bigted Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 The people who buy the albums take Will seriously, the ones that hate on him are the ones that think "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It" was the first song he ever made so I don't take their hate seriously. :stickpoke: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristigolo Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 i agree with you bigted but unfortunately those ppl are too few. i think more serious tracks would have helped ppl to realize that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turntable Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 i think more serious tracks would have helped ppl to realize that Ofcourse if People would hear em! But Songs like that just don`t have big suces most of the time so not many people would hear them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Beats nice. I've been trying to find that sample for a while now..no luck yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny 5 Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 The Rain is easily in my top 5 WS solo tracks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 I agree basically what Turntable said there, a lot of serious songs just ain't popular, singles like "Just The Two Of Us" is once in a lifetime thing, serious songs don't do too well on the charts, JJFP released "Twinkle Twinkle"(I'm A Star) as a single which didn't have the success of "Boom!" but it's easily better, rappers that release only conscious songs ain't popular(KRS, Common, Nas) "The Rain"'d been a good 3rd single for credability but it might not have been a hit necessarily, even Kanye's song about the blood diamond conflict didn't get the airplay that "Golddigger" is now but I think that track has more credability than "Golddigger" does, I think 3 of the 5 singles he released for "College Dropout" were club songs if I'm not mistaken too, club songs are more marketable to get albums to sell, I think that the people who bought the album clearly would tell you that "The Rain" is better than "Will 2K" but credit has to be given to "Will 2K" to get a lot of people to buy the album where they'd be able to see how versatile Will is, "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It" did that for "Big Willie Style" too, as much as we know it ain't his best song, it opened him up to a larger fanbase to see how versatile that album was, I think the people who say that Will's just a club rapper never took time to listen to the albums, that's stupid as sayin' LL only makes love songs, you can't judge artists off of just singles, but there are a lot of commercial rappers who just make the same club songs or potray a lame gimmick throughout their albums that just ain't that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turntable Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 (edited) I agree basically what Turntable said there, a lot of serious songs just ain't popular, singles like "Just The Two Of Us" is once in a lifetime thing, serious songs don't do too well on the charts, JJFP released "Twinkle Twinkle"(I'm A Star) as a single which didn't have the success of "Boom!" but it's easily better, rappers that release only conscious songs ain't popular(KRS, Common, Nas) "The Rain"'d been a good 3rd single for credability but it might not have been a hit necessarily, even Kanye's song about the blood diamond conflict didn't get the airplay that "Golddigger" is now but I think that track has more credability than "Golddigger" does, I think 3 of the 5 singles he released for "College Dropout" were club songs if I'm not mistaken too, club songs are more marketable to get albums to sell, I think that the people who bought the album clearly would tell you that "The Rain" is better than "Will 2K" but credit has to be given to "Will 2K" to get a lot of people to buy the album where they'd be able to see how versatile Will is, "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It" did that for "Big Willie Style" too, as much as we know it ain't his best song, it opened him up to a larger fanbase to see how versatile that album was, I think the people who say that Will's just a club rapper never took time to listen to the albums, that's stupid as sayin' LL only makes love songs, you can't judge artists off of just singles, but there are a lot of commercial rappers who just make the same club songs or potray a lame gimmick throughout their albums that just ain't that good. Thats right! LL is a example for that..Artits like Ja Rule and Fat Joe are also bringing love Song out as Single!And they get dissed even tho they most of the time only make street songs! It`s pretty funny how they kopy LL`s style of selling records! And then Artits like Jigga and Kayne are kopying Wills! Thats whats shows us again that will and LL had more impcat than anybody else even tho you don`t see it emidiatly.. Edited September 17, 2005 by Turntable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwillfan Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 "the rain" is also one of my favorite Will Smith songs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilsJim89 Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 "The Rain" should've been released right after "Will 2k". He shoulda hit us all up with "The Rain" in January 2K since "Will 2k" was disposable. "Freakin It" was just Sony looking for another "jiggy" type of song. Wrong. People got sick of it, yeah it made the top 40 but it really wasn't a hit. Willenium than quickly stalled at 2x Platinum. "The Rain" as a single would've given FP more crediabilty. You talk about "Twinkle Twinkle" as a single, it was only in the UK. I def. dont think thats single material though. Especially since Code Red had the powerful lineup like songs like "Just Kickin It", "Somethin Like Dis", "Scream"...etc. Same goes for "Cant wait to be with you" which was also a UK single. I dont know what made Jive release those as singles. I think the only reason why "Boom!" was a hit was because of the more '93 type of sound. It was heavy, more aggresive. "Somethin Like Dis" would've been a hot single. I still imagine the video in my mind of JJFP just in the streets of Philly cuttin it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 I honestly don't remember seein' the "Freakin' It" video more than just like 1 or 2 times, "Potnas" or "The Rain" should've been the 2nd single instead, damn Sony, well double platinum looks great compared to the sales of "Lost and Found" but it should've sold as much as "Big Willie Style", "Party Starter" is like "Freakin' It" at this point, it's stalling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 "The Rain" is one of the best songs ever recorded by anyone, from any genre, from any time period. The lyrics are so solid and personal, yet something eveyone can realate 2. I can't tell u how many times i was going thru' something and that song is exactly what it took 2 get me thru.' And the production is amazing. People who perfer that flashy Jiggy type stuff just won't understand. The beat is just timeless. The sound of Hip-Hop is personified on that track. Jill Scott waz the perfect choice 2 lace the hook, and the kids singing at the end...just magical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpinJack AJ Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 Opps...i just noticed i waz logged out 4 my last 2 or 3 posts....don't know why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Hero1 Posted September 18, 2005 Admin Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 one of Will's greatest songs... :word: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooFresh Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 We all know how great is the rain.... it should have been a single , but not the first or the second.. that type of songs are perfect as 3rd single, I imagine it released after Will 2k and so fresh, it would have been perfect!but to boost the selling of an album U need singles that everybody can listen to... the wrong thing during the Willennium period was that too much time passed between 2 singles, I look at jamiroquai right now, their last album was released in Italy in july and now they have been released their 2nd single... Damn, that's how to promote an album!! with lost n found I think that the singles released are the right ones, and in the right order, Switch as first, Ps and then we'll have tell me why! but again too much time passes between singles.... Calm down WILLIE :davidblaine: :davidblaine: interscope sux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristigolo Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 how much did willenium sell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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