MaxFly Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 I know nothing of the Rastafarian religion, so I went looking and came across this page: http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/rast.html Here's something it said: "early in the history of the movement Leonard Howell gave the Rastafarians six fundamental principles:" 1 Hatred for the white race. 2 The complete superiority of the black race. 3 Revenge on whites for their wickedness. 4 The negation, persecution, and humiliation of the government and legal bodies of Jamaica. 5 Preparation to go back to Africa, and 6 Acknowledging Emperor Haile Selassie as the Supreme Being and only ruler of black people ← That didn't say anything about wearing dreads means you can't date white people. ← Well... I think "hatred for the white race" may set some limits on relationships between the two races... Tim, if it is possible, could you post whatever media Common's statements are in or on. Rappers are starting to say more and more stupid things, and it's like... Et tu Common... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Saint Posted September 8, 2005 Members Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 I know nothing of the Rastafarian religion, so I went looking and came across this page: http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/rast.html Here's something it said: "early in the history of the movement Leonard Howell gave the Rastafarians six fundamental principles:" 1 Hatred for the white race. 2 The complete superiority of the black race. 3 Revenge on whites for their wickedness. 4 The negation, persecution, and humiliation of the government and legal bodies of Jamaica. 5 Preparation to go back to Africa, and 6 Acknowledging Emperor Haile Selassie as the Supreme Being and only ruler of black people ← That didn't say anything about wearing dreads means you can't date white people. ← Well... I think "hatred for the white race" may set some limits on relationships between the two races... Tim, if it is possible, could you post whatever media Common's statements are in or on. Rappers are starting to say more and more stupid things, and it's like... Et tu Common... ← "hatred for the white race" has nothing to do with the wearing of dreads. I'd also like to point out there are different groups of Rastafarians, so don't think all Rastas hate white people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozmo D Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 I know nothing of the Rastafarian religion, so I went looking and came across this page: http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/rast.html Here's something it said: "early in the history of the movement Leonard Howell gave the Rastafarians six fundamental principles:" 1 Hatred for the white race. 2 The complete superiority of the black race. 3 Revenge on whites for their wickedness. 4 The negation, persecution, and humiliation of the government and legal bodies of Jamaica. 5 Preparation to go back to Africa, and 6 Acknowledging Emperor Haile Selassie as the Supreme Being and only ruler of black people ← That didn't say anything about wearing dreads means you can't date white people. ← Well... I think "hatred for the white race" may set some limits on relationships between the two races... Tim, if it is possible, could you post whatever media Common's statements are in or on. Rappers are starting to say more and more stupid things, and it's like... Et tu Common... ← "hatred for the white race" has nothing to do with the wearing of dreads. I'd also like to point out there are different groups of Rastafarians, so don't think all Rastas hate white people. ← No, all Rastas don't hate white people, just as all Jews don't forbid mixing with gentiles. However, perhaps the Rastas that do hate white people consider those that don't not to be true Rastas, just as the Ultra Orthodox Jews shun the Jews that allow mixing. :shrug: The Rastafarian movement WAS founded on racial grounds though, so it just makes sense that those Rastas who are purists would be more than a little upset at dreadlocked black men dating white women. Again, my question to ANYONE who would don dreads, why would you emulate the most visible aspect of a religion if you did not wish to IDENTIFY with that religion? Hmmmm.....? :stickpoke: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cataboy3 Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 everyones ignorant these days cept kweli hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Hero1 Posted September 8, 2005 Author Admin Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 I gotta say I was completely ignorant to the rastafarian movement.. next time I see a white dude with dreds I might ask them if they have hatred for the white race :sick: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Saint Posted September 8, 2005 Members Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 I gotta say I was completely ignorant to the rastafarian movement.. next time I see a white dude with dreds I might ask them if they have hatred for the white race :sick: ← Well it wouldn't exactly be right to ask them that since dreads are a sign of the Nazarite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixmastermegan7 Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Common's main man Kanye states in the beginning of Jesus Walks "We at war with racism" well....I don't think by Common saying what he said it's making things any better :dontgetit: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 I don't know what's going on if this is true, these rastafarians sound extremely racist against whites, I mean if Common's supporting these people it'd be an embarassment for hip-hop's image, in fact it might kill a lot of it 'cause he's one of the most positive brothers out there, his career will be tarnished, I just don't see how he could be that kinda racist since a lot of white people attend his shows, I won't believe this until I hear audio 'cause even Will likes Common, this would be devasting for hip-hop, I don't know what to believe anymore! :damnlorettas: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnazz Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 I don't know if this was racist or not, it really depends on how he said it and what he meant. If he's trying to say "All these guys are wearing the badge of this religion, but aren't actually following it..." it'd be one thing. From the quote, he could have even been implying that it's stupid to wear dreds because it's a symbol of racism... Of course, if he was saying "don't date white girls if your a Rasta", then that'd be racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Hero1 Posted September 8, 2005 Author Admin Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 I remember people got upset when common said at his shows "its nothin but coffee shop chicks and white dudes" in love of my life off the roots next movement album... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 If this is true, what next: LL Cool J getting arrested? :therain: :damnyou: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuga Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 (edited) i dont think it was a racist remark, he was probably pointing out the fact that these people sport the dreadlock without knowing what it stands for, it like if i were to dress like buddhist monk and then go out and eat meat. Or if i started wearing a Cross and then worshippeed Buddha or something. p.s. Australia is a great place to live, hardly no racisism!!! here in sydney, we have Viets, Aborigine's, Irish, English, American, African, Kenyan, Chinese, Koreans, japanese, indians, sri lankens, Tongans, etc.... so many to name Edited September 8, 2005 by shuga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozmo D Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 p.s. Australia is a great place to live, hardly no racisism!!!← I think the Aborigines may have a few things to say about that. :1-say-yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Saint Posted September 8, 2005 Members Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 I don't know what's going on if this is true, these rastafarians sound extremely racist against whites, I mean if Common's supporting these people it'd be an embarassment for hip-hop's image, in fact it might kill a lot of it 'cause he's one of the most positive brothers out there, his career will be tarnished, I just don't see how he could be that kinda racist since a lot of white people attend his shows, I won't believe this until I hear audio 'cause even Will likes Common, this would be devasting for hip-hop, I don't know what to believe anymore! :damnlorettas: ← Rastafarians of today are a bit different than they once were, there are white Rastas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 I don't know what's going on if this is true, these rastafarians sound extremely racist against whites, I mean if Common's supporting these people it'd be an embarassment for hip-hop's image, in fact it might kill a lot of it 'cause he's one of the most positive brothers out there, his career will be tarnished, I just don't see how he could be that kinda racist since a lot of white people attend his shows, I won't believe this until I hear audio 'cause even Will likes Common, this would be devasting for hip-hop, I don't know what to believe anymore! :damnlorettas: ← Rastafarians of today are a bit different than they once were, there are white Rastas. ← Well if there are white rastas then it ain't that bad then what Common said, phew, lol. :davidblaine: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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