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Are they posting porno over there yet? :hilarious: :speechless:

I have to agree with you on a part here, but who gives a f*** about Eminem and Nelly winning Grammy's either, hip-hop peers give JJFP more props than they do Eminem and Nelly, mostly fake pop rappers give Eminem and Nelly props, not much legends or hip-hop heads, at the end of the day respect is all that matters, we could ignore JJFP's sales and they'd still stand out as hip-hop greats, wave 'em off! :ali:

Well with success you always have haters, even Michael Jordan would be called a sell-out, people are always gunnin' for you when you're the best, people want to keep you in the 'hood forever, they don't want u to expand. :blabla:

If you look at what these so-called popular rappers do to get fame with flashy videos, that looks more "bubblegum rap" to me than anything(especially "Candy Shop", that's so fake, he's a loner in real life who doesn't take care of his son), 'cause it's artifical, at least if FP decided to do a video with money, jewels, and women it'd be real 'cause he's the real player in this hip-hop game from his 20-mil a flick salary(sales: 20 mil, cars: Bentleys, women: Jada/ he's speaking the truth there it ain't a front) but he's 36 and is above that kid stuff(found gold in my heart put the ice away/nicer day/ live foul homie it's a price to pay), and those pop-rappers are just getting rent-a-cars for their videos, they ain't living that large. A lot of kids are ignorant though 'cause they even say that KRS-ONE is wack from making "nerd rap", but people listening to "nerd rap" will have more success than those listening to "studio gangsta rap" anyway, they're all suckers, let's just "Wave 'Em Off". :ali:

DMX feat. Sisqo "What These Bitches Want?"

There ain't nothin' wrong with Jay-Z producin' the album for her as long as he ain't doin' too much rappin' on it, I'm looking forward to that, ain't the Blastmaster KRS supposed to be on there too? Yeah she ain't really a gangsta rapper and this situation ain't as drastic as the Lil' Kim situation 'cause it ain't like she pulled a gun out, all celebrities have stalkers, she should've hired a bodyguard to take care of them, she'll probably get probation at the worst, this is overhyped.

I think it was the stupid college kids that were comparin' Will Smith to Vanilla Ice, Chuck D defends Vanilla Ice out of pity by saying he's not as wack as people think he is but he defends FP out of respect 'cause he always goes on about how JJFP represented hip-hop well by winning the 1st grammy and sayin' that they bring more energy than PE in performances, let's get that clear, Chuck D knows Vanilla Ice more than any of us do, he might have a better personality than he does as a rapper, but of course I don't understand why Chuck D wouldn't diss Vanilla Ice either 'cause he's a fake gangsta rapper just like 50 Cent now, wow that tells you how much Chuck D thinks of 50 Cent, wacker than Vanilla Ice, too bad his fame can't end just as fast! :hilarious: :hilarious: btw, I don't get why FP would give 50 props on "I Wish I Made That" either, I guess ol' school rappers have more class and must feel pity for these wack rappers, although if these wack rappers ever diss them, the pity is over! :poke:

Well when JJFP finally go on tour, the sales'll pick up even faster, roll on tour.

Tribe Called Quest "Electric Relaxation"

just barely though.... look at their drops from the 1st week. Yeah I think 112's album will fall off fast, at least it should since their music is watered down, r&b sucks right now, I wish Boyz II Men could top the charts again.

The album's doing worse over there in the UK? I figured it was certified platinum already there. :cwm:

I can't believe 112's still sellin' more than FP, what the hell? :confused3:

So is there gonna be any more performances comin' up? It's important that FP keeps on promoting this album, I hope that he's preparing for a tour.

