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Thanks Tim! I'm gonna check out the audio when I get a chance, they're a lot better than most of these mainstream mcs out, they got creativity! :ali:

How much material did 2Pac make? :dunno: I thought there wasn't anymore unreleased material left, I'm starting to get the feeling that he's alive still 'cause he's releasing more material than mcs alive are! :lolsign: I can't wait to hear some new material from Foxy Brown, she's a dope female mc. :clap:

How does Chingy represent the essence of hip-hop? If you knew the hip-hop history you'd know that Chingy ain't original, you're frontin' to say that he's dope 'cause he's garbage doing those kiddy raps, a 10-year old can beat him in a battle! :lolsign:

Well I haven't really heard much from Linkin Park and in my opinion Jay-Z is a subpar mc since 2000, even though he's very popular doesn't mean that he's talented, KRS-ONE's not popular either but if they both were in a room and battled KRS-ONE would eat him alive, bottomline, that's fact not opinion! This album doesn't sound appealing for me to check out but you can if you want to, I ain't hating! :ditto:

Hip-hop is such an amazing genre of music, the problem is that a lot of 2day's mcs don't respect their history, they only watch MTV and don't take the time to read books about the history or buy CD's that ain't on the charts but are miles ahead of what's out on the charts! :bang:

The problem with Fabolous is that he comes out wit dope singles but the rest of the album ain't really up to par compared to the single, who knows maybe it's different this time, but I'd rather catch up with my CD collection than buy Fabolous' album anyway. I heard that Ja Rule's actually getting some street cred back 'cause he did a song with Jadakiss and Fat Joe called "New York, New York" but I still don't like him much either. If we keep on buying this mainstream crap, we're gonna keep on seeing it, if the artist is wack, don't give 'em your money that you worked hard for! :bang: I'm definately geting New Edition's album 'cause they're legendary! I hope they go #1! :ditto:

I actually bought it from one of my friends in high school that downloaded it for me, it's a lot better than "Get Rich Or Die Tryin'", no comparison, him, Jay-Z, and Eminem were a lot better when they were underground than they are now! :ditto:

Here's a few of my favorites over the past 10 years DJ Jazzy Jeff "The Magnificent"(2002) Nas "Stillmatic"(2001) Nas "God's Son"(2002) Nas "I Am..."(1999) KRS-ONE and The Temple Of Hip-Hop "Spiritual Minded"(2002) KRS-ONE "The Sneak Attack"(2001) KRS-ONE "Kristyles"(2003) Jay-Z "Reasonable Doubt"(1996) Eminem "Infinite"(1996) Notorious B.I.G. "Ready To Die"(1994) 2Pac "All Eyez On Me" (1996) Talib Kweli and DJ Hi-Tek "Reflection Eternal"(2000) Mos Def "Black On Both Sides"(1999) 50 Cent "Power Of The Dollar" (1999) Dr. Dre "Chronic 2001"(1999) Snoop Doggy Dogg "Doggystyle"(1994) Snoop Dogg "Paid The Cost To Be The Boss" (2002) The Roots "Things Fall Apart"(1999) Slick Rick "The Art Of Storytelling"(1999) LL Cool J "G.O.A.T"(2000) Wyclef Jean "The Masquerade"(2002) Wyclef Jean "The Carnival"(1997) Public Enemy "Revolvolution"(2002) FP "Born To Reign"(2002) The Roots "Prenology"(2002) DMX"Great Depression"(2001) DMX "And Then There Was X"(1999) Outlawz/2Pac "Still I Rise" Outlawz "Novakane"(2002) Fat Joe "J.O.E."(Jealous Ones Envy) (1995) Fat Joe "Don Cartagena"(1998) Big Pun "Capital Punishment"(1998) Wu-Tang Clan "Wu-Tang Forever"(1997) Foxy Brown "Ill Na Na"(1996) Warren G "Regulate... G Funk Era"(1994) Ice Cube "War/Peace"(2000)

Guy "I Wanna Get Wit U" Guy Feat. Heavy D "Do Me Right" DMX "Ruff Ryders Anthem" DMX "Who We Be" 50 Cent "Wanksta"(I Know there's a lot of 50 Haters here but you can't front on that beat) Nas "Thief's Theme" James Brown "Funky Drummer"(A lot of mcs sample this beat) Get Fresh Crew "The Show" KRS-ONE "Sound Of Da Police" KRS-ONE "Gunnin' 'Em Down" BDP(KRS-ONE) "South Bronx" KRS-ONE Feat. T-Bone(an underground gospel mc) "The Struggle Continues" KRS-ONE "Hush"

