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I just got to the 3rd level of Burger Time, how many levels are there? Hey Schnazz and Tim, did y'all play this game often before it got posted on this site? :lol:

That's some dope advice there AJ, I couldn't say it better myself, in fact I'm taking notes! :interesting:

Well since all the wack rappers are getting together, it's about time that some talented ones join forces, I wouldn't mind hearing a few Talib/Rakim collabs. :interesting:

"Word is Talib Kweli ended his relationship with Geffen Records. During a recent episode of "Rap City," the BK emcee revealed that he had inked a label deal for his Blacksmith Records. He added that he intended to sign underground standouts MF Doom and Jean Grae and that he hoped to sign Rakim to his roster. A source at Warner Music Group confirmed to SOHH.com that Kweli had a deal with the company. However, the source said the labels' artists had yet to be confirmed."

Hopefully with 'Party Starter' rising means more people are gonna buy the album this week.

I can't believe they have it on the list still, imagine that, "Today we have a TRL debutfrom a video we premiered here only 6 months ago, Will Smith's "Switch" :lolsign: I don't understand how it couldn't make TRL when it got so high on the charts, TRL must be rigged! :damnlorettas:

Im sorry but "Tell Me Why" is not better than "Jesus Walks" ← ur right it's not better, it's way better. ← :iagree: I just used it as an example since it's the closest song to "Tell Me Why" but Will kills "Tell Me Why" much more, he really poured his heart and soul into that song, this is the song that I think could turn the album around, I actually don't mind if "Party Starter" never comes out 'cause summer's ending now and we need some food for thought, I'm more hyped for "Tell Me Why" than anything, Will's released so many club tracks before so "Party Starter" ain't necessary, it won't push sales that much, I think "Tell Me Why" is the type of track that would display Will's versatility as an mc the best and I see the album making a miraculous jump back to the top 40 with this one, this could touch many people.

Everybody needs money no doubt but money isn't everything in life, if that's all you talk about, then you are heartless and the heartless fools selling the most proves the way our society is!

:iagree: Like Rakim says "It Ain't Where Ya From, It's Where Ya At", hip-hop is universal, I'm living in a surburban community myself so I don't really talk 'hood stories in what I rap about since that ain't my life, I used to live in an urban area until I was like 9 years old and I consider it a blessing to be in the suburbs now too, it's a lil' nicer area to grow up at, I like to talk about now more than then but there's always drama everywhere so JJFP and LL probably did live in the suburbs when those things did happen but they don't emphasise about it in all their songs, a lot of commercial rappers would probably just talk about what happened until they were 9 rather than now.

-But Ted, you know very well that these are not the only factors that affect how well an album does, and those things have absolutelty no bearing on why Party Starter is coming out so late and why Lost and Found is so low on the charts... (Lost and Found started off very well... I don't think I have to remind people of that). I think that's our debate here. We're trying to bring in every possible reason as to why the album is where it is, but none of them can or will ever explain away the late release of Party Starter and the fact that this late release is a mistake and that it is hurting how well Lost and Found is doing. Hey Max, you're right, there's no excuse for delaying "Party Starter" so late, but why did "Code Red" sell so lil' when it had 5 singles, including a #1 hit "Boom! Shake The Room"? I think Jive helped promote JJFP the best, Columbia and Interscope sorta dropped the ball for real.

:iagree: but the millions that like 50 Cent/Eminem/Mike Jones don't feel that way is what I'm saying, 50 Cent/Eminem/Mike Jones= selling millions if there were more high skilled rappers selling millions like Common, Nas, LL, and Talib Kweli then Will would fit in that one and on that note: Will Smith/Common/Nas/ Talib Kweli/ LL>every platinum rapper out now since Skills>Selling Millions, I still wanna see "Tell Me Why" 'cause I think that's the type of song that could win Will a Grammy next year, it stands out more than anything out and should receive some credibility the way that "Jesus Walks" did last year when Kanye beat out 50 Cent for the Grammy even though he sold less

I doubt it'll be anything better than what they've done recently, even though it ain't all that, there's been a lot of crap I heard comin' out on G Unit, how many good albums came out from there? Mobb Deep should sign with a label with more quality than that, they've been in the game for a decade, they should be smarter than that, you could sell a lot on G Unit but there's no quality, artists on less popular labels get good money too. I don't see Mobb Deep breakin' that streak and btw we all have choices in life to make money, you could be Lost or Found to make it but the Found ones will win in the end even though the lost ones might have more sometimes than the found, like I try to be found by going to college to find myself a good career while somebody else my age might be trying to take the easy way out acting lost by selling drugs or going into prostitution, but 5 years from now I'll be having a nice career while the ones who're living the fast life could die of AIDs or get shot even though they might be having more money than me right now, it's just like that between Will Smith and 50 Cent, Will Smith will still be in the game making albums 5 years from now and 50 Cent will be laughed at by the public and his career will be over, it takes longer to get ahead when you be honest sometimes but in the end you win, when you sell your soul out you'll suffer eventually 'cause the wrong things you've done to people'll come back to you, JJFP and LL Cool J are great examples that you could keep your soul and make money at the same time, I look up to them not Mobb Deep or 50 Cent.

