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I don't think Mase has really influence me not to buy G Unit albums regardless, nothing could, but anybody that wants to be down with that garbage that shouldn't even be called hip-hop, they're all selling their souls, they ain't expressing much, Will summed it up perfectly here of how rappers like them are: "The genesis of the genecide You and your boys trying to decide What to write but your pen is a sword And the blade is being forged Young minds getting gorged States have been altered by liquor by weed And then hate gets exalted as art falls to greed Choices is made As the voices is layed On the track Contract your souls away Soldier rage Did you see his new benz But the mic is the syringe Now you proud of your Got a lot of new friends Got a lot of new ends Bought a house up in the hill Frontin shouts to the pen Giving false accounts Of your accounts amounts amounts to fan treason Stands to reason Since your inception Laced with deception And read false affection and must perish" I'm hoping some mcs that've been expressing themselves for years that go unnoticed will get more recognition in the future, something needs to be done to clean hip-hop up, these rappers with fame are lost, if Mase really stood for something he'd continue doing that even if he sold less instead of just joining G Unit just to sell more albums, I'm happy that Will hasn't done anything like that and tried makin' that "Get Rich Or Die Tryin'" bulls*** just to please more kids but instead he made a real album with heart "Lost and Found" and that's keepin' it real!

The Roots and Musiq "Break U Off"

What's the highest value for a beat, I'd be curious to know that? The Neptunes have been top producers though for the past few years so you figure their beats would be high value, they've even produced pop stars like Britney Spears.

:interesting: It doesn't make sense why the Knicks kept him, they could've used that money to sign some free agents with some value or at least save the cap room, they released Patrick Ewing a few years ago before he retired in Orlando so I don't get why they'd let Houston finish his career with them, he ain't a franchise player like that.

Nas spent $2 million on a beat, damn beats're that expensive? I think the rumor was he bought that beat from the Neptunes for his next album, it'll be interesting to see him work with them, they're great producers no doubt.

I never really liked Mase that much but him going back to swearing again after being a pastor is low, he should just retire instead of embarassing himself sounding all gangsta after talkin' all that righteous talk, he's a damn hypocrite! :eusa_snooty: People're gonna diss him hard too for him sayin' that Big L took lines from him, that's just stupid, Big L was a great lyricist and Mase is wack, that doesn't make sense. I'm sick of all this G Unit crap, I'm gonna boycott buying anything from them, I won't even waste time downloading that crap, I got more Big Daddy Kane albums to buy than to waste time on that garbage, it's sad to see what hip-hop has become, Will's the only role model out there these days.

Naughty By Nature "Guard Your Grill"

:iagree: It's one of the best tracks aimed at haters that any mc has ever done, this displays Will's skills as an all-time great lyricist.

I think I'll move this topic to the JJFP forum, since this is a JJFP related topic, it could spark more interest there, and btw I don't have no website homie.

"Testify" is one of my favorites on "BE", that song has a lot of passion, I hope it's ranked high on the charts when it comes out and pushes the album to platinum status 'cause Common deserves it!

Nas spittin' fire ain't nothin' new, he's only done that over a decade now, "Street's Disciple" is pretty dope too I'd say, it's nice to hear that Kanye's expanding the topics too, I'm gonna definately peep out the album eventually since there's other albums I wanna peep out 1st.

Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five "White Lines"

After listening to 50 Cent and Tony Yayo, P. Diddy and Mase sound like Rakim and Big Daddy Kane, I'd rather see them selling millions of albums again and I'm not even a fan of them like that either.

Kool G Rap Kool G Rap vs. DMX

Zo plays for the Heat not the Raptors anymore, he actually didn't play one game for the Raptors, I thought they waived him before he signed to the Heat but they got so many big guys on the Heat now I wonder if he'll even make the team this year. Anyway here's this article I found on all the moves made in the NBA yesterday: NBA Teams Clean House Under 'Amnesty' Rule By STEPHEN HAWKINS AP Sports Writer DALLAS - Michael Finley would still be with the Dallas Mavericks if they could have acted with their hearts. Instead, they had to make the right financial decision. The Mavericks were one of 18 teams to take advantage of a one-time chance to escape luxury tax obligations for any single contract on their books, waiving their captain just before the deadline late Monday night. Dallas owes Finley $51.8 million over the next three seasons. "This is the hardest part of our business," said Donnie Nelson, the Mavs' president of basketball operations. "We were trying to come up with some creative ways to still have financial freedom and somehow keep Mike. There was no way around the situation. ... There's no question that it's been a very difficult process for the franchise." Teams had until Monday to take the amnesty option that was part of six-year collective bargaining agreement agreed to earlier this summer by the league and the players' union. In all, 18 teams saved more than $212 million in future tax payments by waiving players. Dallas, by far, reaped the most savings by releasing 10-year veteran Finley. The Los Angeles Lakers saved $29.7 million over the next two seasons by releasing Brian Grant, who was expected to sign Tuesday with Phoenix, and the New York Knicks avoid $23.1 in luxury taxes over three seasons for forward Jerome Williams. Under terms of the rule, players who were waived will still be paid by their former teams and cannot re-sign with them until their current contracts have expired. They also get whatever money from contracts with new teams. The Mavericks avoid a dollar-for-dollar tax on Finley's $15.9 million salary for the 2005-06 season. The two-time All-Star is due $17.3 million and $18.6 million over the final two seasons of the $102.2 million, seven-year contract owner Mark Cuban gave him in 2001. "Just what he's meant on and off the court, he's impacted everyone from fans to the front office," Nelson said. "Ultimately, it's our responsibility to do what's in the best interest of the Dallas Mavericks, but Michael has a special place in Mark's heart, my heart, and a special place in the franchise. At the end of the day, this just feels right." Finley was traded to Dallas from Phoenix on Dec. 26, 1996, and was the longest-tenured player for the Mavericks. He averaged 19.8 points for the Mavs in 626 games the past 8 1/2 seasons, when they went from being one of the NBA's worst teams to five straight 50-win seasons and playoff appearances. The Knicks had been expected to release Allan Houston, who played only 20 games last season due to chronic knee soreness. The amnesty provision had even been called the "Allan Houston Rule" by some. But Houston's close ties with Knicks owner James Dolan of Cablevision, along with incoming coach Larry Brown's history of coaching Houston with the 2000 U.S. Olympic team, helped factor into the decision for him to remain on the roster. New York could also get luxury tax and salary cap relief while also having Houston's $40 salary paid by insurance if his knee injury prevents him from returning. "I was prepared for (being waived)," Houston said. "You have to be. The team has made changes already in preparation for me not being there, and I understand that. But I still believe I can play." Among others let go Monday were Fred Hoiberg of Minnesota, Ron Mercer of New Jersey, Calvin Booth of Milwaukee, Troy Bell of Memphis and Clarence Weatherspoon of Houston. Several teams made moves to clear tax obligations for players who left their rosters long ago. They included Alonzo Mourning (Toronto), Vin Baker (Boston), Derrick Coleman (Detroit), Wesley Person (Miami), Eddie Robinson (Chicago) and Howard Eisley (Phoenix). Players previously released under the amnesty program included Doug Christie (Orlando), who appears a likely replacement for Finley in Dallas, Aaron McKie (Philadelphia) and Derek Anderson (Portland). Teams whose payrolls exceed $61.7 million for the upcoming season will have to pay a dollar-for-dollar tax on the overage. Among them are the Indiana Pacers, who waived retired guard Reggie Miller to save $6 million in luxury tax costs. "In my conversations with Reggie, it is clear he will not play next year," Pacers president Donnie Walsh said. "I've spoken with Reggie, and he is fine with it. This will go down as his final assist."

Master P could beat Kel Spencer and Bow Wow? Maybe in a basketball game! :lolsign: anyways I say Queen Latifah Queen Latifah vs. Kool G Rap