This song "Hip-Hop Knowledge" that KRS-ONE did in 2001 is an autobiography of his career: "You know.. life is funny.. If you don't repeat the actions of your own success you won't be successful You gotta know your own formula, your own ingredients What made you, YOU.. 1987 I was at the Latin Quarters Listenin to Afrika Bambaata give the order The call of the order was to avoid the slaughter He said, "Record companies ain't got nuttin for ya!" Without a lawyer, he taught The Infinity Lessons In how hip-hop could be a, many a blessing And that was great, so in 1988 there was no debate, we had to end the hate The name of the game was "Stop the Violence" and unity, knowledge, and self-reliance We - started talkin bout Martin and Malcolm Had these ghetto kids goin, "Huh, what about him?" 1989, Professor Griff speaks his mind but his freedom of speech is declined 1990 came with the West coast East coast, West coast, who is the best coast? Lookin back now, of COURSE it was bogus The whole argument was where we lost focus We got hopeless; not with the lyrics and music but with hip-hop, and how we used it Or abused it, you know how the crew get "You like it cause you choose it" 1991, we opened our eyes with Human Education Against Lies, we tried to talk about the state of humanity But all these others rappers got mad at me They called me "Captain Human", another message was sent "Self Destruction don't pay the f***in' rent" Remember that? Nobody wanted conscious rap It was like - where these ballers at? Where can they call us at? All was wack Hip-Hop culture was fallin flat and that was that So in 1992, I found my crew They said, "Yo Kris, what you wanna do?" I said, "Damn - why they wanna get with me? If I bust they s*** I'm contradictory. If I play the bitch role, they take my shoe. Tell me what the f*** am I supposed to do?" So I did it, don't stop get it get it get it All of a sudden these critics they wanna spit it "Kay Are Ess One is con-tra-dic-to-ry" Just cause I wouldn't let these rappers get with me f*** that, f*** you ,and f*** your pen If a rapper wanna diss, yo I'd do it again But I'm makin these ends, and I got my friends And I really don't wanna have to sit in the pen So I go back to the philosopher 1993 hip-hop is uhh.. wack Go back, check the facts 1994, "Return of the Boom Bap" It wasn't all about the loot It was all about Harry Allen Rhythm Cultural Institute Blowin up, 1995 Conscious rap is still alive But nobody wanna play it, nobody wanna say it Nobody okayed it, they'd all rather hate it 1996 it really don't stop We put together somethin called the Temple of Hip-Hop Not just DJin, breakin, graf and lyrics But how hip-hop affects the spirit "Step Into a World," that's what I did 1997 I was raisin my kid or kids, but I, had to go Cause New York DJ's changed the flows to clothes and hoes, but that wasn't me I'll be damned if I dance for the MTV So in 1998 I began to debate Should I go now, or should I really wait? '99, I moved to L.A. you see and took a gig with the WB Started studyin philosophy full-time To have a full heart, full body, full mind But you know what the problem is or was? DJ's don't raise our kids, cuz they so caught up in the cash and jewels How they gonna really see a hip-hop school? How they gonna really see a hip-hop temple? They don't even wanna play my instrumentals, but big up Dr. Dre, Snoop, Xzibit Especially Xzibit, he was there in a minute Mic Conception, all of them, said "Yo you need help? I should call them" When I was in L.A., I held the crown Bloods, Crips, they held me down I could never forget Mad Lion, killer pride with the gat in the lap in the low-ride Oh I can't forget, Icy Ice, Lucky Lou Julio G, that was the crew Davey D, Ingrid, David Connor The list goes on and on, let me tell ya FredWreck, and my man Protest Much respect, no less To my spiritual and mental defenders Big up to L.A., temple members But in 2000, I seen how I wanted to live I wasn't no executive So I picked up the mic and I quit my job Said to Simone I gotta get with God She said, "Don't worry bout these dollars and quarters. Record companies ain't got nuttin for ya." Damn, she took me back to Bam! Took me back to who I am! Brought me back to the New York land! Now I overstand!.." I'll post some Rakim's lyrics later too so you could check out his lyricism until you hear some of his music, Peace!

