Kanye West's Mom Shocked on How much he spends on....

[bigted]

I'm gonna post this over on Public Enemy's board and see if I could get Chuck D's opinion on this since he's been the top ones defending him over the last month, he was talkin' at the college last week that Kanye's image will be questioned since he's the popular one. I'm sure this will probably upset him not 'cause of Kanye but 'cause of the way critics are gonna slam him hard and hip-hop at the same time too and probably gonna put down Chuck D himself too for defending him on MSNBC, Kanye's embarassing hip-hop's image but hey nobody's perfect. :paperbag: I don't wanna be overreligious either but look at it this way though we all sin, that's why we all die eventually no matter how much or how lil' money or fame we have so try not to judge others so hard since we'll be judged, we all gotta answer to God one day, like LL said on 'Can't Think': "We all end up in the grave anyway/the average cat and LL Cool J".

[sonic1988]

well, first off, let me say that sex with someone other than your spouse, or someone you're not married with, or pornography goes against the 10 commandments. u dead wrong homie get your facts straight

1. I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.

3. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.

4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

5. Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long.

6. Thou shalt not kill.

7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

8. Thou shalt not steal.

9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbor's.

I do know that sex outside of marriage is a sin (number 7). But I seriously have to ask you. where is the porn in the commandments? I know that religion is always open for interpretation, but isn't saying that porn is going against the ten commandments kinda extreme? I'd say maybe a venial sin.

[WesSyde]

you're very right Sonic. i will edit my post now. i didn't word it quite the way i wanted to. i'll have to ask my parents because they know a lot about the bible. i pretty much knew porno wasnt in the commandments, but i do believe there are books in the bible where this situation is discussed.

and if it's not mentioned (which i doubt) then i guess that's always just been a perception of mine that porn was a sin in the Christian bible cuz it seems like it would be, doesn't it?

[mfuqua23]

I think it's all just a funny joke. So he made purchases at a porno store. We don't know when, we don't know why, not that it's any of our business.

And why go for pornos, when you can get groupie girls? Well, because those discs with material on them, are inanimate objects that more than likely do not carry any kind of disease. And the girls are a bigger risk than some entertainment. But that is a choice.

[bigted]

I looked at this sorta as a joke too, everybody's looking into this too seriously, stop frontin' like you never looked at porno before, I didn't spend $500 on it but I could admit that I did so I guess I'm going to hell too then, lol. :stickpoke: Some movies have sex scenes in them too,why don't they get on actors for that, why do they have to criticise musicians so much? I think having sex with somebody before marriage is considered a sin too btw and I think like 90% of those in high school do and they ain't married, so we're all guilty of something, that's all I gotta say, peace!

Edited October 12, 2005 by bigted

[Hero1]

I saw an interview with Kanye on TV a while back where he said he was a porn addict.. I dont have a source for you to check it out though..

I don't have a problem with people doing whatever they want as long as they don't tell other people how to live.

I don't listen to Kanye so I can't make a judgement on whether he does that or not.

[bigted]

As the famous words of Will, don't be "Holy Rollers"! :damnyou:

[Hero1]

the other thing that i find ridiculous is these rappers rapping about killing people and ****ing hoes and they get up on stage to collect an award and are like id like to say whatsup to god :sick:

[WesSyde]

true dat Ted i done it too (porn) and all the other teens i know have had sex. i think i'm the only virgin in the world sometimes. i admit i've sinned but at the same time, i've never smoke anything, never drank anything. i admit i've sinned and i think Kanye can do it too, but the issue for me is why is he talking about Jesus if he's a porn addict? or is his Jesus different than the Jesus i associate with?

me personally, i don't suscribe to any one religion right now tho i've been raised a Christian and committed to God i've lost interest in it and i don't know what i want to believe yet. but i do know the values that were taught to me were from the bible and i do believe it's sinning and that the Jesus i believe in would call it a sin too.

and tim, :word: on the rappers accepting awards thing man

[JumpinJack AJ]

Wow, this post has taken off since this morning. This all i have 2 say. I think porn is gross. It's just a nasty filthy kinda thing. And 2 spend that kinda money on is is just discusting. And the idea of people not being real in their music is a common thing, but that doesn't make it accpetable.

[DevilsJim89]

I have to agree with Tim on this one. Kanye aint what he seems to be. Personally I think spending money on porn is just...sad. very sad. $500? Come on. That is pathetic especially if your a popular rapper and you aint gettin laid even though you rap about it! pshh...I'l admit I've looked at porn online, we all have at one point or another but seriously, go find a girl and get laid! lol.

