Turntable Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 If you look at what they mean for the History.. But if you simply look at skill's it ignorant to say they'd ever come close to a group like The Clan.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash trey Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 If you look at what they mean for the History.. But if you simply look at skill's it ignorant to say they'd ever come close to a group like The Clan.. Now I love the clan...but really tracks like the message are still relevant as far as as skills go...it really captured the essence of hip hop...a similar thing can be said about C.R.E.A.M but both tracks are def G.O.A.T contenders...You don't have to be complex to have skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turntable Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 So now we gonna judge a group on one track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash trey Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 So now we gonna judge a group on one track? Of course not...I was just comparing two monumental tracks in order to exemplify my point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerkot Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Who decides whats skill and whats not skill? In my opinion.. GMF&F5 are much more skilled than the Wu-Tang Clan. If you talk about complexity in rhyme schemes etc then sure you are right, but that definitely wouldnt be a fair comparison. But not all would agree that rhyme scheme = skill. Personally, when I talk about the best rap group ever, I talk about who changed the rap game the most, who was the most original and who had the best lyrics and the best sway. You have to compare the groups with other groups of the same time and see who stands out the most. And actually... I think GMF&F5 had better beats than Wu-Tang Clan. And I think they had better flow in many tracks, for example in Superrappin. Better lyrics as well, not more complex, but better. And Melle Mel had something none of the people in Wu-Tang has: a powerful, energetic voice and the ability to articulate so that you could actually hear what he was saying all the time. But.. the point is, skill is a matter of taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash trey Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Surprisingly well said Lerkot ... but I wouldn't replace the Wu since they were monumental in their own way. And regardless of what you say coming with complex rhyme schemes and punchlines requires skill... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan 4ever Posted March 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 They made a list with groups that didn't make the final cut....JJFP is in it! Check it out here: http://www.mtv.com/bands/h/hip_hop_week/20...s/index12.jhtml This is what they wrote about JJFP: DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince No matter what Will Smith is doing now, there's no denying their pioneering presence: They were the first to win a Grammy and bring it back to the hip-hop community, and helped rap shake hands with the mainstream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart5 Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Thats dope that they gave props to the dj/mc groups too. JJFP finally got some respect that they deserve. Its also cool to see them mention some of my other favs: Pete Rock & CL Smooth, and Gang Starr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpinJack AJ Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Thanx 4 sharing that....good 2 see them get some recognition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash trey Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 "Regarless of what Will Smith is doing now? I saw that as hateration... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan 4ever Posted March 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 "Regarless of what Will Smith is doing now? I saw that as hateration... Yeah...but I think they are referring 2 his movies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFly Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 You guys should check out the videos of the deliberations. They're pretty interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogue Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 "Regarless of what Will Smith is doing now? I saw that as hateration... I think what their saying is that no matter how many blockbuster movies Will makes he'll always be a hip hop legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan 4ever Posted March 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 You guys should check out the videos of the deliberations. They're pretty interesting. Yeah they are...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymn Strings Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 *AHEM= uh...De La Soul, I think they've been together long than all of them I also would easily put Brand Nubian in that top 10 and what's up with no mention of Boot Camp Clik? Smif N Wessun is one of my favorite groups ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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