One more point I gotta make to get this clear once and for all, JJFP actually promoted "Code Red" better than "Big Willie Style", and yet "Code Red" sold 200,000 and "Big Willie Style" sold 9 million, it's just a matter of luck and timing sometimes that you sell a lot, "some stuff works and some stuff don't/you work like hell still get hurt like hell", everybody was feelin' Dr. Dre back in '93 and in '97 people wanted lighter music after the deaths of Pac and Biggie, now people just want 50 Cent/Eminem/Mike Jones and Will doesn't fit into the equation.

:iagree: If it's good music people'll buy it eventually, it took 6 years for Nas' "Illmatic" to go platinum and that's one of the best albums of all time. People were riding the Will Smith bandwagon back then, that's why he sold so much on "Big Willie Style", that's the point I was making, selling 9 million isn't a mistake I'd say since not many rappers have done that, everybody struggles with sales. Even if he released as much singles as 50 Cent does doesn't mean he'd sell as much as him, he might've went platinum but that doesn't really make too much of difference if he does or doesn't 'cause he's sold 30 mill already, look at Kanye West, he released 4 singles for "College Dropout" just like 50's "Get Rich..." and it only sold 2 million when 50 sold 7 million, positive rap is hard to sell in the 1st place, Kanye's younger than Will and that's the only reason he'll sell a lil' bit more, Will's older too and he's not in style like he used to be, there's a lot against Will where he could've only sold 100,000, how many rappers his age are doing the type of numbers Will is? One day 50 Cent won't be popular either, btw, let's make a blog out of this topic. :tednmax:

Yeah Timbaland laced LL well on "The Definition", Teddy Riley produced a song on there too, and Pharrell did a lot of great work on "10", LL works with a lot of great producers. Wasn't there a rumor of LL reuniting with Rick Rubin on "The Definition", I wouldn't mind hearing Rick Rubin/LL together again after hearing that great production he did on "99 Problems" for Jay-Z, he still got it, those are the type of beats LL kills!

That's true, at least he didn't try to hide that he's only in it for the money.

Well FP said in "The Real Deal" interview on the JJFP.com homepage that he knew drugdealers and there was killings in West Philly and I think LL wrote about the drama in Farmers, Boulevard in his book, they grew up with that but they didn't put that in their music so people think they lived in the suburbs just 'cause they don't talk 'bout the 'hood life much in their music, they just don't live that now so they don't talk 'bout it now, some rappers stress too much of their 'hood past and don't talk about how they're living now.

I've been listening to "Big Willie Style" more often lately too, it's such a great album to bump in the summer! :rockon:

Those bags look a lil' too heavy for P. Diddy to carry. :lolsign:

I'm not really that much into Mobb Deep but I wouldn't call them wack 'cause they're down with Run-Dmc and LL Cool J and they do some hot stuff in between, not as consistant as when they came out though in my opinion, on that note seeing them sign with G Unit doesn't really make much sense to me, especially since 50 Cent even dissed them too on a song he said something like, "I'm gonna do ya ass the way Jay-Z did Mobb Deep", they're punks to sign to somebody that dissed them, they might as well sign to Def Jam then 'cause at least Jay-Z puts out better quality than 50 Cent, even Prodigy said that they signed there just for the money, he should gave a holla at his homeboy LL though if he needed some paper, they're a dissapointment now where before I didn't really just pay much attention to them, I'd rather keep my pride and be broke than work for somebody that's dissin' me. :noooo: The title of Public Enemy's future album could be used towards sell-outs like them, "How You Sell Your Soul To Souless People?", it sounds like a good concept, I hope Chuck D disses these wack mcs a lot on that album when it comes out next summer. EDIT: I noticed that Mobb Deep dissed 2Pac again last winter, that's gives me more reason to hate them, they should let the man rest in peace since he can't defend himself now, damn fools, I hope they flop with G Unit. :ShockRifle: "Mobb Deep disses Tupac; Hussein Fatal to reply Friday, November 19, 2004 A new track by Prodigy of Mobb Deep has been released on a mixtape in which Prodigy takes a shot at the late Tupac Shakur. "I only loved Tupac after his death, but man if we'd have bumped heads, you woulda been a mess." This follows a beef between Mobb Deep and Tupac and the Outlawz, after Mobb Deep dissed Tupac in 1995 for no reason other than the media fueld East/West beef. Outlaw members, Napoleon, EDI, Kastro and Young Noble squashed the beef with Mobb Deep a few years ago, so it is surprising to hear such a shot from Prodigy. However, in true Outlaw style, Hussein Fatal, around whom along with the late Kadafi Tupac formed the Outlawz, is said to have recorded a reply to the diss."

I doubt it'll sell 1.6 million in the 1st week, that's wishful thinking unless this turns out to do "Big Willie Style" numbers and outsells G Unit, "College Dropout" only sold 2 million altogether, well I won't be one of those buying this album right away, maybe a few months from now I'll buy it. I don't like it when they call JJFP and LL Cool J suburban rappers just 'cause their music ain't explicit, I thought Kanye referrenced JJFP himself in the interview when I looked at the topic, I guess you're doing anything to get us JJFP fans to buy his album. :lolsign:

Interscope is basically releasing singles the same way as Columbia did for "Big Willie Style", the singles are a half a year apart, it's no different except Will's not that popular now, that's the only difference and the album sales show that fans are not anticipating anymore singles so this will probably be the last one since fans are not buying the album this much this time. :stickpoke:

Thanks for the love! :dope:

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