FP "Lost and Found"

I don't think Chuck D was comparing FP to Vanilla Ice, the college kids in the crowd were probably only heard "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It", but you know what though, some kids actually diss Chuck D too for not having much lyricism compared to Jay-Z but Chuck's rhymes are more powerful than what Jay-Z has ever said("99 Problems" is hypocritical 'cause one minute Jay-Z tries to sound righteous but then the next minute he starts braggin') it doesn't matter how much you say it's what you say that counts, Vanilla Ice didn't have much structure either as FP, Chuck D, or MC Hammer but his rhyme content was pointless, if you say somethin' important it's beyond structure, like this verse from "Fight The Power", it don't get deeper than this: "1989 the number another summer (get down) Sound of the funky drummer Music hittin' your heart cause I know you got sould (Brothers and sisters hey) Listen if you're missin' y'all Swingin' while I'm singin' Givin' whatcha gettin' Knowin' what I know While the Black bands sweatin' And the rhythm rhymes rollin' Got to give us what we want Gotta give us what we need Our freedom of speech is freedom or death We got to fight the powers that be Lemme hear you say Fight the power" I actually wouldn't mind if FP decided to go back to a simplier rhyme structure again as long as he keeps up with the positive messages, "Lost and Found" proves though that FP's lyricism has evolved, but the content has always been there, it takes more than being a great lyricist to be a hip-hop legend. btw, this ain't the 1st time Chuck D has defended FP, he's done it many times before, check out this from his terrordome in April 2001: "Hey Chuck, I've been a fan since "Nation of Millions", and I actually met you when you spoke at Harvard a few years ago. (Cornell West was my prof.) I really appreciated your view of hip hop history. Thanks. One question: During that speech, someone in the audience ripped Will Smith, and you went out of your way to strongly defend Smith. I often recount the story to friends who think he's a lightweight, but I don't remember exactly what you said about him. Do you have an opinion today? Thanks. Mike WILL AND I GO BACK…WITH JAZZY, JEFF WE TOURED TOGETHER A BIT FROM 1987-1991…A GOOD GUY 4 REAL AND A FAST RHYMER. WHEN IT MEANT SOMETHING. PLUS HE RARELY RAPPED OUT OF CHARACTER, EXCEPT WHEN HE THOUGHT HE COULD'VE BEAT MIKE TYSON…"

This ain't shocking, he always defends Will, their ain't nothin' wrong with MC Hammer I don't know why people link him to Vanilla Ice that's as stupid as linking 2Pac to Biggie, but Chuck D had no beef with Vanilla Ice, he's actually friends with him too, he's the most open minded mc in hip-hop, he's even working on a song with Nelly for the "Longest Yard" soundtrack, I don't know why! :confused3: But I got a lot of respect for Mistachuck for not dissin' everyone 'cause Nelly actually calmed down now and said that he didn't want to diss KRS and thinks that he's a legend and I don't see Nelly goin' around beefin' with every rapper, but I don't like his music, Chuck D's beef is with rappers that think they're bigger than the game and I think that is the most legit beef, going around and dissin' every rapper ain't gonna solve anythin' but 50's more of an embarassment to hip-hop than Vanilla Ice was and if you don't think so, you're crazy! :poke: Look at what Chuck D said about Vanilla Ice a few years ago, it doesn't change my opinion of me thinkin' Vanilla Ice is a wack mc but that doesn't mean you can't be open-minded: "This news already out before I even said yea or nay. I hear that eMpTyV leaked out a report that VANILLA ICE’S next album is gathering PE for a collab. Well not exactly, CONFRONTATION CAMP is possibly gonna do some work on it. It was just talk but now the CAMP’s band element, CHAINGANG, will come to the table with some involvement. I don’t think cats know that the leader, KYLE JASON, will take on many, damn near most, collabs and cares less about making ‘the cool move’. KYLE hates most industry cliques and standards and relishes ‘underdog ****,’ which is why he nods his head to this move as long as it’s aggressive. Reading the ENEMY BOARD’S comments I feel what cats are saying to an extent but don’t confuse the two. CONFRONTATION CAMP, and KYLE especially, doesn’t want carry over PE fans for the namesake of it. I’ve told him that’s gonna be hard, with both myself and GRIFF, and even DJ LORD, in the group. As far as my take on it, as long as the music’s aggressive I’m ok with it. I look at VANILLA ICE beyond his early 90s trip and I’m honest about that. I think perception is important, but it rules robots just a bit much these days. If people wanna hold his art and consider him forever wack it’s an unfair assessment to evaluate in 2000. In 1990 there were probably a LOT OF SUBURBAN MCs across Amerikkka who didn’t develop until the mid-late 90s, and probably just obtained their total skills in the past few years. I happened to meet this guy when he was a kid in 1988 opening up for PE on tour in OKLAHOMA CITY. I’ve made that no secret. Tried to sign him then, it didn’t work out and I wished him well, which he did. Always said if the right thing came along there’d be some room to work together. The right thing I considered is the rap/metal collab, which I’ve always liked, and I dug his last project. CONFRONTATION CAMP is getting off the ground and a lot of cats will be uncomfortable. The members are cool with that…" If Em came out in 1990 he'd sound just as wack as Vanilla Ice, he was probably rollin' to that. :hilarious:

"Thief's Theme" is actually one of the weak tracks on the album, he could do better storytellin' than that, I love "Bridgin' The Gap" though, no other song sounds quite like it! One song on that album "American Way" is starting to grow on me more now, basically it says the same message that Saul Williams said in that interview fan4ever posted: "Need a truce with the gangs and some food for the hungry On Kerry nuts, he look at you like a monkey You MC's on that old slavery path The Bushs'll look at yo' ass and laugh See, it's all about community, let's help ourselves Cops brutalize us get dealt with with shells" Well KRS would agree with that too 'cause the government ain't doin' s*** and they actually laugh at rappers for acting so ignorant, politicians don't take hip-hop seriously, they always criticize it when only gimmicks get promotion and they only see one side of it, only the few die hard hip-hop fans actually know that hip-hop is deeper than Bentleys, hoes, and jewels, but the deep songs get no promotion, that's why I hope FP's "Tell Me Why" does real well, the hip-hop community has to rally hard behind that song and give it support, the only way Nas would go platinum again is if gets involved in another beef but he doesn't want those bandwagon fans anymore, that's what he's said in his recent interviews.

Hieroglyphics "Soweto", off the NBA2K5 soundtrack :afro:

Isn't Busta Rhymes on the track too? It should be Nas feat. Busta Rhymes, I think it'd been better if Busta actually had a verse on there 'cause that track could of used that extra energy, anyway since I saw the post about Nas here I threw on "Street's Disciple" and I'm listening to: Nas "U.B.R."(Unauthorized Biography Of Rakim), great track, I love how much he respects the ol' school, all his favorites are my favorites, it'd be cool if he did a song about JJFP :thumb:

Well those sales sound pretty good for now here in the US consider mostly everyone here likes gangsta rap, so how is it doing in other countries?

This track is better than all songs out now combined(except "Switch" of course) and should be #1 on the charts, did it even go top 40 yet? Yeah this album's definately worth buying and listening to although if it was shorter it'd been a classic according to what hip-hop fans say on hip-hop forums and I agree with them on that, I still think "God's Son" is his best album since "Illmatic". Nas doesn't really get a lot of promotion but he proved that could do well if he wanted to, it reminds me of the situation that KRS had on Jive records, basically every rapper was dumped off of Jive that all sold more than KRS did, and now Nas is the only rapper on Columbia even though everyone had more fame than him, which seems to be turning into a pop label now too, I think Nas will take the KRS path and just sell albums off of Ill Will Records after awhile, he ain't in it for the fame, although I wish they were 'cause they could easily knock off pop rappers if they chose to. FP, Nas, LL(they're the only mainstream rappers I bought CDs from in the last year) and a few other mcs should put their money together and start their own big hip-hop label where they could promote themselves to put Def Scam and Aftermath out of buisiness. :poke:

NWA "Express Yourself"

Well Columbia really ruined FP's credability in hip-hop the most and made him more of a pop rapper image rather than lettin' him be the hip-hop mc he's always been but they did give him a lot of promotion and lackluster production by The Trackmasters on occasions that kept those albums from being perfect classics, "Big Willie Style" sold more than all JJFP CDs combined, but I think cred is more important than sales, and they f****d up his image. FP's making 20 million a film though, he should be able to get Overbrook going even stronger and promote himself, he would actually do better doing that.

Busta Rhymes "Throw Ya Hands Where My Eyes Can See", classic hip-hop track, the video was too! :afro:

Nuff props for posting that, I agree with most of that, most rappers are kissin' ass to sell records, JJFP are are only one of few that set a positive example for the hip-hop community but they don't get much airplay, and god forbid if we ever heard a conscious KRS song on the radio, if you turn on the radio all you hear is songs that sound like advertisements. :poke: