fan 4ever Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 He cant do anything other than Switch because its the only single out. That's BS man! He did Party Starter one time in Africa...why not do it in the US? And why did he do Summertime and Switch EVERY TIME? Please...he could have done PS, Tell Me Why or any other song on the album! Face it...Interscope and Will are both to blame for this! Sure he is the worlds biggest movie star...but he always says he's a rapper first...act like it then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooFresh Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Men, I love Will smith but It's time to face the truth.. Lost and found is an amazin album,but what do people know about it?...nothin, but Switch!! It's unbelieveble that others rappers and singers release a single every 3 months and Will every 7 months..So Interscope sux cuz they should have been released PS in JUNE!!! and Will..What did he do to face this situation? NOTHIN, He shoot another movie!! I think that Will has enough money to live till the end of the world, so he could focus on promoting album and releasin singles!! I have to admit that people who listen to hip hop now are EMPTYHEADS, that's why good rappers don't sell so much, but Will could do more for his/our dope album :word: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Julie Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 i dont think anyone here actualy understands the sacrifice that Will made to give us lost and found. He lost millions for it, i would like to see any person here say no to that kind of money. Not only that but he left his film career for a long time, that puts his successful career in jeopardy. He could have had another guaranteed box office hit but instead he went for rap where he knew he couldnt have that kind of success. Will has done more for his fans than any other rapper would. I dont get how u can blame Will. Your just all mad and have to point the finger at some1. This is 2005, and hip hop is not right and it makes no sence. If u all wanna badmouth Will go to eminem and 50 sites where they wanna do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Who performs anything other than their singles on promotional shows? Every show LL was performing on TV last year he performed "Headsprung" and "Hush". Kanye's performing "Golddigger" on every show he goes on and that's working pretty well for him right now too. I mean if 1.4 million could buy Kanye's album from "Gold Digger", 1.4 million could've easily bought Will's album from "Switch" in the first month, selling 90,000 the 1st week for a highly anticipated album was the indication the album was gonna have a long road to platinum no matter what Will did 'cause it's a short window of opportunity to get there if you don't do well the first week and that it'd even take a lot for the album to go gold, I raised my expectations down after that week, I figured with a great 1st week with around 600K-800K it could be able to hit double platinum eventually. I agree with Tim's points there, he got all the facts right there for y'all, wake up and see that it was Interscope's fault, they pushed the album back over half a year that Will could've been out there performing since he wasn't filming, let's just be happy that they delayed it even more and it'd be coming out now! :word: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan 4ever Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 To Julie: I'm thankfull that Will did a new album, you have no idea how much I wanted that! I'm a die-hard Will/ JJ fan...but sometimes I look at things with open eyes! It's not because I'm a fan that I like everything that he does! To Ted: I know you have to perform your single on shows...but he also did I Wanne Rock a couple times! Why not do Party Starter instead? Or another song? That's all I'm saying! Ofcourse he had to do Switch...but why Summertime? And why "I wanne Rock"? Those songs are old! They are classic...and I love them...but those songs are not going to make people buy the album! These are just my feelings on this topic! Let's not forget we are all mad because Party Starter isn't doing well and Interscope didn't do it's job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevTastic Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 It aint over yet, sales will be down to the hundreds probably now but what the hell aslong as Party Starter does alrite, im prediciting top 10 again for the UK, then hopefully will may do a few shows here and there. L&F hasn't done brilliantly sales wise but to be honest that doesnt matter that much, we love it, we heard it, thats all that matters, The Proper fans. Will isn't gonna give up on Rap now, so we still have a good future to loook forward to in us real fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristigolo Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 i hope you are right and this little flop won't make quit the rap game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Hero1 Posted October 6, 2005 Admin Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Will couldnt have not done a movie any longer..ideally the album would have dropped october 2004..will would have promoted and performed switch then, after that he would have promoted and performed party starter in january and then promoted and performed tell me why in may/june done a tour june july and then gone on to shoot pursuit of happyness August.. unfortunately the timing didnt work out because of Interscope's delays Thats not Will's fault.. thats the record business.. they don't respect Will enough to release his album on time, so its delays and more delays..then the radio stations didnt wanna play switch and it was only after the people bought it and made it #1 on itunes that they started to give it ago.. and then interscope was asleep at the wheel and never released a second single in time..once again they dont give Will a high priority.. 50 cent and black eyed peas can have 3 4 singles released in 3 months..Will cant even get 2 singles out in 7 months.. the music industry is dead .. you are basically blaming Will for things he has no control over :shrug: i hope you are right and this little flop won't make quit the rap game Lost and Found wasnt a flop.. a respected rap veteran of 20 years and 9 albums goes gold and is one of the highest selling rap artists of the year? please :davidblaine: we're just saying it could have done so much better.. I blame the record industry, music video channels radio stations, record companies..others choose to blame Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan 4ever Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 I blame the record industry, music video channels radio stations, record companies..others choose to blame Will I don't only blame Will...Interscope it to blame! MTV is to blame! the record industry is to blame and BET is to blame! Hell even the real hip hop heads are to blame! I'm just saying that people on this board need to wake up! Not everything that Will does is good! Sure he did his best and gave us one of his best albums ever! I love and respect him for that! I just wished he would have done more for this album, becuase it is a beauty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 (edited) Common is on his 3rd single and he ain't platinum yet and he got the hottest producer in the game producing his album to hype it up, Will didn't have that hype for his album, he had a bunch of unknown producers on it instead along with few guest appearances, plus no PA label on his album, he didn't follow what everyone else in commercial rap is doing so he's not the popular choice, going gold is great, only a handful of albums have even done that this year, that'd be bad if it was 2000 when the highest selling rappers were selling over 10 million and many more were going platinum, Em and Nelly are even only selling half of what they used to and they're the highest selling ones, nobody buys much anymore, going gold is basically the same success as "Willenium" had if you look at it realisitically,it's like the 6th highest selling album this year in commercial rap I believe so it ain't a flop, he outsold a lot of rappers like Bow Wow, Fat Joe, Cassidy, and Tony Yayo! Edited October 6, 2005 by bigted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turntable Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 (edited) It went Platinum Worldwide.Thats enough or even great for an Old Skool Mc. Swtich was a big hit.Thats great for an Mc like Will.He`s a psitive one and a Old Skool type.Nell who`s a populair positive Mc didn`t had such a big hit.LL and De La who are Old Skool MC`s like him didn`t sell that much and didn`t have a hit.Only Hush was a litle one in the U.K.. had if you look at it realisitically,it's like the 6th highest selling album this year in commercial rap I believe so it ain't a flop, he outsold a lot of rappers like Bow Wow, Fat Joe, Cassidy, and Tony Yayo! Damn right! If you Guy`s realy wanna be sad about sels you shuld become a 112 Fan just like me :sick: :lolsign: Edited October 6, 2005 by Turntable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooFresh Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 I blame the record industry, music video channels radio stations, record companies..others choose to blame Will I don't only blame Will...Interscope it to blame! MTV is to blame! the record industry is to blame and BET is to blame! Hell even the real hip hop heads are to blame! I'm just saying that people on this board need to wake up! Not everything that Will does is good! Sure he did his best and gave us one of his best albums ever! I love and respect him for that! I just wished he would have done more for this album, becuase it is a beauty! U R RIGHT!!!! It's not only will's fault, It's interscope's, mtv's and so on!! I really don't care about how much the album is sellin, but U all care about it. so answer the question: is enough to release a single every 7 months? Bigted, u told that other rappers perform only their singles during their show..ok, u r right but they release a new album every year, so people know about their music. Will released his last single with black suits comin,cuz nobody remerbers about 1000kisses, so u think that Switch is enough to convince people to buy the album? Please! I tell u that many people bought the album for switch and MR niceguy, trust me!! I think he needed to perform more n more...I know that we all would have liked to see L+F going platinum cuz it's a great album, but what we can do if all the world try to not pay attention to Will's rap career? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Maybe if Will battled Eminem and released "Mr. Nice Guy" as a single "Lost and Found"'d be triple platinum but that'd boost Em's sales too! :chuks: :lolsign: The world did pay attention to the album though, it's platinum worldwide, only a handful of rappers could say that, Common released his last album 3 years ago, Nas released his last one before "Street's Disciple" 2 years before that and so did LL, the only popular rapper that has consistant sales releasing albums every year is Jay-Z but I don't think "Black Album" sold as much as "Volume 2" either, nobody sells 5 million every album! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxFly Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 I think many you guys are making this a little more serious than it needs to be. It's amazing how everyone is complaining about single releases now and Lost and Found's position, but back in June and July when it really mattered, not too many people seemed to care... All of a sudden, people seem shocked and upset as if no one foresaw this taking place. Bottom line, 4 and a half to 6 months between singles isn't a good idea. Many said it didn't matter. Many waxed hyperbolic and said that singles shouldn't be rushed... as if putting out a new single after 3 and a half months is rushing. Some said that album sales didn't matter. Whatever the complaints of the justifications, Lost and Found and Party Starter are where they are respectively. Hopefully, Tell Me Why is released and we get a good music video for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigted Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 (edited) Well the commercial fans don't really have good taste, most of the my favorite rappers have low sales, I'm used to it, everybody here had their expectations too high and were hoping that Will would dominate the rap game but that's a fantasy since not many people except positive rappers, especially positive rappers that don't curse, this is 2005 not 1990, for him to go gold today is a miracle in itself, how are Public Enemy, De La Soul, and KRS-ONE doing now? Believe or not they release albums almost every year still, they're always touring but yet they have such small fanbases, it's like they haven't gone gold in the last 10 years it seems, if they were all doing well, maybe Will'd be doing better too, you look at when "Big Willie Style" was having so much success, Rakim was platinum, KRS was gold, Wyclef was multi-platinum, LL was platinum, Busta was multi-platinum, Wu-Tang was multi-platinum, MC Lyte was platinum, Missy Elliot was multi-platinum, Public Enemy was gold, they all were doing well and it looked like the return of the golden era but now they're all struggling with sales once Dr. Dre came back in '99 then Eminem, Nelly, Lil' Jon, and 50 Cent took the rap game over so there's not much variety anymore to say that there would be a large audience to anticipate rappers like FP, Common, and LL Cool J, they're called soft/"nerd" rappers by commercial rap fans. Dr. Dre could drop albums every 10 years and sell millions each time 'cause gangsta rap is what people love to eat up. btw my expectations went down after the 1st week when it only sold 90,000 like I stated before, how many albums selling that little coming out go mulit-platinum? It'd be nice if they played "Party Starter" but I don't really watch MTV or listen to radio anyway so I ain't fazed if they don't, I'd rather check on the internet or a magazine to see what's coming out than watch and listen through all that garbage. Edited October 6, 2005 by bigted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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