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I guess you are right Maxfly, I didn't think about it that way, if Will's acting career didn't take off he wouldn't be on Access Hollywood even though he won the 1st rap Grammy, that's why De La Soul or KRS-ONE doesn't get the love they deserve either by the media even though they're rap pioneers 'cause it's all about being relevant now, not the past. :thumbsdown:

They should put that on DVD, I'd love to see it!

Ted, as much as your view of hip hop may be jaded, you have to realize that when a musician or an actor appears on a program, they aren't the only ones benefiting. When Will appears on a program, whether it is Leno or Access granted, people tune in to watch Will. The program is benefiting just as much from Will's appearance as Will is benefiting from being on the show. Think of all the appearances Will has made over this year, not only for Lost and Found but Hitch as well. There's a reason why a person's appearance on television and being interviewed is called free promotion... Lol, I definitely have to laugh thinking about Will paying the Today show to appear. Ridiculous notion. ← Aight since you wanna open up this debate again, I just wanna ask you why can't many independent artists get on TV to perform then if it's free to perform? The same goes for independent actors too, they ain't allowed to go on Regis to be interviewed so nobody goes to see their movie, everyone deserves a chance.

That was wack, they spent most of the time talking about Will hanging out with Tom Cruise, go figure, lol, it seems like the media always talks about his acting career more than his music career, he deserves more credit as an mc than what he gets, I wouldn't mind if Will and Tom did a movie together but damn why couldn't they talk more about the "Party Starter" video? I thought that's why he was on there for! :mad:

Big Tigger is dope, Rap City has been boring without him, I loved how he'd go in the booth and freestyle with the mcs that go on to be interviewed, he got some skills, he should do an album himself! I haven't really heard that much from Free though but there's not really any dope female mcs out, that's a vacancy that needs filling.

Young Jeezy did over 170,000 this week, hip-hop is officially dead! :thumbsdown: We might have to put Lerkot's plan into effect fast. :pony:

I noticed that they mentioned about Access Hollywood in the WS.com calendar, I can't believe they actually UPDATED! It'd be nice if they put the date for the video release but that's asking for too much right? :wiggle: Well Will's probably only gonna be on there for 2 minutes or so and it's just an entertainment news show so I doubt that'd he'd have to pay for it, but if he was featured on the whole half hour he'd probably have to.

Time to update again, well "Party Starter"'s coming out soon to keep the album on the charts or else it'd just fall off in another month: 100 SMITH*WILL LOST & FOUND 10,832 -13 12,381 586,613

I didn't know Shaq was making $30 million dollars a year, he shouldn't have been making Michael Jordan money, well $20 mil a year's still sweet too, that's Will Smith money, "Shaq Diesel makes another 20 mil, walks right past Kobe"! :lolsign:

This is bad news for the rest of the Eastern Conference, the Heat're building a dynasty, as much as I like Shaq I'd rather see him get old and his skills decline than seeing the Heat win 3 championships in a row!

This is a great sign that the video's coming out now, thanks for this, I'm gonna peep for it tonight! :2thumbs:

:yeahthat: It sounds like a great show I could care less about the Nas/50 beef, that's why I renamed this post 'cause everyone else performing there is more interesting to me, it seems like it had everybody there except JJFP, PE, and LL, I'd like to go a whole year without hearing about 50 and his G-Unit click if I had it my way 'cause there's so many that don't get talked about for a year it seems that deserve some props like Wu-Tang Clan and Hieroglyphics, now those are legendary crews, KRS needs to blow up again and rip all these weak commercial rappers out now, he's the greatest battle rhymer, punchlines for days, you won't think Eminem is the greatest after you heard him.

:yeahthat: I can't afford that either, I just listen to my CDs and tapes, but if I had one Will Smith and KRS-ONE songs would top my playlist 'cause I listen to them mostly everyday.

I'm listening to the '99 Haiku D'Etat album, "Hitch" Soundtrack, and MC Hammer's "Too Legit To Quit" lately that I just check out from my library! :dj:

Hey did anybody see Stephen A. Smith interview Allen Iverson last night on ESPN? That was great stuff, he was sporting a Biggie/2Pac t-shirt.

I heard on ESPN today that Antoine Walker might sign to the Heat and they might get James Posey from the Grizzlies for Eddie Jones, that'd make them a really deep team next year.

That's dope to hear that KRS got Nas' back here, he should be on Nas' next album, in fact I wouldn't mind if they did an album together either, and since this is a "Rock The Bells" concerts, where's Uncle L at?

I notice that they have that "There's A Poison Goin' On..." CD at my local library, I'm gonna check it out this week and give it a listen!

