bea321 Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 1/ I'm not a guy! 2/ I regret you are misinformed. For those who want to open their eyes: http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/8748.0.html http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/14/...l?from=storylhs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFly Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 1/ I'm not a guy! 2/ I regret you are misinformed. For those who want to open their eyes: http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/8748.0.html http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/14/...l?from=storylhs ← And so he won 7 times because of a drug he had in his B sample 7 years ago? What does that have to do with him falling off his bike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesSyde Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 yeah i'm sure that that drug use they found 7 years ago has contributed to him winning all 7 of those races :lolsign: if u can prove that he used drugs to win each one of those races i will change my mind. even if he doped up for one race, it doesn't change the fact that he won 6 fair races which is damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFly Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 yeah i'm sure that that drug use they found 7 years ago has contributed to him winning all 7 of those races :lolsign: if u can prove that he used drugs to win each one of those races i will change my mind. even if he doped up for one race, it doesn't change the fact that he won 6 fair races which is damn good. ← What's worse is that Lance Armstrong seemed to use EPO during his fight with cancer. If you're going to indict a man for cheating without sufficient evidence while he was trying to save his life, shame on the French media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bea321 Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 We know he used EPO in 1999. Why would he have stopped using such drugs suddenly for the next tours ??? In addition, read that: http://www.wacotrib.com/sports/content/sha...40105lance.html Personally, I don't believe in the theory of a plot! And here are the best extracts of the book "L.A Confidentiel, les secrets de Lance Armstrong" (it's in french and it's highly interesting and sometimes quite touching I must say): http://www.lexpress.fr/info/sciences/dossi....asp?ida=428157 http://www.lexpress.fr/info/sciences/dossi....asp?ida=428159 http://www.lexpress.fr/info/sciences/dossi....asp?ida=428160 http://www.lexpress.fr/info/sciences/dossi....asp?ida=428161 And to finish, you should read that (also in french): http://www.lexpress.fr/info/sciences/dossi....asp?ida=434552 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Hero1 Posted September 8, 2005 Admin Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Lance would have competing against a lot of other cyclists ondrugs too..its rife in that sport.. and they really don't do much about it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesSyde Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 yeah the guy just overcame cancer. i'm sure he'd willingly risk his health by taking drugs. what a joke man :shakehead: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFly Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 We know he used EPO in 1999. Why would he have stopped using such drugs suddenly for the next tours ??? In addition, read that: http://www.wacotrib.com/sports/content/sha...40105lance.html Personally, I don't believe in the theory of a plot! And here are the best extracts of the book "L.A Confidentiel, les secrets de Lance Armstrong" (it's in french and it's highly interesting and sometimes quite touching I must say): http://www.lexpress.fr/info/sciences/dossi....asp?ida=428157 http://www.lexpress.fr/info/sciences/dossi....asp?ida=428159 http://www.lexpress.fr/info/sciences/dossi....asp?ida=428160 http://www.lexpress.fr/info/sciences/dossi....asp?ida=428161 And to finish, you should read that (also in french): http://www.lexpress.fr/info/sciences/dossi....asp?ida=434552 ← Lance Armstong is the most heavily tested cyclist in the sport, yet they've found 1 drug, and even that is questionable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFly Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Something interesting to read. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9268919/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bea321 Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 To Hero1:the struggle against doping is a reality but it's not easy to detect the drugs... The cyclists who take drugs are always ahead of the laboratories that control them... To reborntoreign: human beings don't always rationnaly... It's human nature... To Maxfly: your article doesn't say he is innocent... By the way, did you read the articles I indicated? What do you think of "Emma" and of the butler of Armstrong? They are just compulsive liars? Is it so hard to face facts?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFly Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 To Maxfly: your article doesn't say he is innocent... By the way, did you read the articles I indicated? What do you think of "Emma" and of the butler of Armstrong? They are just compulsive liars? Is it so hard to face facts?!? ← The article also doesn't say that he's guilty... But not so fast... UCI said it was still “awaiting plausible answers” to its requests to WADA and the laboratory. “We deplore the fact that the long-established and entrenched confidentiality principle could be violated in such a flagrant way without any respect for fair play and the rider’s privacy,” it said. No bias huh... This wasn't even done in respect to protocol... And we still haven't seen documents... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bea321 Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 To Maxfly: your article doesn't say he is innocent... By the way, did you read the articles I indicated? What do you think of "Emma" and of the butler of Armstrong? They are just compulsive liars? Is it so hard to face facts?!? ← The article also doesn't say that he's guilty... But not so fast... UCI said it was still “awaiting plausible answers” to its requests to WADA and the laboratory. “We deplore the fact that the long-established and entrenched confidentiality principle could be violated in such a flagrant way without any respect for fair play and the rider’s privacy,” it said. No bias huh... This wasn't even done in respect to protocol... And we still haven't seen documents... ← Well, I don't see where is the problem... Some samples turned out to be positive, it's just normal that the results are disseminated in the press... The journalists are paid to give informations and they did it. No matter who agreed to make the results public... As long as what is said in the press is the truth... Of course, "Lance Armstrong" is the only name that has been given in the press although some samples of other cyclists were also positive. And it's true that it's unfair but it's not a "witch hunt"... The guy turns paranonoiac... And you will probably see the documents soon I guess... P.S: you really have no opinion about Emma and the butler? In any case, they aren't french, you can't accuse them of being biased... Besides, even Greg Lemond has more than doubts about the innocence of Lance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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