bigted Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Spin Magazine Picks Radiohead CD As Best By JAKE COYLE, Associated Press Writer Sun Jun 19, 2:24 PM ET NEW YORK - Spin magazine named Radiohead's "OK Computer" the top album of the past 20 years, praising a futuristic sound that manages to feel alive "even when its words are spoken by a robot." The British band's album edged out Public Enemy's "It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back" and Nirvana's "Nevermind" on a list in Spin's 20th anniversary issue, currently on newsstands. "Between Thom Yorke's orange-alert worldview and the band's meld of epic guitar rock and electronic glitch, (`OK Computer') not only forecast a decade of music but uncannily predicted our global culture of communal distress," reads the editorial note on what separated the 1997 disc from the other 99 ranked albums. Sandwiched between Radiohead's straight-ahead rock disc "The Bends" and the more experimental, electronic "Kid A," "OK Computer" was the album that propelled Radiohead to worldwide, stadium-sized popularity. Though it never went higher than No. 21 on the Billboard charts, it won critical raves and a Grammy for best alternative music performance. Spin's Chuck Klosterman says the album "manages to sound how the future will feel. ... It's a mechanical album that always feels alive, even when its words are spoken by a robot." Years earlier, Spin ranked Nirvana's "Nevermind" the greatest album of the nineties. In the time since, however, editor-in-chief Sia Michel and others simply found they were reaching for "OK Computer" more than the slightly less relevant "Nevermind." "Whereas when Nirvana came out, everybody was talking about negation and slackers and everything like that — seven years later, it was the dot-com boom and 22-year-olds were making $80,000 on Web sites," Michel recently told The Associated Press. Also in the top 10, in order, are Pavement's "Slanted and Enchanted," The Smiths' "The Queen is Dead," Pixies' "Surfer Rosa," De La Soul's "3 Feet High and Rising," Prince's "Sign `o' the Times," PJ Harvey's "Rid of Me" and N.W.A.'s "Straight Outta Compton." The entire list of 100 is just as eclectic; a photograph of an atypical trio of Dr. Dre, Bono and Beck dons the issue's cover. The amount of hip-hop on the list may surprise some (25 albums in all — 26 if you count Rage Against the Machine), given that Spin is predominantly a rock magazine. Michel, however, points out that Spin started several years before hip-hop mag Source was founded: "We put hip-hop on the cover before anyone else did." "Because we started this list in 1985, we pretty much hit hip-hop in its golden age," she says. "There were so many important, groundbreaking albums coming out right about that time." After gathering suggestions from everyone at the magazine, a tribunal of Michel and editors Jon Dolan and Charles Aaron sorted out the ultimate records of "the Spin era." Their criteria, Michel says, was the basic brilliance of the record, its innovation and its overall relevance. "Relevance doesn't have to mean it sold 10 million copies," she says. "Someone like the Pixies never really sold records, but Nirvana has said it wouldn't exist without the Pixies." Both the approach and content stands in stark contrast to fellow rock magazine Rolling Stone's 2003 issue on the top 500 albums of all time. Topping that collection was the more hallowed (and less surprising) like of the Beatles, the Beach Boys, Bob Dylan and the Rolling Stones. Some of the most recent entries to Spin's list are 2004's "College Dropout" by Kanye West, the Yeah Yeah Yeahs' 2003 "Fever to Tell" and Wilco's 2002 "Yankee Foxtrot Hotel." Of course, judgments of these kind are always subject to debate. "The art department was just railing against us all the time and campaigning against things," says Michel. The lack of inclusion of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, she says, pushed them to the brink: "That was a band that the art department was like, `You guys are crazy! Don't even talk to us!'" 1. radiohead - ok computer 2. public enemy - it takes a nation... 