I wouldn't call Alonzo Mourning a waste, he's a warrior for all that he's been through over the past few years, he's taking a big risk playing again because he just had a kidney transplant less than a year ago! The Nets actually have Aaron Williams still, but they also got rid of Rodney Rodgers, who went to the Hornets, they're gonna miss the playoffs this year I bet, in one of the last years in NJ before they go to Brooklyn, face it they're rebuilding, they ain't competing this year. :ditto: It's time for the Bulls to come back again, we got Luol Deng, Eddy Curry, Ben Gordon, Kirk Hinrich, and Antonio Davis to lead us back to the playoffs! :rock:

Will Smith Feat. Tatyana Ali and MC Lyte "Who Am I?"

If this new Eminem album sells 4 million I'd be disappointed 'cause LL's album is barely gonna go platinum and the Talib Kweli album probably won't even go gold, "Breathe" is a hot song, but I don't put Fabolous in the same category as Nas and Talib Kweli, and Eminem can't hold his own against any mc, except fake pop rappers like Nelly! BTW, I'm listening to Public Enemy "Prophets Of Rage" right now

I'm listening to James Brown's "Live At The Apollo 1962" album, gotta give it up to the Godfather of Soul! :bowdown:

When it comes to KRS-ONE's new albums you gotta check out his 2001 "The Sneak Attack", after I heard that album I've been hooked to him ever since then, I got his 2002 "Spirtual Minded" which is a creative gospel rap album, I didn't get his 2002 "The Mixtape" though yet, I also have his 2003 "Kristyles" album which is also a dope album, I'm still looking forward to buying his 2004 "Keep Right" album where it has a bonus DVD of him performing. His new songs seems to be as consistant as his ol' songs, when it comes to his ol' songs, you should buy KRS-ONE "A Retrospective", which features his greatest hits. He has the biggest catolog of any mc alive so it's hard to keep up with him, I bet he's working on a 14th album by now, I still got catching up to do with him, it's hard to find those 5 BDP albums I only have 6 of his CD's, but I'd have to say that those 6 CD's are on heavy rotation in my CD player. As far as Rakim, I would also recommend getting "Paid In Full", it's one the greatest albums in hip-hop history! That album's another one of my personal favorites, I got his '99 album "The Master" which was one of the albums that was slept on that year, and Eric B. and Rakim's "20th Century Masters: Greatest Hits" which features all their classic joints, I have to catch up on his collection too. Does anyone know when Rakim's new album comin' out? :dunno: I read on the internet that he decided to start his own independent label after leaving Aftermath.

I was watching the Nets-Bulls game last night, the Bulls were losing by 27 points in the 1st half but they came back to take the lead in the 4th quarter but they lost the game in 2 overtimes, but it was an exciting game, if the Bulls keep playing this hard they'll be going back to the playoffs this year, they're looking more competitive! :ali: The Nets only won the game because Alonzo Mourning played so well, it's great that he's back in the NBA again, a great inspiration to us all! :bowdown:

I'm gonna name a few of my favorite beats Nas "NY State Of Mind" Boyz II Men "End Of The Road" Snoop Dogg "Gin And Juice" Warren G Feat. Nate Dogg "Regulate" Snoop Dogg Feat. Pharrell "Beautiful" Snoop Dogg Feat. Pharrell "Drop It Like It's Hot" Nas "Made You Look" JJFP Feat. Teddy Riley "I'm Lookin' For The One" JJFP "Boom Shake The Room" The Roots "Don't Say Nothin'" The Roots Feat. Eraka Badu "You Got Me" Boyz II Men "Roll Wit Me"

:werd: We gotta respect each others opinions, I respect your opinion krizia and I hope that you decide to keep on posting here!