That's the only day I watch usually, recently they had a girl named Jazz go to the hall of fame representin' for 'Jersey! :2thumbs:

:word: 106 & Park sucks, it's just the black version of TRL, it's corny as hell and should be taken off the air!

The song's on their "There's A Poison Goin' On" CD that came out in '99, I never heard the album but the lyrics are posted on Public Enemy's website, Tim probably heard it since he has the album autographed by Chuck D himself, btw speaking of PE, they're releasing a greatest hits CD that came out today called "Power To The People And The Beats" for $7.99 at certain retail stores and unfortunately their new album "Rebirth Of A Nation" won't come out till '06 now, supposedly there's supposed to be a new album released in this fall "New Whirl Order" through the internet, PE's staying busy, hopefully they go on tour with JJFP at the end of the year, anyway here are the lyrics to that song: "Swindlers Lust A Dollar A Rhyme But We Barely Get A Dime If You Don’t Own The Master Then The Master Own You Who Do You Trust From Swindler’s Lust From The Back Of The Bus Neither One Of Us Control The Fate Of Our Soul And Swindler’s Lust Hickory Dickory Dock Hand In My Pocket Robbed Me For My Chocolate Mo Dollars Mo Cents For The Big Six Another Million Led To Bled Claimin They Innocence Is It Any Wonder Why Black Folks Goin Under Cause N-----s Be Sold In Bundles No Pressure Tell Me Why They Don’t Care Rap And R & B Pavin The Streets Of Bel-air From The Sales Of Singers No Longer Here The Bigger Killer Gets The Bigger Share Now The Ones I Attack The Negros Got Their Back And Know 80-20 Is A Whack Contract Forever Lack The Voice Of Real Black Stole Rock And Roll And Ain’t Gave It Back Started Off My Defense Now They’re The Ones I Defend Against Who Fell Up Into The Tricks **** The Fight The Power S--- Get That Chuck D N---- Fixed And Keep Him Up Outta The Mix Well Hell Tell Em Chuck Don’t Suck No D---- Be An Ass And The Ass Get Kicked Hand In My Pocket Robbed Me For My Chocolate Watch Em Swindle Yo Ass And Turn A Profit If You Don’t Own The Master Then The Master Own You Who Do You Trust From Swindler’s Lust From The Back Of The Bus Neither One Of Us Control The Fate Of Our Soul And Swindler’s Lust They Don’t Care About Me They Don’t Care About You They Don’t Care About You And Ya Crew Ya Family Neighborhood And Plus They Don’t Give A Damn About Us Profit Off The Soul Of Black Folk Turn Em Into B-----z And N-----s And Stupid Ass Jokes Laugh Wit Us Or Laughin At Us That Is What I’m Guessin We Interrupt This Program Wit That Question Laughin All The Way To The Bank Remember Dem Own The Banks And Dem G-Damn Tanks Now What Company Do I Thank Ain’t This A B----- Heard They Owned Slaves And A Ship That Sank If You Don’t Own The Master Then The Master Own You Who Do You Trust From Swindler’s Lust From The Back Of The Bus Neither One Of Us Control The Fate Of Our Soul And Swindler’s Lust This Is For The Blues People In The Delta This Is For Everybody In The 50’s That Didn’t Get Their Money Little Richard Gettin Half A Penny A Penny All The Super Soul Singers Of The 60’s All The Bands Of The 70’s On The Outside Lookin In All The People That Didn’t Make A Dime Off Their Session Playin And Even The Rappers In The 80’s And The 90’s Still Tryin To Get Paid For What They Put In If You Don’t Own The Master Then The Master Own You Who Do You Trust From Swindler’s Lust From The Back Of The Bus Neither One Of Us Control The Fate Of Our Soul And Swindler’s Lust"

:yeahthat: Or ask if they heard "Lost and Found" yet, that would be more casual and they won't think you're only trying to spam.

Palmeiro Suspended for Steroids Violation By DAVID GINSBURG AP Sports Writer BALTIMORE - When Rafael Palmeiro became the fourth player in major league history to collect 3,000 hits and 500 home runs, his status as a future member of the Hall of Fame seemed somewhat secure. That topic is again open for discussion, along with a new one: Palmeiro's credibility. Five months after telling Congress he never used steroids, Palmeiro on Monday received a 10-day suspension from Major League Baseball after testing positive for a performance-enhancing drug. The players' association challenged the positive test in secret proceedings, and the penalty was held in abeyance until arbitrator Shyam Das decided Monday not to overturn it. No longer able to deny using steroids, Palmeiro insisted he ingested a banned substance by accident. "When I testified in front of Congress, I know that I was testifying under oath and I told the truth," the Baltimore Orioles' first baseman said during a telephone conference call. "Today I am telling the truth again that I did not do this intentionally or knowingly." Palmeiro's peers could only hope he was being honest. "I don't know what he's been taking, but personally I don't think he's taken anything illegally," Chicago White Sox pitcher Mark Buehrle said. "I don't think he's ever taken steroids or anything illegally to help himself to play." That opinion was shared by White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen. "It's a shame," Guillen said. "If he did it, and a mistake was made, I don't have anything bad to say about Raffy. Raffy's a great player." Certainly, the numbers Palmeiro has put up are a testament to his greatness. On July 15, he joined Hank Aaron, Willie Mays and Eddie Murray as the only players with 3,000 hits and 500 homers. Baseball would not say when the positive test occurred, but there's a chance that he joined that exclusive fraternity while steroids were in his system. If nothing else, those who decide his entrance into the Hall of Fame might wonder if his lofty numbers were the product of talent - or steroids. "I hope that people look at my whole career and appreciate that I've given everything that I've got," Palmeiro said. "I respect the Hall of Fame, and if they think that I'm worthy enough, I would be very honored. And if they don't, I gave it all that I had to this game." Palmeiro, 40, was adamant in his assertion that he accidentally ingested the drug, particularly because on March 17 he declared before a congressional committee, "I have never used steroids. Period." Without being specific, the four-time All-Star left the impression that the banned substance was contained in a supplement that was not prescribed. "Why would I do this in a year when I went in front of Congress and I testified and I told the truth?" he said. "Why would I do this during a season where I was going to get to 3,000 hits? It just makes no sense. ... I'm not a crazy person." Christopher Shays of Connecticut, the No. 2 Republican on the committee that investigated steroids in baseball, said in a telephone interview: "He ended up being the most outspoken against steroid use, and even this guy is in a situation where he's been suspended. It just blows me away. Obviously, it calls into question every accomplishment he's had." Palmeiro also expressed indignation over accusations made by former slugger Jose Canseco, who cited Palmeiro as a steroid user in his book. In an interview on the CBS television show "60 Minutes," Canseco - who also testified before Congress - said he had injected Palmeiro with steroids. Canseco told CNBC on Monday that while he accused Palmeiro of prior use, "I do not believe right now or recently Rafael Palmeiro has taken steroids." "There could be a metabolite from the past," Canseco said. "No one really knows how long steroids last in your actual system." It wasn't clear whether Palmeiro's test was taken before or after he spoke before the congressional panel. Anyone who lies under oath could be potentially subject to criminal perjury charges; Congress has the option of referring the case to the Justice Department, which would decide whether it's worth pursuing. Union head Donald Fehr said the suspension "should serve to dispel doubts about our determination to rid baseball of illegal steroids, or the strength or effectiveness of our testing program." Orioles executive vice president Jim Beattie agreed. "I support the efforts in drug testing by Major League Baseball and the Players Association in order to retain the trust of our fans," he said. "It is very unfortunate that process has brought us to this situation at hand." Playing without the 40-year-old Palmeiro on Monday, the Orioles lost 6-3 to the White Sox, their 12th defeat in 13 games. Baltimore played brilliantly in the first half of the season, occupying first place in the AL East for two months and giving Palmeiro cause to believe he might get to the World Series for the first time. Upon his return from the suspension, he first hopes to regain the trust of his teammates. Palmeiro will then try to help the Orioles salvage a season that has taken a dramatic turn for the worse. "I hope I can have their support and understanding of what I'm going through," he said. "Hopefully, they can accept me and let me come back and finish the season and help them get back to the playoffs." Baltimore manager Lee Mazzilli said his players were "a little disappointed," but wanted to support their teammate. "The timing obviously is not good. "We're going to have to make do right now. We're going to have to band together as a team and fight through it."

Hey that D12 thread is invalid, they musta deleted it already, I don't expect too many Eminem teenyboppers to support Will 'cause they don't give a damn about saving hip-hop, they think it's great the way it is now! I say we hit up the ol' school hip-hop forums first if there are any 'cause they'd be the ones that'd most likely willing to support Will if they haven't already! We need to plan this out and figure out who's gonna post at what site, that way the plan could be orgainzed, the first thing we should all post here in this thread and say that we're willing to help then we could figure out how many are doing it, then we assign certain forums for each of us to do. Of course I've been trying already when I post on certain of my favorite hip-hop forums, I mention about the album once in a while and when the album dropped Tim and I mentioned about it over on Public Enemy's board and we got some of their fans interested in it, a lot of their fans seem to respect JJFP 'cause when they talk about ol' school hip-hop they usually mention them as one of their favorites.

The future in the NBA is now, teams don't wanna think about 5-10 years down the road, they usually wanna win now, Shaq's a great player now so they re-signed him, Dwayne Wade might turn out to be a bust in a few years too, nothing's guaranteed.