Kel Spencer Kel Spencer vs. Master P

Mavericks plan to trade Michael Finley and sign Doug Christie: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2135039 "Mavs exploring trade options for Finley ESPN.com news services DALLAS -- Michael Finley's final day with the Dallas Mavericks arrived Monday, when the team was still exploring trade options leading up to a deadline to waive its longtime leader and captain. Under a one-time amnesty provision in the NBA's new labor contract, the Mavericks would save $51 million in luxury taxes over the next three years by waiving Finley, who would become an unrestricted free agent. Finley would still be guaranteed the $51 million left on his contract, plus whatever money he gets from a new team. He wouldn't be able to re-sign with the Mavericks until his original contract expires after the 2007-08 season, when he will be 35. The deadline for taking advantage of the amnesty provision was 11 p.m. CT Monday. Finley was traded to the Mavericks from Phoenix on Dec. 26, 1996, and is the longest-tenured player on the Dallas roster. He averaged 19.8 points for the Mavericks over 626 games the past 8½ seasons. The Mavericks reportedly have already found Finley's replacement. Reports out of Texas said the Mavericks have reached an oral agreement with veteran swingman Doug Christie on a one-year, $3 million deal. Before Christie officially becomes a Maverick, he must wait seven days to clear waivers, according to league rules. Christie was waived Thursday by the Orlando Magic under the same amnesty clause. Finley was an All-Star before Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitzki were, then together that trio became known as the "Big Three" -- taking the Mavericks from being one of the league's worst teams to having at least 50 wins and going to the playoffs four straight seasons. Nash left as a free agent last summer to the Suns. In 2001, Finley signed a maximum contract of $100-plus million over seven years. The Mavericks owe him about $16 million for 2005-06, with salaries of roughly $17 million and $18 million over the next two seasons. This past season, Finley had some of the lowest averages in his 12 NBA seasons, scoring 15.7 points a game -- his lowest ever in Dallas. He shot 42.7 percent from the field and averaged a career-low 4.1 rebounds. Since averaging at least 20 points a game in his first five full seasons in Dallas, Finley's scoring average has dropped each of the last three seasons. In June, Finley had arthroscopic surgery to remove bone chips from his right ankle, which bothered him most of the season and even made him miss 15 games before Christmas. The surgery was successful, and he should be fully recovered by the start of training camp. Christie, who played for the Sacramento Kings before being traded to the Magic in January, will still get about $8 million for Orlando. He's also played for the Los Angeles Lakers, New York Knicks and Toronto Raptors, averaging 11.4 points and 1.9 steals per game over his career."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1507450/0...?headlines=true "Common's Making His Own Mini-Movie For 'Testify' 08.11.2005 8:10 PM EDT Rapper says he wrote song as if it were a movie. Common (file) Photo: Getty Images On the heels of R. Kelly's "Trapped in the Closet" and Green Day's "Wake Me Up When September Ends," Common is making a mini-movie of his own to accompany his next single, "Testify." For the Chicago-spawned MC, it was an obvious move, since he wrote the song as if it were a movie. "I was thinking 'The Usual Suspects' when I wrote it, where you believe the whole time that the character is doing something, but then you find out something different," Common said recently. "It's about a woman testifying for a man in court." Anthony Mandler, coming off Snoop Dogg's "Ups & Downs/ Bang Out" clip, is directing the video, the follow-up to Be's "Go," which Kanye West helmed (see "Common Out To Show 'Conscious Cats Like Sex Too' In Kanye-Directed Clip") "[Kanye] may direct some more, but not this one," Common said. The mini-movie, set in Chicago, opens in a police interrogation room, where a wife is being questioned about her husband's involvement in a murder/drug deal, according to the treatment. Later, it moves to a courtroom where the trial takes place and the music eventually kicks in. Common plays a court reporter in the back of the room and raps some of the song from there and other parts from a nondescript location. As he tells the story, the action in the video follows suit. And, of course, the end provides a shocking twist. "Not everything is what it appears to be is the moral of this story," Mandler wrote in his treatment. He's directing the clip this week in Los Angeles. Common, meanwhile, has a few more dates left with John Legend, and plans for a fall tour with Common, Legend and their label head, West, are moving forward. "We definitely gonna have a G.O.O.D. Music tour," Common said. "We been performing together [at occasional special events] and it feels good." Although dates are still being scheduled, the three will definitely join forces for an MTV2 $2 Bill concert in Los Angeles on September 10. Common will also attend the MTV Video Music Awards on August 28, where "Go" is a contender for Best Hip-Hop Video."

Hey check out the tracklisting for NBA2K6 I found on okayplayer's board: "NBA 2K6 Soundtrack (tracklist)", I hope it's as cheap as last year's, lol, that was such a great value: 1. "Schoolyard Scrimage Intro" - RJD2 2. "Big Money Talk" - Lyrics Born 3. "That's Why I'm Here" - Redman 4. "Excellent" - Blackalicious 5. "Carolina Agents" - Little Brother 6. "Set 'Em On Fire" - The Roots 7. "Doin' My Job" - Aceyalone 8. "Throw It In Ya Grill" - Hieroglyphics 9. "The Movement" - Common 10. "The Jam" - Jean Grae 11. "Ride" - Zion I 12. "Junkyard" - Aesop Rock 13. "2K6" - Skillz 14. "Schoolyard Scrimage Outro" - RJD2

P. Diddy shelved Heavy D's album I think, New Edition left but at least their album came out, Bad Boy Records is officially dead if Mase decides to leave, well maybe P. Diddy'll retire then and just do commercials, lol. Rakim was planning to start his own label but I heard recently Talib Kweli's trying to start his own label and sign Rakim. Dr. Dre sucks now, he's too overrated now, there's a lot of better producers out now, he ain't the greatest no more, he doesn't even produce all the stuff himself anymore, Jazzy Jeff has been more consistant in his career than him and deserves to be called the greatest producer, the beats Jazzy produced on "Willenium" are better than "2001", those "Lost and Found" remixes that Jazzy did need to come out to prove it, even though I'd say even some of those beats that Freshman did sound more creative than what Dr. Dre has done these days, he's fell off hard, listening to "The Chronic" and then listening to songs he's done for G Unit is like the difference between major leagues and minor leagues, working with G Unit has killed his creativity, he needs to work with legends, he should sign Big Daddy Kane and produce an album for him.

Ice Cube Ice Cube vs. LL Cool J

Yeah Dr. Dre's producing ain't the same as "The Chronic" days anymore, a lot of them sound too similar and predictable but the G Unit rhymes make it even worse, maybe if Dre got high skilled mcs like Rakim, Heavy D, or Big Daddy Kane on those beats it'd sound better and it's wack that Tony Yayo's on a major label and Kel Spencer can't get no recognition.

I doubt it since he's shootin' "Pursuit Of Happiness", hopefully he gets a day off so he could go there to perform "Party Starter" but I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

Grandmaster Flash is a DJ so I have to say Snoop Snoop vs. Ice-T