I read this article a couple years ago at ZuluNation.com but I'm gonna post it here for y'all to see: HIP HOP HISTORY MONTH The Universal Zulu Nation calls on the World to recognize the whole month of November as HIP HOP HISTORY MONTH! The official birthday of the Universal Zulu Nation is November 12, 1973. The official birthday of Hip Hop is November 12th, 1974. With consideration to the above mentioned dates, nothing makes more sense than to celebrate Hip Hop culture and it's history during November, which is exactly what the Universal Zulu Nation has been doing for over 27 + years. November is also significant in the fact that it kicks off the "indoor jam season". The Hip Hop community jams, enjoyed outdoors in the parks, throughout the Summer, had to move indoors for about 7 months to community centers, gymnasiums, schools etc. for the Fall and Winter seasons. The Hip Hop World should recognize this month and pay tribute to those who laid the foundation and paved the way as well as to those who continue to preserve the rich tradition of the culture. Of course, The Zulu Nation appreciates all efforts to preserve the whole of Hip Hop culture, including any days or weeks set aside to conscientiously appreciate Hip Hop, but would rather that all of these days and weeks combine to celebrate in unity every November as the tradition has been since the beginning of this culture. Founded by the godfather of Hip Hop himself, Afrika Bambaataa, The Universal Zulu Nation is the world's oldest, largest and most respected grass roots Hip Hop organization. It's members and supporters are Hip Hop's most famous and legendary artists. True school enthusiasts travel from all around the world to be in New York City, in November, for the annual Zulu Hip Hop Anniversary, the only true Hip Hop Anniversary since the beginning. The Anniversary hosts a positive Hip Hop community coming together from all walks of life to celebrate the true essence and excitement of what Hip Hop was meant to be. Many artists who have donated their performances to help raise funds at Zulu Hip Hop Anniversaries have gone on to become legends and many of these legends continue to return to NYC, in November, to give back to the core community who supported them since their careers began. A Little Background Information: In the early years of the culture, the movement went untitled until Afrika Bambaataa, started calling it "Hip Hop", a term originated by Lovebug Starski. In the 70's, ten years prior to it's gaining global recognition, Hip Hop was a celebration of life gradually developing each of it's elements to form a cultural movement. Due to it's energy, dynamics, and momentum, Hip Hop culture has become, ultimately, a key to upliftment and reformation, as well as a billion-dollar industry. From the 80's on, the Rap industry and media have helped to make the terms "Hip Hop" and "Rap" synonymous, leaving out the other elements included in the culture. In light of this enormous oversight, the Zulu Nation promotes the "5th element" of Hip Hop, which is KNOWLEDGE, and actively tries to educate the masses about the history and foundational elements of true Hip Hop culture. Bambaataa declared: "When we made Hip Hop, we made it hoping it would be about peace, love, unity and having fun so that people could get away from the negativity that was plaguing our streets (gang violence, drug abuse, self hate, violence among those of African and Latino descent). Even though this negativity still happens here and there, as the culture progresses, we play a big role in conflict resolution and enforcing positivity." Hip Hop is the Vehicle to Deliver Innumerable Lessons! Afrika Bambaataa doesn't believe that Hip Hop heads should just have knowledge of Hip Hop. He promotes and proves that Hip Hop can be used as a vehicle for teaching awareness, knowledge, wisdom, understanding, freedom, justice, equality, peace, unity, love, respect, responsibility and recreation, overcoming challenges, economics, mathematics. science, life, truth, facts and faith. The Elements: Hip Hop culture is defined as a movement which is expressed through various artistic mediums which we call "elements". The main elements are known as MC'ing (Rapping), DJ'ing, WRITING (Aerosol Art), SEVERAL DANCE FORMS (which include Breaking, Up-Rocking, Popping, and Locking) and the element which holds the rest together: KNOWLEDGE. There are also other elements such as Vocal Percussion/Beat Boxing, Fashion, etc. Within the past 20 years, Hip-Hop culture has greatly influenced the entertainment world with its creative contributions in music, dance, art, poetry, and fashion. Due to their lack of knowledge about the whole of Hip Hop culture, many of our world's youth are mistaken in thinking that activities such as: smoking blunts, drinking 40's, wearing a designer label plastered across their chest, carrying a gun, or going to strip clubs, are "Hip Hop". Hip Hop is being portrayed negatively by many artists who work in the element of Rap (emceeing), and this negativity is usually instigated and promoted by the record industry and various other corporations who exploit the culture at the expense of the youth's state of mind and morality. The Universal Zulu Nation believes there is a difference in speaking out about negativity (activism) and promoting it as a desirable lifestyle. Gangsters, pimps, playas, hustlers, niggers, spics, and many other derogatory words once used against us are now self employed in our everyday vocabulary. Our ancestors who have fought and died trying to free us from these sicknesses and slave mentality are probably turning over in their graves! Bambaataa asks you to just think about this, "How in the hell did we turn from GODS to dogs?" Afrika Bambaataa encourages you to do more research about our story, his/her-story, and what you think is your mystery is actually your history. Where are our Hip Hop thinkers, lawyers, holistic doctors, scientists, agriculturalists/herbalists, revolutionaries, politicians, judges, researchers, teachers, police, army, accountants, anthropologists, etc. Where is our own Hip Hop Museum? Many talk the talk but don't walk the walk. Many straight out sell-out to the liberation of our people as well as to all humans on the planet so called Earth! He also encourages you to do research on any Hip Hop organization that deals with consciousness and the upliftment of all people. To all those who purposely make up your own history and lie about the culture- DO YOUR RESEARCH!

