRight," Chuck D also calls out artists who care more about flashy jewelry for televised awards shows than their brothers and sisters. But he's a media guy himself these days, with a regular show on Air America radio, and like CNN, he returns in the end to his real point: Now what's over here/ Is a noise so loud/ That some can't hear/ But on TV I can see/ Bunches of people/Looking just like me. And they ain't all right. Originally published on September 14, 2005 "

This looks like some Vanilla Ice s***! You gotta take it "To The Extreme" to suck this bad, I know you're just messin' around there. :rofl:

That's dope! That brother could really freestyle, it'd be hot if Will did a song with him, it'd get him some more exposure.

I'm not a fan of Bloodhound Gang so this doesn't affect me in any way, Will could easily "Wave 'Em Off"!

AJ as much as you don't like Jay-Z you gotta realise that he's one of the most respected mcs in hip-hop, he might not be one of my personal favorites but I could admit that he got a lot of skills, 9 albums deep just like Will, so people that are hating on him are like the ones that hate on Will, they're blind, he's a legend, hate him or love him, Kanye has a lot of respect now too and is on that path of being one, I think all those legends you mentioned there give him props, Jay-Z' supposed to be on LL's next album too btw supposedly and anybody that's down with "The G.O.A.T." is dope in my book, Will likes him too btw, and after seeing "Fade To Black" DVD I could see why, he's a great performer and all those dope artists that were there showed love to him too and in return he respects them too, he was the first rapper to step up and say he liked "Lost and Found", I liked the part in "Fade To Black" where he started rapping out LL's "I Need Love", that was dope! Now I wouldn't mind if you put the second verse from Jay-Z' "99 Problems" along with the first verse from FP's "Mr. Nice Guy" with the first verse from LL's "One In The Morning", and the verse from Kanye's "Get 'Em High", the verses that Run-DMC did on "Down With The King", that'd be a lot of energy.