[SmoothB]

Man I ain't into religion I ain't been in church my whole life except for funerals.On the topic of jesus walks people who are supposed to be holy ain't the ones who do no wrong.So called religious people sin worser than watching some freakin' porno's.It's so fake church isn't nothing but mind control.Black people can hardly pay their damn bills but they can go to church and throw loads of money in a plate.So the pastor can have nice suits and go to his beautiful home in his rose royce.While you go home in your bucket in the ghetto.Sorry but I think religion is bull and the people who go to church sin more than the rest of us.Oh but they pray to a white jesus and it all get's erased.You got priest raping little little alter boys come on man.I refuse to beleive some one can sin worse than me but I get punished because I don't pray to a white jesus.Kanye is a man not jesus himself we think oh cause he makes music and kids listen to that he can't have any faults pornography.Shoot any kid problably done seen some porn's his irresponsible dad tried to hide.Kanye West is a man before a role model and men have things they like and certain taste and that's his business.Now if a kid saw him starring in one then there is a problem.Stop being so closed minded and lighten up.Now I'm not trying to start a holy war and I don't want this to turn to the Eminem beef I had on here I said my peace and that's it,that's all,solo,single,no more,no less.Take or leave it hate it or love it I'm off like a dirty t-shirt peace :2thumbs:

[SmoothB]

Why are you guys rippin him for this? Run out of things to hate a man for? I mean come on, He's only human. Just leave the poor man alone....

Well, some now consider him to be a leader in the black community. That much has been stated on this forum. Leaders have to be held to some standard. :sick:

Yeah and Jesse Jackson cheated on his wife revoke his leader license :rofl:

[mfuqua23]

and are like id like to say whatsup to god :sick:

Hence the "Don't be up here thanking God if you can't perform your work in church."

i think i'm the only virgin in the world sometimes.

I know for a fact, that it is not true.

Carlton: You mean your a virgin too?

Will: Shhhh! Keep your voice down. Hey!, I ain't no virgin!... When it comes to me and the honeys, man I just say (*a precher walks up*) da, eww, ugh, yucky. One day the right girl's gonna come along and, you won't be a german forever.

Carlton: Good, cuz I'm really looking foward to losing my accent.

[bigted]

So what's more disgusting have sex with 100 groupies or watching pornos? They're both just as bad 'cause having sex with women you ain't married with is a sin too, lol, but at least Kanye won't end up like Magic Johnson if he watches pornos, but it's not as bad as raping somebody, it's only recreation and it's harmless although I won't personally condone that either. Stop judging other people so much though, if you don't like Kanye's music leave it at that but you don't know him personally, he probably don't watch pornos everyday, he's busy making music and touring, why'd he have that much free time anyway? So what, Will's potraying himself as somebody else in his music too in a way 'cause he curses in real life but he don't curse in his songs 'cause he's conscious what he says on his songs but some critics hate on the fact that he don't curse on his songs when they find out that he does in real life in some magazine interviews and they call him a hypocrite for that just like some of us that don't like Kanye call him a hypocrite 'cause he talks about Jesus but he watches porno and real life, so what's the difference between them? They're both human, it's just we might like one's music over the other but we shouldn't judge their personalities 'cause we don't know them like that, as long as they potray themselves in society that's no problem, I think making songs about being a gangsta when you're not one is worse but rappers don't raise kids parents do, 50 Cent makes pornos too so he ain't no role model any way around, that's even worse than what Kanye does. btw, where are the parents of the girls that act in pornos? Maybe if they all got jobs like regular people there wouldn't be a porno industry. The only way we're gonna be perfect is if we stay in our house all day praying to God, I mean come on we could believe in God if we choose to but we gotta live too, we all sin a lil' bit in between, it's life, get over it! I don't like gangsta rap much either but it's entertainment just like rated R movies that have the same amount of sex and violence in it so you hope they're not like that in real life, that means that Will can't believe in God either 'cause he was shooting somebody in a movie? That means the girls in the porno movies can't believe in God either? Bush might smoke crack on his free time for all we know but he obviously has better management to hide his faults unlike Kanye, lol, and I think Kanye was referring to what Bush was doing on his job not his personal life so he has the right to still do that. The way that Bush reacted to the hurricane is a sin in itself letting thousands die when they didn't have to, don't you think that's even more disgusting than somebody watching pornos?

Edited October 12, 2005 by bigted