Da Brakes Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Some of you may heard the rumours that Rakim wrote 'Summertime'. Well Jeff has cleared it up on Twitter! Posted by Jeff on Twitter: djjazzyjeff215Fyi...Rakim did not write Summertime...I love Rakim to death but that was 100% Big Willy Styles... Lets hope this will squash the rumours! To be honest tho I can see why some people would think Rakim wrote it! Will's flow on that track was very similar to Ra's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Willie Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 This is what annoys me though. WS/JJFP drop one of the dopest song of all time and someone has to come in and say someone else wrote it, like saying "FP couldnt write this, its too good". Will doesnt get enough credit for his lyrical ability. He can hang with the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Hero1 Posted July 5, 2009 Admin Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Thats cool Jeff put that to rest.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCEM Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 man Jeff should put some more stuff to rest. there is so much trash around. really people should know whats the real deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 It's good to see that Jeff squashed the rumors. I think this whole "ghostwriting" thing started, when Will started his solo career. Also the funny thing if Will drops a classic or has hit-singles out, other people want to be credited for it. Where are the ghostwriters for Born to Reign? :bump2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Rakim himself denies that he wrote Summertime! Interview with Rakim and Flavor Flav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Simon Lerkot Berglind Posted July 5, 2009 Members Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Well... like Da Brakes.. I could see how some people might think he wrote it, since it's kind of his flow.. But its not that hard to detect differences either. It doesnt feel like Rakim's vocabulary and I don't know about the rhyme scheme either.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpinJack AJ Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 I've never heard this rumor. When did it 1st come out. I would have never belived it...those lyrics sound like they are 100% Fresh Prince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Brakes Posted July 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 I've never heard this rumor. When did it 1st come out. I would have never belived it...those lyrics sound like they are 100% Fresh Prince. Its been around for a very long time!! I think its more to do with the flow as opposed to the lyrics of the song. It does bear resemblance to the way Rakim flows on a track! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 I've never heard this rumor. When did it 1st come out. I would have never belived it...those lyrics sound like they are 100% Fresh Prince. Its been around for a very long time!! I think its more to do with the flow as opposed to the lyrics of the song. It does bear resemblance to the way Rakim flows on a track! This sounds more reasonable to me. It must be the flow and not the lyrics. I've always thought that 'Summertime' was a bit different from the rest of their songs, at least from their previous work. Not saying that it was bad, of course. just different. I've always found FP's voice strange in that song. He said that he had a cold when he recorded it, lol. I like the song much, but I can't say it's one of my faves from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant1 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 I've always loved how FP's flow was on ''Summertime'' i just wish people gave him more credit for writing his own songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Philaflava Posted August 16, 2009 Members Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 I searched Google for the answer to this because so many people have tried to tell me it was Rakim. My boy Magneto who pretty much knows everything about everything swears its MC Juice aka J.U.I.C.E. from Chicago. The dude who was one of the best battle rapper in the mid-late 90'.s Think Wake Up Show, Molemen, Vakill, Chino XL and Supernatural. Anyways I refuse to believe it because I don't think Juice is a good song writer but I also agree that Jeff is kinda holding back because he has nothing to gain by releasing unnecessary info that might make Will look bad. Peep and if ANYONE gets a confirmation from Jeff please let me know. Email me or whatever. Jeff's old house number in 90's used to be 471-DOPE. I don't know why I just posted that but I thought it was funny. Don't try calling the number as it hasn't been his in like 15 years. As a kid I used to call and just studder before hanging up. http://www.philaflava.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112584 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpinJack AJ Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Why do people believe crap like that. Until Code Red, JJ+FP was very exclusive 2 themselves. They almost never had guest emcees, singers, producers. "Summertime" is straight JJ+FP. Jeff has confirmed that no one else wrote "Summertime"...the article may even be somewhere in this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Philaflava Posted August 17, 2009 Members Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Why do people believe crap like that. Until Code Red, JJ+FP was very exclusive 2 themselves. They almost never had guest emcees, singers, producers. "Summertime" is straight JJ+FP. Jeff has confirmed that no one else wrote "Summertime"...the article may even be somewhere in this post. Because ghost witting is a VERY VERY common thing within hip-hop. Just ask Jeff's hypeman (Skillz). BallerStatus.com: Have you done ghost-writing for any artists? Juice: When I first moved back to Chicago from L.A., I began working with Clubhouse Entertainment. I was part of a writing team that produced "Summertime" by Will Smith, "The Kissing Game" by High Five, "Pass the Toilet Paper" by OutHere Brothers. I would freestyle in the booth and if there were any hot lines to be used, they would use 'em. I didn't really understand publishing at the time and didn't really care because those cats kind of took me in. We got sued by Kool and the Gang for the sample and nobody made money. It let me know that I had what it took to be a writer though. I am still working with the producer of "Summertime" (K Fingers aka AZZA). Everyone in Chicago knows he's still my guy. We just wrote and produced an album for a new artist, and I'm re-writing "Summertime" for him (He's a shorty, so we think it could work again). We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turntable Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I never ever heard that rumor..lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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