Hey now there was no need to re-post this topic and delete the other "Switch Remix" topic that we were having the debate in, you shoulda just locked that one up and leave it at that 'cause we already talked a lot about this, we seem to be going crazy these days 'cause we're waiting so LONG for this JJFP single, that I'm looking forward to way more than these lame immitators that try to bite their style, no need to say no more 'cause u seem to get offended whenever any of us don't agree wit u, it's just an opinion, the whole world ain't gonna agree wit u, we all need to start actin' more mature about things here, I don't hate u 'cause u like Nick Cannon and I don't hate lambert 'cause he likes 50 Cent but it's a fact that 50's more respected in the game, that doesn't mean I'm a 50 fanatic but I live with that and u should live with that too, real artists don't cry if people hate on them when they try to improve to shut 'em up, we'll see who's still standing in the game 10 years from now, wake up and see that! Stop the beef. :werd:

Hey I think John Kerry would've done a good job as president 'cause he was looking out for the people that lost their jobs over the last 4 years, he's not a slimy guy, anyone what's wrong with being human? That's why a black person will never be president 'cause they think that black people are all thugs, we're allowed to sing, dance, rap, and play basketball, as long as we don't run for president!?? :what: Kerry has class 'cause he called up George Bush and congradulated him for winning the election. The police can't do everything and I wasn't just blaming Bush for that 'cause that's always there but it's gonna get worse if there's no jobs there, come on now, common sense would tell u that, but as long as u have a job u don't care right? I have a job but i'm just getting by, I'm more worried about paying bills than I am about a terrorist killing me. No offense to anyone that likes him here but I think that Bush has done a horrible job as president 'cause more countries hate us now and our youth is ignorant to politics and that's why he won the election(75% of Americans 18-30 voted for Bush while the overall adult vote for Bush was 51%), I think mainstream hip-hop needs to become more conscious for the hip-hop generation 'cause the fans are just as ignorant as the artists are about politics and I blame these ignorant pop rappers for getting these ignorant young people to go vote 'cause how're gonna be paying attention to politics if you're partying and doing drugs all the time?! :dunno: People that don't know about politics shouldn't vote! I guess they won't complain if they drafted to go, I'm one of the only 25% of young Americans that voted for Kerry, if you seriously looked at the issues you'd realise that Bush is doing a terrible job, the 2000 election was rigged but I ain't gonna say no more about that! :cya: There are no winners in war!

I may not be a political expert but I can see with my eyes that America has more problems than just worrying about terrorism, we have racism, drugs, gangs, and prostitution, crap schools because of more poverty that Bush doesn't acknowledge, sure we're not as poor as most countries, but we could get there if Bush just accompanies the rich and ignores the poor, common sense tells me this, common sense also tells me that we could be in the last days like AJ said our generation could die off soon, I don't wanna have kids in this world, war can't make things better in the world, it'll only make them worse! :cya: Like Chuck D said: "Man has a period, it's called war!"

Bush a great leader? Man you must be doing pretty well to say that 'cause millions of Americans lost their jobs and the minimum wage stays the same while all prices are going up and we're dying over in a country that doesn't even have weapons of mass destruction, how would you like to be drafted to go to Iraq? I wouldn't like it! It's only gonna get worse now that he's re-elected, that tells how stupid a lot of Americans are, I'm pissed off, if John Kerry couldn't get elected I don't see a woman or a black man getting elected in my lifetime 'cause John Kerry is standing up for the poor, but look like not too many people give a damn about the poor! :bang:

:werd: Hip-hop needs that right now! :dj:

:dunno: That sounds kinda wack to not to do a tour considering that "Willenium" sold over 3 million copies and it would've done better if he toured for it, the only reason why "Willenium" sold less was 'cause Columbia chose to put out the worst tracks on the album as singles, considering that "So Fresh" wasn't technically a single, but it still sold 3 million copies and that's something that any artist would consider successful in a heartbeat, a lot of great mcs haven't even sold 3 million CDs in their careers let alone one album! :ditto: