Cozmo D Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Hip Hop = 4 Elements (MC, DJ, B-Boys & Graph Writers) A Hip Hopper is one who represent the hip hop culture. (every true meaning of hip hop) Rap = A Branch Of Hip Hop A Rapper is one who rhymes in a hip hop rhythm. So, is a Techno DJ Hip-Hop? What about Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park, they rap, are they Hip-Hop? If a graff writer hates Rap and black people, is he still Hip-Hop? :hmm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaAce Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 So, is a Techno DJ Hip-Hop? What about Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park, they rap, are they Hip-Hop? If a graff writer hates Rap and black people, is he still Hip-Hop? :hmm: they were all inspired by hip hop yes limp bizkit and linkin park are classified as rock n roll but the inspiration clearly came from hip hop. Its just like how jazz influenced rock n roll and basically every other form of music. and its funny that u asked if a techno dj is hip hop cuz if you play some early bambaataa to the crowd nowadays they would believe that your playing techno when it really was hip hop... so its kinda the same for the techno dj, its all from the hip hop culture... its influenced many musicians and dj's whether or not they say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozmo D Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 So, is a Techno DJ Hip-Hop? What about Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park, they rap, are they Hip-Hop? If a graff writer hates Rap and black people, is he still Hip-Hop? :hmm: they were all inspired by hip hop yes limp bizkit and linkin park are classified as rock n roll but the inspiration clearly came from hip hop. Its just like how jazz influenced rock n roll and basically every other form of music. and its funny that u asked if a techno dj is hip hop cuz if you play some early bambaataa to the crowd nowadays they would believe that your playing techno when it really was hip hop... so its kinda the same for the techno dj, its all from the hip hop culture... its influenced many musicians and dj's whether or not they say so. Techno DJs & House DJs evolved more from Disco DJs who were around LONG before Hip-Hop. In fact, even Hip-Hop DJing evolved out of Disco DJs. So, I guess if we go by your methodology all DJs are Disco. Or maybe we are all Jazz? :hmm: Graffiti has been around forever. NYC style graffiti developed in the late '60s, early '70s. When I was writing back then I knew white graf artists who knew nothing about Hip-Hop or anything else black at all, so how could they have been inspired by Hip-Hop? Yes, I agree completely about Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park, as well as Rage Against The Machine. However many of my Old Skool colleagues would not. The bottom line is, while MOST Rap is inspired by Hip-Hop, all Rap is NOT Hip-Hop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaAce Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) i completely agree that all rap is not hip hop and about your graffiti statement... i was responding to the words you put up earlier that said "If a graff writer hates Rap and black people, is he still Hip-Hop?"... i was thinking that you were meaning, during the hip hop era... but since were being specific... every element of hip hop was been around long before hip hop was even thought of... breaking = capoiera graf artist = painters dj's = im not too sure of when they first evolved but i would say around the disco era mc's = the entertainers who performed musical pieces through rhymes all throughout history if im wrong with anything im saying... please correct me ps. the funny thing about this is that im playing my playlist on random and "jam on it" is currently playing and your currently rapping on it Edited February 10, 2006 by DaAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Hero1 Posted February 10, 2006 Admin Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 well you can rapping back to jazz and scatting also :kool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozmo D Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 i completely agree that all rap is not hip hop and about your graffiti statement... i was responding to the words you put up earlier that said "If a graff writer hates Rap and black people, is he still Hip-Hop?"... i was thinking that you were meaning, during the hip hop era... but since were being specific... every element of hip hop was been around long before hip hop was even thought of... breaking = capoiera graf artist = painters dj's = im not too sure of when they first evolved but i would say around the disco era mc's = the entertainers who performed musical pieces through rhymes all throughout history if im wrong with anything im saying... please correct me ps. the funny thing about this is that im playing my playlist on random and "jam on it" is currently playing and your currently rapping on it Completely agreed. Heheheh, glad I made your playlist. :1-smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaAce Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 thank you sir.... i enjoyed the convo. ... and come on newlceus should be part of every hip hoppers collection... u know that... haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etherspinner Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 bring on the next positive wave of hiphop!! bring it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Twist Posted June 22, 2006 Members Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Rap is something you do And Hip Hop Is a way of life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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