3. nirvana - nevermind 4. pavement - slanted and enchanted 5. the smiths - the queen is dead 6. the pixies - surfer rosa 7. de la soul - 3 ft high.. 8. prince - sign o' the times 9. pj harvey - rid of me 10. nwa - straight outta compton 11. u2- achtung baby 12. beastie boys- paul's boutique 13. husker du - new day rising 14. sonic youth - daydream nation 15. liz phair - exile in guyville 16. beck - odelay 17. nas - illmatic 18. guns n roses - appetite for destruction 19. hole - live through this 20. wu-tang clan - enter the wu-tang 36 chambers 21. public enemy - fear of a black planet 22. my bloody valentine - loveless 23. outkast - stankonia 24. sleater-kinney - dig me out 25. nine inch nails- downward spiral 26. bjork- post 27. the cure - the head on the door 28. oasis - definitely maybe 29. fugazi - 13 songs 30. biggie - ready to die 31. dinosaur jr. - you're living all over me 32. the replacements - tim 33. ice cube - amerikka's.. 34. elliot smith - either/or 35. dr. dre - the chronic 36. pixies - doolittle 37. guided by voices - bee thousand 38. a tribe called quest - low end theory 39. lucinda williams - lucinda williams 40. run dmc- raising hell 41. smashing pumpkins - siamese dream 42. jane's addiction - nothing's shocking 43. bdp - criminal minded 44. green day - dookie 45. kanye west - college dropout 46. the fall - this nation's saving grace 47. eric b and rakim - paid in full 48. radiohead - kid a 49. lauryn hill - the miseducation.. 50. new order - low life 51. nirvana - in utero 52. beastie boys - licensed to ill 53. rage - battle of la 54. the breeders - last splash 55. the chemical brothers - dig your own hole 56. pj harvey - to bring you my love 57. white stripes - white blood cells 58. metallica - master of puppets 59. modest mouse - the lonesome crowded west 60. de la soul - de la soul is dead 61. weezer - pinkerton 62. missy elliot - supa dupa fly 63. pavement - crooked rain, crooked rain 64. eminem - marshall mathers lp 65. basement jaxx - remedy 66. outkast - aquemini 67. slayer - reign in blood 68. tricky - maxiquaye 69. dj shadow - endtroducing dj shadow 70. jay-z - the blueprint 71. the jesus and mary chain - psychocandy 72. raekwon - only built for cuban linx 73. pulp - different class 74. portishead - dummy 75. le tigre - le tigre 76. belle and sebastian - if you're feeling sinister 77. wilco - yankee hotel foxtrot 78. the stone roses - the stone roses 79. moby - everything is wrong 80. d'angelo - voodoo 81. beck - mellow gold 82. jeff buckley - grace 83. at the drive-in - relationship of command 84. soundgarden - superunknown 85. rem - automatic for the people 86. meat puppets - up on the sun 87. blur - parklife 88. stereolab - emperor tomato ketchup 89. yeah yeah yeahs - fever to tell 90. sonic youth - sister 91. xtc - skylarking 92. big black - atomizer 93. pearl jam - ten 94. slint - spiderland 95. elastica - elastica 96. the pogues - rum, sodomy, and the lash 97. neutral milk hotel - in the aeroplane over the sea 98. cornershop - when i was born for the 7th time 99. afghan whigs - gentlemen 100. the strokes - is this it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfuqua23 Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 I had caught this at the bottom when I was watchin' E!. I knew U'd be on this. And I was tryna figure out what it was for so I could tell ya. For the most part, that's a pretty solid list. Some albums should probably be above others, but to make a Top 100 in the course of 20 years and having various genres, is pretty impressive. I liked how it wasn't based on sales either. Overall relevance as they put it. The only hip hop of today that I saw them put in was Kanye's "College Dropout" and Jay-Z's "black album". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpinJack AJ Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 The albums i listed below are the only ones i think are any good...and only 4 or 5 of them even fit in that top 100 area. Awful list. 2. public enemy - it takes a nation... 7. de la soul - 3 ft high.. 8. prince - sign o' the times 10. nwa - straight outta compton 12. beastie boys- paul's boutique 17. nas - illmatic 20. wu-tang clan - enter the wu-tang 36 chambers 21. public enemy - fear of a black planet 23. outkast - stankonia 33. ice cube - amerikka's.. 35. dr. dre - the chronic 38. a tribe called quest - low end theory 40. run dmc- raising hell 43. bdp - criminal minded 45. kanye west - college dropout 47. eric b and rakim - paid in full 49. lauryn hill - the miseducation.. 60. de la soul - de la soul is dead 62. missy elliot - supa dupa fly 64. eminem - marshall mathers lp 66. outkast - aquemini 80. d'angelo - voodoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Willie Style Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 LL Cool J's "Radio" should've been on there. And I can't help but point out that Kanye West is arguably one of the most overrated rappers alive as of now. I'm sorry, his production skills are great, but his lyrics tend to be bad. And he has one of the top influential albums of the past 20 years??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotzappa11 Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 2. public enemy - it takes a nation... 3. nirvana - nevermind 7. de la soul - 3 ft high.. 8. prince - sign o' the times 10. nwa - straight outta compton 12. beastie boys- paul's boutique 16. beck - odelay 17. nas - illmatic 18. guns n roses - appetite for destruction 20. wu-tang clan - enter the wu-tang 36 chambers 21. public enemy - fear of a black planet 23. outkast - stankonia 27. the cure - the head on the door 28. oasis - definitely maybe 35. dr. dre - the chronic 38. a tribe called quest - low end theory 40. run dmc- raising hell 43. bdp - criminal minded 44. green day - dookie 45. kanye west - college dropout 47. eric b and rakim - paid in full 49. lauryn hill - the miseducation.. 52. beastie boys - licensed to ill 53. rage - battle of la 55. the chemical brothers - dig your own hole 58. metallica - master of puppets 60. de la soul - de la soul is dead 61. weezer - pinkerton 63. pavement - crooked rain, crooked rain 64. eminem - marshall mathers lp 65. basement jaxx - remedy 69. dj shadow - endtroducing dj shadow 78. the stone roses - the stone roses 81. beck - mellow gold 87. blur - parklife 100. the strokes - is this it I've heard/got all of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted June 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 (edited) I don't understand how they could say record sales don't matter when they ignore albums like Will Smith's "Big Willie Style", Fugees "The Score", and LL Cool J's "Mr. Smith" then they put Eminem's "Marshall Mathers LP"(he bites off 2Pac/Biggie like everyone else but gets shine 'cause he's white, Beastie Boys were mentioned already so he shouldn't get any merit), Jay-Z' "The Blueprint"(more impact than Big Daddy Kane or even Biggie?), and Kanye West's "College Dropout"(more impact than "Paid In Full"? that just came out last year too, give it some time and we'll see not that much impact) which were high selling albums but didn't have that much of an impact, they gave too much props to gangsta/hardcore rap then they should've but I guess that's the only rap rock heads get down with. I think Slick Rick(for storytelling), 2Pac(for making introspective/thugged out rhymes that most rappers do now), and MC Hammer(for the way rappers make videos) should've been mentioned too 'cause they're influence on commercial rap is evident today. Queen Latifah and MC Lyte had more impact on female rappers than Lauryn Hill and Missy Elliot have had even though their album were great, that'd be in the top 200. I noticed D'angelo's album was the only r&b album they mentioned, they should've mentioned Babyface, Boyz II Men, Guy, Bobby Brown, New Edition, Keith Sweat, Mary J. Blidge, Toni Braxton, Jill Scott, and even Usher before they mentioned D'angelo. How the hell could Michael Jackson's "Bad" and Janet Jackson's "Rhthym Nation" be ignored? This list does suck but it's make a perfect list with music categories together but you could say that JJFP, 2Pac, and LL Cool J have had a big impact just like Public Enemy and Run-DMC for people that don't even listen to rap so they should've been mentioned. Edited June 21, 2005 by bigted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevTastic Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 I think its quite a good list cos its so broad. Good to see a fair few Hip-Hop albums on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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